518 ppi against the 538 of the pixel that have the same resolution and slightly a slow diagonal.
My question is there is difference between the Samsung Super Amoled, and the phone from Alphabet, that claims an amoled HD, what is the difference?
You couldn't tell the difference between 518 and 538 pixels unless you're 2 inches from the display. The Note5 and Nexus 6P were competitors launched at the same time. The Samsung panel in the 6P was previous generation. M-B sells their 4 cylinder non-turbo engines to Renault and Mitsubishi to use in their cars. No one gets the family jewels like the blown 6's and V12s. I highly doubt the Pixel's display is the same generation as the Note7's. It's probably a fine display though with the differences alone not enough to determine a buy/no-buy decision. Tech and components have advanced so far that the difference between good and best is getting narrower and narrower.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree Barry, I'd be willing to bet a beer that in blind testing the vast majority of people would see no difference at all from any distance.
I think that the difference is almost imposible to see, but, the important thing here is, the curved display allows to the almost invisible bezels in note 7, and of course a narrower body, so, at a glance the note 7 has a more polished look, not to mention that the screen is more advanced due to s pen capabilities
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I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree Barry, I'd be willing to bet a beer that in blind testing the vast majority of people would see no difference at all from any distance.
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Nope. The human eye is the lowest common denominator. From 12" away, the distance most people hold their phones from their eyes, the difference between 1080P and 1440P is indistinguishable better yet a 20 pixel per inch difference. That's for a person with 20/20 vision.
“Retina Display” is a great marketing name, and it’s the sharpest smartphone display available, 23 percent sharper than the nearest competitor, but objectively it does not meet the quantitative criteria for being a true Retina Display – it’s about a factor of two lower than the acuity of the human Retina. Rather, the iPhone 4 has a “20/20 Vision Display” because when it is held more than 10.5 inches away, a person with 20/20 Vision will not be able to resolve the iPhone 4 screen pixels, which are at 326 ppi (1 arc-minute resolution). But 20/20 Vision is the legal definition of “Normal Vision,” which is at the lower end of true normal vision. There are in fact lots of people with much better than 20/20 Vision, and for most people visual acuity is limited by blurring from the lens in the eye. The best human vision is about 20/10 Vision, twice as good as 20/20 Vision, and that is what corresponds to the acuity of the Retina. So to be a “True Retina Display” a screen needs about 652 ppi at 10.5 inches, or 572 ppi at 12 inches. Unfortunately, a “20/20 Vision Display” doesn’t sound anywhere near as enticing as a “Retina Display” so marketing and science don’t see eye-to-eye on this…
If you want more info search on visual acuity.
lol You might want to read my post again.
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lol You might want to read my post again.
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Oops. Long day. Oh well, someone will benefit.
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Speaking of the Pixel, how about that pricing. $769 for the one with too little memory (32GB) and $869 for the one with too much memory (128GB). Keep in mind, Google branding and all, it's an HTC phone. If nothing else you have to admire Google's moxie. Especially for a phone that looks like a giant 2014 iPhone. That or a supersized 2011 Galaxy S. To each their own.
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I'm normally a sucker for Nexus devices but this one leaves me cold. For that you could get two of the Axons which outspec it. I think Google is trying to jump on the premium phone market after the ship is already sinking. Apple is begining to have a hard time making it work and no one is going to out Apple them. In my crystal ball the premium phone market dies not too far in the future. I'm not that clever though that I figured out something google didn't know, I think they are trying to position themselves for the possiblity of being regulated into opening up the play market which will mean they need their own hardware even if they have to be part of the race to the bottom.
I believe Samsung does NOT give their latest panels away.
I guarantee the Note 7 panel is superior.
Display mate testing will tell us for sure though but for the last 5 years or so, no display has beat Samsung's super AMOLED and the Note series have always had the best displays with even phones like 6P having an inferior OLED panel.
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Speaking of the Pixel, how about that pricing. $769 for the one with too little memory (32GB) and $869 for the one with too much memory (128GB). Keep in mind, Google branding and all, it's an HTC phone.
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Agreed. I had some HTC phones, as you can see in my sig, but after my wife got a Samsung and it blew my HTC out of the water for so many things, I'd never go back. I just switched from a Nexus 6P to the Note 7 and am enjoying being back on Samsung at this point (2 days).
I loved my Nexus 1, particularly the trackball. I don't care how good these screens have become with their touch sensitivity, it isn't as good as rolling a trackball over to exactly where you want. I also liked that they incorporated the notification light into the trackball making it in effect, 3D. Gotta agree with the Samsung screens, they have been at the top of the heap for some time now in their flagships.
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I loved my Nexus 1, particularly the trackball. I don't care how good these screens have become with their touch sensitivity, it isn't as good as rolling a trackball over to exactly where you want. I also liked that they incorporated the notification light into the trackball making it in effect, 3D. Gotta agree with the Samsung screens, they have been at the top of the heap for some time now in their flagships.
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You know, the S pen works fairly well too!
Another thing the trackball was good for, games. I can't stand touchscreen controls.
