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This is a short summary of some important general points for posting new ROM's.
It should be considered as an optional "add-on" to the general thread:
"Galaxy S I9000 Android Development **STICKY THREAD** Read here first!"
The number of man hours spent working and developing new custom ROMs are astronomical! So why then, is it that so few new ROMs are successful? Basically because of lack of information and poor public visibility/involvement of the developers themselves. It's just like in any other successful business, you have to make your product or service stand out from the rest. Either by making an amazing product or by being a great inspiration for others to follow. Here I will try to explain and list some fundamental ideas, in order to make your ROM better and more popular.
When a would be ROM flasher is looking around for a new ROM, he searches the web and the XDA-forums for threads, usually beginning with the text "[ROM]". Next he/she look at the FIRST page where the developer (and his/her team) is presenting the various features of their new design. What is presented there will often be a decision maker for whether or not someone wants to try it out.
There are a few things that consistently differs between "good" ROMs and "bad/poor" ROM's. These things are often and naturally related to the amount of information available around the ROM in question. Someone who have put down enough mind, sweat and hart into the production (cooking) of a ROM, would also like to share his/her effort in the best possible way, not minding writing a detailed and useful description about their product. The items found below are part of some of these things that do MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
- Primary Purpose:
Essentially a description why you want to provide this ROM and why you think it is needed. What are the main features and driving forces for providing this ROM?
- Ultimate Gaming Experience
- Super stability
- Super Compatibility
- Great Battery Duration
- Minimalistic User Interface (UI)
- Simple to use functionality
- Latest and coolest never seen before interface behavior
- Fully loaded with ultimate editions of absolutely everything
- Mobile Penetration Testing Platform
- or perhaps just for educational or experimental purposes etc...
- Up-to-date Maintenance:
That means an active developer (or group of) who are readily available to answer questions from users of all levels, new or advanced! Often that they should be inhumanly available at all times of the day & night!
- Up-to-date Firmware Release:
That means the the source of your ROM is preferably based on the latest, but publicly available code/firmware. Not on some hidden leaks or old hacked code. When I say "hidden leaks" here, I mean the kind where the origin of the code (compiled or not) cannot be verified or downloaded. (BMW doesn't make car/sales advertisements using 2 year old engines from unknown/secret sources!)
- Detailed CHANGE-LOG:
People want to know that what they flash on their phones, is as close as possible to what they would like to see and use. Also from a paranoia perspective most of us would like to know that it doesn't contain 3rd party or other strange applications that we will never use, or which will give us trouble when we want to add/update applications, at a later time. A description of the various applications is also very useful. Most people would wonder what the "DarkBotSendHelper.apk" is doing on a phone.
A change-log would ideally consist of a list with:
- Title: Change Date and the custom ROM Version the changes apply to
- Full application name
- Full application version
- Short application description
- Link to application source-code, if available
- Link to application on "Android Market"
- Reference to what hacks has been made, if any
- Reason for why the hack is needed
- Unresolved BUG-LOG:
A brief log of bugs and unresolved issues that affects the current release. It is hard to explain without cussing how annoying it is to flash a new ROM, just to find out that some WiFi issue has not yet been resolved, which was posted on page 456/1200! If people post bugs/issues, that cannot be immediately resolved, please add those issues to the BUG-LOG, on the front page.
- Screen Shots! Updated Screen Shots!
The importance of good screen shots can never be enough emphasized! Many ROMs are updated continuously and if the screen-shots doesn't match what the user installs, he's gonna go WTF!, and will start to peppering your support threads with questions about how to install this and that, and how to get the same themes you are using in those screenshots, or from another different ROM altogether! You wouldn't be able to sell a new BMW with a picture of an old Volvo, would you? So why do you think a ROM would be any different? Also include a brief caption about the essential feature(s) shown, for each picture.
- Detailed Installation Instructions
This hardly need more explanation apart for making sure you also say something about:
- WIPE/No-WIPE
- Bootloader Requirements
- Recommended Procedure
- Detailed Device Compatibility List
Yes, the same gross model name/number of a particular device, may very well have some minor variations that can render the device completely incompatible with software from it's apparent twin-brother. Or even certain Firmwares may not be compatible to slight manufacturing variation. See for example the "Samsung Galaxy S" with their sub-models GT-I9000(B/M/T), and to complicate things further, even within the same model there may be slight differences, like in the PCB of the USB-port of the SGS2 GT-I9100.
