S8 roumors - Note 7 Questions & Answers

So yes, just roumors, but it is supposed to come in 5.1 inch and 5.5 inch. And anything close to a Note supposedly won't be released next year.
Well, samsung, get your act together. EVERYONE is doing a 5.5 by now. I could possibly live without a stylus but why downsize? I can't use my Note 4 for another 2 years. If they don't get their act together in a year, I will be forced to switch to another manufacturer (and tempted to if in February s8 "pro" doesn't deliver). And in this case I am even more glad I got rid of the Note 7 because if they plan to abolish anything like the Note, they will have no further advantage out there, ever. If N 4 is to be my last Note with nothing further to buy from them in the future...better to be rid of the concept now than later and find a replacement.
Come on Samsung!!! Do you WANT to bury yourself?

...and you believe unsubstantiated rumours? OK then....
Samsung's business model has been two flagships each each in major territories since 2011, including 2015 when Europe still got the S6 Edge+
I'd still expect a S8 / S8 Edge in Q1 and something bigger in Q3. Remember the press are reaching here as Samsung have said nothing.

notefreak said:
So yes, just roumors, but it is supposed to come in 5.1 inch and 5.5 inch. And anything close to a Note supposedly won't be released next year.
Well, samsung, get your act together. EVERYONE is doing a 5.5 by now. I could possibly live without a stylus but why downsize? I can't use my Note 4 for another 2 years. If they don't get their act together in a year, I will be forced to switch to another manufacturer (and tempted to if in February s8 "pro" doesn't deliver). And in this case I am even more glad I got rid of the Note 7 because if they plan to abolish anything like the Note, they will have no further advantage out there, ever. If N 4 is to be my last Note with nothing further to buy from them in the future...better to be rid of the concept now than later and find a replacement.
Come on Samsung!!! Do you WANT to bury yourself?
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Is it wise for you to get so worked up about rumours? Only Samsung know their future policy and why would anyone assume they will change direction?
In as far as the Note 7 and future Note range, Samsung need time, they need time to get things right.
You ask Samsung to "Get your act together", Have you any proof they are not doing so? The media have done enough damage to Samsung and with respect all you are doing is adding to the hysteria with posts like that.
Ryland

Samsung should come out with a line called...Samsung Fire...instead of a bundle pack they should just hand out fire extinguisher's with the phone.

No, no proof, I said it is roumers, I named the post roumors, but since I have no way to reach Samsung and since some people say there are all sorts of moles, spys and whatnot here, I hope it gets to Samsung somehow that there is a reason they had so many faithful Note customers and to please not go changing it. Sorry if I care about what happens next. I do. I don't want them to mess up everything. This is a forum, a place to share opinions and yes, even roumors. I don't see how I did anything wrong here.

iiiiiKiNgiiiii said:
Samsung should come out with a line called...Samsung Fire...instead of a bundle pack they should just hand out fire extinguisher's with the phone.
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Rather insensitive comment and clearly aimed at upsetting posters here. Why would you do that?
Ryland

And so it begins:
https://9to5google.com/2016/10/20/report-lg-could-supply-the-batteries-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s8/

5.7 or bigger please
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Samsung Galaxy S8 - release date & specs - rumors

Your mistaken rumours with facts. I'm sure Samsung will stick to their product roadmap, as their have been indications they are not bringing the S8 forward and it will debut in Q1 (late February).
I'd expect things next year to broadly be something like this...
Feb / March 2017
S8 / S8 Edge / S8 Pro
Eynos 8995 / SD 821 (or 830 if announced by Qualcomm soon)
6GB RAM
32GB / 64GB on-board storage
5.2 or 5.2-inch and 5.5-inch options at either 1440p or 2160p SAMOLED
IRIS scanner
IP68 waterproofing
SD card expansion (with UFS 2.0 support)
Secure Folder
I'd expect the larger screened phone coming in Q3 to maintain a 5.7-inch screen or larger (and hopefully still be called Note8 (see how that's different to Note 8.0 before anyone counters...).

Rob F1UK said:
Your mistaken rumours with facts. I'm sure Samsung will stick to their product roadmap, as their have been indications they are not bringing the S8 forward and it will debut in Q1 (late February).
I'd expect things next year to broadly be something like this...
Feb / March 2017
S8 / S8 Edge / S8 Pro
Eynos 8995 / SD 821 (or 830 if announced by Qualcomm soon)
6GB RAM
32GB / 64GB on-board storage
5.2 or 5.2-inch and 5.5-inch options at either 1440p or 2160p SAMOLED
IRIS scanner
IP68 waterproofing
SD card expansion (with UFS 2.0 support)
Secure Folder
I'd expect the larger screened phone coming in Q3 to maintain a 5.7-inch screen or larger (and hopefully still be called Note8 (see how that's different to Note 8.0 before anyone counters...).
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To add on.. i guess the rom will be slightly higher. Prob baseline will still be 32GB. Follow by 64, 128, 256. With expandable memory of course. And probably do away 3.5mm jack?

XanaviGTR said:
To add on.. i guess the rom will be slightly higher. Prob baseline will still be 32GB. Follow by 64, 128, 256. With expandable memory of course. And probably do away 3.5mm jack?
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I doubt Samsung will go for more than a 64GB variant (unless they drop 32GB and do offer 128GB), simply as they'll need headroom for the larger model later in the year. Anyway, with SD expansion, this is moot really.
As for dropping the 3.5mm jack, I'd hope not - it's not really reflected well on Apple and I'd hope Samsung realise they don't need to do the same.

Ryland Johnson said:
Rather insensitive comment and clearly aimed at upsetting posters here. Why would you do that?
Ryland
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Absolutely insensitive.
I would much rather Samsung give out a teddy bear and a security blankey. Should make the overly sensitive ones feel much better about themselves.

