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I sold my HD2 on Thursday and let me say first off that I have no regrets whatsoever: I absolutely love this phone. Before I sold the HD2 I played some music tracks on both devices through the loudspeaker and headphones jack and noticed a HUGE differential in volume.....I thought the HD2 speaker was pretty tinny but it was at least audible; the Desire speaker volume is incredibly underpowered...being practically inaudible in a moderately noisy environment. This problem seems to extend even as far as the headphones socket since some of the songs I was unable to play at full volume on the HD2 for fear of bursting my eardrums are simply not loud enough for me on the Desire.
Am I the only person to think the volume levels are too low? Is there perhaps a way to increase the pre amp levels. It's as quiet as the first generation iPhone which was REALLY BAD.
Any thoughts from anyone here?
Hi there - I've been searching online to see if anyone else has been having this problem and came across your post.
Had my Desire for a week now, and I love it. But the volume via headphones is WAY too low. Stupidly too low. I can't hear it on the tube at all, for example.
I was looking forward to using it - and Spotify, in partcular - as a replacement for my aging iPod. But there's just no way.
I can't believe this is common to every phone, as surely there would be more people complaining about it. Are there different firmware versions knocking about? It's got me pretty frustrated.
Ok this is not nice, speaker volume is very important to me. This is the first time I see somebody be this negative about it though...
Damn..
Further, you coming from the HD2, any more thoughts you want to share about the switch?
How is the 4.3 inch to 3.7 inch 'jump'?
Kind regards
Screen size is not a problem for me, colours are beautiful on the Desire and the screen seems note responsive. I tried using the HD2 for a day after getting the Desire and hated it bycomparison! Only massive annoyance though is that it is nowhere near as loud.
I suspect that people are still in their honeymoon period with the phone and that complaints will start to surface about the speaker volume in time. As far as I can recall all my other Android devices were a lot louder than this.
Don't have the device yet but in a video review the guy said the speaker was pretty loud, so it's probably only a software problem
chipshop said:
Had my Desire for a week now, and I love it. But the volume via headphones is WAY too low. Stupidly too low. I can't hear it on the tube at all, for example..
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Juste buy in-ear headphones ! your ear will thanks you, pushing the volume to 100db because the tube is masking noise : not a good idea believe me.
I too, coming from an iPhone, find the headphone volume painfully low.
I use an under speaker pillow to listen to podcasts without disturbing the wife, and on the iPhone she'd sometimes complain that she could hear it. Now with the Desire I find that sometimes I can't hear it and that's at full volume.
I know this is probably obvious but I take it you have gone through. Audio settings
And maxed the volume? And checked any volume controls on headphones? If both set to max
And still not loud then the handset is faulty so get it replaced
Now!!
Mine set to max would be at ear bleeding levels!!
The speaker quality isn't great, but considering I don't use them that much it is good enough for me.
Am a little surprised with the headphone issues, considering that I have my volume set just under halfway and it is more than loud enough for me.
I am using my Sennheiser earphones, but the volume is fine with the supplied HTC ones too.
what kind of bit-rates are you using for music? ... 128? or more, ... as the quality effects the loudness somehow I believe.
try experimenting with different bit rates and see how that goes
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Screen size is not a problem for me, colours are beautiful on the Desire and the screen seems note responsive. I tried using the HD2 for a day after getting the Desire and hated it bycomparison! Only massive annoyance though is that it is nowhere near as loud.
I suspect that people are still in their honeymoon period with the phone and that complaints will start to surface about the speaker volume in time. As far as I can recall all my other Android devices were a lot louder than this.
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I think this might be due to new UE regulations about maximum volume in mobile devices, though im not 100% sure if its already in the system.
However Im pretty sure that in couple days/weeks there will be some hacks/apps/ to change that
So have I got a faulty phone?
Or are people just overly forgiving??
