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Is it me or speaker sounds bad?
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I agree. Coming from a Moto X (2013) with a mono speaker on back of phone, I thought a single speaker on front couldn't be any worse. Wrong. The 5X speaker is nowhere close to the volume/sound of the Moto X. Not a deal-breaker for me, but certainly a disappointment.
It's definitely pretty terrible in comparison to the Nexus 6 I owned previously.
Alot of distortion at full volume.
It's really not that good compared to my Galaxy S5. Only good thing about it is that it's front facing.
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Better than the Nexus 5 and at least it's facing in the correct direction.
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Better than the Nexus 5 and at least it's facing in the correct direction.
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Very true, that bottom speaker only on one side uggg. You had to hold the phone sideways with a cup in your hand to bounce the sound towards you.
And I agree with speaker so far doesn't sound good at higher volumes, which aren't high enough.
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As the title suggested I'm transiting from a 2013 moto X (1st Gen) to a Nexus 5X. Personally I don't want to get a large phone (ie moto X style), want to return to Nexus devices (last being a Galaxy Nexus). I also want to get day one updates instead of waiting on carriers (like Verizon). I also want to finally get a phone that I can play around with a fingerprint reader. I'd love to get your views upon the Nexus 5x when compared to the first gen moto X.
Seeing as its been 2 years since I've gotten a new phone, how would you compare the Moto X 2013 to the Nexus 5x for screen, battery and performance.
-I'm not looking for high end game performance just want a nice snappy interface.
-Screen I'm just looking for a nice display to look at nothing really high end (I rather watch videos on my calibrated HDTV or monitor at home).
-And battery to get me through a day with low to medium web browsing.
Also on a side note my Moto X lately has been suffering from the optimizing apps upon start up bug that is in 5.1, has this problem been corrected in 6.0?
I was actually in the same boat, having moved from a Galaxy Nexus to the first gen Moto X. I was really hesitant mostly because the Moto X had been my favorite phone so far.
For me, the transition has been pretty excellent. The phone is noticeably bigger, which ended up not being too much of a concern for me. Performance is definitely better than on Nexus 5X and I have rarely seen any issues that lasted more than a couple of seconds. I think the phone will definitely meet your list in screen, performance, and battery.
I cannot say much on the optimizing apps bug, as I never got my Moto X to actually upgrade with the most recent patches, but I've not seen anything like that on the Nexus 5X after the system update it had.
Overall, I would definitely suggest the Nexus 5X as an upgrade to the Moto X. I was very happy with the switch.
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As the title suggested I'm transiting from a 2013 moto X (1st Gen) to a Nexus 5X. Personally I don't want to get a large phone (ie moto X style), want to return to Nexus devices (last being a Galaxy Nexus). I also want to get day one updates instead of waiting on carriers (like Verizon). I also want to finally get a phone that I can play around with a fingerprint reader. I'd love to get your views upon the Nexus 5x when compared to the first gen moto X.
Seeing as its been 2 years since I've gotten a new phone, how would you compare the Moto X 2013 to the Nexus 5x for screen, battery and performance.
-I'm not looking for high end game performance just want a nice snappy interface.
-Screen I'm just looking for a nice display to look at nothing really high end (I rather watch videos on my calibrated HDTV or monitor at home).
-And battery to get me through a day with low to medium web browsing.
Also on a side note my Moto X lately has been suffering from the optimizing apps upon start up bug that is in 5.1, has this problem been corrected in 6.0?
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I moved from a 2013 Moto X to the Nexus 5X as well. I've been very happy with the move - as mentioned above, the screen is very nice compared to the Moto X as well as performance (though neither was terrible on my Moto X). There are some adjustments I've needed to make, the size is certainly larger - but I've adapted pretty quickly, it's still mostly one-hand usable by me. I miss Motorola's Active Display - Marshmallow's Ambient Display is nice, but not nearly as responsive as Active Display (and I liked that I could configure Active Display to only allow specific apps to trigger). I'm not a heavy user and don't try to meet some of the screen on times others report; I simply want to use my phone as needed throughout the day and be able to make it through the day without the need to charge. So far I've been able to accomplish that - in fact, I managed two days of standby without charging, now that's under my usage patterns which is minimal calls, a few Hangout messages light gaming and emails. The first few days, when I was non-stop using it I managed to make it through a full day without battery saver engaging.
