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non-wet screen protectors

I know there a couple of threads for screen protectors, but I'm a static/non-wet screen protector type of guy.
for guys like me, we know that powersupport usa is pretty much the best quality protector to have. unfortunately those bastards only cater to iSheep.
so my question is:
can anyone recommend a screen protector (that is out currently) that:
1. does not have rainbow effect
2. sticks to the phone all the way to the edge of the protector. (i hate that 1mm "lift" all around the phone.
any and all recs welcome for those who already own the GNEX.

Seconded. SGP has been the best I've used so far but I've heard that the fit on their oleophobic protector was pretty off.

I have had great success with SGP products, my only concern is the exposed lip all around the G-Nex with the screen protector on. It doesn't fit close enough edge to edge. Most likely due to the curved glass but still its enough of a gap to concern me.

RaptorMD said:
I have had great success with SGP products, my only concern is the exposed lip all around the G-Nex with the screen protector on. It doesn't fit close enough edge to edge. Most likely due to the curved glass but still its enough of a gap to concern me.
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but does the edge stay down? no lifting???
how much of a gap is there?
i guess the SGP coupled with a case would be okay..... :-/
my normal preference is non-wet screen protector with an invishield type body protection (bit more grip without compromising the dimensions of the phone).
for the wet body application, most of the companies don't show the pieces. the ONLY company i saw that showed how the body is covered is http://www.clear-coat.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-screen-protector-case-skin-cover-shield.html i haven't used them before though.

How do the non wets actually work?

Its just a clinging type.
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Tempered glass recommendation? (not XGear please)

Hey guys, I'm having trouble finding any brand left that sell tempered glass for this phone.
The only one I found is XGear, base on the image I am certain that the designed is by having the adhesive stickers on the bezel/edges only, while the viewable area isn't adhesive. I have used tempered glass of similar design before and it is terrible. Since the adhesive stickers are thin on the edges, its not very durable and can leave gaps or pop out (especially since this is a curved screen), and let water in. It will also cause "rainbow effects" due to the gap between the two glasses. There are Amazon reviews that reflected my concern.
I'm looking for something like this which have the entire surface being clear and able to stick.
Doesn't seem like there are any available, but I wouldn't mind using tempered glass for another phone model that could fit on the Nexus screen, I think that's the best way to go. But I won't receive my Nexus in a few days, then I can see if the screen protector of the Moto X fit inside the Galaxy Nexus screen.

Bought a Nillkin Tempered GLass for my Note 3. Guess what.....after a month, the screen cracked by itself! I'm very sure it was not caused by wrong handling nor impact. All this 9H hype by Nillkin is just bull! Choose another brand!

Well I just decided to order a second i-Blason for the Moto X and put it on the Nexus. Kind of awkward, but it work. Couldn't fully stick because of the curved glass though, but the adhesive is durable enough so I'm not worried.

eksasol said:
Well I just decided to order a second i-Blason for the Moto X and put it on the Nexus. Kind of awkward, but it work. Couldn't fully stick because of the curved glass though, but the adhesive is durable enough so I'm not worried.
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Was gonna buy the xgear thanks for the insight!
Galaxy Nexus
ROM: SlimKat 4.4.2

funny how purchases get based on "user" reviews. i read all 12, and the bad reviews remind of typical users that don't read directions, don't follow directions and then think if they pitch a fit with the manf and bad mouth the product they'll be redeemed of their stupidity.
dust under the screen or lifts at the curve?
1. poor cleaning prior to affixing
2. repeated removing and reapplying and failing 1.
it cracks? really? it's glass, treat it as such and pay attention to 1 & 2 above.
install tip: align and start from one end. it's not a bumper sticker, do not apply it as such.
dots and rainbow? if turned off and angled just right you can see it. turn it on and they're gone. the rainbow kind of reminded of how some windshields look while wearing polarized sunglasses.
i mostly lurk these forums but couldn't let this go. i've had my xgear tempered glass protector on for 2yrs without issue. i will buy more from them if available and my device doesn't have gorilla glass.
well worth the $30+ i spent at the time, has saved my phone too many times to count.