Everything is set to max. I've also noticed that the Mic quality in videos is also shockingly poor in terms of volume. I wonder if all of these functions are shared by the same chipset.
leoni, I'm having just the same problem. I think it must be a problem with some of these phones. I can't believe that people are just being overly forgiving.
I'm not looking to push the volume up too high, but if I can't hear it when there's a little background noise going on, then that's a serious design flaw.
I'd like to do a comparison with another Desire at some point, hopefully I'll bump into someone using one soon...
Just to answer some of the above questions/suggestions:-
I'm using MP3s in 256k bit rate format. All volume controls are set to max and there is no volume control on the headphones I am using.
I'm sending mine back. I'm due an upgrade on Monday anyway so I'll test one in the shop and see if It's the same. The headphone volume is the main issue for me; its just too low.
I also think that the volume is way too low. Just out of curiosity, could this be a Rom issue? I'm using the stock TMO Rom. To the people who think it's loud enough, which Rom are you on?
My biggest problem is with the volume through the headphones....speaker volume I can live with, though it is crap and tinny
I think this must be an issue on your phone or you expect it to be crazy loud. I swapped out my ipod for this today on a good set of headphones (AKG KE518LE's) and the volume levels seem identical. As for the speaker, i find mine is a tad on the loud side to be honest. I find myself having to knock it dont a few notches on the volume.
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I think this must be an issue on your phone or you expect it to be crazy loud. I swapped out my ipod for this today on a good set of headphones (AKG KE518LE's) and the volume levels seem identical. As for the speaker, i find mine is a tad on the loud side to be honest. I find myself having to knock it dont a few notches on the volume.
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are you on TMO ROM?
Loud speaker isn't audible above the sound of my shower, which is a real shame as coming from a n95 8gb the loud speaker was great. Oh well. I'm a forgiving type!
I have found music volume to be pretty low but I'm fairly convinced it is a software/Rom issue because the volume in some applications is loud! Doesn't made much sense. Running T-mob here.
Hi everyone
I recently bought a pair of Ultimate Ears Super.Fi vi 5's to use with my HTC Desire. However, even on the lowest media volume (1/15), it still hurts my ears when playing music through the headset.
Is there some way to reduce the volume further?
I've tried a few applications, but they just have the same volume increments as the default volume control. I want something like 1/100. =D
What are you, a bat? The lowest volume hurts? You're saying your phone goes from mute to deafening with nothing in between?
I'd say either your phone volume rocker is broken or you have yourself the worlds greatest amplifying earphones.
Haha, I had a feeling something like that would be the first reply.
The rocker is fine and the volume incrementally increases to a max. It's just that it starts off too high. The stock HTC headset work ok, so the phone itself shouldn't be faulty. I just want a lower starting volume.
The earphones have a pretty low impedance of 13ohms, so yes, they'd be pretty amplifying.
i wonder is it the low impedance thats causing the problem? i'm using sony headphones with mine and they are fine..
It most likely is the low impedance ... hence why I want to set the volume lower.
Although I don't think I'll find an application to do that. I installed the SDK for Android and had a poke around. It turns out the max value for the media/music audio stream is 15. And you can only set it by integers. =(. I was hoping to just write my own app which sets the volume to what I want, but it doesn't seem like its possible without diving further into the Android OS.
For those who've gone into such business with rooted phones, modded custom roms etc, is it even possible?
Unless i've missed something is you phone rooted?
Anyways i say to save the the trouble send em back and get some normal philips earphones lol
Seriously it not the phone cause default the volume level isnt high until you root the phone
Nope, Stock rom straight from Handtec from the very first batch.
These earphones are nice, quite recommended infact. =D. Also, being canalphones, you can't *just* return them.
I found this which might do the trick to lower sound levels.
ht tp://ww w.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-iphone-mic42-a22.htm
If I'm not mistaken, it oughta do the trick on a hardware level. =D
I'm having exactly the same issue, using a pair of Jerry Harvey JH5. There are quite a few higher quality headphones that have this issue. My headphones are worth more than the phone itself, so please don't just tell me to "get some normal philips earphones". While getting a volume attenuator may be a viable workaround, it seems a bit of a pain, and isn't really a solution. Any help would be very much appreciated.