I've not encountered the optimizing apps bug on either device (though I read for the Moto X it only occurred if the device was charging when restarted).
Same move for me. Verizon moto x 2013 to the nexus 5x.
Only thing I miss about the moto is size and vibration strength. Everything else is far superior.
No lag. Amoled screens look nice and have the nifty "active display" feature. I miss that on the moto, but I'm never getting another amoled screen. My gs3 had light burn in on the status bar after a year. My moto x had significant burn in on the status bar and software key bar after a month. Didn't ruin the phone but it was noticeable on solid backgrounds. Done with dealing with that.
The screen on the nexus 5x is really nice and the resolution bump is welcomed.
Just got my nexus 5x today coming from '13 Verizon moto x. So far, I'm really missing the consistent moto display. The ambient display is just awful compared to it. It's not awful on its own but when you have seen how good it can be, it's a major disappointment.
Vibration is pathetic, how are you ever supposed to feel it's tiny tremor??
Other than that, battery seems decent and the screen is gorgeous. Also quite snappy but the X wasn't really that slow.
I'll need to use it for a few days but I'm not convinced it's worth the upgrade over my moto x 2013 yet.
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Just got my nexus 5x today coming from '13 Verizon moto x. So far, I'm really missing the consistent moto display. The ambient display is just awful compared to it. It's not awful on its own but when you have seen how good it can be, it's a major disappointment.
Vibration is pathetic, how are you ever supposed to feel it's tiny tremor??
Other than that, battery seems decent and the screen is gorgeous. Also quite snappy but the X wasn't really that slow.
I'll need to use it for a few days but I'm not convinced it's worth the upgrade over my moto x 2013 yet.
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I can't imagine it not being worth the upgrade?
Camera, there is no comparison. Battery life, display resolution, fingerprint reader, speed, UPDATES...
The only thing the 13x has on it is moto actions/display, and better display technology. I prefer AMOLED heavily over LCD. That would make the 5x an excellent device. I'm still torn between my 14x and the 5x due to notifications and the display types.
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I can't imagine it not being worth the upgrade?
Camera, there is no comparison. Battery life, display resolution, fingerprint reader, speed, UPDATES...
The only thing the 13x has on it is moto actions/display, and better display technology. I prefer AMOLED heavily over LCD. That would make the 5x an excellent device. I'm still torn between my 14x and the 5x due to notifications and the display types.
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True, I guess Im just hung up on the notifications. Really wish it had 3GB of RAM too because I essentially didn't update my RAM amount.
14x looks great but I'm really liking the fingerprint scanner on the 5x! haha
Edit: Also I can tell the X has a bit better color saturation. Although I like the brightness and resolution of the 5x better.
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True, I guess Im just hung up on the notifications. Really wish it had 3GB of RAM too because I essentially didn't update my RAM amount.
14x looks great but I'm really liking the fingerprint scanner on the 5x! haha
Edit: Also I can tell the X has a bit better color saturation. Although I like the brightness and resolution of the 5x better.
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I'm not going to sugar coat it, with the 14X and the 5x side by side I'm pretty disappointed looking at the 5x. I prefer vibrant punchy colors and blacks that amoled produces. The 5x is just washed out in comparison.
I have problems with my Moto X shutting down randomly at various stages of battery life. Which is super frustrating not knowing when my phone is going to die. Really the only reason I lean towards the 5x. The 5x is a great device, just missing some of the things I really love about the Moto X.
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I'm not going to sugar coat it, with the 14X and the 5x side by side I'm pretty disappointed looking at the 5x. I prefer vibrant punchy colors and blacks that amoled produces. The 5x is just washed out in comparison.
I have problems with my Moto X shutting down randomly at various stages of battery life. Which is super frustrating not knowing when my phone is going to die. Really the only reason I lean towards the 5x. The 5x is a great device, just missing some of the things I really love about the Moto X.
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I'd say that sums it up for me too...great just missing some good moto x features. I'll give it a couple weeks to decide if I'll keep it since Google has a generous return period now.
Who knows I might try the 6p, although holding the 5x I'm not sure I can imagine going bigger!
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I'd say that sums it up for me too...great just missing some good moto x features. I'll give it a couple weeks to decide if I'll keep it since Google has a generous return period now.
