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possibility? And feedback} W as it
rescue if something went wrong?
So i bought a Note 3 and as I do with all my devices i want to root it, but i am hearing some news things like Knox and alternate root methods.
I have some questions.
1. With knox i understand it voids your warranty if you root, but doesnt rooting always void your warranty regardless?
2. Followup question, if i root and the knox flag is tripped, will it affect me on t mobile 6 months from now when i want to upgrade since i have JUMP?
3. Is the rom flashing and recovery flashing the same as always or has anything important changed?
4. Would you recommend I root now or just hold off?
Thank you in advance.
thehobs94 said:
So i bought a Note 3 and as I do with all my devices i want to root it, but i am hearing some news things like Knox and alternate root methods.
I have some questions.
1. With knox i understand it voids your warranty if you root, but doesnt rooting always void your warranty regardless?
2. Followup question, if i root and the knox flag is tripped, will it affect me on t mobile 6 months from now when i want to upgrade since i have JUMP?
3. Is the rom flashing and recovery flashing the same as always or has anything important changed?
4. Would you recommend I root now or just hold off?
Thank you in advance.
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I can answer number one for you, since yes it does void it no matter what but each flash you do adds to a counter in the phone. Most phones you can just reset it to zero and I believe most roms do flip it back to zero, so they can't see it was rooted. Now with knox efuse the number goes 0x0 to 0x1 and right now you can't reset it and it sounds like you may not be able to ever. I do remember seeing a way to root and not flip it but the moment you do a custom rom it's all over.
With the jump program I don't even think they will look at the phone past does it turn on and is it beat to hell or not, I think the jump program is stupid but that is just me. It's like renting to me. But in short yeah samsung is a ****.
I needed to bring my GT N7100 (intern. version) back to complete stock.
It was rooted, had a custom recovery and (deknoxed) custom rom and thus several binary counts.
For start i put back stock recovery and ran Triangle Away. After that my smarter part thought...well....why not upgrade to latest official firmware.
So i downloaded N7100XXUEMK9_N7100PHNEMK2_PHN form sammobile and flashed happily through Odin.....
Just after that i realised my binary count must have been stuck on 1 cuz of the custom rom i had.
Now i'm stuck with a rather weird set up in download mode:
Custom Binary Download: Yes (1 counts)
Current Binary: Samsung official
System Status: Official
KNOX Warranty void: 0
In order to reset my binary count back to 0 i have to reroot and rerun Triangle Away, but afaik most rooting ways will trip Knox, so in that case it has no use.
I wanna give this root method a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
cuz in the thread i found 1 or 2 posts that confirmed root without tripping Knox on the international GT N7100 on MK9 bootloader
So my question is....will Triangle Away itself trip knox?
I've been searching the forums for a few days now, but just can't find the answer.
Any help would be much appreciated!
Triangle away won't but rooting definitely will.
Where you able to fix the issue? I have a similar problem.
Nirak said:
I needed to bring my GT N7100 (intern. version) back to complete stock.
It was rooted, had a custom recovery and (deknoxed) custom rom and thus several binary counts.
For start i put back stock recovery and ran Triangle Away. After that my smarter part thought...well....why not upgrade to latest official firmware.
So i downloaded N7100XXUEMK9_N7100PHNEMK2_PHN form sammobile and flashed happily through Odin.....
Just after that i realised my binary count must have been stuck on 1 cuz of the custom rom i had.
Now i'm stuck with a rather weird set up in download mode:
Custom Binary Download: Yes (1 counts)
Current Binary: Samsung official
System Status: Official
KNOX Warranty void: 0
In order to reset my binary count back to 0 i have to reroot and rerun Triangle Away, but afaik most rooting ways will trip Knox, so in that case it has no use.
I wanna give this root method a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
cuz in the thread i found 1 or 2 posts that confirmed root without tripping Knox on the international GT N7100 on MK9 bootloader
So my question is....will Triangle Away itself trip knox?
I've been searching the forums for a few days now, but just can't find the answer.
Any help would be much appreciated!
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dalanik said:
Triangle away won't but rooting definitely will.
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Hi, thanks for replying! Are you sure about that? I am in the same situation as the OP, I did a search and I think it is possible to root without tripping KNOX by following this guide:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/root-galax...-4-3-bypassing-knox-warranty-void-bit-1432252
After reading the xda thread linked in that post it does seem like this may be a successful method on the N7100, however, I can't find any concrete evidence that Triangle Away will be successful on a KNOX enabled device and will not trip the KNOX counter.