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I just preorder my Pixel lx, ..... I been with samsung since 2012 ( 4 lines) but this Note 7 fiasco git me really disappointed. The phone is faulty and on top of that i know that we the loyal customers are been F.. bc they are out of replacement but they are selling the phone to new costumers??. Last night i preorder the Pixel XL ( I know,I know!!!! a lot of unknown but waht could be worst than a grenade???) and i will be getting a refund on my Note 7 soon. Not closing the door on buying the next samsung phone but i belive the note7 brand will not recover from this debacle and we will be with a phone that will greatly lose resale value.
well, I never think about resale values, as I never get used phones, I like the note series because the s pen, and, no other phone has it, besides this year note is by far the most beautiful phone among all the flagship devices as of right now
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well, I never think about resale values, as I never get used phones, I like the note series because the s pen, and, no other phone has it, besides this year note is by far the most beautiful phone among all the flagship devices as of right now
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Agreed. We've never sold any of our old phones, so resale is not an issue. If it were, I'd probably buy an iPhone. They seem to hold their value a lot better.
I think the Note 7 will recover just fine from the battery issues, as long as they don't have any other major issues. The only other gripe you really hear about it is the price, and it's not that much more than most of the other flagship phones, including the pixel xl.
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THIS looks tasty and i live in pittsburgh so lte should be soon.
Doesn't look too bad. Curious how much it's going to weigh.
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Heyyy another Pittsburgher lol. You are correct, we were relatively early in the wimax roll out, so I expect a similar timeline for LTE.
I'm waiting for S3 confirmation though, I'm pretty loyal to Samsung.
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Nice Phone ...But Im waitin on the Quad Cores and I had HTC for a long time but I think Im gonna stick with Sammy...Time will tell...
ill prbly have both the s3 and 1x also you do realize this is a dualcore a15 not an a9 and the lte chip is built in so MUCH better battery life. This is a Krait http://www.anandtech.com/show/4170/qualcomms-announces-krait-cpu-the-successor-to-scorpion
it is one bad piece of silicon.
Also with its upgraded graphics it may not be as fast as the exy gen 2 but seeing as how it will be a much more common chip for both at&t sprint and prbly verizon this will make for much faster rom development between the 3 as only the modem should be different.
Nice I've never owned an HTC but I have always liked them, this phone looks sweet!
HTC has one big problem. Some of their drivers have been abysmal in the past.
They put together nice hardware, always. Then they don't use its features. Like gpu acceleration.
I've always owned htc devices since original HTC Touch. Epic Touch was my first Sammy device. And it's like night and day in terms of how snappy it is, compared to say - evo 3d (which I still own, and just used it for about 3 weeks when my old epic touch was in repair.)
Even those T-mob gs2 are apparently much snappier than anything HTC put out with the same scorpion chipset - Sammy just know to properly optimize drivers and deliver the full power of the hardware.
Looks like a nice device but I think I will be sticking with my epic touch for a while.
nabbed you also cant forget sense was not gpu aceled thats part of it. even if they had good drivers. it wouldnt of made a diff
Ewww no best option is
Gnex > SGS3 > The next Nexus > SGS4
^ See the cycle ._.
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Ewww no best option is
Gnex > SGS3 > The next Nexus > SGS4
^ See the cycle ._.
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GN is a downgrade compared to Epic touch - slower gpu and lower res camera.
This design decision by Google has always baffled me - let's make our brand new flagship phone slower than the 10 months old phone by the same manufacturer.
Just wanted to chime in.
1. Quad Core is not actually always better. The phone OS is not optimized for it yet. So, you are really running a 4 cylinder engine on 2. Plus, the current quad cores use the previous generations technology. I read an article that said the new s4 processors are 40 percent more powerful per core over the tegra 3. So, this dual core is faster and more advanced than the tegra 3.
Another way to look at it is the 4 banger in my AUDI is faster than the V6 in your Taurus.
2. The new phone doesn't look anything like the one in the pic. That is a One X. Sprint is not getting the ONE X.
nabbed said:
GN is a downgrade compared to Epic touch - slower gpu and lower res camera.
This design decision by Google has always baffled me - let's make our brand new flagship phone slower than the 10 months old phone by the same manufacturer.
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Like the Post above me explains google chooses hardware that best fits and utilizes their software ...
Why do you think the iPhone has ****ty specs but is still one of (if not the best) smartphone on the market ?
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Like the Post above me explains google chooses hardware that best fits and utilizes their software ...
Why do you think the iPhone has ****ty specs but is still one of (if not the best) smartphone on the market ?
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Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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.. Hardware isn't everything...
Another pittsburgher here, I am going to wait for the s3 also. The one x looks great but the s3 will probably be alot more optimized. I just hope they put out the white one at launch instead of waiting a month or two after launch.
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Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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the iPhone has really good hardware. Besides that point, the primary reason iOS performs so well (besides the steller hardware) is that that iOS does more RealTime prioritizing. It essentially gives the current task top priority, which is why iOS can't do real multi tasking, they suspend apps and then resume them as needed (Android does this too, albeit slightly different - onPause onResume, etc).