Who knows I might try the 6p, although holding the 5x I'm not sure I can imagine going bigger!
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That's the issue. 6p is way too big, and 100% not an option.
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I have a ROM problem.... T-Mobil is giving a $325 rebate and wondering if worth the upgrade $$ ? Thoughts?
I like the 6p over the pixel in terms of build quality but pixel just slightly snappier but you'd be Happy with either one
One of my best friends has the 6P, and I have the Pixel XL. The pixel is a little faster than his 6P, but the screen is slightly smaller. He wants a pixel, but decided he would wait for the pixel 2 because 6P -> Pixel isn't that much of a jump.
basically, pixel is a little faster and ive noticed better speeds when connected to the same wifi network when streaming videos (honestly negligible difference). The camera on the pixel is way more detailed/
hope this helped.
I agree I have both the 6p and the Pixel XL and while the pixel is a little faster the 6p is no slouch. Now that I have both I'm amazed how smooth the 6p still is. If you can wait just wait for the 2. Either way, though you will be happy. Now if you want a better camera then the pixel definitely has that over the 6p.
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Meh... With that amount of credit I would go with the Pixel XL.
The camera is awesome.. The screen is great... Its the fastest Android phone I have owned.
I say go with Pixel XL
Just for the outstanding looking and ultra fast system I think Pixel wouldn't disappoint you.
What about developer support ? ROMs, TWRP, etc? I tend be bounce between Pure Nexus, Linage, etc.
Screen brightness is much brighter on Pixel if that matters. Especially after using Flars HBM mod.
I had to change when I jumped to verizon (long story). Really miss the 6P. Pixel XL is okay but doesn't feel as solid. Can't root the stupid Pixel XL either.
I have 6p and pixel xl, as you have read before, I feel the build quality on 6p is more premium and solid than the pixel, i miss the loud speakers, custom ROMs and mods varieties on 6p,
in contrast, pixel XL screen is brighter, system speed is smoother and snappier, the camera is awesome, and the best thing in pixel XL that it has a great battery life..
the worst thing in pixel XL that i dont feel it as a major update from 6p ( remember, we paid worth of 860$ for pixel xl)and I feel it will have a dark future in customizations and development which is the opposite in Nexus family..simple things like installing Roms and rooting are really pain in the neck... honestly...despite the advantages of pixel xl..im thinking to return back to 6p..
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I have 6p and pixel xl, as you have read before, I feel the build quality on 6p is more premium and solid than the pixel, i miss the loud speakers, custom ROMs and mods varieties on 6p,
in contrast, pixel XL screen is brighter, system speed is smoother and snappier, the camera is awesome, and the best thing in pixel XL that it has a great battery life..
the worst thing in pixel XL that i dont feel it as a major update from 6p ( remember, we paid worth of 860$ for pixel xl)and I feel it will have a dark future in customizations and development which is the opposite in Nexus family..simple things like installing Roms and rooting are really pain in the neck... honestly...despite the advantages of pixel xl..im thinking to return back to 6p..
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I've come from 6p also, Development does seem a little slow in comparison. I think it's mainly due to the high price of the unit for starters.
Then there's the new partition layout which has understandably slowed things down.
Also a lot of developers are posting their builds outside of XDA now.
Let's hope that things pick up here.
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I've come from 6p also, Development does seem a little slow in comparison. I think it's mainly due to the high price of the unit for starters.
Then there's the new partition layout which has understandably slowed things down.
Also a lot of developers are posting their builds outside of XDA now.
Let's hope that things pick up here.
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Absolutely bro...but I'm really shocked about Rom development are done outside xda!!
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I had to change when I jumped to verizon (long story). Really miss the 6P. Pixel XL is okay but doesn't feel as solid. Can't root the stupid Pixel XL either.
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What do you mean you cannot root the Pixel XL?
Is this because you have a verizon model with locked boot loader?