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Trading the S6 edge+ for the new S7 Edge

So the S7 Edge just announced
5.5" - Restyled S6 Edge with 2.5D glass all sides.
Water resistant - 3600 Mah Battery - Kickass Exynos 8800 performance
MICROsd - Kickass new camera - and marshmallow of course.
I dont mind giving away those 0.2" inches although i just bought the phone a month ago.
I am going to keep using my S6 edge + because it's too early to upgrade to S7 although it had returned some great features for some people like Micro SD, Water Resistant, and bigger battery capacity (3600mAh). For those who eagerly wants those feature, then you can upgrade to S7. I better keep myself until they release the next flagship in August which surely be Samsung Galaxy Note 6 or maybe together with Samsung Galaxy S7 edge +. If Samsung give us a 4000 mAh battery, then I am going to be really happy..
The battery in S7 is 3600 mAh which is 20% larger than S6 edge + which had 3000 mAh. However, with Fast Charging technology, charging up to 20% is just take about 15 mins then I am able to live it.
Micro SD up to 200 GB. It is optional for some people.. I don't save a lot of media (music, video) in my phone and I still have 70% storage capacity left in my 64 GB so it doesn't bother me a lot. However, it is a huge improvement for some people because many users complaining about the lost of micro SD slot in 2015 flagship.. The rest is up to you..
Dust & Water Resistant is also optional. My previous device was Galaxy S5 which have same features. However, I was rarely got my device wet because most of time I was inside a clean room. For those who brings their smartphone to wet environment, the return of this feature is a giant leap.. Keep in mind that the water resistant is different than water proof and I have just saw that the charging port in S7 didn't have a protector like in S5. I wonder how Samsung deal with it if the port is damaged with water and got corrosive, will it still work perfectly?
It is my opinion about S6 edge + and S7 edge.. You guys are able to decide based on your needs..
Thats a very reasonable and logical comparison, well done sir.
Its still too early to judge I agree. Especially since we need further in depth review of the new Exynos and the new SD820. I hope its not another flop for Qualcomm.
And you are correct again, its much wiser to wait for August.
There are several reasons why i'm gonna skip the Galaxy S7 edge, because i do have the Galaxy S6 edge+ that is a very nice phone to begin with.
Now, there are some few reasons why i feel that the Galaxy S7 edge are a downgrade in from the Galaxy S6 edge+.
1. The screen is 5.5 inch on the Galaxy S7 edge over 5.7 inch on the Galaxy S6 edge+.
2. The new 12 MP camera takes pictures in the 4:3 ratio. You have to take the camera all the way down to 9.1 MP before you can take a picture in the 16:9 ratio. So i'll think i will keep my 16 MP 16:9 ratio camera on my Galaxy S6 edge+ over that
That's the only downsides i can find with the Galaxy S7 edge over the Galaxy S6 edge+ so far.
But yeah, i wont upgrade my phone before the Galaxy S8 edge+ comes out (if it comes out ofc). If not i will be going for the Galaxy Note 7 that will come out later in 2017.
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There are several reasons why i'm gonna skip the Galaxy S7 edge, because i do have the Galaxy S6 edge+ that is a very nice phone to begin with.
Now, there are some few reasons why i feel that the Galaxy S7 edge are a downgrade in from the Galaxy S6 edge+.
1. The screen is 5.5 inch on the Galaxy S7 edge over 5.7 inch on the Galaxy S6 edge+.
2. The new 12 MP camera takes pictures in the 4:3 ratio. You have to take the camera all the way down to 9.1 MP before you can take a picture in the 16:9 ratio. So i'll think i will keep my 16 MP 16:9 ratio camera on my Galaxy S6 edge+ over that
That's the only downsides i can find with the Galaxy S7 edge over the Galaxy S6 edge+ so far.
But yeah, i wont upgrade my phone before the Galaxy S8 edge+ comes out (if it comes out ofc). If not i will be going for the Galaxy Note 7 that will come out later in 2017.
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agree and will also keep my edge+
I'm gonna trade it in also. for me this phone is a little uncomfortable to hold cuz of the flat back. anytime a manufacturer can shave a few mm from the width, yet retain top performance that's a win in my book. in this case, they managed not only to do that but also make it more ergonomic and with a better battery. so yea, I'm trading mine in. that's the beauty of T-mobile jod plan anyways.
Not trading mine in and not just because my phone is only 2 months old.
I love my edge plus and the new features on the 7 are better they aren't a big enough deal for me to change my already great phone and lose lot of money in the process.
I also like 16x9 16mp photos and bigger screen.
I voted no because my upgrade mobile will be the note 6.
I came from note 4 and I am used to the spen. I love my s6 edge+, but If I change this incredible mobile, it would be a Note 6
i love to upgrade to galaxy S7 edge+ Plus becuase of water proof and bigger battery and SD slot. plus you get a free Gear VR if you pre-order. and you get 3 days early then everyone else.
but i have a 2 years contract and i have to wait after 2 years when my contract is finished. by then Note 7 will be out.
I would consider trading my s6 edge plus even though its minor upgrade.
Hoping that a Note 6 will appear this year in Europe! Would trade one for that one. Would love to have a Note 5 but since it's not available in Europe i got the Edge+
16/9, 16mp photos! That's all I shoot in, I can't stand 4/3
So. I'll keep my 6 edge+ until the Note 6 later this year (I do miss the stylus!) Or the S8 next year.
And I'm getting the G5 whatever the case - it intrigues me! I want the robot, and I want to fly a drone....
And that VR headset.
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Very very minor things done on this device. Absolutely nothing worth upgrading for as there is nothing new - Same can be said for the last 3 generations of mobiles from every manufacturer.
