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Transferring Files Via Card Reader?

Caveat: I am unfamiliar with the ideosyncracies of Windows Mobile in this area...
As the Universal only has a limited amount of storage space, I have been storing pretty much everything on a 4Gb SD card. What I'm wondering is, when it comes to large video files, it takes roughly 1000 years to transfer across using the ActiveSync pipe. Will it bollux anything up if I simply take the SD card out of the slot and copy the video file over into the appropriate directory, or does WM need to do some weird-ass magic when it does a transfer via ActiveSync?
Thanks,
Doug

dougom said:
Caveat: I am unfamiliar with the ideosyncracies of Windows Mobile in this area...
As the Universal only has a limited amount of storage space, I have been storing pretty much everything on a 4Gb SD card. What I'm wondering is, when it comes to large video files, it takes roughly 1000 years to transfer across using the ActiveSync pipe. Will it bollux anything up if I simply take the SD card out of the slot and copy the video file over into the appropriate directory, or does WM need to do some weird-ass magic when it does a transfer via ActiveSync?
Thanks,
Doug
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I have never had a problem with this. It is the only way to move large files across. Give a try.

It will work. My only recommendation is that you create a separate folder called "movies" to keep your sd card tidy. Or that may just be my OCD talking!

lulugirl896 said:
It will work. My only recommendation is that you create a separate folder called "movies" to keep your sd card tidy. Or that may just be my OCD talking!
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nah, you're right, i just didn't let my OCD talk for me

mavrik64 said:
nah, you're right, i just didn't let my OCD talk for me
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Thanks, all.
And hey, you want OCD behavior, take a look at my follow-up post on the TCPMP thread. That's OCD, baby!
Doug

Suggest that you install the free wm5storage application on your PDA then you can transfer files between your PDA & PC without using Activesync, its a lot quicker.
You should find a link on this site.
Mike

Mikew said:
Suggest that you install the free wm5storage application on your PDA then you can transfer files between your PDA & PC without using Activesync, its a lot quicker.
You should find a link on this site.
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Will do. Thanks, Mike.
See; that's what's driving me crazy about Window Mobile vs. Palm. While there were a number of applications on PalmOS that were nice to have, it pretty much comes out of the box with everything that I needed. With WM, I am having to install a whole buncha apps just to get things running the way it seems they should ("You need to install Pocket Hack Master, and Magic Button, and WM5Storage, and . . ."). I have been spending the last couple of weeks installing and tweaking. It makes me nuts.
Doug

dougom said:
Will do. Thanks, Mike.
See; that's what's driving me crazy about Window Mobile vs. Palm. While there were a number of applications on PalmOS that were nice to have, it pretty much comes out of the box with everything that I needed. With WM, I am having to install a whole buncha apps just to get things running the way it seems they should ("You need to install Pocket Hack Master, and Magic Button, and WM5Storage, and . . ."). I have been spending the last couple of weeks installing and tweaking. It makes me nuts.
Doug
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Dats M$ WM5

i use an SD to PCMCIA convertor on one of my laptops for 100's MB files, it's much faster than activesync/USB. for some reason though, on one of my PC's with a '5in1 USB adapter' it doesn't recognize the SD card filesystem (i never formatted them out of the box).

another thing, be careful when using the usb sync too much. i fouled up my battery because i used wm5torage heavily.. but im wiser now, i'll be getting an sd card with a usb adapter..

MicroSD Wear Leveling?

Do microsd cards have wear leveling circuitry in them? they're so small and i can't find any documentation which talks about only the microsd cards.
I only found documentation where all the features of flash media was bundled together