My experience has varied compared to some of these posts. I had the 6P and switched to the Pixel XL because of a problem with the noise cancelling mic on the 6P. (Google finally agreed to replace my 6P after I bought the Pixel)
I like the Pixel XL slightly more than the 6P. Not enough to switch if I didn't have an issue with the 6P. Both devices were smooth. I feel like the Pixel has a better build quality. The aluminum on the 6P seemed to dent easily and the buttons weren't very sturdy. Don't get me wrong, the 6P is a very sturdy phone but the Pixel seems to be sturdier. The screen on my 6P was brighter. The Pixel is hard to see in the sun whereas the 6P was not. The 6P has a 64GB option which is what the Pixel should have started at IMO. I had a 6P charging port go bad and had to get that replaced then the replacement had noise canceling mic problems (software issue on stock Android for the 6P) causing an echo for whomever I was talking to. This issue wasn't fixed after 3 security updates so Google replaced it. I haven't really used the replacement yet. The AMOLED screen on the 6P seemed to be affected by screen burn-in from the notification bar and navigation bar rather quickly (probably because it was brighter). Both have really good cameras but the Pixel's is better.
Besides that, the phones are pretty equivalent for everyday use. Both even handle intense use pretty well but the SD 810 in the 6P throttles the speeds regularly under heavy use when the ambient temperature is warm. I haven't experienced throttling on the Pixel.
I don't think upgrading from the 6P to the Pixel is worth it unless you can get the Pixel for the price of the 6P at the time you bought it. IMO, the big price difference isn't justified by the small performance difference.
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My experience has varied compared to some of these posts. I had the 6P and switched to the Pixel XL because of a problem with the noise cancelling mic on the 6P. (Google finally agreed to replace my 6P after I bought the Pixel)
I like the Pixel XL slightly more than the 6P. Not enough to switch if I didn't have an issue with the 6P. Both devices were smooth. I feel like the Pixel has a better build quality. The aluminum on the 6P seemed to dent easily and the buttons weren't very sturdy. Don't get me wrong, the 6P is a very sturdy phone but the Pixel seems to be sturdier. The screen on my 6P was brighter. The Pixel is hard to see in the sun whereas the 6P was not. The 6P has a 64GB option which is what the Pixel should have started at IMO. I had a 6P charging port go bad and had to get that replaced then the replacement had noise canceling mic problems (software issue on stock Android for the 6P) causing an echo for whomever I was talking to. This issue wasn't fixed after 3 security updates so Google replaced it. I haven't really used the replacement yet. The AMOLED screen on the 6P seemed to be affected by screen burn-in from the notification bar and navigation bar rather quickly (probably because it was brighter). Both have really good cameras but the Pixel's is better.
Besides that, the phones are pretty equivalent for everyday use. Both even handle intense use pretty well but the SD 810 in the 6P throttles the speeds regularly under heavy use when the ambient temperature is warm. I haven't experienced throttling on the Pixel.
I don't think upgrading from the 6P to the Pixel is worth it unless you can get the Pixel for the price of the 6P at the time you bought it. IMO, the big price difference isn't justified by the small performance difference.
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The main reason i shifted to pixel mainly because of current bad battery life of 6p, i bought a new pixel XL 128 gb for 700$ ( someone bought it and then he is broke so he needs money) its true that i bought it at a good price, but i still feel its expensive and not convinced worth of upgrade
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The main reason i shifted to pixel mainly because of current bad battery life of 6p, i bought a new pixel XL 128 gb for 700$ ( someone bought it and then he is broke so he needs money) its true that i bought it at a good price, but i still feel its expensive and not convinced worth of upgrade
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I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.
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I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.
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Thanks for the great info around this, with the tmobile rebate and selling my 6P it is 100 delta. Plus battery life and screen brightness is an issue for me during the day outside.
Cheers,
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I had the 6P for 360 days, when it went into the famous bootloop. Just watched a video on youtube, and it suddenly rebooted, and never got out of it. I saw the warning screen, the google logo for 2 seconds, and puff, reboot, then warning, google logo 2 seconds, reboot.... ..... That was my 4th android phone, but the first one that just broke (even the first phone ever that broke). I loved it, I loved big phones, I loved that it was a nexus, it was thin, fast, and I almost cried when it became a brick. I was astonished, when i discovered, that i'm not the only one. Many people, talked on many forums about the same issue (or about the battery dying at 50%), there was no solution, but to return the phone. I will never buy a huawei again. Never....
I returned the phone, and got my money back (on the same day when the guarantee expired....), and I have put some more to it, and bought a 128GB pixel. Yes, the small one, because who the hell has 1100-1200 euros for a damn phone ? (and also because there was no 128GB pixel xl around at that time ).