They could put 3 8 core chips in the S7 and you wouldn't notice the difference over the S6 edge +. Hell, my standard 3 year old note 3 is almost on par with my S6 edge +, how much better can it honestly get? It's just a phone and the technology inside has peaked for now. Nothing grounding breaking being done, just minor resolution bump which is pointless given your eye can't physically see a difference and a minor camera bump which again is pointless, they're never going to replace DSLR's or mirrorless systems, they've just nice 'point and shoot' sensors.
Phones have peaked people - save your money and stick with what you've got till something 'new' comes out. Too many people on here upgrading just to say they have the latest. More money than sense!
If we are keep chasing the update, it will end up in regret for every 6 months.. Same ecosystem between Samsung, Apple, LG, etc.. They are going to keep inovate somehing new.. The best moment to upgrade the high end smartphone is 2 years IMO.. Talk about S6 edge+, if we place it with S7 edge side by side, there is a very minor difference in terms of performance.. Everything have their pros and cons, as long as it is worth to keep, then use it.. Personally, I am really satisfied with my S6 edge+ performance..
I will be selling and moving to the LG G5
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Very very minor things done on this device. Absolutely nothing worth upgrading for as there is nothing new - Same can be said for the last 3 generations of mobiles from every manufacturer.
They could put 3 8 core chips in the S7 and you wouldn't notice the difference over the S6 edge +. Hell, my standard 3 year old note 3 is almost on par with my S6 edge +, how much better can it honestly get? It's just a phone and the technology inside has peaked for now. Nothing grounding breaking being done, just minor resolution bump which is pointless given your eye can't physically see a difference and a minor camera bump which again is pointless, they're never going to replace DSLR's or mirrorless systems, they've just nice 'point and shoot' sensors.
Phones have peaked people - save your money and stick with what you've got till something 'new' comes out. Too many people on here upgrading just to say they have the latest. More money than sense!
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your right there. can save the money and help the poor people in poor country.
andywright1982 said:
I will be selling and moving to the LG G5
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hahahaha...I'm thinking of that move also
I was very tempted to upgrade! The biggest reason is the battery capacity and overall efficiency of processor whilst being put off because of the -0.2 inches. In addition to this I thought the screen quality would be a big improvement as was the case with the Note 5 and GS6 EDGE+ over the standard GS6/GS6 EDGE.
Upon my visit the Carphone Warehouse in the UK yesterday I saw the GS7 EDGE in person and can confirm that the screen is very marginally brighter and has marginally better contrast however we are talking about something extremely difficult to perceive (maybe 10% or less difference). Other than that I can confirm that personally I like the design and more importantly size of the S6 EDGE+ over that of the GS7 EDGE (don't get me wrong the GS7 EDGE is a beautiful phone still).
I may very well upgrade however it won't be until Samsung has confirmed that there is no successor to the S6 EDGE+ in August. I am pleased I got to see the device in person otherwise I would have been dreading not having waited for the GS7 EDGE which I no longer do.
Hope this helps others.
Alex---1 said:
Very very minor things done on this device. Absolutely nothing worth upgrading for as there is nothing new - Same can be said for the last 3 generations of mobiles from every manufacturer.
They could put 3 8 core chips in the S7 and you wouldn't notice the difference over the S6 edge +. Hell, my standard 3 year old note 3 is almost on par with my S6 edge +, how much better can it honestly get? It's just a phone and the technology inside has peaked for now. Nothing grounding breaking being done, just minor resolution bump which is pointless given your eye can't physically see a difference and a minor camera bump which again is pointless, they're never going to replace DSLR's or mirrorless systems, they've just nice 'point and shoot' sensors.
Phones have peaked people - save your money and stick with what you've got till something 'new' comes out. Too many people on here upgrading just to say they have the latest. More money than sense!
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I totally agree with you 100% I do... but upgrading to the latest phone no matter how small the change, is a total addiction for me and it's so got a hold of me! I never buy anything second hand or a last gen model. I even hate that here in the UK the licence plate on cars shows the age of the car. My car now tells people it's 2yrs old and even though it looks pristine and only 10000 miles on the clock, it really irks me that it is no longer the latest and greatest.
I love my S6 edge+ but as soon as the S7 was announced I realised I was no longer owning the latest Samsung phone. It saddened me and I know that's pathetic!
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I totally agree with you 100% I do... but upgrading to the latest phone no matter how small the change, is a total addiction for me and it's so got a hold of me! I never buy anything second hand or a last gen model. I even hate that here in the UK the licence plate on cars shows the age of the car. My car now tells people it's 2yrs old and even though it looks pristine and only 10000 miles on the clock, it really irks me that it is no longer the latest and greatest.
I love my S6 edge+ but as soon as the S7 was announced I realised I was no longer owning the latest Samsung phone. It saddened me and I know that's pathetic!
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Lol, but you're anti Apple? Yet your last sentence is what keeps Apple in business, no change at all, but HAVE to have it, regardless.
Based on my experience with cars, older ones are much better than newer, too much pointless tech built into newer cars that goes wrong (and it DOES go wrong) I have a heavily modified 2002 Volvo S40 T4 with around 370bhp that's now on 186,000 miles and runs like new - I'd like to see any of Volvos newer cars do that!
Newer isn't always better and most of the time, isn't worth it.
But each to their own