Is anyone getting these slight clicking noise from the speaker whenever the phone is in use, like opening an app for example. I got my phone phone from the launch event (5th in line!! ) and i only noticed when it was really quiet in my room these noises came from the speakers.
To check, open an app and quickly put your ear to the speaker and I hear a hissing noise then a soft click. Always happens when i open an app!
I went back to Phones4U, the guy could tell it was faulty so I got it replaced..now same problem!! (not as loud as before, but still there)
Anyone having the same problem? can anyone check for me? this can't be normal!
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Is anyone getting these slight hissing noise from the speaker whenever the phone is in use, like opening an app for example. I got my phone phone from the launch event (5th in line!! ) and i only noticed when it was really quiet in my room these noises came from the speakers.
To check, open an app and quickly put your ear to the speaker and I hear a hissing noise then a soft click. Always happens when i open an app!
I even went back, the guy could tell it was faulty so I got it replaced..now same problem!! (not as loud as before, but still there)
Anyone having the same problem? can anyone check for me? this can't be normal!
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Yeah I have that problem. It's one of those things that you don't really notice until you know it's there, then you hear it all the time
Someone on another forum posted they had the same, so it might not be an isolated problem.
Isn't that just the touch click?
Try Settings/Sound/Touch sounds.
Personally I rather like it..
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Isn't that just the touch click?
Try Settings/Sound/Touch sounds.
Personally I rather like it..
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No, I have that turned off.
It happens whenever the speaker is used - when the sound stops there is a quiet hiss, followed by a pop as the speaker switches off.
Try it - hold the speaker right up to your ear, and use the volume rocker to hear the beep. Afterwards there is hiss followed by a pop.
It's not noticeable enough to be an issue (for me) in normal use, but you can hear it if you're in a quiet room.
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No, I have that turned off.
It happens whenever the speaker is used - when the sound stops there is a quiet hiss, followed by a pop as the speaker switches off.
Try it - hold the speaker right up to your ear, and use the volume rocker to hear the beep. Afterwards there is hiss followed by a pop.
It's not noticeable enough to be an issue (for me) in normal use, but you can hear it if you're in a quiet room.
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I can hear it on my G2x... I'm sure it's not an issue and your just being paranoid because you dropped a whole bunch of cash on a new phone
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Isn't that just the touch click?
Try Settings/Sound/Touch sounds.
Personally I rather like it..
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The click comes like 3 seconds after you make an input, so it doesn't sound right and it just sounds random (and annoying).
thanks tho!
Edit: Turning off Touch sounds, seems to stop it, whenever im using the phone..but yeah still happens whenever the speaker is in use but that i can live with that!
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No, I have that turned off.
It happens whenever the speaker is used - when the sound stops there is a quiet hiss, followed by a pop as the speaker switches off.
Try it - hold the speaker right up to your ear, and use the volume rocker to hear the beep. Afterwards there is hiss followed by a pop.
It's not noticeable enough to be an issue (for me) in normal use, but you can hear it if you're in a quiet room.
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Happens with my OG Droid. I only started noticing it one late night when for no reason I had the speaker right up next to my ear.
I don't think it's anything to worry about
KiNG OMaR said:
I can hear it on my G2x... I'm sure it's not an issue and your just being paranoid because you dropped a whole bunch of cash on a new phone
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Heh, that's certainly got something to do with it
As I say it's not really an issue, and it's not unique to this phone (as you point out). Just one of those annoying niggles - it depends on how sensitive you are to these things
Yes - I have the same problem with my new Galaxy Nexus. In fact, even if it's not a problem for most people, I'd say it is a problem for Samsung because I returned my phone yesterday and got it swapped out. The new one has the same problem, so I assume it's an Android software problem rather than a hardware glitch.