Where do i start ? This little thing is better in every way, then the 6P or, any other phone I held, or used.
Speed: The 6P was fast, but the pixel is 10 times faster. Everything opens in a moment, even pages in chrome, I can scroll a still loading page. Try to open this xda page in chrome, and scroll a bit down, then back up. The 6P lagged like hell, but there is no lag in the pixel. Try to copy files from the 6P to the computer (i know, who cares, but this somewhat benchmarks the internal memory speed), I was jumping like a monkey when i first saw that I copy files with about 30-40MB/s from the 6P. I did a backup of the pixel and I copied with 140MB/s IN..F*CKING..SANE! No wonder it is faster in every day usage... Ok. Speed is done. It is just faster, no lag, no thinking, loading, nothing. Just does eveything in the blink of an eye. Really.
Sound: The 6P sounds like ****... (I know there is the stereo front facing speaker, but who listens to music on the phone's speaker?) I use headphones, and I listen to music through those. And the 6P was **** even with mods (viper, dolby, .....) The pixel has the same DAC (digital audio converter) like the HTC10, which was famous because of that. And boy, does it sound good. The same music, same headphones, same mods, and the difference is night and day! Eargasm
Build: Just the most premium feel on a phone until now. It is sturdy. A little bit thick, but feels like it can't be broken. That Jerry guy on youtube bent the 6P in half like a piece of paper, but he couldn't bend the pixel. Only a little bit, so the the glass started to shift away from the housing, but it went back to normal when he released it. You could see his fingers shake, and going all white while he tried to bend it. Really. It feels premium. The metal, the glass, I love to hold it.
Screen: Now this is something I don't know. I own the small pixel, which is 5" and "only" full HD, but I must say the colors are much more vivid and the brightness is higher than it was on the 6P. I love the little screen though... It may vary on the pixel xl....
Battery: My god! I never tought this is even possible The small pixel has a 2700MAh battery, a lot smaller then the 6P's but man! I am an extreme user. Not playing but listening to youtube, twitter, browsing, listening to music through a ****load of mods, using at least 2 cpu cores all the time, using the camera, bluetooth/wifi/sync always on, auto brightness set to 50%.... The 6P was great, because I came close to 3hours of screen on time. I loved this. It was my first phone that I only charged once a day. But it was always empty at the end of day. The pixel? Same apps, same usage, same protocol all day, and it has half the battery at the end of the day. I can almost use it for 2 days. Okay, 1.7 days I have reached 7hours of SOT. it is usually 4-5 hours, but in some cases I can even go beyond that. During the night it drops 1%, or not even that.
Processor: I was afraid of the SD810 when i bought the 6P. I read all the articles, but said "**** it! It can't be that bad!". But it is It is ****. If the 6P had the SD820, or 821, It would be on the same level as the pixel, but with that crap, it is worse in energy efficiency, and performance. (and everything...) The SD821 is lightyears away!
Camera: I loved the 6P, because it took very nice pictures, even in low light conditions. I'm not a photographer, I know almost nothing about it, but when I shot my first pixel photo, I have **** my pants It's just awesome. In the dark, in sunlight, the colors, the sharpness, the details, there can be shades, and total sunlight on the same photo... Oh yes, and people who might know some things about photography, said that it is the best camera on a smartphone
Some small things that come with it: I know, it is not a good point, because you can enable it on any phone now, and even before, but google assistant is awesome And there is the unlimited photo/video storage, in original quality. Or that the support for the 6P will end soon, but you win an additional year with the pixel, because it is newer. The VR readiness.. And many many small things...
I wanted to keep the 6P, and I was angry at google when they announced the pixel with these prices. But now, I wouldn't go back to the 6P.. Never. The pixel is worth the damn high price. It is awesome already because it is damn fast. I love to use it. Sometimes I just turn it on, and open something just for fun, and because "maybe this will be the first time I see a lag, or stuttering, or something other than opening it in a damn moment", but it never happens. It just does it without any problems.
By the way, the community is also great, you have the same ****, PureNexus, RR, mods, same kernels (franco, elementalx), everything like the 6P, but I'm getting old, and in my experience, stock is always better then the things that are stuffed with "extra settings". Especially now, that stock android has multiwindow, and many great features from old times. I am only rooted because of tasker, titanium backup, and my music mods. The rest is stock.