Why the negative price comments by most reviewers?

From the Dozens and dozens of reviews I have read in journals and seen on Youtube etc, the one big negative they all comment on is the price of the Note 7?
I would hate to be a car salesman and try selling these people a car. If we want a flagship uber mobile and the Galaxy Note 7 is certainly that, then it will of course come with a price to match.
If you visit a Rolls Royce showroom and ask the price the salesperson will lose all interest in you as its an industry given that if you need to ask the price you can't afford one.
The Note 7 is expensive just the same as all top notch flag ship cars, pens watches, in fact any consumer goods you care to mention! I have read one review where said 'professional' mentioned the mobile could be priced at 500€ rather than 850€ No reason given? The profit margin on the Note 7 is nothing even close to the Apple brand yet every year people queue to purchase their new iPhones irrespective of specification and other user factors. I find this bizarre.
You like Aston martin, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bentley, RR, Maybach, or Bugatti then pay. Don't want to pay then visit your local Ford, VW, Skoda or Seat showroom.
Bang for buck the Note 7 is on par.
Ryland
Because Samsung isn't a Rolls Royce., but a Hyundai. The phone has an 100 euro markup on previous Notes, but doesn't add 100 euro worth of stuff. People don't want to pay for stuff they don't want (edged screen; fragile, slippery glass everywhere; smaller battery than S7E; no CPU/RAM upgrades) and not getting what they do want (IR, removable battery, latest in CPU; ~6" flat screen). Other brands have passed them left, right and center and the only distinguishing feature is the S-pen. But is that worth more than double the price of a O+3?
As a Note 3 owner, I was really looking forward to this phone. It started out good (Exynos 8893, 6 GB RAM, 5,8" screen, 4.000 mAh battery) but as time passed, all specs changed for the worse untill we now have the S7E Stylus Edition with IrisScanner. While you get buy incentives all over the world and even for older models, no such thing in the Netherlands.. We didn't even got the Note 5 here, so the Note 4 was the last true Note. Only when the Note 7 was introduced, almost every store suddenly sold out their Note 4's.
Ryland Johnson said:
From the Dozens and dozens of reviews I have read in journals and seen on Youtube etc, the one big negative they all comment on is the price of the Note 7?
If you visit a Rolls Royce showroom and ask the price the salesperson will lose all interest in you as its an industry given that if you need to ask the price you can't afford one.
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Wrong!!! salespeople will have lost interest in such a person, because he/she probably is not stupid, has a brain, and wants to spend money wisely.
they are looking for silly people that do not know how to use the calculator, and fall into brand "promises". By the way, the job of the salesperson is to sell. If he/she looses interest in you, they should be fired, as they are not doing their job.
the Note 7 is terribly overpriced.
850 EUR for a phone with programmed obsolesce (non-removable glued battery, when in many samsung phones it lasts 1 year and then degrades and causes reboots/shutdowns, see threads in Note 4 forum), curved screen that we do not want; mediocre specs (just 4GB ram and 6 months old chipset).
Add to that the display that scratches easily (in a 850 EUR device),
and you will soon realize that you have thrown 850 EUR away.
there are some great devices that have similar or better specs, and price half of the cost:
ZTE Axon 7 450 EUR
OP3 400 EUR.
if you ask for the price, that does not mean you cannot afford something.
that may mean you are not accustomed to throw money away.
Señor Sjon said:
Because Samsung isn't a Rolls Royce., but a Hyundai. The phone has an 100 euro markup on previous Notes, but doesn't add 100 euro worth of stuff. People don't want to pay for stuff they don't want (edged screen; fragile, slippery glass everywhere; smaller battery than S7E; no CPU/RAM upgrades) and not getting what they do want (IR, removable battery, latest in CPU; ~6" flat screen). Other brands have passed them left, right and center and the only distinguishing feature is the S-pen. But is that worth more than double the price of a O+3?
As a Note 3 owner, I was really looking forward to this phone. It started out good (Exynos 8893, 6 GB RAM, 5,8" screen, 4.000 mAh battery) but as time passed, all specs changed for the worse untill we now have the S7E Stylus Edition with IrisScanner. While you get buy incentives all over the world and even for older models, no such thing in the Netherlands.. We didn't even got the Note 5 here, so the Note 4 was the last true Note. Only when the Note 7 was introduced, almost every store suddenly sold out their Note 4's.
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I agree with you. Not only, why does samsung sell just an "enhanced" S7 "note version" close to the end of the year? It will be an obsolete one in a few months...
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there are some great devices that have similar or better specs, and price half of the cost:
ZTE Axon 7 450 EUR
OP3 400 EUR.
if you ask for the price, that does not mean you cannot afford something.
that may mean you are not accustomed to throw money away.
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Add the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe if it ever arrives on the market and the Nexus Marlin is rumoured at $599 (€600 I presume).
With Android Nougat, every phone will be able to use split screen, another Samsung-Only feature generally available.
steno_c said:
I agree with you. Not only, why does samsung sell just an "enhanced" S7 "note version" close to the end of the year? It will be an obsolete one in a few months...
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Thanks for the reply. May I pose this to you? The Samsung Galaxy S range is a combination of three mobiles. The S7, S7 edge and Note7. The Note has NOT been introduced to replace the other S7 models but to complement them by the addition of the S-pen with larger 64GB of internal memory.
The Note 7 is not intended to appeal to all mobile phone users, its general roll is a business persons mobile.
Ryland
Skipped note 5 (couldn't get it anyway). Have used a Note 4 for almost two years now. Have it modded to near perfection and it works away without any trouble.
Saw the Note 7 and that what it. Ordered and will get it early Sept.
That's how it works. As for the nay sayers: get a device you like and don't waste your energy on the negative.
Señor Sjon said:
Because Samsung isn't a Rolls Royce., but a Hyundai. The phone has an 100 euro markup on previous Notes, but doesn't add 100 euro worth of stuff. People don't want to pay for stuff they don't want (edged screen; fragile, slippery glass everywhere; smaller battery than S7E; no CPU/RAM upgrades) and not getting what they do want (IR, removable battery, latest in CPU; ~6" flat screen). Other brands have passed them left, right and center and the only distinguishing feature is the S-pen. But is that worth more than double the price of a O+3?
As a Note 3 owner, I was really looking forward to this phone. It started out good (Exynos 8893, 6 GB RAM, 5,8" screen, 4.000 mAh battery) but as time passed, all specs changed for the worse untill we now have the S7E Stylus Edition with IrisScanner. While you get buy incentives all over the world and even for older models, no such thing in the Netherlands.. We didn't even got the Note 5 here, so the Note 4 was the last true Note. Only when the Note 7 was introduced, almost every store suddenly sold out their Note 4's.
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Hi, Thanks for the reply. Hyundai? Can you name an electronic device that is either not entirely made of or has parts made in Asia including Apple? If the Note 7 where manufactured in Europe or the USA we could double or triple the price.
No where did Samsung release the data you have quoted in your reply. Such crystal ball gazing has become the forte of such online mags as "Trusted reviews" that are anything but to be trusted.
Please read my above reply to our peer as I explained there the Note 7 is an addition to an existing range of Galaxy S 7's namely the S7, S7 Edge and now the Note 7. All made in Asia as are all mobile phones at present.
Ryland
Señor Sjon said:
Because Samsung isn't a Rolls Royce., but a Hyundai. The phone has an 100 euro markup on previous Notes, but doesn't add 100 euro worth of stuff. People don't want to pay for stuff they don't want (edged screen; fragile, slippery glass everywhere; smaller battery than S7E; no CPU/RAM upgrades) and not getting what they do want (IR, removable battery, latest in CPU; ~6" flat screen). Other brands have passed them left, right and center and the only distinguishing feature is the S-pen. But is that worth more than double the price of a O+3?