So the combination of the iPhone's good hardware with high prio. for the foreground tasks is why their OS is super snappy (this could be called great design, and they definitely utilize their hardware to the max for rendering effects and what not)
It has nothing to do with Objective-C vs Java either, as some people think. Ever since the dalvik VM has adopted JIT, the performance differences between the languages is minimal
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Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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i hate to break it to you but megapixels doesnt equal image quality, my nexus s 4g blows the water out of my photons 8mp camera. samsung makes really decent cameras. same goes for teh iphone, it has hands down one of the BEST image sensors in the market for phones.
so even though the iphone 4's camera is 5MP's i would honestly stack it up against almost any android phone currently out in terms of picture quality. now if your looking for bigger images then yea grab that 8mp camera.
the reason why apple doesnt need to have the best hardware out there every 6 months is because they only have at most 6 (current gen iphone, ipad and itouch plus previous gen) platforms to write iOS for, and they do a VERY good job of optimizing the code for em all. companies like samsung or htc have a crapload of devices flooding the market each one more different than the last thus making it hard to make sure ics runs amazingly great on one platform and then starting the next. despite having older hardware and crappy features (IMO) the iphone isnt still around because its a social thing, there is actually some benefits.
P.S. i would like to state that i am a former iphone 3g owner, and i will never go back to that crap, if android collapses ill go wp7 before ios again
No thanks. I like seeing my phone screen in the day time
Im sold if the bootloader is unlocked and it comes in black.
HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?
Would you be upset since you just purchased the M8?
Bla.. Sell this one buy the new one. Should companies stop making phone and adhere to some useless timelines like make a phone every year or 2 years etc. There is a new snapdragon 805 coming, new phones with QHD displays coming out soon. It will be foolish of HTC or any other company to wait till next year to release a phone with the new soc, screens etc.
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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 805 is going to be insane that's for sure. But if the rumors are true about the screen being 5.5 inch, I definitely don't want one. I'm drawing the line at a 5 inch screen, and I'm going to pray to every god I can think of that they don't decide to make the standard any bigger lol.
Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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I'll wait and see what it's got before I pull the trigger , but if it's got the same looks and size with an updated camera I'll be buying it
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omg you said that spot on!
When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet. I think their is a fine line to what you can hold sensibly like a phone. Even if you have huge mitts.
I have large hands and this is my limit, size wise for a daily driver. Being able to fit in my pocket etc.
But second devices are always good
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When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet.
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People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
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Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
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People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave
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Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears
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Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears
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I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
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Dave
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I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
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Ok.... It's give me a clue time.
I was born before the Beatles came to fame.
Quite a few years before Armstrong stood on the moon....
Our house phone looked like this
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and our neighbours used to come in and sit and watch with us...
Technology spent years trying to 'downsize' their products and now all of a sudden it wants big and brash again. Incidentally, are we heading back to here? (My first mobile)
I have no problems with the bigger products. Like I said, it's just when people hold them to their ears.
Incidentally you young whippersnapper...who wins the age argument
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P.S. Sorry for being Off topic OP - but it is kind of relevant
I dont think HTC will start selling a device just like their flagship but more powerful. They will aim an other market, and the 5.5 Inch rumor makes sense. I personally own the M8 and for my personal preferences thats the maximum size for a phone. There are people which are ok with their One MAX or Note 3. I just think this device will not be out to compete with the One M8
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This is my philosophy as well.
There are only a few circumstances where waiting pays off.
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I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
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Good point. Actually, at those days we used to make a call with the phone in our hands. Today I have a bt-headset and a pebble, which let me keep my phone in the pocket unless I need to google or read mails. Then, of course, size matters!
BTW, my jeans pockets are the same size than those of 1994, so what?
We will soon see that even Apple steps away from their masters voice, which claimed "nobody needs a phone bigger that an iPhone".
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Couldn't have said ti better myself. Ther'es always something newer and better on the horizon. Either go bankrupt buying them all or just be happy with what you got until you're ready to upgrade.
If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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wait, you get fast when you are on crack? damn! i do the opposite.
you must be special. :good:
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If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth
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the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth
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Yeah, I underclocked and undervolted my CPU, constantly uses power saving mode, and my M8 still handles all the multitasking and games flawlessly.
The thing is, smartphones are significantly over-powered nowadays. In terms of usage, the jump from S801 to S805 or anything faster would be far less necessary in at least a year.
The prime would probably just have better specs. No point in it since I end up underclocking my CPU to 1.8GHz and only using 3 cores lol. Still don't see any lag.
Just wondering if anyone is thinking of jumping to one of these other phones. I think the G6 is a nice looking phone,. I have tried Samsung so many times since my S3 (last Samsung I actually liked) so as beautiful as of a device they put out, I simply can not get over the lag and stuttering of their phones. Tried the N7 a couple times and just couldn't choose that over my then 6P.
Project Fi is a sensible choice for a low data user. I'm staying with the POS Pixel XL for the time being. It's only a responsible choice.
I dont plan to jump to either of those but I might jump ship to the New Htc ocean due out probably in the next month or two. Htc devices have pretty much close to pure android and Htc devices usually have the largest dev following which means the most custom roms and mods and you can run the Viper rom most likely which team Venom is known for having the roms out that have the most mods available of any custom rom out.
Not a chance neither Samsung or LG have a good software or update policy. Sticking with Google devices from now on, shouldn't of picked up an LG G4, worst 12 months ever.