UPDATE:
So I just rooted my note ii using the method outlined in the xda thread (which is linked in the link I posted above), and it did not trip the KNOX flag. I then downloaded Triangle Away and granted it root access, it failed to reboot. I am not sure why, it did not work though.
My current status is:
AP: N7100XXUEMK9
CP: N7100XXUEMJ9
CSC: N7100BTUEMK2
Custom Binary Download: Yes (2 counts)
Current Binary: Samsung Official
System Status: Custom
KNOX Warranty Void: 0
AP SWAEV: A2
Update
Used Triangle Away v3.01, it cleared my Custom Binary Download, but it DID trip the Knox Warranty Void to 1. So to confirm, root = no trip, Triangle Away current version will not reboot, Triangle Away older version = trip KNOX.
Rooting as i mentioned in OP worked like a charm, but when i installed Triangle Away 3.25 it didn't work, so i installed an older version of it, 3.10.
This one worked en fully resetted my binary counter, unfortunately this indeed tripped KNOX:crying:
Maybe i made the mistake of using an older version of TA, i didn't read enough before i decided to do that, or maybe it's just how TA works, regardless of which version.
Anyhow....i've now joined the official Knox 0x1 club, while everything else is flagged 'official'.
I can hook up the phone to Kies, no problem, OTA works, device gets registered and says the newest software is already installed.
Nirak said:
Rooting as i mentioned in OP worked like a charm, but when i installed Triangle Away 3.25 it didn't work, so i installed an older version of it, 3.10.
This one worked en fully resetted my binary counter, unfortunately this indeed tripped KNOX:crying:
Maybe i made the mistake of using an older version of TA, i didn't read enough before i decided to do that, or maybe it's just how TA works, regardless of which version.
Anyhow....i've now joined the official Knox 0x1 club, while everything else is flagged 'official'.
I can hook up the phone to Kies, no problem, OTA works, device gets registered and says the newest software is already installed.
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Iam on the same situation guys, except i havent tripped knox yet.
My flash counter is custom while everything else is official and knox is 0x0, the only diference is that my device is a i9505 s4 but it works the same for this.
So there is no way for me to get my warranty back since my flash counter is custom even the knox is untripped?
Thanks
alundra212 said:
Iam on the same situation guys, except i havent tripped knox yet.
My flash counter is custom while everything else is official and knox is 0x0, the only diference is that my device is a i9505 s4 but it works the same for this.
So there is no way for me to get my warranty back since my flash counter is custom even the knox is untripped?
Thanks
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Nope, no change as for now. TA (any version) will trip your KNOX for sure; You could try reading up on the 'reset KNOX counter' for your S4, i read somewhere that for Exynos chipset it can be done (not easy!), for Snapdragon there's no possibility and i really doubt it will come ever.
triangle away will trip knox flag because need a custom kernel to reset download binary.
flashing a custom kernel is what trigger knox!
If u wanna unroot u cant use an 4.1 rom to use triangle away to reset to 0 and upgrade after to 4.3 ?
Correct me if I wrong but if I root n7505 Knox counter will tick. I also heard that if you first flash firmware which has built in root and removed Knox then Knox count stays 0 is that so? Then what rom can be flashed through Odin? If I want to flash firmware with root and no knox what are my steps?
I found video showing root process with root genius and saying that knox stays on 0 in this process. Did anyone actually tried it and can confirm?
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i really dont want to trip my knox counter... any solutions?..mine is n750.
Have the same issue. That video clearly states that knox stays untouched, but I simply cannot test, I must be sure. The video is up for 7 months now and no negative feedback is given. I can't believe that no one tested it.
Knock Knock
Hello,
I was just wondering if it was possible to trick the Samsung Pay App to received a 0 from the Knox Trip counter after rooting your phone so it would still allow the user to use it.
Do you think this is possible?
Regards
I have never found one. There is some research being done about using Magisk as part of kernel, but not done yet.
Hello,
I was thinking that if we removed Knox from the phone, Samsung Pay would receive a knox counter of 0x0 because it didn't exist. What do you think?
Regards
SamsungGaIaxy said:
Hello,
I was thinking that if we removed Knox from the phone, Samsung Pay would receive a knox counter of 0x0 because it didn't exist. What do you think?
Regards
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No. But feel free to try and post your results.