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[Q] How many GB are available in the Galaxy Nexus 16GB version?

I know the question title sounds self answering, but on my AT&T SGS2- it says 16gb on the box, but when I look at what is actually available for use, it says 11.36gb available.... total. But of course it has an SD slot. If the gNex only has 11gb available out of 16, that'd be a problem for me since it has no SD slot, which means I would wait. I'm debating on waiting for the 32gb or just ordering the 16gb version now depending on this info. Thanks for your accurate response

Total space available shows as 13.33GB

Mine also says 13.33 GB, but if you have apps synced/backed up to your google account it will install those as part of the "setting up" sequence, so your "available" storage will be less after set up.

also keep in mind if you have Google Music, then the cache will also eat up a lot

Ample space for a whopping 2 or 3 HD movies

Thanks! Question officially answered.
Thanks everybody! That's pushing it for me. On my SGS2 I'm using about 11gb right now and I don't even have movies on it. Shouldn't the sad face icon be blue too? Cause that's the colour I'm feelin now.
Release the (32gb) hounds!

How much of the 13.3 should be available on first boot? (Ie how much space does the os use?)

mr mystery said:
How much of the 13.3 should be available on first boot? (Ie how much space does the os use?)
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13.3 is what's left of the 16GB after the OS.

mr mystery said:
How much of the 13.3 should be available on first boot? (Ie how much space does the os use?)
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13.3 is what you get when you boot in fresh....

I have issues with mine, under storage it reports 1.3 gb for apps, 3gb for music/videos and 6gb free, I'm missing 3gb?? Windows reports 6gb free and 7.3 used?? The numbers don't match what happened to my 3gb?? Any help appreciated here.
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Bumping, greatly appreciate any ideas.
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6.3 + 7 = 13.3 total. Exactly what the other guys told you they had. Zero problem. All storage works this way. You have 16gb of storage, but only 13.3 is usable (after format). Same with your computers hd. For example, if you have a 320 gb harddrive, once its formatted to usable space, you only see like 298gb. Same with your phone.
Edit: I Think you're asking two different questions. As long as both are reporting the same free space you are ok. Formatting "takes away" space, and the os takes up space. This looks about right to me.

When u buy a 1TB hard disk, and you connect it for the first time, you have c.a. 900/950 GB total space. free, even less.
It's normal, every device with 16/32/64 etc, has less total memory than stated.

This is why I asked what was available after a fresh install, replies I got were 13.3gb. My system settings under storage shows 1.39 for apps, 3.04 for pictures and videos, and 6.60 available for a total of 11gb roughly. So does the os take up 2.3gb?

That1dude said:
Thanks everybody! That's pushing it for me. On my SGS2 I'm using about 11gb right now and I don't even have movies on it. Shouldn't the sad face icon be blue too? Cause that's the colour I'm feelin now.
Release the (32gb) hounds!
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Samsung might added fatty TouchWiz. That custom themes and its framework take more than stock android.

This is one of the few benefits that bests the GSM Version.
On Verizon, you get 4G with 32GB.
And I could care less about OTA.
So in the end, Verizon variant wins.
Only I miss out on accessories, white housing, and a slightly weaker development team compared to the GSM.

Memory question

I picked up the note 8.0 the other day and I'm really enjoying it, but I looked in the storage section in settings and was perplexed. It shows only 9.78GB of total internal storage available. Is everyone getting that little space? My Nexus 7 had something like 13.5GB free, and my Note 10.1 had around 12GB free. I know you lose a bit due to file system format, etc...but over 6GB of 16? That seems messed up.
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ExploreMN said:
I picked up the note 8.0 the other day and I'm really enjoying it, but I looked in the storage section in settings and was perplexed. It shows only 9.78GB of total internal storage available.
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I saw in another thread in one of these xda Note 8.0 forums about folks mentioning the same thing, so I'm pretty sure it is not just you. Yeah, it is disappointing.

Yup. Samsung are taking massive chunks for system memory these days.
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Nexus 7, plain android. Note 8, touchwiz, plus lots of bloat.
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Warrior1975 said:
Nexus 7, plain android. Note 8, touchwiz, plus lots of bloat.
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4GB of bloat above and beyond vanilla Android??? In a mobile OS like Android, that's a lot of bloat when you figure the average large app (not including games) is still near or under 25MB. That's about 160 apps at 25MB each!
Anyway, it kind of sucks. If they are going to eat up that much space with sheet they should make it with 24GB of storage so that when they sell a 16GB device it actually has 16GB!!! Ah well...I'm just *****ing now.