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I was thinking about getting a g6 but my fears were confirmed about the speaker being weak when the reviews started coming out. Weak speakers seem to be the norm with water proof phones.
Other than where it's placed, I'm very happy with the sound from my pixel's speaker. Having a good and loud speaker is much more important to me over waterproofing.
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the s8 speaker is just as loud as the pixel.
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I was thinking about getting a g6 but my fears were confirmed about the speaker being weak when the reviews started coming out. Weak speakers seem to be the norm with water proof phones.
Other than where it's placed, I'm very happy with the sound from my pixel's speaker. Having a good and loud speaker is much more important to me over waterproofing.
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Actually I beg to differ, I have the 7plus and the speakers are awesome for a waterproof phone. Unfortunately I hate the phone even though it's a work phone.
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Actually I beg to differ, I have the 7plus and the speakers are awesome for a waterproof phone. Unfortunately I hate the phone even though it's a work phone.
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I've since gotten the s8 and the speaker is loud but lacks depth. The pixel XL speaker is much better than the s8's but the s8 is a better phone than the pixel in my eyes so it stays for now.
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I've since gotten the s8 and the speaker is loud but lacks depth. The pixel XL speaker is much better than the s8's but the s8 is a better phone than the pixel in my eyes so it stays for now.
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What do you like better about the S8?
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What do you like better about the S8?
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A lot, mainly storage and feel in hand. The s8 is a great phone and so is the pixel. My main issues with the pixel XL were cost/value and storage. For $850 the pixel is overpriced esp at 32gb storage. If the phone would have had 64gb it would have been a keeper. I regret buying the pixel, it was a letdown. Keep in mind my previous phone before that was a 64gb 6P that I got new for $400. That phone still had a lot of life left in it and could have carried me through to the pixel 2 which I most likely would have gotten if I didn't feel the need to get out of the pixel asap. I never was a Samsung fan but this phone is pretty good.
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I'm staying with the Pixel until a phone with a better camera comes out
I have both the G6 and the GS8. I have the G6 on AT&T, the S8 on T-mobile and the Pixel XL on Verizon. I like all 3 however the Pixel XL and the GS8 are by far the better of the 3. The G6 has abysmal battery life compared to the other 2, a decidedly worse camera and believe it or not, has more bloat than the GS8. The G6 is decent otherwise. Certainly an improvement over the G4 and 5. In terms of the GS8, I love the feel and look of it, the screen is awesome. (God forbid I drop it though ). It gets great battery life, on par with the XL, take great photos, on par with the XL. Lets you dark theme if you create a Samsung account ( eh hem google) and I am using the Paid Nova launcher configured to look like the Pixel launcher and have it themed dark.. And coupled with T-mobiles much improved and now blazing fast network, I actually for the first time in my life am enjoying a Samsung device. The XL still has better battery life, better camera and the smoothest fast interface despite being older and with an older SOC.. But I will say this, the GS8 is def not your Samsung of old.... They are def improving.
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My battery life with 2 watches syncing all day. This is way better than my pixel XL. This is the regular s8.http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/590fbc45cf004/Screenshot_20170507-192233.png?
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If I could sell my 128gb black XL unlocked bootloader VZW variant for 750 I would jump to the s8plus
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A lot, mainly storage and feel in hand. The s8 is a great phone and so is the pixel. My main issues with the pixel XL were cost/value and storage. For $850 the pixel is overpriced esp at 32gb storage. If the phone would have had 64gb it would have been a keeper. I regret buying the pixel, it was a letdown. Keep in mind my previous phone before that was a 64gb 6P that I got new for $400. That phone still had a lot of life left in it and could have carried me through to the pixel 2 which I most likely would have gotten if I didn't feel the need to get out of the pixel asap. I never was a Samsung fan but this phone is pretty good.
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Right on. I've played with the S8+ a few times and really like it. I had the S7 edge prior to getting the Pixel XL and loved it. I like the direction Samsung is going. Their hardware and design are class leading, many of their software additions are useful and the GUI is aesthetically pleasing, in addition I feel like theyre really paying attention to what customers want. If the Pixel had just been another Nexus I probably would've kept my S7E, but I was very interested to use "the first Google phone." I like the Pixel a lot and the camera is really second to none. I'll probably hang onto it until the fall then upgrade to either the Note8 or Pixel 2 XL.
I'm jumping ship from my t mobile LG G6 to a Verizon phone. I really like the G6 except it cant be rooted, nice battery, runs smooth. just all around nice to handle..... If anyone knows which verizon phones that can be rooted I would appreciate your input.
https://plus.google.com/+FranciscoFranco1990/posts/a9dQJebRnZ1
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Actually I beg to differ, I have the 7plus and the speakers are awesome for a waterproof phone. Unfortunately I hate the phone even though it's a work phone.
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https://plus.google.com/+FranciscoFranco1990/posts/a9dQJebRnZ1
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To read that from Franko is HUGE. That carriers a lot of weight.
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To read that from Franko is HUGE. That carriers a lot of weight.
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Eh, I thought it was interesting but I feel this way. You need to be true to your dollar and what makes you happy.
I see it as a sign of the times that Samsung has been moving in the right direction when it comes to the UX, as have a lot of other OEMs. Not ignoring how locked down they are but the folks that care about that are a tiny minority.