I'm also looking for a tempered glass that is different from Xgear...

I just installed an xGear Fantom (and just replaced my broken screen), I don't see any rainbow effect. I did notice that the protector at the sides sat flat against the screen, but were it curved it bowed out in the center. Looked clear, but definitely was not flush against the glass. I put a thick sock on the screen and some weight over top of it (a thick heavy hard cover book and a medium sized socket set), and that eliminated the bow and put a massive rainbow bubble into the middle of the screen. I lifted the top right corner of the protector slightly and the bubble moved straight out on it's on. It now sits 100% flat. I don't notice any loss of touch sensibility. As far as I can tell, this is going to work well, and last a loooong time.
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xGear Fantom is expensive to me and it has bad critics. I'm trying to find another alternative although it is to another model of mobile with the similar screen's sizes 135.5 x 67.94 mm and the holes fit well. The Moto X's screen seem too small.

I think only xGear makes a tempered glass protector for the G'nex. Might be able to use one for another model, but I don't think it would work any better and you would have a higher chance of running into poor fitment.
But I do understand what your saying - some G'nex have a sensitivity bug that the xGear exaggerates (I'm lucky I don't), while some people have had problems with the glue giving out as well as sensitivity issues not related to the bug.
I'd think you could run into those issues with any brand of glass screen protectors, and further might run into other issues with fitment if the protector is for a different phone.
I can't say if I'll have adhesion issues (and so far nope - but only been barely a week or so since installing it), though I think I would have both if I had not noticed and taken care to eliminate the slight bulge out where the glass curved.
Mine did lay flat at the sides along the protectors boarder, and while it was clear for viewing the screen (as in it didn't look like I had air trapped under the protector), it was clearly bulged out (due to an air pocket) a few mm in the center of the screen where it naturally curves when viewed from the side - I was able to correct that with the weight and slight lifting of a corner.
Sadly, you may want to run your naked (no protector) or with a PET film protector.
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BTW - I only paid something like $11 (Canadian) for my Fantom, and that includes shipping. I don't think it was a huge expense at all.
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I think it's not necessary to use any kind of screen protection.
I have my GNex more than 2 years without using screen protector and it doesn't have any scratches

I bought a tempered glass protector ( Moto X) to my Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Unfortunately I did not find any that fit perfectly but it work rigth to me.... it was very cheap in aliexpress, only 1,60€ :good:

Question about screen protector and squeeze feature?

So here is my question. I’m looking at the invisible sheild glass screen protector but am wondering, what will happen with the protector when I squeeze my pixel for assistant? Will I lift or crack? What do you guys think?

I seriously doubt they will be sending the glass screen. Should be fine.

What do you mean sending the glass screen? I’m buying a glass screen protector. The pixel 2XL is Poled made of plastic so you can squeeze. So I’m wondering about the glass protector

Have you checked the Accessories thread here

That doesn’t answer my question. Hence why I asked it. That’s basically just listing what accessories are available

That's actually a good question- I hadn't really thought about it. Hopefully there won't be any issue with the screen protectors. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Maybe a good place to ask...

dberthia said:
That's actually a good question- I hadn't really thought about it. Hopefully there won't be any issue with the screen protectors. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Exactly! That’s my point! I don’t want to spend 50+ dollars then that crap pops off

galaxys said:
Maybe a good place to ask...
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Huh?

You are squeezing the sides of the phone and not actually compacting the screen, so there should be no issue.
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jimistixx said:
You are squeezing the sides of the phone and not actually compacting the screen, so there should be no issue.
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Understood but is that not why google went POLED so as not to have glass to deal with the pressure

Zagg is saying we should be fine and the warranty for return is 30 days from website kiosks depends on them

Yet Google made the screen of plastic not glass?