Don't have my device on me, but a df might tell how much of the /system partition's actually in use. My memory is that it's only about 60% or so.
parted can probably be used to resize /system but unless it's adjacent to /data, you'll want to take very careful notes before attempting that surgery.
Fortunately, you can use uni-init or term-init.sh to enable init.d scripts and then mount the sdcard as if it were internal storage. Most of my app data is written to my sdcard using that technique.

But we have an sd card slot, my N7 doesn't. Thats a nice addition to have.
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ExploreMN said:
4GB of bloat above and beyond vanilla Android??? In a mobile OS like Android, that's a lot of bloat when you figure the average large app (not including games) is still near or under 25MB. That's about 160 apps at 25MB each!
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Its not just bloat (apps) but OS (ROM) itself takes up more memory once the manufacturers start to add their proprietary "skins" to vanilla Android. Think of the extra features like Multi-Window and Smart Stay. That stuff takes up space, and the stock ROM is pretty huge (over 1 GB, I believe).
Not to mention, Sammy probaby reserves a chunk more on the ROM partition, in case they want to add more features on future updates.
Its very much the same on HTC devices, as well. On my One X, its also got 16 GB of memory, but only 9.93 GB available as storage.
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Anyway, it kind of sucks. If they are going to eat up that much space with sheet they should make it with 24GB of storage so that when they sell a 16GB device it actually has 16GB!!! Ah well...I'm just *****ing now.
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It would be nice if they actually reported the "user accessible storage" amount, like saying "16 GB memory, with 10 GB user accessible". Since saying how much memory the device has, without telling us how much of it is sucked up by the OS, is kinda useless information.
It would have also been nice, if they had offered a 32 GB version in the US.

No companies report true information like that. Just like cars they give you hp at crank, instead of at wheels, where there is around a 20% difference. Same concept here.
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Warrior1975 said:
No companies report true information like that. Just like cars they give you hp at crank, instead of at wheels, where there is around a 20% difference. Same concept here.
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Its more like the car company telling you the gas tank holds 16 gallons, when you can in fact only "use" 10 gallons of the gas tank.

I was trying out the demo set of Note 8 the other day at many different shops and were shock to see the the "available storage" on all the Note 8 were about 3.5GB to 3.8GB. I thought that being a demo set, it could be that there were many apps and useless stuff installed by other users. I've tried deleting useless data and uninstalling apps on 1 of them (resetting options were greyed out in settings) and still couldn't go above 4GB. I asked the staff and they confirmed that the "available storage" is that low. My question is whether the Note 8 used for demo were "different" from those that were for sale. It's quite unbelievable that all the Note 8 I saw (about 10 numbers at different shops) having so low storage available. That's one major reason I have not get my set yet.

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I was trying out the demo set of Note 8 the other day at many different shops and were shock to see the the "available storage" on all the Note 8 were about 3.5GB to 3.8GB. I thought that being a demo set, it could be that there were many apps and useless stuff installed by other users. I've tried deleting useless data and uninstalling apps on 1 of them (resetting options were greyed out in settings) and still couldn't go above 4GB. I asked the staff and they confirmed that the "available storage" is that low. My question is whether the Note 8 used for demo were "different" from those that were for sale. It's quite unbelievable that all the Note 8 I saw (about 10 numbers at different shops) having so low storage available. That's one major reason I have not get my set yet.
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Looking at the numbers your talking about, it looks like that demo unit had 8GB of internal memory. The units that are available for purchase are 16gb units and have about 10GB of free space on them for apps etc. In addition to this you also have the microSD card slot that allows for extra storage for media files etc but not applications.
If you are willing to root your device, you are able to use external storage for app data as well though. I should be receiving my 16gb wifi note 8.0 this evening (fingers crossed it has been delivered to the store) and will be using a 64gb microSD card in conjuntion with an app called FolderMount in order to use it to transfer application data from the internal storage thus allowing me to install more apps and games.
If your holding out for a 32gb model you may be waiting a while though as the website customer services and samsung store employees told me that they are not aware of a release day for a higher capacity device.
The storage data I talk about is true for the UK, I dont know if it would be the same where you are, but from what I can tell, all note 8.0s are 16gb capaciity at the moment. Hope that helps.