- Detailed Language Compatibility
What do people use their phones for? Communication! Sure, some use them as a game pad, but after all it is primarily a browsing and communication device. So if you can't use your primary languages with your device, it is useless! Although some network operators are only beginning to understand that most of the connected world is at least bi-lingual and often much more. Thus it is of essence that your phone's keyboard, screen-reader and web-browser can read, display and understand most characters and alphabets around. (I.e. I still fail to understand why it is virtually impossible to find a phone with Russian, English, Spanish and Norwegian keyboard layouts/character sets or at least let me select these my self!) In addition it is very confusing for a first-time ROM flasher to understand the need for all the various PDA/PHONE and CSC region settings, which are often modified and re-packaged for a well cooked ROM, and thus no longer adhere to the original regional code.
So when you cook your ROM, please provide as much information as possible regarding how the user can adapt their phone to his/her own languages. This information includes at least:
- What languages are available for basic operation (the operating system)
- What languages are available for the keyboard mappings
- What keyboard applications can use these languages (Swype, Samsung Keyboard etc.)
- Simple instructions how to include, use and set the phone languages
- List of Technical Terms and Definitions that describe the ROM
The world of mobile device development is packed by technical jargon and abbreviated terms. Many times they are also abbreviated and used in the wrong context, although some the community know what it means. Simplify your vocabulary and clearly define your terms and stay with community standard ones!
- General Presentation
Like any other business presentation, please skip the HUGE fonts in a zillion colors. Most of us are neither blind nor illiterate, but you may risk to come across as being both, with those type of fonts. Remember "KISS"? - Keep It Simple Stupid.
- SPELL CHECK!!
It's embarrassing and very annoying to read descriptions of how great, professional and how well maintained a particular ROM is, when the text is riddled with misspellings, wrong words and childish grammatical errors. Although most of us are very understanding that we are living in a multicultural and multilingual society, sometimes all I think about is, how a person who doesn't know how to spell check, could ever be able to cook a mobile phone ROM. Most text editors feature at least some basic spell checking, bloody hell, USE IT!
- CREDITS
Most of the Android development community is completely driven by voluntary and open source work. Make sure to include the correct credits to those persons who have contributed to the various info/hacks/software that you include in your ROM. Use a separate list for the credits, that include the name (handle) and how/what he/she did to contribute.
2 Good Examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350763
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155776
Final Words:
It is very likely I have missed something here, or that you (as a developer or moderator) disagree on something I have written here, if so, please provide your constructive comments how I can improve this list and post.
In Great Expectations and Hope for Many New Amazing ROMs!
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PS. This was posted in the "Developer Section" as it applies only to new ROM development threads, and I wouldn't consider this neither as "Q/A" nor "General". But if OP/MOD know of a better suited place, please just move it there...
Also I am not aware of a similar post to this one, even after searching XDA quite a lot. So if it already exists, it is not easy to find and should be reposted or stickied!
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The only thing that I missed so far is a thread like yours.
Agree on all requirements of released software.
Sometimes I wonder how some "devs" priorities are stacked regarding quality control vs. early delivery on pay-per-download sites.
Not sure what is best place for this thread. Counting # of posts in General asking Q already answered in stickies, it's kind of accepted to skip reading what's there. :-\
Perhaps keep it alive as hottest thread here?
Tapatalked - There's a Thanks button somewhere
I like this
One thing you must add while promoting your ROM.. That is CREDITS.
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One thing you must add while promoting your ROM.. That is CREDITS.
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YES! Not giving credit where due is horrible, basically just forgetting all the hard work another individual has put in to the "feature" of your ROM. Also, this should probably be in general.
Hi all, I have finally had enough of Apple (and planned obsolescence!). I have never used Android before, got myself a Galaxy Tab S and once I learn how to use it well, I will be dumping my faulty iPhone in favour of a Galaxy phone as well.
I bought a used Tab S with 4G in lovely condition. Just turned it on and it says Insert Sim. I skipped that and it said "Many features will not work without an active Sim".