As a Note 3 owner, I was really looking forward to this phone. It started out good (Exynos 8893, 6 GB RAM, 5,8" screen, 4.000 mAh battery) but as time passed, all specs changed for the worse untill we now have the S7E Stylus Edition with IrisScanner. While you get buy incentives all over the world and even for older models, no such thing in the Netherlands.. We didn't even got the Note 5 here, so the Note 4 was the last true Note. Only when the Note 7 was introduced, almost every store suddenly sold out their Note 4's.
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If all you said is true, the Note 7 won't sell the millions of phones it is expected to. IN fact, pre-release sales appear to have surpassed Samsungs original estimates and caused some delays in getting product for some areas. Apparently people do want smaller batteries, slippery glass, edged screen, non removable battery, and so on.
All kidding aside, stuff costs money. Price is determined by cost of development, materials, demand and what the market will bear. If in fact the cost is found to be too high, you will see it come down - if it is more than you want to spend and you don't like the features it does offer, simple answer is just don't buy it.
Skipped note 5, no microsd support, no changeable battery.
I use a rooted and modded note 3. It works fine. And spen is a must. Sure a business mobile.
But more ram, for me should be very useful. More widget, more long notes, more screens opened, more multitasking...
And to connect directly to an external hard disk at the moment, just a dream.
Once note series was the real samsung flagship, obviously in my modest opinion.
You purchased a note to get an hardware which would be inherited by the next S series... So an hardware lasting for 6/8 months...up to date... And you paid it a lot.
Now you're right, note is just a complement...same s series hardware...it follows the s series, but it keeps spen...
So I think it should have the same s series price...it comes a few months later with its same harware...
I am not wasting my energy on the negative, talking here, and appreciate your polite talking too, I just try understanding how not to waste my money...
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If all you said is true, the Note 7 won't sell the millions of phones it is expected to. IN fact, pre-release sales appear to have surpassed Samsungs original estimates and caused some delays in getting product for some areas. Apparently people do want smaller batteries, slippery glass, edged screen, non removable battery, and so on.
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or, maybe it's a traditional PR gimmick for overpriced products,
to make you believe that the device is successful, when it may be the complete opposite.
My old Note 2 cost me ~$600 which was a suitable price. $600-$700 is reasonable for a flagship. Samsung priced the Note 7 at $850 to test the market. If the market bites, next year it will be $900. If people don't buy they'll lower the price. Also by selling at a a high price you automatically imply the product is extremely high end and premium, further increasing exclusivity and demand. Owning a Note 7 is supposed to be a statement of wealth because everyone will know you paid a big amount for it. Samsung is trying to replicate Apple's business model. Owning an Apple product is a statement of wealth, at least if you are a consumerist. Those of us who aren't consumerists will see through the marketing and buy whatever makes sense from a cost / performance standpoint. As far as the Note 7 goes you will see diminishing returns at around $600 since the remaining $250 is a luxury premium. The added features of a Note 7 as compared to a OnePlus 3 are worth maybe $200 to $300 tops, but not $450.
I agree, just a PR gimmick...
Samsung sold so many S7 that with scraps is making many note 7...
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Skipped note 5, no microsd support, no changeable battery.
I use a rooted and modded note 3. It works fine. And spen is a must. Sure a business mobile.
But more ram, for me should be very useful. More widget, more long notes, more screens opened, more multitasking...
And to connect directly to an external hard disk at the moment, just a dream.
Once note series was the real samsung flagship, obviously in my modest opinion.
You purchased a note to get an hardware which would be inherited by the next S series... So an hardware lasting for 6/8 months...up to date... And you paid it a lot.
Now you're right, note is just a complement...same s series hardware...it follows the s series, but it keeps spen...
So I think it should have the same s series price...it comes a few months later with its same harware...
I am not wasting my energy on the negative, talking here, and appreciate your polite talking too, I just try understanding how not to waste my money...
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Thanks for your reply. Civility is an education and thanks for being civil. :good:
With respect, to write the Note 7 is the same mobile as the S7 is an error. WE both know the specs of both mobiles so I wont bore you with them. The S-pen alone has undergone major hardware and software development its now virtually at the very least a mouse. You do also realise that in this country the S7edge with 64GB is MORE expensive than the Note 7!
I am NOT suggesting the Note 7 is cheap. Its very expensive but the cost is relative to the product.
Again the Note 7 was not designed to be a replacement for the S7 edge but an addition to the S7 range.
Nice to debate with you.
Ryland
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Thanks for your reply. Civility is an education and thanks for being civil. :good:
With respect, to write the Note 7 is the same mobile as the S7 is an error. WE both know the specs of both mobiles so I wont bore you with them. The S-pen alone has undergone major hardware and software development its now virtually at the very least a mouse. You do also realise that in this country the S7edge with 64GB is MORE expensive than the Note 7!
I am NOT suggesting the Note 7 is cheap. Its very expensive but the cost is relative to the product.
Again the Note 7 was not designed to be a replacement for the S7 edge but an addition to the S7 range.
Nice to debate with you.
Ryland
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I agree with you, is an addition to s series...
Once it was an apart serie....
I mean a note smartphone was presented at the end of year, but still in the next half of the year was the smartphone that had to be beaten...
Now the S serie took its place...but at the beginning of the year...
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or, maybe it's a traditional PR gimmick for overpriced products,
to make you believe that the device is successful, when it may be the complete opposite.
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Hi, We are now in the realms of pure fantasy. This is the MO of 'Trusted reviews'. The Note 7 has been delayed for release in several countries due to over demand. Only time will tell if the unit is a success or otherwise. To date its hell even trying to get one.
Ryland
Just to let you know, here in Italy the main internet and data services providers do not even know what a note 7 is... No offer...
just the main chain of stores selling are proposing something...
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or, maybe it's a traditional PR gimmick for overpriced products,
to make you believe that the device is successful, when it may be the complete opposite.
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right. And LBJ killed Kennedy - Marilyn Monroe was killed by the CIA and the Government is hiding the existance of Aliens to avoid mass riots.
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The Note 7 has been delayed for release in several countries due to over demand.
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Samsung PR tells you it is "due to over demand", and you believe it.
i wouldn't, as you can't really verify it.
as i read from the forums, the 2nd biggest operator here has been given only 1000 Note 7s for the whole country. This is nothing.
The strategy is the following:
1) you dedicate miserable quantity of the product for pre-sale;
2) it gets reserved quickly (as the amount is MISERABLY LOW);
3) you declare "all pre-sale done!!! huge success!! over demand!!!"
4) naive people, and those that do not question PR gimmicks, believe it, and rush to buy...
i repeat, Note 7, grossly overpriced at 850 EUR, with unwanted curved screen, non-removable battery, mediocre RAM amount, and with the screen that scratches easily, is NOT going to sell like hot cakes, NOT AT ALL.
The majority of reviews I've read (and I've read a lot) have been overwhelmingly positive. Forbes was tough on the Note7 but Forbes' opinion on technology isn't incredibly valid. AnandTech's biggest issue was lack of symmetry because the cutouts for the cameras and ports weren't aligned with each other. If that's all a tough grading uber-technical site like AnandTech can fault then the Note7 must be pretty good.