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Looking at the numbers your talking about, it looks like that demo unit had 8GB of internal memory. The units that are available for purchase are 16gb units and have about 10GB of free space on them for apps etc. In addition to this you also have the microSD card slot that allows for extra storage for media files etc but not applications.
If you are willing to root your device, you are able to use external storage for app data as well though. I should be receiving my 16gb wifi note 8.0 this evening (fingers crossed it has been delivered to the store) and will be using a 64gb microSD card in conjuntion with an app called FolderMount in order to use it to transfer application data from the internal storage thus allowing me to install more apps and games.
If your holding out for a 32gb model you may be waiting a while though as the website customer services and samsung store employees told me that they are not aware of a release day for a higher capacity device.
The storage data I talk about is true for the UK, I dont know if it would be the same where you are, but from what I can tell, all note 8.0s are 16gb capaciity at the moment. Hope that helps.
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Thanks. I will go back to check with store on whether their demo set were the 8GB or 16GB version. I've googled for the tech spec on Note 8 and all comes with 16GB or 32GB. The nearest match to 8GB will be on a Tab2. Thanks again and I'm from Singapore.

Alright, I have checked with the store assistance and it was confirmed that at hit on display were Wi-Fi only and it's only at 8GB. I'm a happy owner of Note 8 now and it has 8.7GB of available storage.
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"lighter" roms - any possibility?

As the title says is there any chance a very light rom could be developed? I'm still fresh with HTC but I notice that the system software etc takes up a hell of a lot of the "available" storage. I wish they wouldn't advertise phones as having X internal memory when half of it is actually needed for the whole system itself.
I'm still used to my old galaxy s4 where some light roms only took up a few GB's of the internal memory.
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As the title says is there any chance a very light rom could be developed? I'm still fresh with HTC but I notice that the system software etc takes up a hell of a lot of the "available" storage. I wish they wouldn't advertise phones as having X internal memory when half of it is actually needed for the whole system itself.
I'm still used to my old galaxy s4 where some light roms only took up a few GB's of the internal memory.
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I could be wrong, but I think that's due to partitioning and not necessarily having a "heavy" rom.

Well between 12-15 GB is a lot to lose from a phone advertised as 32GB memory lol. I understand that a certain amount will ALWAYS be set aside for the system itself, just seems like a huge chunk.
It's just a shame that there aren't any options for reducing this by much. Or if it's even possible. Perhaps I'm just used to teeny tiny rims with my galaxy lol.

There are no Light Roms that I've seen for the M9.
The only thing I could say is install LeeDroids ROM and in aroma check mark all the apps that you don't want installed..
Buy again not really the answer to your question..
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You'll have a light ROM in cm12. Once its been fixed. In regards to sense, the vast majority of the ROM can be removed using titanium or during install using aroma. Sense has always been quite chunky, unfortunately there's no real way around that, a desensed ROM has been available for pretty much every HTC phone I've ever had so I guess it probably won't be too long before one becomes available for the m9 too.
As for the amount of storage available, no disrespect but its a 32GB phone with external storage as an option! Why would you need an extra GB? As opposed to the s4 you will have more memory even when you've fully loaded your ROM with apps.

I think the system bloat would be a huge issue except for the external sdcard. With it, it's close to a non-issue.
I have a 32GB external card. I keep my music, twrp and tibu backups, and photos on the external card and leave internal storage for system, apps, and roms. Works just fine.

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I think the system bloat would be a huge issue except for the external sdcard. With it, it's close to a non-issue.
I have a 32GB external card. I keep my music, twrp and tibu backups, and photos on the external card and leave internal storage for system, apps, and roms. Works just fine.
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Pretty much the same for me, I have the Samsung evo 64gb with 8 gb music and a couple small movies and TV shows and it's only half full.
While the phones storage has over 14gb free
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I have a 32GB class 10 SanDisk ultra card external SD. Even with that and even with usually about 14GB free in the internal memory, I still cry wait to use a rom without half as much space for the system
Anyway thanks for the help guys.
Obviously the main issue is a backup takes up between 9-12 GB so once I have two roms backed up on my external SD then I'm well over half way full . I like several backups, all different roms

tomorio said:
I have a 32GB class 10 SanDisk ultra card external SD. Even with that and even with usually about 14GB free in the internal memory, I still cry wait to use a rom without half as much space for the system
Anyway thanks for the help guys.
Obviously the main issue is a backup takes up between 9-12 GB so once I have two roms backed up on my external SD then I'm well over half way full . I like several backups, all different roms
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The phone supports up to a 200gb ex_SD card. The 64gb are the most affordable for the size. Many here use a 128gb.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=i...d&rh=i:computers&sprefix=200+gb+micro+sd+card
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tomorio said:
I have a 32GB class 10 SanDisk ultra card external SD. Even with that and even with usually about 14GB free in the internal memory, I still cry wait to use a rom without half as much space for the system
Anyway thanks for the help guys.
Obviously the main issue is a backup takes up between 9-12 GB so once I have two roms backed up on my external SD then I'm well over half way full . I like several backups, all different roms
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Why are your backups so big? Mine are just over 6 GB.