So that's at least two returns caused by this problem. Hope we get a fix at some point!
p.s. Phone is great by the way, even with the annoying click.
Guys
This is hardware problem. And it happens on most of the speakers however its more or less noticeable on some devices.
I have quite good quality monitors (studio speakers) and i can hear something hissing in the back.
Let me put it that way.
Every speaker needs electricity to work. The noise you are hearing is the actual electric current coming through the speakers. The sudden pop and lack of the hiss means that speaker has been turned off. For obvious reasons there is no point for the speaker to work constantly....
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I can't hear any click when I plug headphones in, so maybe you're right - the click could be when the amplifier that powers the internal speaker turns off...
However, for some reason I still get a click if the phone is in silent mode. I guess putting it in silent mode doesn't guarantee it keeps the amplifier turned off.
I hope it's just the speakers; the DAC in my HD2 hissed for a few seconds after any sounds even through my headphones. The hissing was always there when there was sound. It was quite depressing. I'm hoping for a good DAC in the Galaxy nexus.
I've got a click (sounds just like a quite speaker pop) from the back cover.
Turn your GN over and push the back cover, on the "Google" logo (below the camera flash). Then quickly release your finger.
Sometime it can happen with only the lightest of touches. If i put my phone down on my chest, the pick it up.
If you look really closely you can see the cover moving just below the camera surround.
Issue has been reported to google.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22307
I have this issue on my gnex. Its def a sw problem. I took the back cover off and still have the issue.
slightly different, but also hiss related...
my rezound does the same thing when headphones(or aux to car) are plugged in and nothing is playing. once you start to play something you don't notice it. and its a confirmed issue.
It's a hardware issue guys, depends on the audio chip I believe. Impedance-related.
Here is the other thread with this annoying sound
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20087759
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It isn't just on the speaker either. Atleast on my Galaxy Nexus, I can hear it when listening on high end professional in-ear headphones. I can verify that it is almost certainly a signal isolation problem. The activity causes the DAC (the thing that makes a digital signal into an analog signal that speakers and headphones need) to kick on for a few seconds and until it shuts off you can hear the noise coming out of the DAC. It's pretty substantial on mine though, so I'm wondering if I got a bad unit. I'll have to stop by a Verizon Wireless store and plug in to the display unit to see if it is any better. I never noticed this on my Galaxy S (Fascinate).
My unit is also affected, it was made in Vietnam. I checked the Google Code issue tracker link (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22307) and I can see many people confirming this also. This is definitely not how the speaker should work - I checked another Samsung phone (SGS II) and there's no such "clicks". There's some silent noise but not the click.
I can hear it from the speaker only, not through the headphones.
I think many users are unaware of the issue because it is often only noticeable in a silent environment.
Yes getting same issue. Have tried different ROMS to no avail
Well I returned my phone with a full refund.
The volume was so low on my GNex I could hardly hear YouTube videos/Music /Notifications so I returned it. Is this the same on all GNex? (Volume Bug was another reason for returning)
Long story short I regret returning it cause I loved ICS but the volume problems were enough to drive me crazy.
So my question - Is the volume low on your Gnex's ? I don't want to pick one up again if the volume truly is that low compared to other phones.
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Well I returned my phone with a full refund.
The volume was so low on my GNex I could hardly hear YouTube videos/Music /Notifications so I returned it. Is this the same on all GNex? (Volume Bug was another reason for returning)
Long story short I regret returning it cause I loved ICS but the volume problems were enough to drive me crazy.
So my question - Is the volume low on your Gnex's ? I don't want to pick one up again if the volume truly is that low compared to other phones.
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forget about GNexus.
have yourself actually come across any devices that have a speaker that is loud enough for you under crowd environment? (even my xoom doesn't provide volume loud enough). plus you have to check if the audio of that music/video is originally softer or louder. certain audio/video are slightly softer by default. hence its really hard to measure.
i find the GNexus is loud enough under quiet environment.