This is an old post, but i wonder exactly the same.
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Do microsd cards have wear leveling circuitry in them? they're so small and i can't find any documentation which talks about only the microsd cards.
I only found documentation where all the features of flash media was bundled together
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I just found this info here:
http // answerpot. com/ showthread.php?251530-MicroSD+card+%2F+NAND+wear+leveling+algorithm
Hi,
On a prototype device which we plan to mass produce for customer deployment, we are facing failures for the microSD card, using authentic SanDisk microSD cards. We ran through a couple of permutations of card manufacturers are it is related to the file allocation table.
I am using ext3 on the microSD card partition to run android.
Although MicroSD cards have built in wear leveling, it seems that many of them rely on a file allocation table to balance wear, such as the ones used by FAT. ext3 is a journaling filesystem; as such, it lacks a file allocation table, and adds a journal, which is a very high data turnover disk area. It seems that the sd card wear leveling tends to be crude, and may not be smart enough to move the physical location of the journal, which means that it is likely to fail quickly.
So, is there a solution to this issue, when using MicroSD cards with android?
Does the Micron POP memory device have some sort of built-in hardware wear leveling algorithm? Or is it in software and is the algorithms in the linux kernel sufficient to take NAND wear leveling into account?
Best regards,
Elvis Dowson
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If this info is correct, apparently microsd indeed has wear laveling, but it won't work at all with ext3, or i guess any other filesytem without a file allocation table.
So, any of you using ext3 partitions will have a less lifespan memory card.

i wonder it also..

Is this still true in ext4?

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this is the 4th time that recently bought authentic ( h2testw tested) 64 GB and 128 GB micro SD cards got corrupted.
I am totally bewildered and this has been the most frustrating ordeal for me. I am using these on my mobile running Nougat 7.0 . in all cases I use the microSD card formatted into two partitions ext4 for or app2SD (or link2sd depending on what you use) linked data & other exFAT partition which is my main data partition. I can broadly divide my card into three areas based on usages
mostly RO
here I store all my I useful personal data - movies family pictures and stuff. this area is mostly read only.
moderate RW
pictures and movies coming from my camera
High RW
this is the binded WhatsApp folder I did not use the word link because this is not a symbolic link in that sense -the target is a different file system folder.viz exFAT so it is a bind that connects a F2FS partition folder to exFAT and I use app2SD folder mount feature to get this done
now the problem -depending on my luck from 2 months to 8 months in using these cards there is data corruption.I will not be able to write in WhatsApp image directory- that is the symptom that got me looking into this. I ran a chkdsk. with /r /x options & finally error out giving me the message that it ran out of free blocks.
now now what are my options
<> if I recover as much data as possible and reformat the partition, would that it take care of of the problem and how to avoid this in the future
<>toss the card in the trash bin and buy another new card and think of a different partitioning strategy that will be prevent this
<>now coming to the most important question . what would prevent this situation from happening how about if
<<>> I change the partition type and use FAT32 or ext4 - would that changed the outcome anyway
<<>> I will create totally 4 ext4 partitions including 1 for app2SD and other three for mostly RO, moderate RW and hi RW . how would this pan out in context of wear leveling. A F A I K wear leveling is oblivious of existence of partitions and it would still move around blocks to balance out or will it respect partition boundaries this is for not SSD but micro SD card ?
<> I Wonder if there exists some kind of a virusware that deliberately eats away into file bytes and corrupts them - I use malwarebytes to scan but so far nothing has shown up.
<> is it possible at the level of firmware to disable wear leveling.

Need Help. How do I get to the Internal Storage area

OK, I got my Sprint TP2 yesterday and was playing around with it. I installed my SD card that had some files on it and when I tapped on one document file by mistake it "unzipped" it to the internal storage completely filling it.
I've looked all over but cannot seem to locate the internal storage memeory on the phone.
HELP!
Thanks in Advance.

OK, never mind. But.....
OK, after I opened it back up today I started looking at it like my old PDA and found the file and deleted it.
But..
I'd like to free up more internal memory as it shows I only have 158MB free. And only 59MB free for program memory. I'll be getting a 16GB card soon to replace my 2GB I have but I'd like to have more internal memory.
What programs/files can I delete safely from my Sprint TP2 to free up more space?

JohnMcD348 said:
I'd like to free up more internal memory as it shows I only have 158MB free. And only 59MB free for program memory. I'll be getting a 16GB card soon to replace my 2GB I have but I'd like to have more internal memory.
What programs/files can I delete safely from my Sprint TP2 to free up more space?
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158MB of "Storage" memory is actually quite a bit -- it's 60% open/empty. Considering that a lot of applications are less than a 1 MB, and a huge one is 5MB -- you still have room to install dozens directly to the device. To minimize use of Storage, install as many apps as possible to your card. And, wherever possible, configure settings on apps to store their data to the card...and set the camera to save to the card, etc. Even a 2GB card is a lot of space -- unless you're carrying full-length, high-quality movies.
Program memory gets filled up by stuff that's currently running, so deleting installed programs won't free up more of that -- unless these programs run automatically/all-the-time.