It costs a lot of money, but it is worth all of it.. I would totally buy it again, If someone would ask me.
@gubacsek, Welll said, I couldn't agree more.
The Pixel XL is a stunning device, and I have no regrets switching from 6p.
Unlimited photo storage at full quality was an amazing bonus for me, as I take a ridiculous amount of photos and 4k video.
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I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.
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Exactly...today i remembered that I bought 30000 mA power bank and i used to recharge my 6p 2- 3 times a day... With pixel... i totally forgot the power bank!!! Im using the phone on a single charge with average of 5.5 hours SOT from bed to bed time ?(7 am till 10 pm) which is hilarious
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I'm pretty picky about the strength and volume of my phones' vibration motors. I currently have the Note 8 and iPhone 7+ and I like how when I'm sitting in a meeting and receive a notification, everyone doesn't hear incessant buzzing going off in my pocket or bag. Previously owned the Pixel XL and felt it was a bit too loud for my preference. Can anyone provide any insight for the XL 2?
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I'm pretty picky about the strength and volume of my phones' vibration motors. I currently have the Note 8 and iPhone 7+ and I like how when I'm sitting in a meeting and receive a notification, everyone doesn't hear incessant buzzing going off in my pocket or bag. Previously owned the Pixel XL and felt it was a bit too loud for my preference. Can anyone provide any insight for the XL 2?
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IMO: Pixel 2 XL's vibration motor is more vibrate-less noise, than the Pixel XL vibration motor. In short, they got this right.
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Thanks, that's what I was hoping for. October 24th can't come soon enough (barring any shipping delays)!
iPhone is still far better. But the Pixel 2 haptics are much better in terms of being less tinny... more of a deep vibration vs the original Pixel. Compared to the Note8, the Pixel 2 XL is a hair faster/sharper, but not as strong or deep in feel. This might be due to the intensity setting which isn't changeable in settings... will likely require root and a kernel to ramp up the intensity.
I personally am not a fan of it. It feels kinda cheap and weak, at least for haptic feedback when typing. Something I can deal with though. It does have the more vibrate less noise effect so I guess it is more functional for notifying you when in your pocket. I personally like the sharp and fast kind of vibration motors like my Nexus 6P had, although it wasn't very effective at notifying me when in my pocket, it just felt better when typing.
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I personally am not a fan of it. It feels kinda cheap and weak, at least for haptic feedback when typing. Something I can deal with though. It does have the more vibrate less noise effect so I guess it is more functional for notifying you when in your pocket. I personally like the sharp and fast kind of vibration motors like my Nexus 6P had, although it wasn't very effective at notifying me when in my pocket, it just felt better when typing.
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I'd recommend you change the vibration strength of the keyboard then. If you're using the Google keyboard it can be found hnder preferences
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iPhone is still far better. But the Pixel 2 haptics are much better in terms of being less tinny... more of a deep vibration vs the original Pixel. Compared to the Note8, the Pixel 2 XL is a hair faster/sharper, but not as strong or deep in feel. This might be due to the intensity setting which isn't changeable in settings... will likely require root and a kernel to ramp up the intensity.
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Using the phone for a few days now, I agree with Nitemare3219's assessment. Its definitely not as tinny as most other phones but it's not as deep as the i7+/N8 and it has resulted in me missing some calls bc I don't feel the vibration in my pocket. Wish it was stronger in intensity but not a deal breaker for me. There's so much else good about this thing over my other phones including: loud and even stereo speakers, insane battery life, no 4k video stuttering at all, and better still shots.
Serious question related to this thread: For those of you who have haptic feedback on for typing, etc. - why do you like this? Honestly it's one of the first things I do with every phone - turn that stuff off. Only time I like my phone to vibrate is when receiving a call or text.
Just curious as to what people like about it.
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I'd recommend you change the vibration strength of the keyboard then. If you're using the Google keyboard it can be found hnder preferences
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I've tried, but it only increases the vibration duration not the actual strength. I know you can change the actual strength of the vibration with a custom kernel, it was possible with elementalX on the Nexus 6P so I'm holding out for that. Thanks for the suggestion though.
