Now that people have been able to use VPN workarounds to get the February and March updates on pretty much every different phone out there, have there been any failures? I haven't seen any reports of the process not completing or bricked phones from the latest wave. Not even with Samsung hardware. If that's the case, it seems like Microsoft finally has a handle on the update process and they should be able to accelerate the current schedule and push out future updates more aggressively. That would be a very good thing for the platform.
Hello all,
today I updated to Lillipop and everythings works fine expect bluetooth. I listen music with my Sony MTR-10RBT and G3 but ofter occur frequently short interrupts while listing music. That sucks!
I made a whipe allready but nothing helped.
It´s a known porblem?? Or have someone a solution for that? Thanks.
hmmm this was a known problem for people who switched to ART while in Kitkat. Since Lollipop uses ART, this probably is the issue. I would have thought they'd fix this before an official update though.
LG Support Fix
I've have this problem and it's highly irritating since I use my bluetooth headphones for almost 3 hours every day. I've spoken to LG support and they have suggested the only fix is to roll back to kitkat, also if I send it in for "repair", it will take 14-21 days (might have said 14 days). They also "enticed" me with the fact that 5.0.1 for the G3 will fix the problem but I'm not sure that I even described the problem in sufficient detail before lollipop was firmly blamed as the problem.
I did mention that I don't have this problem with a Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Galaxy S5 all on lollipop 5.0.0 and I proceeded to get a lecture about how those phones are probably on 5.0.1 and that's why they work, they are not, but found it surprising at how LG dodged the fact that they hadn't a clue how to fix the problem. I feel like I've been let down by LG who seem uninterested, or non committed to fixing the problem and a support function that doesn't consider their user needs or how they customers use their products. Let's face it practically, how many people can go for 14-21 days without their phone for the sake of flashing a different OS
I knew I never should have moved away from my nexus 4 which was absolutely perfect in every way, thank goodness I didn't have to contact LG for any problems for that. I hope LG realise that as of now I just won't buy any of their products because of really poor customer service and unreasonable fix times that are outside the expectations of any user given the simple nature of the fix. As mentioned above, this problem existed on the LG G3 before lollipop and they couldn't be bothered to fix it then or even warn people not to upgrade because they hadn't fixed it. I'm just glad that I haven't had my new LG telly delivered because of the christmas rush, it's now been cancelled and I'll buy something else.
Rant over....
This happened with me on Lollipop as well, I never got the OTA until after Xmas, still not a sniff of Marshmallow. May be it is just me, but in theory you think owning a Nexus device means you get updates sooner but for me anyway the reality is by the time you get the OTA other manufacturers already have it out. My S5 got Lollipop before my Nexus 7 2013.
Anyone else have this issue?
I wish I knew the answer to your question. A co-worker got LP with in days of release and my tablet didn't see the update come down until 5.1 was out. Then oddly enough I saw MM with in three days of release and the small update that came after it the day it was posted.
I'm sure Google has some weird plan that only makes sense to them on when and what get the updates but it sure isn't any forum of logic I can understand. I think part of is they push the update to some devices and wait to see the telemetric data come back for a few days to see if there is any major bugs before pushing it out to "everyone." It's not like Google doesn't have the resources to just pump the update out for all to get at once like iOS does.
Hi guys & gals,
I have a stock, unrooted, bootloader locked LG Nexus 5X, which can't find the OTA update to Android Nougat.
I wanted to give it some time, because I thought maybe the 5X updates came later, but it's been quite a few days already and I've read that most people have received their OTA updates already.
Do you have any idea what the problem could be? I check my system of updates a couple of times per day, but nothing, it keeps telling me it's up-to-date.
Could it be possible that the update will not come for weeks after the release?
Thanks!
I gave up waiting just enrolled in beta updated N then un enrolled from beta all good
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Instead of enrolling in beta, I flashed with factory image after cleaning it i.e. factory reset.
So far, it's buttery smooth.
I hate waiting for OTA. I hope Google will change it to something smoother like getting it immediately as Apple is doing for years. Apple provides OTA updates almost instantly to millions on devices. How many Nexus devices are there...?
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. The whole promise that Nexus devices would get the first updates went out of the window pretty fast.
My wife's got a Android One, which was upgraded to Android 7 over a week ago.