Therefore the first question I have is how much to read into that message?! Do I believe it? I don\'t plan on using a data Sim, only want to use WiFi. Will the Tab S work just fine without a cellular SIM or is it going to give me constant errors and problems? If the latter I may have to sell it in favour of a non SIM version. Any advice appreciated. I quite like the idea of being ABLE to use a data SIM if I want to some time, hence why I bought it.
Second question is I DESPISE Google and all the tracking stuff. I use a VPN much of the time. A friend of mine has a Galaxy Tab and said I should "root" the device. Can anyone tell me the main benefits of doing so? I am trying to work out how necessary is it (as I am short of time so won't do it unless it will give me benefits). I intend to use VPN and try my best to prevent google tracking what I watch on youtube, what searches I do, and just about anything else I can. I also notice that for Earth and Maps to work, I obviously need to let it know my location (which I don't generally like doing but understand the trade off and will do it in this case). Is there a way (perhaps via rooting) to enable GPS location sharing without feeding GOOGLE my whereabouts (i.e. using other map software instead of Google's)?
I am blown away by the quality of this device. thanks for anyone who has time to offer their thoughts on the above. Thanks
Welcome to the real world, Neo!
SIM Card allows having such things like mobile data (this works just the same as the iPad LTE) and voice calls from a tablet (this feature is unique to Android - you can make voice calls just like it is a big phone, using either built-in mic and speakers or via Bluetooth headset). If the SIM is not inserted, there will be no problems - you can safely dismiss the warning.
Regarding the Google-free experience and rooting. Rooting is direct equivalent to iOS jailbreak. Both result in getting root shell (# or uid 0).
To root the Tab, you must flash the CF-Autoroot via Odin: https://www.theandroidsoul.com/root...10-5-lte-sm-t805-one-click-cf-auto-root-tool/ This is for 10.5 LTE aka SM-T805, for 8.4 LTE aka SM-T705 the instruction is similar: https://www.theandroidsoul.com/root...-8-4-lte-sm-t705-one-click-cf-auto-root-tool/
Also it is good to flash the TWRP recovery after you get root to get a rich recovery environment helping you to backup and restore your device, flash custom ROMs etc.nMore info here: https://twrp.me/FAQ/
Dont hesitate to ask questions once they arise.
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Ph, and forgot to mention Google free experience. Once you get root, you can debloat your stock ROM but I'd advise flashing a LineageOS ROM for newer Android version and latest security patches. Also, Google services are not present by default in LineageOs but can be flashed separately. However, I am already more than a year without Google services and apps.
For example, I use K-9 Mail + OpenKeychain from F-Droid open-source app market to use GMail with OpenPGP support.
F-Droid is the primary marketplace app having opensource applications. For closed-source apps available on Google Play, the open-source Google Play client app named Yalp Store offers the same functionality as play market but not requiring Google services.
Youtube client I use is Newpipe, opensource app available in F-Droid. There are other clients too, like SkyTube.
Google Maps can be replaced by OsmAnd+ - an opensource client for OpenStreetMap infrastructure, again available from F-Droid app store.
Office application suite I recommend is Hancom Office - it is free for Samsung devices, and it processes documents faster than Office365.
Also, I made it work on LineageOS and other custom ROMs.
I use Brave Browser as a primary Web browser, as it is opensource app based on Google Chromium code but heavily de-Googled and having some cool features like embedded ad-blocker.
Hope this helps you a bit.
gellmar said:
Welcome to the real world, Neo!
SIM Card allows having such things like mobile data (this works just the same as the iPad LTE) and voice calls from a tablet (this feature is unique to Android - you can make voice calls just like it is a big phone, using either built-in mic and speakers or via Bluetooth headset). If the SIM is not inserted, there will be no problems - you can safely dismiss the warning.
Regarding the Google-free experience and rooting. Rooting is direct equivalent to iOS jailbreak. Both result in getting root shell (# or uid 0).
To root the Tab, you must flash the CF-Autoroot via Odin: https://www.theandroidsoul.com/root...10-5-lte-sm-t805-one-click-cf-auto-root-tool/ This is for 10.5 LTE aka SM-T805, for 8.4 LTE aka SM-T705 the instruction is similar: https://www.theandroidsoul.com/root...-8-4-lte-sm-t705-one-click-cf-auto-root-tool/
Also it is good to flash the TWRP recovery after you get root to get a rich recovery environment helping you to backup and restore your device, flash custom ROMs etc.nMore info here: https://twrp.me/FAQ/
Dont hesitate to ask questions once they arise.