Not sure if this was something the original Pixel and Pixel XL (Or phones have been doing it for some time) did but I did notice that it has an interesting haptic feedback that kind of mimics Apple's Force Touch with a vibration when pressing and releasing for the keyboard and back, home, and multitasking buttons. It's subtle but there. For notifications I find it strong enough. I keep my phone in my front left pocket.
I did come from the Nexus 5X and wasn't a fan of that motor.
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I like the haptic feedback of Pixel 2 XL but vibration upon calls or messages is too weak: if phone is layin down on a hard flat surface, when I receive a call I cannot either feel or hear at all the vibration.
thegios said:
I like the haptic feedback of Pixel 2 XL but vibration upon calls or messages is too weak: if phone is layin down on a hard flat surface, when I receive a call I cannot either feel or hear at all the vibration.
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It's relatively weak while typing or pressing the navigation buttons but I'm fine with that. Are you using it with or without a case? I hear vibrating notifications and calls pretty fine with my TPU case on. That's with regular ambient sounds and not in a busy office or anything.
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I like the haptic feedback of Pixel 2 XL but vibration upon calls or messages is too weak: if phone is layin down on a hard flat surface, when I receive a call I cannot either feel or hear at all the vibration.
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Was the same way on the 6p. Hopefully the kernel Devs can address the issue as they did with the 6p :good:
No case. It's not normal that a phone made of hard material, laying on a harder surface, does not make the surface itself vibrate. I cannot even hear the vibration sound.
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No case. It's not normal that a phone made of hard material, laying on a harder surface, does not make the surface itself vibrate. I cannot even hear the vibration sound.
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But if you can feel it in your pocket then it's doing the job. That's what ringtones and notification sounds are for. If you can't, then don't know what to say. It's not the strongest for sure but it's far from weak, at least on my unit.
Well I can feel it in the jeans pocket, not in the jacket pocket.
Its not samsung or iphone good. It still generate a bit of rattleing noise. But not too bad
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It doesn't rattle like the rubbish you get on my S8+ or HTC 10, and you can't hear it, as it's for feeling not hearing, but you feel it in your trousers which is where it's meant to be imho.
I currently own a Oneplus 6 but have always loved the Pixel line up. This year i was wondering if anyone who owns both or has made the change from the Oneplus 6 to the pixel 3 xl see a difference. Is it worth it to upgrade or just wait to see what the Oneplus 6t brings. I love the stock feel from the pixel and although the oneplus has a similar stock feel i still prefer the look and feel of the pixel maybe because of the better screen not sure. Any comments or comparison i can be pointed to would be appreciated.
I had a one plus 5t, then Huawei p 20 pro and now 3xl. Your biggest upgrade will be the camera. No comparison between the Huawei or pixel camera to one plus, different league altigether. Oxygen Os is pretty clean and the One plus experience is very fast. You probably won't notice much of a speed increase. That said, Google integration is just cleaner with the pixel. I had few issues with one plus and p20 pro with Android auto and it just works with the pixel. Obviously you are doubling your investment so it depends how much your willing to spend. I got a good price for my p20 pro selling it on so got me well toward the price of the pixel.
Good luck deciding,
Mick
I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.
Yeah I want to wait off a bit for the announcement. The thing about the oneplus that it makes the phone slow down is that I prefer the stock pixel dialer and Google messaging so I have to use magisk to get the dialer and the messaging app. But for some reason the messaging app hands and crashes. Also the streen I wish they would finally go to a quad HD since they keep raising the price. And now with no headphone jack rumor I think I rather go back to pure android. [QUOTE=sn0warmy;77941493]I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.[/QUOTE]
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I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.
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Nice review.
I lucked out with a late build of p2xl, so the display looked good with the saturated setting. Could you tell the resolution difference between the OP6 and the P2XL? P3XL?
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MArtyChubbs said:
Nice review.
I lucked out with a late build of p2xl, so the display looked good with the saturated setting. Could you tell the resolution difference between the OP6 and the P2XL? P3XL?
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I can't even compare the screens of the OP6 and 3 XL to my 2 XL, because the 2 XL's screen was just so terrible, in comparison. But comparing the OP6 and 3 XL, the resolution difference is sublte. It's there but subtle. Both look grea. You can just tell the Samsung screen on the 3 XL is just a tad more crisp/sharp.