Samsung Will Release the S8 and The Note 8 at the same time...?

Yesterday, I posted a message in this board about a theory i had...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...rry-note-8-t3490413/post70701827#post70701827
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Now, here's some news for the Note fans...
Today a Video was released of two cases prepared for the two upcoming Samsung Phone Models which will be released soon..
and Guess what?
The bigger case has an "S-Pen" Opening...
Video: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzbccI2ykLA"
Just sayin!
PS: Here's the theory I posted yesterday:
Theory based on Internet Rumors:
Rumors:
- Samsung is working on a S-Pen for the S Series... (you guys remember this one right?)
- There will be 2 S8. One normal screen, QHD, and another 4k.
- S8 won't be revealed next month. (not a rumor anymore).
Theory:
Around April or May, Samsung will reveal both the S8 and the Note 8 at the same time. The rumor about the S8 Edge with an S pen is in fact the Note 8 itself. There won't be any "bigger version of the S series anymore like the edge. It will be flagship and the Note. Which makes sense when you think of it since Samsung will abandon the flat screen, they don't need to separate the "Edge" series anymore. Why not just have one single event, less confusion, and have 1 S phone and 1 Note.
So this year we will get a Note way sooner. Around May or June, same time as the S8. That's why they postponed the S8 presentation.
Correction, both cases have an "s-pen opening". The s seris don't come with s-pens, it is just not the s series. So why would those be s-pen openings?
This is not a new rumour by the way, it has been speculated it is that but many then thought it is not.
I DO wish your theory was true and I will be over the moon if it is, but I don't think so. I think we will have a Note8 in December.
It could be true if Samsung would launch a phone with foldable screen this year.
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I don't understand why they just don't tell us their plans. At least a hint. The least they could do knowing many of us are waiting to upgrade. Honestly I don't think my phone will last long enough if they don't step up the pace with the Note8. And I don't think s8 will be worth the price compared to Huawei P10. If it is not a note, it may as well not be Samsung.
If they do somehow release them together then that for me is a no Brainer on the one I'd choose ?
AmyF, Sent from my Note 5
There is no way Samsung would ever make things that easy or put themselves on the line for possible new unresolved bugs so soon. If you want a note eight you better have fixed your own note seven yourself like the boss you are and get ready to sit tight for August / September release of the note 8 if not later. Unless you want to jump ship or use inferior hardware.
Galaxy S8 Plus will be my next badboy device...
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Galaxy S8 Plus will be my next badboy device...
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I wouldn't consider anything smaller than my Note 5 5.7" the s7edge is good (I have that thru tmobile and will jump it to the next phone) but the screens too small and I'm not thrilled about the angle of the curved screen
AmyF, Sent from my Note 5
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I wouldn't consider anything smaller than my Note 5 5.7" the s7edge is good (I have that thru tmobile and will jump it to the next phone) but the screens too small and I'm not thrilled about the angle of the curved screen
AmyF, Sent from my Note 5
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Yep, the S8 Plus 6.2 should work for me just fine! :good:

Note 20 upgrade

Still kind of early, but anyone here upgrading form there note 10+ to the note 20? I usually like to keep my phones for 2 years, but the Samsung trade in makes the upgrade appealing. Share your thoughts! who will be upgrading or who will be rocking the note 10+
Here in Italy the value of the note10+ is just 330€ if you trade it in...
I think it's better to sell it privately
There is really nothing on the Note 10+ I find lacking. I think the only reason I could see upgrading would be for 5g, but I expect it to be years yet before that will make sense, even though I live in a large city that is already getting coverage. Even then, current speeds are perfectly fine for my needs, so it would be about coverage.
I will upgrade next year, among other reasons, I find the cam module of the note20 extraordinaily ugly, I hope they correct it for the 21 model
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There is really nothing on the Note 10+ I find lacking. I think the only reason I could see upgrading would be for 5g, but I expect it to be years yet before that will make sense, even though I live in a large city that is already getting coverage. Even then, current speeds are perfectly fine for my needs, so it would be about coverage.
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I think the same as you are, and 5G is the only thing that maybe the reason (not sure, the 100-megabyte/Sec I get now is pretty good.) The only thing the make me upgrade devices is the Samsung deal of a trade in. I got my Note10+ (USA) for $485 and returned a S9 so it was a no brainier..
I swapped a 9 for the 10+ as 5G was in my area, no reason to really go to a 20 and to be honest the "discount" you get returning the phone at a year through Samsung is pretty poor, was only about a £100 reduction last year when I returned my Note 9, I got more discount trading in an old S6 I had lying around to get the Note 9 through Samsung. sure it's nice to have the latest phone but you are basically paying 50% of the cost to keep it a year and then have nothing to show for your money.
I probably won`t I have the Note 10+ 5g already with ATT in USA , I originally had the s20 ultra 5g, and i had too many issues with the camera and the Note 20 looks fugly with the camera module. I`ll wait for next year.
I ***** and complain every year, but im all in to upgrade..lol
SM-N935F Note FE OREO
next year will upgrade due to better processor all over the world samsung will launch
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next year will upgrade due to better processor all over the world samsung will launch
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Yes! Next year processors will have amd graphics, I am eagerly waiting to see them!
I'll probably get the Note 20+ or Ultra edition as the standard is rumoured to only have 60hz & no LTPO...
Honestly I'll probably skip next year's as I don't have faith in first generation AMD graphics, it'll be a first for Samsung devices and I think it'll take a few iterations to iron out any issues.
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I'll probably get the Note 20+ or Ultra edition as the standard is rumoured to only have 60hz & no LTPO...
Honestly I'll probably skip next year's as I don't have faith in first generation AMD graphics, it'll be a first for Samsung devices and I think it'll take a few iterations to iron out any issues.
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I somewhat agree with you, but I expect the S21 to be the guinea pig for that matter…
Yeah to me the Galaxy S phones tend to be a test subject as the Note tends to come 6 months later with similar hardware just with the kinks worked out. so by the time the Note 21 comes out they will have had several months of in use testing done by the Galaxy S users to refine it for the Note users.
I def will be upgrading to the note 20. I love my note 10+. There is even a small window I might go for the fold 2.
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I will upgrade next year, among other reasons, I find the cam module of the note20 extraordinaily ugly, I hope they correct it for the 21 model
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IKR? Always been a fan of the Note, but the S20 and Note 20's camera is just fugly, no other way of saying it. And hell, it's not like it's that big an improvement over the Note 10's camera. Actually, in some cases I've seen, the 10 is wahaaay better. And the 100x times zoom isn't worth that bump - a gimmick that I'd use a few times... maybe.
I love my note 10+ the only real issue i dislike is the lack of headphone jack. Now I know that all smartphones are leaning towards this " trend" and I can buy and adapter, but I realy wish they would have included it
I hope they Not go with the trend !!! The trend is to make round corners phones, that looks like dildo. I Hate that ****! That's why i bougth 10+ 5g (an old phone from august 2019). One of the few with a square screen.
10+ 5g here. If you can imagine that some headphones does not work on my 10+... "does not recognise"... I have Oneodio Headphones Professional Studio Dynamic Stereo DJ. With OnePlus adapter usb type C to 3,5mm jack.
On my OnePlus 7 Pro sound was Awesome! On s20+ 5g (sold) sound horrible, but the headphones workt.
And of course i hope the Greed stops ! And the price will Not be 1500 Euro.

Question So... Who's as excited as I am for this ?