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Ph, and forgot to mention Google free experience. Once you get root, you can debloat your stock ROM but I'd advise flashing a LineageOS ROM for newer Android version and latest security patches. Also, Google services are not present by default in LineageOs but can be flashed separately. However, I am already more than a year without Google services and apps.
For example, I use K-9 Mail + OpenKeychain from F-Droid open-source app market to use GMail with OpenPGP support.
F-Droid is the primary marketplace app having opensource applications. For closed-source apps available on Google Play, the open-source Google Play client app named Yalp Store offers the same functionality as play market but not requiring Google services.
Youtube client I use is Newpipe, opensource app available in F-Droid. There are other clients too, like SkyTube.
Google Maps can be replaced by OsmAnd+ - an opensource client for OpenStreetMap infrastructure, again available from F-Droid app store.
Office application suite I recommend is Hancom Office - it is free for Samsung devices, and it processes documents faster than Office365.
Also, I made it work on LineageOS and other custom ROMs.
I use Brave Browser as a primary Web browser, as it is opensource app based on Google Chromium code but heavily de-Googled and having some cool features like embedded ad-blocker.
Hope this helps you a bit.
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Crikey!! Can't thank you enough for the time and effort there, what a great welcome to the other side
I confess most of what you said went straight over my head, ROMS and such like, but I will learn as there are clearly some great tips in this post.
So - fine without SIM, cool thanks.
Flashing - gonna take some time to learn but I think the link you posted is what I need, I have the SM-T800
So Lineage is an OS, is that right? And it comes free of Google bloatware/spyware?
I can't believe there are ways to view youtube and maps etc without giving Google your retinal scan. JUST what I hope to do!
Brave Browser - not heard of that, was gonna look for Firefox or Waterfox and set it up myself with RTC discabled, Ublockorigin etc etc (if poss) but maybe don't need to now as Brave sounds built to do what I want already.
Thanks again, great post
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Crikey!! Can't thank you enough for the time and effort there, what a great welcome to the other side
I confess most of what you said went straight over my head, ROMS and such like, but I will learn as there are clearly some great tips in this post.
So - fine without SIM, cool thanks.
Flashing - gonna take some time to learn but I think the link you posted is what I need, I have the SM-T800
So Lineage is an OS, is that right? And it comes free of Google bloatware/spyware?
I can't believe there are ways to view youtube and maps etc without giving Google your retinal scan. JUST what I hope to do!
Brave Browser - not heard of that, was gonna look for Firefox or Waterfox and set it up myself with RTC discabled, Ublockorigin etc etc (if poss) but maybe don't need to now as Brave sounds built to do what I want already.
Thanks again, great post
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Strange the T800 has no dedicated SIM slot, it is WiFi only. T805 does have a SIM card though. You can check it opening Settings - Phone info. Also you can use the dialer to enter a magic code *#1234# to get info about your firmware (pay attention to PDA and CSC values). Would be good if you provide these here before you start any flashing.
LineageOS is a community built distribution of Android OS (like Ubuntu or Debian are GNU/Linux distributions) with some additional tweaks like Privacy Guard (a framework giving you control about permissions application ask, like a consent or denial to read contacts, GPS location, phone number etc). Full disclosure: I am an official maintainer of LineageOS for SM-T805 and I belong to the team creating LineageOS for other devices on the same chipset, like SM-T800, SM-T705, SM-T700, SM-P600 etc. There are also ResurrectionRemix ROM based on LineageOS and also there are de-bloated stock ROMs based on latest available Android 6.0.1 official factory OS. The official LineageOS is based on Android 7.1.2, and there is a (not very stable) 8.1.0.
I was a long-term fan of Firefox on Android (and I still am on PC!), but Chromium engine is twice as fast on our tablet (90.08 for Brave vs 45.04 for Firefox in browser benchmark)
SORRY! The seller called it a T800 but I checked and yes it's a T805.