AndreaCristiano said:
Yet Google made the screen of plastic not glass?
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the only way to really know is to wait for someone to test it
BUT
this is the first time i heard that screen is plastic
what i know that it is gorilla glass 5 from their website and from other websites
https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_2_xl-8720.php
(DISPLAY Type P-OLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 6.0 inches, 92.6 cm2 (~76.4% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1440 x 2880 pixels, 18:9 ratio (~538 ppi density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 5
- Always-on display
- 100% DCI-P3 coverage)

It’s POLED the P = plastic

http://www.androidauthority.com/poled-vs-amoled-792869/amp/

i know that the inside where made of plastic
but the touchscreen in the outside are made of glass (the digitizer)
so glass on top of a plastic (they get thinner panel this way )
OH right the HTC U11 have lcd glass screen in the first place
maybe you can ask in there form if anyone have a problem in the squeeze with glass and screen protector

Someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you actually squeeze the body of the phone, meaning, the sides don't actually compress. What you're doing by squeezing the phone is really squeezing your fingertips (and the base of your palm area), so that your skin makes contact with more of the extreme edges of the screen. It's very slight, but enough to activate the sensitive touch areas there. When the phone sees a whole bunch of "touch" along the sides of the screen, it sees that as a squeeze. So, you don't have to worry about a case cracking under the pressure. However, if this really is how it works, then any case with screen-overlap may interfere with activation of squeeze command. Ditto with screen protectors.
As for the P in P-OLED. That refers to the substrate, which is the base to which all of the electronic bits are connected. Plastic allows this substrate to be thinner and more flexible. The outer surface may be, and often is, still made of glass (in this case, Gorilla Glass 5). P-OLED isn't typically used to make the body of the phone more damage resistant (although it certainly can be). It's used to make the screen a tiny bit lighter and thinner, allowing more room for other internal pieces (such as a slightly larger battery).

jt3 said:
Someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you actually squeeze the body of the phone, meaning, the sides don't actually compress. What you're doing by squeezing the phone is really squeezing your fingertips (and the base of your palm area), so that your skin makes contact with more of the extreme edges of the screen. It's very slight, but enough to activate the sensitive touch areas there. When the phone sees a whole bunch of "touch" along the sides of the screen, it sees that as a squeeze. So, you don't have to worry about a case cracking under the pressure. However, if this really is how it works, then any case with screen-overlap may interfere with activation of squeeze command. Ditto with screen protectors.
As for the P in P-OLED. That refers to the substrate, which is the base to which all of the electronic bits are connected. Plastic allows this substrate to be thinner and more flexible. The outer surface may be, and often is, still made of glass (in this case, Gorilla Glass 5). P-OLED isn't typically used to make the body of the phone more damage resistant (although it certainly can be). It's used to make the screen a tiny bit lighter and thinner, allowing more room for other internal pieces (such as a slightly larger battery).
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Sorry I have to correct you here. The squeeze gesture is picked up by 2 rows of sensors inside the edges of the frame. It has nothing to do with the screen.
Jerryrigeverything did a teardown on the HTC u11 which uses the same tech. So, that section of the frame edge is actually mobile to a degree. It also compromised rigidity and failed his bend test.

Why do you need a screen protector? I have not made a scratch a phone screen since prior to my nexus 4. The screen are pretty much scratch proof unless you use sand paper to do it.

P20 lite glass screenprotector

Hello,
Already anybody with a good fitting glass screenprotector?
I have tried 2, but they don't fit good at the edges.
Mark

internetuser2004 said:
Hello,
Already anybody with a good fitting glass screenprotector?
I have tried 2, but they don't fit good at the edges.
Mark
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I've seen many people with the same problem as yours, that is why I haven't got a screen protector.
I have some under watch in eBay, but I'm waiting on feedback before purchasing

I bought those "liquid/nano Screenprotectors" coz they fit every screen.
I dont know if they are good but my screen is still like new.