This is also important to cut through the hive mind of "Samsung bad and Google can never do anything wrong".
So many guys griping about Touch"insert expletive here" but the last time they owned Samsung was the s2.
Folks attack them for trying to be like apple but ultimately it's not entirely about being original, it's about seeing what works and improving that, giving share holders the most bang for their buck.
Believe it or not we all benefit from the gimmicks/innovation of OEMs.
But hey like I said I don't care who likes what phone in the grand scheme of things it comes down to what works and what can you afford.
It's just good to see someone giving an honest opinion in our Android echo chamber.
I am in a bit of a dilemma. I am going to get a new phone, and I really like the Pixel XL. However, I read today that the Pixel XL 2 will be coming out in 2017. What is your opinion? Should I wait? Should I sell my phone once I see the Pixel XL 2 coming out? Should I keep the Pixel XL for the next two years? Thanks for your opinions!
If you can wait few months then Pixel 2 XL.
But keep in mind that the phone will be announced around October and won't be available until November/December or maybe even later.
Buy a Pixel XL (if you can get one) and buy the 2 when it comes around (if your finances allow) and sell the original XL.
About 9 months is a long to wait. Juat get the Pixel XL now and the Pixel XL 2 @yrs end.
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I am in a bit of a dilemma. I am going to get a new phone, and I really like the Pixel XL. However, I read today that the Pixel XL 2 will be coming out in 2017. What is your opinion? Should I wait? Should I sell my phone once I see the Pixel XL 2 coming out? Should I keep the Pixel XL for the next two years? Thanks for your opinions!
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This is one of the most ridiculous questions I've seen in a while. Who knows your finances? What Pixel 2?
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XRayKiller said:
I am in a bit of a dilemma. I am going to get a new phone, and I really like the Pixel XL. However, I read today that the Pixel XL 2 will be coming out in 2017. What is your opinion? Should I wait? Should I sell my phone once I see the Pixel XL 2 coming out? Should I keep the Pixel XL for the next two years? Thanks for your opinions!
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Snapdragon 835 phones are just around the corner. Wait for those. Besides, Pixel XL is an extremely simplistic phone. In terms of hardware, it doesn't do much at all. Its software is pretty good but still very buggy. Aesthetically, it's hideous. To be honest I hate it - only keeping it for Project FI.
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Snapdragon 835 phones are just around the corner. Wait for those. Besides, Pixel XL is an extremely simplistic phone. In terms of hardware, it doesn't do much at all. Its software is pretty good but still very buggy. Aesthetically, it's hideous. To be honest I hate it - only keeping it for Project FI.
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There's currently an 8 month long queue on the XL 2 so I'd recommend getting an XL - selling - get an XL2.
Also thought I read somewhere they have another phone in the works besides the pixel2. My pixel xl os isn't buggy at all. More stable than my v20. Its a good phone simplistic phone and if you can wait then do it but remember google is becoming like apple and making limited numbers on release date to drive up demand and hype.
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But for real, since I financed with google I have that card that works only for the Google store. My pixel XL is almost payed off, and as soon as the pixel 2 drops I'm grabbing it.
In regards to the comment above mine..........
For a phone that cost me over $800, I am pissed at the amount of bugs it has. Randomly my nav bar doesn't respond in landscape orientation, when YouTube is playing in the background my volume buttons don't work ( and I have to go-to settings to change the volume), camera gets stuck on "processing hdr image" all the time, music randomly pauses while working or relaxing, Pandora/iHeartRadio/play music all randomly close in the middle of two tracks, etc etc.
These issues have persisted across multiple factory resets, multiple factory image flashes, and custom ROMs.
I would rma it, but google wants to place a $800 hold on my card to do so, and since I never have more than $400 on my card this isn't possible, eliminating any chance I have at RMA.
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Snapdragon 835 phones are just around the corner. Wait for those. Besides, Pixel XL is an extremely simplistic phone. In terms of hardware, it doesn't do much at all. Its software is pretty good but still very buggy. Aesthetically, it's hideous. To be honest I hate it - only keeping it for Project FI.
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In terms of hardware it doesn't do much? Maybe you have a bugged phone like me, but a bit worse. Me and a friend switched pixel XL's for a day so I could see if he had similar problem. His phone was literally flawless.
Hardware wise, this phone is a masterpiece?! An 821 with google sauce for some battery saving, an adreno 530, and 4gb of ram? What phone are you comparing it to, to reach the assumption that "it's not much at all"? Software is far from buggy as long as your on a factory image with no modification. I love the way it looks, I love the chin because it reminds me of my HTC days, I love the glass/metal transition and subtle lines.
And you say your only keeping it for fi? Why not get a Nexus 5, or 6, or 5x, or 6p?
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Snapdragon 835 phones are just around the corner. Wait for those. Besides, Pixel XL is an extremely simplistic phone. In terms of hardware, it doesn't do much at all. Its software is pretty good but still very buggy. Aesthetically, it's hideous. To be honest I hate it - only keeping it for Project FI.