Yeah, it is a bit low compared to other phones. If that's a deal-breaker then that's unfortunate. Maybe along the line someone will make a custom kernel/rom that will boost the volume though so you should keep an eye out.
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forget about GNexus.
have yourself actually come across any devices that have a speaker that is loud enough for you under crowd environment? (even my xoom doesn't provide volume loud enough). plus you have to check if the audio of that music/video is originally softer or louder. certain audio/video are slightly softer by default. hence its really hard to measure.
i find the GNexus is loud enough under quiet environment.
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Chrono_Tata said:
Yeah, it is a bit low compared to other phones. If that's a deal-breaker then that's unfortunate. Maybe along the line someone will make a custom kernel/rom that will boost the volume though so you should keep an eye out.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Well I currently have an iPhone 4S which is perfect sound wise and so is my Dell Venue Pro. I can hear them both easy without a problem but I couldn't hear my Gnex when I was in the house talking to family. I may have had a faulty phone? Was well quiet. Considering the Galaxy Note right now but really want the Gnex again.
It is more quiet than my previous HTC Desire. But I love that it is not too loud that you are close to hearing the speakers cracking. I am not afraid to put the device in full volume anymore.
I found it way too low (as in I was close to returning it) but use Volume+ to boost it up to very respectable levels without distortion. Was happy with that then had Volume+ crash a couple of times so hoping for a proper patch (official or community) at some point.
Can't find the thread anymore, but some users with the same problem reported good results using Volume+. Think it was mainly the speaker volume when ringing that was an issue for him/her/them.
Might be worth a shot!
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Thanks for the replies guys. Well I currently have an iPhone 4S which is perfect sound wise and so is my Dell Venue Pro. I can hear them both easy without a problem but I couldn't hear my Gnex when I was in the house talking to family. I may have had a faulty phone? Was well quiet. Considering the Galaxy Note right now but really want the Gnex again.
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do bear in mind that the iphone and dell venue both have side loaded speakers. and primarily all new android phones has their speaker at the back of the phones. ny default, the audio is blasted away from you (if you are watching youtube). you need some sort of deflector to deflect the audio back to the front to make it louder.
for instant, if you are listening to music, and have the phone facing backward, i don't think you will have any big issues.
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do bear in mind that the iphone and dell venue both have side loaded speakers. and primarily all new android phones has their speaker at the back of the phones. ny default, the audio is blasted away from you (if you are watching youtube). you need some sort of deflector to deflect the audio back to the front to make it louder.
for instant, if you are listening to music, and have the phone facing backward, i don't think you will have any big issues.
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True, but sound on my old Galaxy S2 was good with the speaker on the back. (Sold it before picking up the Gnex) I'm Androidless at the moment.. so its between picking this back up or the Note.
recklesslife85 said:
True, but sound on my old Galaxy S2 was good with the speaker on the back. (Sold it before picking up the Gnex) I'm Androidless at the moment.. so its between picking this back up or the Note.
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i have not really tested the SGS2, so i can't comment much in that. primarily throughout all nexus i had, Nexus one, Nexus S and now Galaxy Nexus, they are all about the same, i would say.
maybe you should give +Volume a shot, it could be something samsung has modified in their touchwiz to boost the volume, like how the Beats ranges from HTC.
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i have not really tested the SGS2, so i can't comment much in that. primarily throughout all nexus i had, Nexus one, Nexus S and now Galaxy Nexus, they are all about the same, i would say.
maybe you should give +Volume a shot, it could be something samsung has modified in their touchwiz to boost the volume, like how the Beats ranges from HTC.
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Yeah true. I'll try +Volume if I can force myself to pick one back up haha! Thanks for the input anyways.
I found the ringtones and notifications quite low, but all i do is use Audacity to boost the volume of my ringtones then put them on my phone!
Problem solved
Evileddie said:
I found the ringtones and notifications quite low, but all i do is use Audacity to boost the volume of my ringtones then put them on my phone!
Problem solved
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I'll check it out, thanks.