Ultimate Shield are now doing glass protectors for a range of Honor and Huawei devices, including the P20 Lite. They are priced to be a bit more premium, but I have used them in the past and been quite happy with them. This was before the trend of curving the edges of phone screens though. These are full sized protectors with a coloured border, but the glue is full coverage rather than just at the edges. I have just fitted one to my son's new P20 Lite. As it has just been fitted I am unable to comment on durability yet. However the fit seems pretty good. As mentioned, it covers the front of the device fully from edge to edge both horizontally and vertically. The hole for the speaker and camera lines up perfectly, but it does look like the black borders encroach a little onto the actual display area at the sides. I don't think this would be enough to impede usage of the phone on a daily basis. It is just noticeable as it disrupts the flow of the rounded corners. The edges are nicely rounded and are not a harsh edge, unlike the cheap protector that I currently have on my Honor View 10 (I have bought an Ultimate Shield for this too, just haven't fitted it yet). I did manage to get one tiny bit of dust under the protector which has caused a small bubble, but this is under the display in the chin area so no real issue and not a fault with the screen protector. There was another bubble at the top left of the display, but keeping pressure on this meant it eventually disappeared. At the edge in the same area I noticed a small sized air pocked just creeping out along the black border, almost as if it was a tiny area with the infamous halo. This isn't noticeable with the screen on and I hope it will go over time. Overall I am quite happy with how it fits and looks. The only real negative is that the supposed oleophobic coating doesn't seem to be doing a great job. But, tbh, I don't think I have ever found a screen protector where it has worked as I expected. Are my expectations just not realistic? Or do we have particularly oily finger tips? Nothing a frequent wipe on a t-shirt won't sort out though.
Would certainly recommend if you are fed up of these screen protectors that are much too small and give you a halo round the edges.
https://www.ultimateshield.co.uk/collections/huawei-p20-lite/products/huawei-p20-lite-tempered-glass-screen-protector
They also do full body coverage wet apply protectors (invisible shield style) if you like that kind of thing.

I got one when i bought the phone and it did not fit good at the edges, but i found a youtube clip called "Removing Halo Effect from Tempered Glass (Olive Oil)" and it worked for me. its been 3 months since then and all is good.

TOCOL Screen Protectors for Note 10 -- very pleasantly surprised

to share my very pleasant surprise.
TOCOL plastic screen protector for Note 10, TOCOL [3 Pack] for Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Screen Protector
I have been using almost exclusively glass protector up to now, but tired of the problem with curved screen. TOCOL really worked out.
The quality is very good. the right among of rigidity that feels solid when touching or using stylus, but also gives a bit of yielding and friction as if writing on paper. It holds up very well too, after a month, there has not been a single visible scratch. The adhesion is excellent without any delamination on edge. even once that I accidentally peeling it off when popping phone out of case, was able fully press protector back on without problem.
It also has a new (at least to me) a great idea of how it is applied... you get to see the description/video. by having a leading rigid edge to "sweep" the screen as it is applied, you won't have problem of small dust remaining on screen or misalignment anymore. quite brilliant.
and it is cheap...

How's the fingerprint

and how bad is the orange peel effect?

I've used Screen Knight protectors on all of my recent phones. Search on eBay costs around £4-5 depending on model.
It conforms perfectly to the curved screen, and is applied using water so you get a perfect screen with no chance of it being squint or getting debris underneath.
Fingerprint and screen sensitivity are unaffected. You wouldn't know it was on the phone.
My last one lasted 2 years and was literally unmarked.
Easy to remove to sell phone. Highly recommended for a phone with curved screen.

Prof Peach said:
I've used Screen Knight protectors on all of my recent phones. Search on eBay costs around £4-5 depending on model.
It conforms perfectly to the curved screen, and is applied using water so you get a perfect screen with no chance of it being squint or getting debris underneath.
Fingerprint and screen sensitivity are unaffected. You wouldn't know it was on the phone.
My last one lasted 2 years and was literally unmarked.
Easy to remove to sell phone. Highly recommended for a phone with curved screen.
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Did the spen lead marks