MCbrian said:
158MB of "Storage" memory is actually quite a bit -- it's 60% open/empty. Considering that a lot of applications are less than a 1 MB, and a huge one is 5MB -- you still have room to install dozens directly to the device. To minimize use of Storage, install as many apps as possible to your card. And, wherever possible, configure settings on apps to store their data to the card...and set the camera to save to the card, etc. Even a 2GB card is a lot of space -- unless you're carrying full-length, high-quality movies.
Program memory gets filled up by stuff that's currently running, so deleting installed programs won't free up more of that -- unless these programs run automatically/all-the-time.
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Yeah, if you have 158MB storage free on the phone right now, be sure to take a screenshot if it so you can look back later and remember "back when" you had still had that much free space
MCBrian is right, moving stuff to your memory card is the best way to free up space on the phone's memory and keep it from filling up unneccesarily. Like he said, first change the camera settings to always save to the card, otherwise that will always eat into your available on-board storage, and quickly. I would also suggest going into the current album of pics on the phone, deleting anything you don't want to save, and move whatever you do want to save into a "pics" folder on your card (HTC's photo album can include pics saved there as well). Same for music...store any and all of it on the card, not the phone's memory. The one caveat with that is that the HTC music player (the music tab in touchflo) doesn't always find music on the card, not for me anyway, but I never liked that player anyway.
Managing my memory that way has given me enough space that even with dozens of programs on the phone, all of them installed to the phone's memory, I still have 95MB free space for programs on there. In fact, I still have a fair amount of junk (stuff I tried but don't use, etc) in there that I need to go clear out. Installing some of your programs to the memory card can help too, but if you're careful you can keep enough storage memory on there available to be able to avoid ever needing to do that (and the hassle that comes with trying to figure out which programs are ok with being installed on the card, as well as managing/maintaining separate install locations).
If you're going to start using file explorer to dig around in your directories, I highly recommend you first install File Explorer Extension. It simply adds a lot of the stock destop file explorer functionality that's missing in the mobile version ("open with>" in the context menu, for example!)...makes a HUGE difference in ease of use when digging through your file structure. I attachted it below, "fexploreext v2.05.CAB"
For keeping your RAM ("running" memory) from growing too fast, I also suggest running the other 2 cabs I have attached below (SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab and nopushinternet.cab), they make a big difference in the active memory management on the TP2, you'll probably see a noticable difference right after soft-reset.

Thanks for those CABs. I'm pretty good at managing the storage on things like this, I just couldn' find the files/folder on the newer phone using the options available in WinMo6+. I've been using an Axim for years runnign WinMo5 and earlier versions. Storage cards are pretty easy for me as I'm use to running stuff between the Main/CF/SD cards that I had on the Axim. I just have alot to learn about the newer 6.1 OS. Probably, by the time I get used to 6.1, Sprint will come out with 6.5(6,7,whatever) and I'll get to relearn everything all over again.
If there are any other programs you'd recommend to help me out I'd greatly appreciate it.