Well, I'll think about whether I'll upgrade manually or not. I don't like backing up without Titanium.
jordylicht said:
Hi guys & gals,
I have a stock, unrooted, bootloader locked LG Nexus 5X, which can't find the OTA update to Android Nougat.
I wanted to give it some time, because I thought maybe the 5X updates came later, but it's been quite a few days already and I've read that most people have received their OTA updates already.
Do you have any idea what the problem could be? I check my system of updates a couple of times per day, but nothing, it keeps telling me it's up-to-date.
Could it be possible that the update will not come for weeks after the release?
Thanks!
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there is absolutely no problem apart from this being a nuisance for the imaptient. checking for updates more than once a day (which the system does automatically) does absolutely nothing to your position in the rollout-queue and since google sticks to their staged rollout policy, it is indeed not unlikely for a nexus to not officially receive an OTA until two or three weeks have past (unsure about the specifics).
shufal said:
I hate waiting for OTA. I hope Google will change it to something smoother like getting it immediately as Apple is doing for years. Apple provides OTA updates almost instantly to millions on devices. How many Nexus devices are there...?
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sure, impatiently waiting for an update to reach one can be nerve wrecking. staged rollouts as google is practicing them are, besides other reasons, to ensure critical bugs that may have slipped through don't mess with every unit out there at once. it's not like google wouldn't have the bandwidth to provide the updates to every nexus at the same time.
you should also consider, that apple has not only full control over the hardware of their limited lineup of devices, but also is the only one working on their code, which is quite different to the way android is handled.
jordylicht said:
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. The whole promise that Nexus devices would get the first updates went out of the window pretty fast.
My wife's got a Android One, which was upgraded to Android 7 over a week ago.
Well, I'll think about whether I'll upgrade manually or not. I don't like backing up without Titanium.
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the update is out since the day N was officially released, no promise broken. it's simply not your turn yet to receive it automatically. android one devices, in terms of updates, work exactly like nexus devices afaik, so nothing to worry about when one gets the OTA earlier than a nexus. fortunately google made it quite simple this time to skip the line by enrolling in the beta program for a few minutes.
Broken303 said:
there is absolutely no problem apart from this being a nuisance for the imaptient. checking for updates more than once a day (which the system does automatically) does absolutely nothing to your position in the rollout-queue and since google sticks to their staged rollout policy, it is indeed not unlikely for a nexus to not officially receive an OTA until two or three weeks have past (unsure about the specifics).
sure, impatiently waiting for an update to reach one can be nerve wrecking. staged rollouts as google is practicing them are, besides other reasons, to ensure critical bugs that may have slipped through don't mess with every unit out there at once. it's not like google wouldn't have the bandwidth to provide the updates to every nexus at the same time.
you should also consider, that apple has not only full control over the hardware of their limited lineup of devices, but also is the only one working on their code, which is quite different to the way android is handled.
the update is out since the day N was officially released, no promise broken. it's simply not your turn yet to receive it automatically. android one devices, in terms of updates, work exactly like nexus devices afaik, so nothing to worry about when one gets the OTA earlier than a nexus. fortunately google made it quite simple this time to skip the line by enrolling in the beta program for a few minutes.
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Who else work on 'Stock Android' besides Google? Samsung? LG? You are bull****ting when you say 'which is quite different to the way android is handled' when we are talking about Google releasing OTA for its own 'Nexus'.
By the way, I am tired of hearing Google ensuring critical bugs may slip through OTA but in reality that never happened. And even if OTA brings any bug, Google always fix it in the next schedule which sometimes took 6< months..
I love Nexus (already hating the branding of Pixel) and I will complain whatever I think Google has the ability to fix.
shufal said:
I hate waiting for OTA. I hope Google will change it to something smoother like getting it immediately as Apple is doing for years. Apple provides OTA updates almost instantly to millions on devices. How many Nexus devices are there...?
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Those who want it immediately have a path to get it immediately. There was some friction over needing to unlock bootloader to get it immediately in the past because of the factory images, but now with the full (rather than differential) OTAs they provide, you no longer need to have unlocked bootloader.
So your complaint now boils down not to Google providing it immediately but how convenient their "immediate" format is.
IMO most people who want it immediately can be satisfied with the full OTA or factory image. A very small number of people that want it immediately won't be able to use one of those 2 methods and will just wait their turn.
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jordylicht said:
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. The whole promise that Nexus devices would get the first updates went out of the window pretty fast.