This phone is a massive 90° turn for google as much on the software side than the hardware.
SO let me know:
1- Are you excited for the GP6 Pro?
2- Do you plan on buying it?
3- What the feature, following the leaks and the I/O that you anticipate the most?
For me :
1- YESSSSSS!!!!!!! (see the title)
2- I'd love to, I'll wait though. I want to see the firsts feedbacks before buying one.
3- To me, the whitechapel SoC really picked my interest a lot. It will either be a deception or a big nice surprise, don't disappoint me Google!
Yes, sort of.
Maybe. I have the Pixel 5: a meh phone, with useless VZ 5G so I turned it off. The only things I'm happy with are battery life, weight/portability, and that I didn't upgrade my plan to a 5G plan.
New in-house chip. I'm not holding my breath on "new and improved" because Google tends to let everyone down prior to announcement, so I'm expecting the same here.
Edit: To be fair, I flipped flopped on buying the Samsung Galaxy 21 Ultra for the camera. What keeps me with Pixel is their call screening. There's been so many of them, the call screening is the best.
I'm buying it the second it's ready!
I'm not excited bcz it has the same 8mp periscope that Vivo, Realme or ZTE etc are using
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I'm not excited bcz it has the same 8mp periscope that Vivo, Realme or ZTE etc are using
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Lol and that shows some ignorance. Those other phones don't use Google's software processing for photos. And that's a HUGE deal.
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Lol and that shows some ignorance. Those other phones don't use Google's software processing for photos. And that's a HUGE deal.
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We can atleast have GCam on other 8mp periscopic phones to get a similar output like GP6 pro. Hence wanted Google to have its in-house sensor or atleast get one from other sensor makers specifically for GP6 pro. PS: those other phone can atleast have GCam and I didn't ignore this.
I'm gonna buy it as soon as I can. I am still running my Pixel 2XL.
1- Yes, finally the Pixel phone we were waiting for.... Hopefully
2- Day One
3- Combination of the Whitechapel SOC and Camera setup. Still not the same amount as the 21 Ultra, one thing Google knows is how to get the best out of hardware they go with. We are talking about the potential capability of iPhone structure but with more modern tech throughout the phone.
I'm very excited as I am for most Pixel releases. I am buying the second it becomes available. I'm afraid if I wait, with the chip shortage, I might miss out if I don't act fast. I am really excited about the new chip and, hopefully, tight integration between software and hardware. I am also really excited for the triple camera setup. Between the nearly 1" sensor, higher resolution and Googles image processing software I am fully expecting them to retake the photo crown back from Apple.
I would like to see eSIM availability on day one. One National carrier, and eSIM for spare carrier/international travel. I sold my Samsung S21+ Unlocked because I couldn’t activate an eSIM!
I have currently a Oneplus 8 Pro. Camera is very average, with Android 11 they moved further away from stock Android, Updates come very slow now that there are newer Oneplus devices (had november security patch until mid february, then we got january patch instead of february...)...
I am so excited for Pixel 6 Pro, as this phone is finally a pixel phone that seems to make no compromises:
Tripple cam
Big Battery
120 hz
Great performance chip (not a hardcote gamer, so must not be top notch for me)
New camera senors...!
I think Pixel 6 Pro will crush it this year.. looks like a S21 Ultra with clean Android.. !! Nice!
But i guess the price tag will be huge, around S21 Ultra launch price (maybe just a little less)
I'm not excited. Mainly because ever since I bought the Pixel 1 and loved it, and used it until a year ago when I got a 512 GB Samsung, I was anticipating getting a 256 GB Pixel as my next upgrade once one was available. I waited four years and now, though, I wouldn't upgrade to another Pixel unless it had 512 GB of internal storage (or have a Micro SD slot, which won't happen with the Pixel). I like my music local and in FLAC, and have my entire library with me. I'm happy that they've finally decided to have 256 GB of storage as an option, but that just won't cut it for me anymore.
I'm extremely apprehensive about this, on one hand it's possibly the flagship Pixel that we've always wanted. On the other hand, it's running a custom chipset that's based on exynos. What does that mean for root access? It seems like exynos chips are always running behind on getting rooted and are generally less efficient than their Snapdragon counterparts. That's complicated by the fact that it's basically a bespoke chip now just for pixel phones.
We'll see, I'm currently holding on with my OnePlus 6t, but OP is dead to me going forward. I was planning on definitely switching to Pixel, but now I'm waiting to see how much access the dev community has to the device
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I'm extremely apprehensive about this, on one hand it's possibly the flagship Pixel that we've always wanted. On the other hand, it's running a custom chipset that's based on exynos. What does that mean for root access? It seems like exynos chips are always running behind on getting rooted and are generally less efficient than their Snapdragon counterparts. That's complicated by the fact that it's basically a bespoke chip now just for pixel phones.
We'll see, I'm currently holding on with my OnePlus 6t, but OP is dead to me going forward. I was planning on definitely switching to Pixel, but now I'm waiting to see how much access the dev community has to the device
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Yes, Oneplus is really not what it once was anymore.
For Exynos Chipset: the exynos Chipset in the S21 Series is great. It is about on the same level than the Snapdragon. Some people even claim it has better battery life and doesnt heat up as much than the Snapdragon version.
Since the Pixel 6 Chip seems to be based on this Exynos Chip with some minor changes, i am sure it will be great!!
It is the first Exynos phone i would buy.
The difference between exynos and snapdragon s21 is not noticable anymore. I m pretty sure that performance and battery will be great.
Mtha86 said:
Yes, Oneplus is really not what it once was anymore.
For Exynos Chipset: the exynos Chipset in the S21 Series is great. It is about on the same level than the Snapdragon. Some people even claim it has better battery life and doesnt heat up as much than the Snapdragon version.
Since the Pixel 6 Chip seems to be based on this Exynos Chip with some minor changes, i am sure it will be great!!
It is the first Exynos phone i would buy.
The difference between exynos and snapdragon s21 is not noticable anymore. I m pretty sure that performance and battery will be great.
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True, while the gap is closing, there is still a gap. That's really not my main holdup, it's getting root without losing too many features.
Google has been tightening the reins on Android for years. Hopefully we will get full root access without many sacrifices, just need to wait and see
The last google phone I purchased was the Nexus 4 at release, then later I got a Nexus 9. The Pixel series has never interested me, especially design wise. If the P6P's renders are accurate it'll be my 1st google device in years.
I've been running Samsung devices the past few years because no Pixel hardware has really impressed me since the 2XL. The software has been great but hardware has been lacking. I desperately want to get back on the Pixel bandwagon and if all these leaks turn out to be accurate this will finally be the phone that does it! I'll be trading in my Note Ultra 20 on it. Wish we didn't have to wait til late September or October.
Yep...I am. I hope the Pro version has a flat screen instead of a curved screen though.
Raiz said:
This phone is a massive 90° turn for google as much on the software side than the hardware.
SO let me know:
1- Are you excited for the GP6 Pro?
2- Do you plan on buying it?
3- What the feature, following the leaks and the I/O that you anticipate the most?
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1. I'm stoked. Haven't been this excited for a Google device since the Galaxy Nexus w/Ice Cream Sandwich, though the Nexus 5 leak accompanied by KitKat ranks up there.
2. I plan on F5'ing the Google Store repeatedly as soon as the presentation starts, so yeah.
3. Whitechapel and, Material You (biggest software overhaul since 4.4). Also it seems like Google gives a darn about hardware now.
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Yep...I am. I hope the Pro version has a flat screen instead of a curved screen.
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With u on this

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