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The phone supports up to a 200gb ex_SD card. The 64gb are the most affordable for the size. Many here use a 128gb.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=i...d&rh=i:computers&sprefix=200+gb+micro+sd+card
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If it's confirmed to support up to 200GB I know what my next purchase is

jollywhitefoot said:
Why are your backups so big? Mine are just over 6 GB.
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System around 4-6 and data round 4-6 GB's. I like to be able to pick up where I left off.

tomorio said:
System around 4-6 and data round 4-6 GB's. I like to be able to pick up where I left off.
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Are you backing up system or system image? In normal backups you don't need to backup system image, you just need system, data and boot. My system backup is under 2 GB.

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Are you backing up system or system image? In normal backups you don't need to backup system image, you just need system, data and boot. My system backup is under 2 GB.
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No system image no.

My backups are about 10-11 gb. I do have a lot of apps installed. I'm sure that's part of it. 2 gb alone are probably accounted for by Real Racing and Asphalt 8.
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iElvis said:
My backups are about 10-11 gb. I do have a lot of apps installed. I'm sure that's part of it. 2 gb alone are probably accounted for by Real Racing and Asphalt 8.
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Good to know. I figured user apps would be in the data portion of the backup and not system, though. How big is your system backup file?

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Good to know. I figured user apps would be in the data portion of the backup and not system, though. How big is your system backup file?
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I think about 2gb. Most is definitely data.
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I think about 2gb. Most is definitely data.
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Ok. Yeah that's how mine is. I don't understand why @tomorio would have 4-6 GB for system which makes me wonder if there's something screwy with his install.

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Ok. Yeah that's how mine is. I don't understand why @tomorio would have 4-6 GB for system which makes me wonder if there's something screwy with his install.
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No idea. Just double-checked my latest. System is just under 2 GB, data is about 8 GB.

How much storage will be available on the 16gb??

As many of you, I'm considering the 16gb model. I have like 2gb of music and another few for apps. My question is, after the OS how much space can we expect to have.

On my Nexus 5, 12.55 GB formatted/installed with no apps installed, which isn't really a possible scenario. FWIW, I have 3.52GB of apps installed, a few megs of images and other, and 517MB of cached data and have 6.4GB left.
Before installing the Marshmallow official version, I was routinely running into storage problems just with downloaded/cached music after a few months of use.

Yeah I was kinda thinking that around 12gb would be free. I have a galaxy s6 now and there is like 9 gb of "other" storage which is prolly all the Verizon crap in addition to the OS.

Something to consider.
I'm on the marshmallow Preview on my Nexus 6 and I've noticed the OS seems to cache higher amounts of data. I'm constantly seeing 1gb cache in my storage and clearing it. Not sure of this is a marshmallow thing or just some weird quirk with the preview build

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Something to consider.
I'm on the marshmallow Preview on my Nexus 6 and I've noticed the OS seems to cache higher amounts of data. I'm constantly seeing 1gb cache in my storage and clearing it. Not sure of this is a marshmallow thing or just some weird quirk with the preview build
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How much space is the preview build?
I preorderd a 16 and 32 and will return one obvi but want to be safe and not regret not getting enough space down the road.

I went 32 just to safe than sorry. Currently my usage on the Nexus 5 I would have 6GB of free space on a 16 model. I got the 32GB in case I decided put my music and a couple of videos on my phone for vacation trips I will be taking this year.
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I saw an unboxing video from a tech blog in India and it showed around 10.6GB available on the 16GB model.

Tidbits said:
I went 32 just to safe than sorry. Currently my usage on the Nexus 5 I would have 6GB of free space on a 16 model. I got the 32GB in case I decided put my music and a couple of videos on my phone for vacation trips I will be taking this year.
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That's been my thinking as well. 32GB is really the minimum if you want to have some media files on hand for those (admittedly rare) moments when there's no internet connection.
I don't need my entire music collection or video collection, just a few albums and a couple HD episodes or a movie as backup. Oh and a few games, most of which are getting into the 2GB+ sizes (Hearthstone, etc.)
Also if someone intends to record 4k videos it would be advised not to go with the 16GB version.