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I've owned a lot of phones, iPhones, many various android phones and tablets. Pixel XL is hands down my favorite thus far. I've seen hardware defects on various forums, but my device isn't affected by any of them. It's the typical bribary of competing companies blowing up the .01% defects as much as humanly possible to create a negative vibe, it happens to all manufactures. However this phone is snappy, the assistant is great, and I actually really, really like the design. Got mine in white with a nice velvet red hexagonal case, looks very snazzy. The thing about bezels... if you don't have them where does your thumb/holding fingers go on a bezeless screen that requires two hands to hold? I'll tell you. On top of the screen. To me this seems like.. awful. Just keep some bezels so I have somewhere to put my hands without accidentally touching stuff. Sound quality is great. Software bugs...? I don't know of any. Electric blue accents? Gorgeous. A lot of little details went into this, the animation when you long press home, the blue tints, the swipes, the app opening. It's very responsive, very smooth natural interface, very intuitive. It's a great phone, 0 regrets buying it.
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In terms of hardware it doesn't do much? Maybe you have a bugged phone like me, but a bit worse. Me and a friend switched pixel XL's for a day so I could see if he had similar problem. His phone was literally flawless.
Hardware wise, this phone is a masterpiece?! An 821 with google sauce for some battery saving, an adreno 530, and 4gb of ram? What phone are you comparing it to, to reach the assumption that "it's not much at all"? Software is far from buggy as long as your on a factory image with no modification. I love the way it looks, I love the chin because it reminds me of my HTC days, I love the glass/metal transition and subtle lines.
And you say your only keeping it for fi? Why not get a Nexus 5, or 6, or 5x, or 6p?
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No waterproofing, no wiresless charging, no iris/face scanner, no stylus, no always on display, no sdcard slot, no HDR display, no pay system that works everywhere (MST), huge bezels, very thick, fugly.
Here's a picture to illustrate the point:
You sound more like a Samsung user. I think the pixel is great for users who like modifying the system, and who like a pure vanilla feel to the system.
I just got the XL like 2 weeks ago just wait for the Pixel 2 this phone isn't worth near the amount they are charging
What if Pixel 2 is a mid-range or budget phone...
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You sound more like a Samsung user. I think the pixel is great for users who like modifying the system, and who like a pure vanilla feel to the system.
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Not a user, a typical fanboy. Anyone who has used Samsung phones know for a FACT that how laggy they become over time. I basically never thought I would there anything else other than Note series. But no, Samsung doesn't know how to optimise TouchWiz. They have had their time, they ain't going anywhere. Also the Note 7 is more a jewellery-look alike, a slippery fingerprint magnet, with an incredibly impractical glass design, I don't know how people can even hold them phones, disgusting. In any case, I have heard this big bezel thing so many times for Pixel! What about them Sony phones! Or HTCs! If you need fancy looking nonsense then go for them Chinese Ximi Mix phones or whatever, robust built is what a phone should have, not a looks to impress people around you, that's why attention whore people like the kinds of S7, Note 7 etc.
Even if you forget the design completely, it's beyond hilarious to compare a Pixel or a Nexus device even, with any TW Samsung. I guess after the brilliant Note 7 drama some kids had to ditch their Samsung and buy the next best flagship available, so they bought the Pixel, but now they see it's not bringing them the attention they had hoped for, so they get pissed off. They never knew anything about hardware or software at first place. But people like me, who have used almost all the S and Note phones of Samsung, wouldn't even dare to go back to them, it's a scary experience.
How could this thread not deteriorate into this? The title says it all. Do I buy a phantom device or spend money I might not have? But deteriorate it did and will continue to go down the rabbit hole.
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How much did you guys pay for your pixel?
I paid a bunch.
Here's the rundown; then, the conclusion -
Shipping Status Quantity Item Price
Estimated delivery date: Dec 5, 2016 – Dec 7, 2016 1 Pixel XL (128 GB, Very Silver) $869.00
1 Project Fi SIM $0.00
Processing (1-2 business days) + Delivery Standard (3-5 business days): $0.00
Tax: $60.83
Total: $929.83
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I got ripped off. You did too. The markup on hardware must be as high Apple's. They probably make these phones for $400, then sell them for $900.
Not I. I paid $240 over a 24 month period for the 32gb Pixel. Delivery November 28th. A bargain at twice the price.
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bobby janow said:
Not I. I paid $240 over a 24 month period for the 32gb Pixel. Delivery November 28th. A bargain at twice the price.
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You paid $240 for a Pixel?
You sure?
It's got the stupid Apple unibrow! D: Hopefully it is what they were working on and scrapped.
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It's got the stupid Apple unibrow! D: Hopefully it is what they were working on and scrapped.
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I'll never buy that.
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I'll never buy that.
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I agree. Looks totally retarded kn the iPhone X and it looks just as retarded on that ohone also.
Whoever thought that was an ok feature of a phone must be a moron.
A LOT of major Android devices will get the notch this year. If you remember, Google added support for the notch recently.
So manufacturers sre going to do it.
If OnePlus 6T has it, I guess I'm getting a notch too.
Remember, Android had it first.
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Notch, unibrow, or whatever you want to call it. When it creeps in on the screen, I will pretty much always pass on it. I think Xiaomi's Mi Mix 2s would be the only exception. It isn't so much of a notch though. The front-facing camera module is in the top corner, which takes a slight little bit out of the corner. Still not acceptable but as close to acceptable as I would settle for.