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I can't even compare the screens of the OP6 and 3 XL to my 2 XL, because the 2 XL's screen was just so terrible, in comparison. But comparing the OP6 and 3 XL, the resolution difference is sublte. It's there but subtle. Both look grea. You can just tell the Samsung screen on the 3 XL is just a tad more crisp/sharp.
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Agree
I did
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I had a one plus 5t, then Huawei p 20 pro and now 3xl. Your biggest upgrade will be the camera. No comparison between the Huawei or pixel camera to one plus, different league altigether. Oxygen Os is pretty clean and the One plus experience is very fast. You probably won't notice much of a speed increase. That said, Google integration is just cleaner with the pixel. I had few issues with one plus and p20 pro with Android auto and it just works with the pixel. Obviously you are doubling your investment so it depends how much your willing to spend. I got a good price for my p20 pro selling it on so got me well toward the price of the pixel.
Good luck deciding,
Mick
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How do you find your P20 Pro compared to the other two? What issues did you face
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How do you find your P20 Pro compared to the other two? What issues did you face
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My main issues with the p20 pro was updates are a little slow, also android auto didn't work as well. I had issues with screen being drawn incorrectly on car headunit. Couple of niggles with software in general and Bluetooth 4 on the p20 I found my Sony headphones would loose connection in crowded places. Otherwise screen, form factor etc were good. The camera is probably more natural on the pixel but not much in it. It's a pity the pixel doesn't have advanced face unlock as the notch is surely big enough to accommodate it. So far prefer the pixel. Also knowing Google certify everything in the pixel is a little reassuring. Who knows really what Huawei are running in their phones.
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... Who knows really what Huawei are running in their phones.
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I am sure they have your file in Beijing...
@cherritaker I received my Pixel 3 XL on October 18th. I held onto my OP6 until I tested the Pixel. After a week of using the Pixel as my daily driver, I was very pleased with it. I have sold the OP6 now and am still very pleased with my Pixel 3 XL
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@cherritaker I received my Pixel 3 XL on October 18th. I held onto my OP6 until I tested the Pixel. After a week of using the Pixel as my daily driver, I was very pleased with it. I have sold the OP6 now and am still very pleased with my Pixel 3 XL
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how much did you sell it for, was thinking of keeping it as a backup phone but meh?
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My experiences are this
Oneplus is faster at charging
better at doze (idle drain was stupid ridiculously low vs pixel 3xl)
and for one reason or another i'm getting faster LTE speeds on the OP6 where I live (can't figure out why yet)
Everything else is better on pixel 3
masri1987 said:
how much did you sell it for, was thinking of keeping it as a backup phone but meh?
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My experiences are this
Oneplus is faster at charging
better at doze (idle drain was stupid ridiculously low vs pixel 3xl)
and for one reason or another i'm getting faster LTE speeds on the OP6 where I live (can't figure out why yet)
Everything else is better on pixel 3
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OP6 8/128 mirror black and sold for US$477
btw my P3XL standby battery use is 0.78%
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OP6 8/128 mirror black and sold for US$477
btw my P3XL standby battery use is 0.78%
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what overnight? .78% per hour? what are you using? betterbattery stats to calculate this?
I lost a whopping 12% last night and i had the same apps as i did on my OP6... was wondering maybe if aggressive doze wasn't on as itw as on my OP6.
Also, i will put mine up for sale then. it's 256 matte black .
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what overnight? .78% per hour? what are you using? betterbattery stats to calculate this?
I lost a whopping 12% last night and i had the same apps as i did on my OP6... was wondering maybe if aggressive doze wasn't on as itw as on my OP6.
Also, i will put mine up for sale then. it's 256 matte black .
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My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
I use EXKM battery monitor
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lollyjay said:
My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
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Still much better than 12% overnight...
Also where is the option to allow pin screen to auto detect the pin entry without pressing enter
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lollyjay said:
My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
I use EXKM battery monitor
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I unplugged my phone from 100% 5 min ago and it's already at 98% lol
Should I trip about these things or just let it be
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Still much better than 12% overnight...
Also where is the option to allow pin screen to auto detect the pin entry without pressing enter
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I unplugged my phone from 100% 5 min ago and it's already at 98% lol
Should I trip about these things or just let it be
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How long have you had your phone?
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lollyjay said:
How long have you had your phone?
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Since Wednesday
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Since Wednesday
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Probably will settle down after few more days
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