Hopefully this won't be a problem at all. I imagine we will get "lite" roms and such. Something tells me it will be manageable.

mpetruzz said:
As many of you, I'm considering the 16gb model. I have like 2gb of music and another few for apps. My question is, after the OS how much space can we expect to have.
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As its a pure android phone the software won't take a large space.I think 12.5 GB will be available for users.I don't think 16 GB model is right choice but if you doesn't download many apps and games then its a good option.

IamAlexD said:
As its a pure android phone the software won't take a large space.I think 12.5 GB will be available for users.I don't think 16 GB model is right choice but if you doesn't download many apps and games then its a good option.
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It's already been shown in video that the available space in the 16 GB is around 10.6 GB. As previously stated in the thread.
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EeZeEpEe said:
It's already been shown in video that the available space in the 16 GB is around 10.6 GB. As previously stated in the thread.
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
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Are they sure nothing was installed? For example Google story can take 3-4 GB if you download the stories.
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Tidbits said:
Are they sure nothing was installed? For example Google story can take 3-4 GB if you download the stories.
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Pretty sure they went to settings, storage and under "Total space" was 10.6 GB. I gotta find the video but forgot which one it was.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Pretty sure they went to settings, storage and under "Total space" was 10.6 GB. I gotta find the video but forgot which one it was.
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
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Pay me no mind I got the 32GB. Honestly if I just stick with my most use apps I would only need 8GB on the phone. I got the 32GB only because I am taking a lengthy vacation. Might want to carry a few movies and also might take a lot of photos and videos while out and about.
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Tidbits said:
Pay me no mind I got the 32GB. Honestly if I just stick with my most use apps I would only need 8GB on the phone. I got the 32GB only because I am taking a lengthy vacation. Might want to carry a few movies and also might take a lot of photos and videos while out and about.
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Ditto. 32GB ordered and I still have Sprint grandfathered original unlimited data so I stream all my music and video. Can't go wrong with double the space for $50.
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Note: if a Google Play Music user, be sure to disable "Cache during playback" and you'll save yourself some space.
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What is the usable space on the 32GB variant?

Hello, I've been thinking about getting the Honor 7x for my next phone and was wondering how much of the space is free for the user in the 4GB RAM/32GB variant selling in India for Rs.12999? I can't get the 64GB version since it's a tad bit expensive, so is the available space on the 32GB sufficient for a person who just sticks to a limited set of apps during their daily usage (just messaging, social media, youtube, maps, etc., I don't store music on my phone nor play heavy games and use Google Photos for photos). Thanks

killer_bunny said:
Hello, I've been thinking about getting the Honor 7x for my next phone and was wondering how much of the space is free for the user in the 4GB RAM/32GB variant selling in India for Rs.12999? I can't get the 64GB version since it's a tad bit expensive, so is the available space on the 32GB sufficient for a person who just sticks to a limited set of apps during their daily usage (just messaging, social media, youtube, maps, etc., I don't store music on my phone nor play heavy games and use Google Photos for photos). Thanks
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22GB

You'd probably be fine with the 32GB version. Just get an SD card if you want to store more on the phone.

Jan.Pul said:
22GB
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So this means that the 64GB variant well have 54GB left, WONDERFUL.

PalakMi said:
So this means that the 64GB variant well have 54GB left, WONDERFUL.
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It's a heavily protected partition, so whatever size system you'll get it will fit

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It's a heavily protected partition, so whatever size system you'll get it will fit
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I got it

PalakMi said:
So this means that the 64GB variant well have 54GB left, WONDERFUL.
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well it's not proportional, but you'll have storage around the 55gb area.
i think.

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well it's not proportional, but you'll have storage around the 55gb area.
i think.
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That's still great

The storage is never proportional and the size usable on 32GB is almost 20 gb i think stock, but with an extra 32gb or more class 10+ or better UHS sd card will be good for the phone since it easily handles the speed..

17 free
Got the phone yesterday. 32 gig, 17.2 free. Red army must be hiding a lot of back doors in there somewhere ?

PalakMi said:
So this means that the 64GB variant well have 54GB left, WONDERFUL.
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crayonicle said:
well it's not proportional, but you'll have storage around the 55gb area.
i think.
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From memory, i bought the 64Gb french version and the free space was around 49Gb. You can free some space by uninstalling some crap installed ap and you have around 50Gb.
It's quite confortable.