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A LOT of major Android devices will get the notch this year. If you remember, Google added support for the notch recently.
So manufacturers sre going to do it.
If OnePlus 6T has it, I guess I'm getting a notch too.
Remember, Android had it first.
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But one article said some Chinese budget OEMs were not only doing the notch to copy Apple, but making it BIGGER than "necessary" (it's never necessary) as actually style statement. Argghhhhhh.
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brossovitch said:
A LOT of major Android devices will get the notch this year. If you remember, Google added support for the notch recently.
So manufacturers sre going to do it.
If OnePlus 6T has it, I guess I'm getting a notch too.
Remember, Android had it first.
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I hated it on the Essential also.
And I already hate OnePlus for being a "pretender" -- not a real premium phone -- so there's another reason to not like them.
You should have been expecting the clones to come out. iPhone X was a huge disappointment for sales. Apple is discontinuing it in June and reduced their order which made Samsung hold the bag on millions of glass. Samsung is not going to throw them away but they were already shopping around for buyers at a reduced rate. Why not spend the same amount of money on a good piece of glass. And just deal with the notch as a designer. When you are selling a mid-tier phone having a nice glass is a bonus. And honestly LG is a mid-tier company that puts out high-end devices.
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You should have been expecting the clones to come out. iPhone X was a huge disappointment for sales. Apple is discontinuing it in June and reduced their order which made Samsung hold the bag on millions of glass. Samsung is not going to throw them away but they were already shopping around for buyers at a reduced rate. Why not spend the same amount of money on a good piece of glass. And just deal with the notch as a designer. When you are selling a mid-tier phone having a nice glass is a bonus. And honestly LG is a mid-tier company that puts out high-end devices.
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I did find this:
https://9to5google.com/2018/02/28/lg-g7-neo-mwc-leak-specs-display-notch/
The display measures in at 6-inches with a resolution of 3120 x 1440. As Android Police points out, that’s a 19.5:9 aspect ratio, different from the G6 and V30 which both have 18:9 aspect ratios. The closest comparison would the Essential Phone’s 19:10 aspect ratio.
In short, it’s slightly taller, and that actually makes room for a notch which has been added to the display (because of course).
Interestingly, LG hides the notch in software, creating its own version of the notification bar that is somewhat reminiscent of the second-screen on the LG V20.
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So, the "notch" will be in area not really being used. It won't impact videos, etc. That space will be used for notification bar.
The REAL part of the display is still 18:9.
That doesn't make me like the notch, but it's not just putting a notch to put a notch.
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That doesn't make me like the notch, but it's not just putting a notch to put a notch.
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Be interesting to see it next to the iPhone X. To me that sounds like they adapted their software to work with the notch having bought lots of glass on the cheap. Which I have to say was a pretty good way of doing it. I don't got time to research actual size dimensions today
I don't think anyone would put a notch to put a notch. Apple did it because their sheep won't say anything negative about the design. Just how awesome the feature is. At least LG was smarter and used space better
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Be interesting to see it next to the iPhone X. To me that sounds like they adapted their software to work with the notch having bought lots of glass on the cheap. Which I have to say was a pretty good way of doing it. I don't got time to research actual size dimensions today
I don't think anyone would put a notch to put a notch. Apple did it because their sheep won't say anything negative about the design. Just how awesome the feature is. At least LG was smarter and used space better
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Apple put a notch there just to put a notch there. LG didn't do that on V30 and Samsung has not on S8, S8+, Note 8, S9, S9+ -- in spite of having the minimal bezels. Apple's notch serves no real purpose and interferes with apps. Whereas on the G7 (I can't believe I'm defending this), the "notch" portion is really a "2nd notification screen" like the V20 had.
The LG V30 Is As Underrated As The iPhone X Is Overrated
that (iPhone X) notch that takes a chunk out of the screen when viewing videos; there are plenty of important apps still not optimized around the notch (like Gmail) and they look terrible
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Essential's notch cut the expected QHD 1440p to 1325p, so Essential ALSO put a notch there just to put a notch there. It's not necessary.
Some of the Chinese budget phones have put a notch there just to put a notch there. An article just a few days ago said many made the notch much bigger than "necessary", to put a huge gap there on purpose as a form of stylistic exaggeration.
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Oukitel U18.
One even is running GINGERBREAD, in 2018. Many have the notch, but are cutting their clock off in the upper right.
They don't care.
The Clone Wars: iPhone X copycats battle for notch supremacy
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/28/17062030/iphone-x-clones-android-mwc-2018
That’s right: the notch is now a selling point. Kane’s supposed phone, the Leagoo S9 Pro, is just one of a tide of iPhone X clones that have swept through Mobile World Congress this week, often from little-known Chinese manufacturers competing to get products out as fast as possible. Oukitel. Doogee. Blackview. UleFone. OtOt. Ila. The list goes on — and it’s starting to include names more familiar to Western audiences. Asus’ new Zenfone 5 takes obvious notch inspiration from Apple’s latest phone, while leaks suggest that Huawei’s next flagship will follow a similar path.
The simple truth is that these notches don’t need to exist. They’re a stylistic choice, and the latest example of Apple design decisions being co-opted by much of the tech industry at large.