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I found the ringtones and notifications quite low, but all i do is use Audacity to boost the volume of my ringtones then put them on my phone!
Problem solved
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this is the exactly scenario i meant by some audio are softer by default.
I've seen this mentioned on a different site but wanted to get some feedback from XDA folks. Does anyone else have this issue? There's a weird crackling while on calls when the screen is either on or off (speakerphone is fine). I also noticed that when not on a call, if you put it up to your ear and turn on the screen, you can hear a similar sound that goes away when the screen is off. I saw that this problem was also happening with the Nexus 4 at one point but the thread didn't seem to go anywhere, and a similar thread for the G2. I went and exchanged my phone today and this one actually seems worse.
I'm pretty sure I'm not crazy. If it matters, it's a Verizon model.
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I've seen this mentioned on a different site but wanted to get some feedback from XDA folks. Does anyone else have this issue? There's a weird crackling while on calls when the screen is either on or off (speakerphone is fine). I also noticed that when not on a call, if you put it up to your ear and turn on the screen, you can hear a similar sound that goes away when the screen is off. I saw that this problem was also happening with the Nexus 4 at one point but the thread didn't seem to go anywhere, and a similar thread for the G2. I went and exchanged my phone today and this one actually seems worse.
I'm pretty sure I'm not crazy. If it matters, it's a Verizon model.
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I have International version and I have the same problem. I discovered something that wasn't mentioned before. When you'll take off the back cover the crackling is gone. Please try and give feedback if it is the same with your g3.
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I have International version and I have the same problem. I discovered something that wasn't mentioned before. When you'll take off the back cover the crackling is gone. Please try and give feedback if it is the same with your g3.
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Crackling is definitely still there without the back cover. The US variant doesn't have wireless charging, so maybe that part is causing the crackling for you?
edit: I found a couple of threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/poor-call-quality-distortion-noise-t2808530
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/q-poor-call-clarity-t2806744
No solution other than to exchange. Let's see what happens when I go back. I will go through all of their phones if I have to.
edit2: Went back to the store after work and they flat out refused to replace it because we couldn't reproduce it in the store. I'm starting to think it only does it when not in a full signal area. Stores have repeaters in them.
I am noticing a slight pop, crackling noise from the phone ear piece as well. I rarely use a phones earpiece...almost always use my Bluetooth(Voyager Legend).
I don't hear any of this when using my bluetooth headset.
It is very minor...imo....though just now, I was talking with a friend via the phone headset....and he said there seemed to be some "white noise every-time I spoke.
Same problem - ear speaker buzz / crackle
LG G3 with AT&T - on any and every call, the ear speaker crackles and buzzes so loudly it is almost hard to understand what the person on the phone is saying. This is my 2nd LG G3 in a week. First one killed the battery in 4 hours with very light use. This one battery is great, but now can't talk on phone. Speakerphone is perfect, Bluetooth in car is perfect, but that ear speaker on the face of the phone at the top is causing a huge problem. Any ideas?
i heard a crackling noise too, during calls, in ear speaker..
i have att version d850
Same here
During phone calls it's almost like the buzz/rattle muffles the voices of the individuals in speaking with. I love the G3 but as a teacher and basketball coach talking on the phone is very important to me.
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During phone calls it's almost like the buzz/rattle muffles the voices of the individuals in speaking with. I love the G3 but as a teacher and basketball coach talking on the phone is very important to me.
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I've had this problem with the G2s but not with my G3. Have D851. Which model do you have?
Headphone cables with higher resistance will reduce the problems. This mostly happens when the volume of the phone is not at max. Try using a Fiio (20$) to connect to your phone, put the volume to max and enjoy clear (and even better quality through better amp) music/audio. The will be no more crackling whatsoever. If there should be, buy your Fiio at amazon.com or similar so that you can return it if it shouldn't work. I myself the the same issue and it got resolved by my Fiio. There's also other reports on a Fiio resolving this issue.