My wife's got a Android One, which was upgraded to Android 7 over a week ago.
Well, I'll think about whether I'll upgrade manually or not. I don't like backing up without Titanium.
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Your Nexus 5x was among the first to have Android N available. You could have manually downloaded the full OTA or factory image if you wanted.
The "backup" complaint you have is a red-herring. You don't need to back up if you use the manual methods. The FULL (vs differential) OTA doesn't erase data and the factory image can be made not to erase data by removing one flag from the batch file. Now you might want to backup before the update installs, just to be safe, but that holds even for the differential OTA you get over the air, so it has nothing to do with manually downloading an update.
The scheduling of your automatic download is a separate issue. Nexus has always randomly scheduled downloads. It can take up to 3-4 weeks for everyone to see the update.
I'm sure you will agree that there is a big difference between having Android N available but not being scheduled to download it yet vs other platforms which may not make Android N available at all or won't have it available to download for *anybody* months after it was released.
Google is saying your phone will have the software available, not that their scheduler will have your phone download the update immediately upon availability. They however give you a method to download it immediately if you want to.
Do scheduled OTA update happen on weekends and holidays?
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Do scheduled OTA update happen on weekends and holidays?
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Yes, algorithm does some undefined random selection process. It doesn't care about weekends or holidays and there is no human involved that might care.
I hope this is the best place to ask this question since it's largely concerned with "upgrading".
Earlier this year I'd had enough of my Apple iPhone and its endless buggy updates which the phone would railroad you into installing and had no way to disable that. I elected to go for an Android phone. After spending a while looking I went for a Samsung Galaxy S8 which came with Android 7 and was literally flawless, the first such phone I'd had since iOS 8.6. Hurrah
However the phone has a major fault confirmed by the manufacturer. One key thing I checked was that I wouldn't be in the same position as with Apple, forced into installing updates. I am actually a software developer and one with a very limited tolerance of buggy things. I also understood that with Android you can't undo updates without invalidating the warranty. I have no problem with being informed they're available. Once. I can then review whether I want to risk it or not. I don't want to risk Oreo since there are plenty of reports of reduced battery life among other things and it brings nothing new of any significance and once it's on there it can't be taken off again.
So I checked the features and menus on the S8 before I bought it and went ahead.
This phone was great for about 3 months until the Oreo update was released. At which point the device began nagging. There are various settings which should, among other things, stop it downloading updates automatically and a developer mode option that should stop it updating. However as confirmed by Samsung these options simply do not work, it is a defect out-of-the-box and they are ignored. The phone will do what it wants not what you want.
So I'm now back where I was with Apple albeit the device is otherwise bug-free and superb. I have an uncancellable dialog box coming up repeatedly trying to railroad me into installing the Oreo update it should not have downloaded anyway. This is destroying what was a superb device. I've expended ages resetting it already. There aren't enough hours in the day. Android 7 is great. It isn't my primary device, that being my PC. I just want something that runs a few apps and checks email and that's about all. I don't want a "Samsung Experience"
Samsung refuse to fix this, but as they've confirmed it's a fault I can get a refund from the retailer now. However I still need a phone. My question is:
Is it absolutely necessary to invalidate the warranty on a brand new phone out-of-the-box to stop this behaviour since they're all like it? (e.g. "rooting" is the only option)
Or, does anyone know more than Samsung do about their phones and can advise how the phone can be repaired by me (have done factory reset, denied internet, set not to update etc., as Samsung confirm, this part is broken and doesn't work). I could for instance block Samsung's IPs if I knew what they were but that will only work on WiFi here, not on mobile data. As I understand it the package that needs disabling is called "Software Update" but that isn't possible (again without invalidating the warranty which I'd rather not do since it's almost new).
I know how to scupper Microsoft's Windows Updates but that's because that's what I work with and I know the OS quite well and what they're up to. But I don't know how the Android OS works nor should I need to, really. Another reason for my reluctance to forcibly replace the OS.
Don't mind a pop-up box informing me updates are available with a button "Do Not Install" coming up when the update is released. What I don't want is what this phone and Apple phones do which is to suggest they know better than you do and eventually force you into installing them.
Or, which Android phones behave properly and don't have this sort of fault? That respect the user's settings and do not do whatever they like? I'll need to choose a new one anyway so this would be really useful.
Thanks for reading all that