These Android phones, on the other hand, are often making the notch much bigger than it needs to be. They don’t contain advanced face-scanning tech — usually just a selfie camera, a speaker, and an ambient light sensor. The decision to go with prominent notches is one that simply would not have been taken were it not for the iPhone X.
Not everyone will follow, of course. Samsung, for example, has enough marketing clout of its own that copying Apple would do more harm than good at this point. This week’s Galaxy S9 launch event saw the company hail the new phone’s “uninterrupted display,” with a marketing executive cracking “as always, you know, there’s no notch.”
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Wanna know what I think makes it especially dumb on Android? We use the damn notification bar. Even on the smallest DPI I can do with stock AT&T V30 ROM, my icons frequently take up most of the notification bar (**** you very much, AT&T, for the forced tramp stamp as well). I know if I were to get the AT&T version of the G7 I would literally have no room for notifications.
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You should have been expecting the clones to come out. iPhone X was a huge disappointment for sales. Apple is discontinuing it in June and reduced their order which made Samsung hold the bag on millions of glass.
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Apple is "discontinuing" -- on paper only -- the original iPhone X to release "improved" version (same size) iPhone X, as well as a larger size iPhone X Plus.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...ne-x-buy-sales-specs-new-iphone-release-date/
*the outgoing iPhone X will be replaced by a total of three new iPhone X-inspired designs:
a second generation 5.8-inch iPhone X,
6.5-inch iPhone X Plus and
a “$650-750” 6.1-inch iPhone SE replacement which will be fitted with Face ID.
Apple hopes it will be the latter two that once again excite the Chinese market.
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Part of Apple's problem with the iPhone X is the size. The 5.8" iPhone X with minimal bezels is "too small" for the Chinese market. They love BIG phones for some reason. So, Apple is releasing iPhone X Plus and a 6.1" cheaper phone. The "revised" iPhone X will remain the same size. (LG V30 has bigger OLED display than the iPhone X.)
But the REAL reason Apple is OFFICIALLY discontinuing the model is for future profits. The 2017 models --- iPhone X, iPhone 8 and 8 Plus -- would normally be the DISCOUNTED 2nd year phones they would continue selling when the 2018 phones are released. Who knows if Apple will continue to do that? But if Apple does, they want to make sure the 2017 iPhone X is NOT on the discount list. Whether there's a discounted 2017 iPhone 8 or 8 Plus, after the 2018 models are released -- I don't know and don't care -- but there will NOT be a "2017 iPhone X". Yet there STILL will be iPhone X being sold.
Apple isn't really discontinuing the iPhone X, they are just re-releasing it. They are merely re-classifying it as a "NEW, improved" iPhone X.
It won't change names -- it won't be iPhone XI -- it will STILL be the iPhone X. Apple will still be selling it. Don't be fooled.
Like all the years of "new, improved" Tide detergent commercials?
Woman: "I don't use Tide anymore."
(Gasps all around).
"I use NEW, IMPROVED Tide!"
(Hint: she's still using Tide detergent.)
Same way Mark Zuckerberg didn't "give away" all his Facebook stock to "charity". Remember that ridiculous PR story? It just was a tax dodge. He STILL controls all that Facebook stock via his Zuckerberg "foundation" -- he can still do anything he wants with it, he didn't give away anything. It was merely a way to reclassify all his holdings as a "charity" -- a charity where he can still give as much money to himself as he wants, but the government can't tax it as personal wealth.
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It's also funny about the notch on the iPhone X. For 2019, Apple is trying to REDUCE it, minimize it.
industry insiders have revealed Apple is working with LG Innotek to Significantly reduce the size of the so-called "notch" on the (2019) iPhone X. ET News states this will be done by combining the front-facing camera with Face ID, allowing the notch to be cut away (minimized).
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Concept of what LG is trying to help Apple do for the 2019 iPhone X
So, they are working with one of LG's companies to reduce the notch!
truckerdewd said:
I agree. Looks totally retarded kn the iPhone X and it looks just as retarded on that ohone also.
Whoever thought that was an ok feature of a phone must be a moron.
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Can you believe Asus copied the unibrow, and bragged that it was smaller than the iPhone X's? How dumb can you get, someone could just say they have 100% smaller notch by not having one at all!
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Can you believe Asus copied the unibrow, and bragged that it was smaller than the iPhone X's? How dumb can you get, someone could just say they have 100% smaller notch by not having one at all!
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Exactly
That type of design makes the screen useless to my needs. So any design that incorporates a notch is automatically discarded as a viable option. It was a design fail on the iPhone X, and its going to be a design fail on any other platform as well.
Having said that, Samsung does need to get rid of that surplus of screens that they are stuck with from the iPhone Xs.
While I think the notch is ugly, on the iPhone there really was no way to actually hide it. At least with Android they'll have the option of keeping it black, so the notch will blend in. I also hope that they will allow just the battery percentage if not all icons fit due to the notch.
As for if I will buy it? Well... Probably not. I think I'd be more likely to get a higher spec device with the same body as the V30.
As time goes by, I can see me liking new devices less. The move towards no headphone jack, no fingerprint sensor, the notch, etc makes me feel like I'm getting old. I'm not liking all these moves companies call "Innovative".
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