JohnMcD348 said:
Thanks for those CABs. I'm pretty good at managing the storage on things like this, I just couldn' find the files/folder on the newer phone using the options available in WinMo6+. I've been using an Axim for years runnign WinMo5 and earlier versions. Storage cards are pretty easy for me as I'm use to running stuff between the Main/CF/SD cards that I had on the Axim. I just have alot to learn about the newer 6.1 OS. Probably, by the time I get used to 6.1, Sprint will come out with 6.5(6,7,whatever) and I'll get to relearn everything all over again.
If there are any other programs you'd recommend to help me out I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Well the file structure is obviously still pretty much the same windows-standard, just some locations moved around. The bad news is that none of the programs installed by default in the stock rom are removable through the normal remove programs dialog, or any 3rd-party app I've seen. However you can just go perform the same steps manually by deleting any folders matching the program/publisher's name in these locations:
<root>/program files
<root>/application data
<root>/windows/start menu
...and then searching in the registry to delete any keys in there for the program as well. You'll need a registry editor to do that, I've attached my favorite free one, PHM Regedit...just search your registry by the name of the program you're removing. If you're not familiar with messing around in the registry, there's guides available here, let me know if you need me to point you in that direction. And, as always, be SURE to make a backup copy of your registry (PHM can handle that for you) before making any changes.
Here's a couple of other utilites I've found useful:
Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab -Gives you acccess to all sorts of advanced UI and system configuration options, a favorite and often-referenced tool here at xda.
Extra Camera Modes.cab -unlocks some capture modes that the TP2 camera is capable of, but aren't enabled from the factory on US models. New modes include MMS video, Burst, Sport, and geotagged images
SDK certs.cab -windows authentification certifcates necessary for installing many hacks/apps/cabs/etc that are available here
DivXPlayer_PPC.cab -a lean, mean .avi player from the people who came up with DivX (the codec standard, not the movie rental crap lol). I rip my DVD's at home to ~700MB DivX files, save them on my memory card, and use this app to play them...it gives far better performance and quality than any of the other players I've tried.

Very Much appreciated.
Now, I seem to have another probelm and I don't know if it's my unfamiliarirty with the newer Sync Center or am I just doing something wrong, or if it's an issue with the programs I've got.
I'm new to both Win7 and WinMo6+(and touch flo, etc). Up to now I had XP(w/ ActiveSync) and my WinMo5 Axim.
I can't seem to get my programs installed onto my TP2. I use a prgram for work called Tarascon. It's a medical reference program. I tried to install it yesterday and I never got the repsonse on the TP2 to request permission to install it. Today, I tried to install SOTI's Pocket Controller and this time I did get the request and I installed it to the device but I can't find it anywhere on it. It didn't install an Icon on the device and I've looked through every place I could think and can't even find an installation file for it. I didn't get an install error or failure notice and my memory size dcreased 2MB so something happened.

Glad to help
Since I don't really know anything about the medical reference software you're using, my first suggestion would be to check with the publisher and make sure that the version you have is compatible with Win7 and WM6.x...often software that worked on WM5 won't work just right on 6.
As for SOTI Pocket Controller, the latest version available on the site should be compatible with your setup. When you install it, are you doing that by running a .exe file on your PC and then letting Mobile Device Center (the new generation of ActiveSync) handle the install from there? It might be advisable to just moving the .cab file for the program straight to your phone (device memory or storage card is fine), and run it from there to install...bypasses the MDC, and ends up doing the same thing in the long run. In fact, it might be worth trying the same thing (running the .cab straight from your phone) with the medial software you've got.

It might just be that I'm using Ver4 and it doesn't want to run right with the newer install setup(MDC).
It worked fine when I installed it on my Axim(WinMo5) and using WinXP(ActiveSync).
Another odd thing, every time I plug in my TP2 and MDC starts to Sync, I get the request from Win7 for the Tarascon program to initialize. So that tells me something, somewhere set a pointer to my TP2 to update the program. I think.

Is it possible to encrypt a microsd card?

I've asked this in various forums, since security is the #1 issue for me. I know there are already alot of apps to protect the phones and its contents....BUT is there anything stopping a thief from simply taking out the sdcard and putting it in another phone or reader to view and access the contents of the sdcard?
If you plan on storing personal info on the card, whether it'd be photos/files etc It would be really good to know that even if the sdcard is taken they still cannot access the info.
anything out there as yet? I would've thought this is a pretty common request.
something like trycrypt or storage crypt for the microsd card would be really good.
any help would be much appreciated.
thank you

I'd like to know this too.
(sorry to dig up an old thread but it's better than starting a duplicate one IMO)

To date, I haven't seen full SD card encryption software like we had on WM with Android. File and content encryption, yes (like BioWallet Signature or MyStash).
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SD card prioritized..?

Hi, I have looked in the past for an answer but does our phone (att model) have the ability to use SD card as primary storage, especially for games? I hoping just overlooked something. Although some apps do merge internal & external for storage calculations, that's the best I get..
Seems pointless to even have a branch of this nice feature if I still have to uninstall stuff to make space..
Thanks in advance!