I am SO busy at the moment with work and family stuff, not sure when I can get round to this and it looks like I have a lot of learning to come which I am dreading a bit with my schedule as it is! Don't suppose there is any chance someone (if not yourself) on this forum offers any kind of service? By that I mean, I post the Tab with cash to cover the job, and someone roots it and does the things you have mentioned then post it back? Probably a bit too much wishful thinking, but if you don't ask.......
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SORRY! The seller called it a T800 but I checked and yes it's a T805.
I am SO busy at the moment with work and family stuff, not sure when I can get round to this and it looks like I have a lot of learning to come which I am dreading a bit with my schedule as it is! Don't suppose there is any chance someone (if not yourself) on this forum offers any kind of service? By that I mean, I post the Tab with cash to cover the job, and someone roots it and does the things you have mentioned then post it back? Probably a bit too much wishful thinking, but if you don't ask.......
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This can be done remotely via TeamViewer - you can be around and follow my commands like press home button etc. The rest is done via ADB on PC side. But write me in PM next week - I have some things to do that I promised before.
That's too kind of you. Not sure if you mean Teamviewer with the actual device or another computer. I am in no hurry at all. My device is factory stock right now, been reset and I am not doing anything with it for now.
Thanks again
I don't suppose (given your knowledge of privacy issues etc) you know of a secure alternative to Skype? I am talking mainly about a desktop app. I have researched many times over the past year and it seems to me that every time something decent gets going, they get shut down or just close down without much explanation. Sure seems suspicious in some cases. Best I could find was ViPole, which is good although has some weaknesses. I can't believe nobody has made something that can do the basic stuff Skype can do! (text, video/voice, screenshare and file share). It's so simple by today's standards! Of course plenty of options until you get to P2P or encryption, then there seems to be nothing which actually works very well at all! Just in case you know of anything?
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I don't suppose (given your knowledge of privacy issues etc) you know of a secure alternative to Skype? I am talking mainly about a desktop app. I have researched many times over the past year and it seems to me that every time something decent gets going, they get shut down or just close down without much explanation. Sure seems suspicious in some cases. Best I could find was ViPole, which is good although has some weaknesses. I can't believe nobody has made something that can do the basic stuff Skype can do! (text, video/voice, screenshare and file share). It's so simple by today's standards! Of course plenty of options until you get to P2P or encryption, then there seems to be nothing which actually works very well at all! Just in case you know of anything?
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Look for Signal and qTox.
Thanks. Tried and still use Signal, although it's got some flaws and not at all sure I trust the privacy side. I really need screenshare too which it doesn't have.
qtox and utox i have tried, tried all the tox chat programs. Completely buggy and unusable. Nice and secure though , which makes it a shame they can't make the software work properly! notifications dont work, cam, calls completely broken. unusable.
I looked at variuos others but it's all going over to apps for smartphones and tabs now, I want a desktop app. Maybe Skype through VPN would help a bit, but not ideal!
Thanks again
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Thanks. Tried and still use Signal, although it's got some flaws and not at all sure I trust the privacy side. I really need screenshare too which it doesn't have.
qtox and utox i have tried, tried all the tox chat programs. Completely buggy and unusable. Nice and secure though , which makes it a shame they can't make the software work properly! notifications dont work, cam, calls completely broken. unusable.
I looked at variuos others but it's all going over to apps for smartphones and tabs now, I want a desktop app. Maybe Skype through VPN would help a bit, but not ideal!
Thanks again
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To accelerate the process of bringing up the quality of opensource projects, one must at least report the bugs timely. Have you filed a feature request? We all donate either our money, or our time to the community. Some of us donate both
Ha, yes I do make reports whenever I spot anything. I am talking to one of the developers about it but I don't see it getting fixed as the impetus seems to have gone and no way they will add screenshare I dont think. I will try though yes, least I can do in the hope that someone produces something useful but not "in bed" with the government!
I'm currently owning a MTCE device. I'm a software developer (.NET). I'm a design and UX fetishist.
I see many folks of you have posted different apps, skins, mods, a.s.o. to get the best out of the headunit that is possible.
One problem I have seen is, that if I want to have a full working headunit, I will have to read thousand of forum-posts, try hundreds of software and then get stuck by a few apps that design is not fitting together.
Why isn't it possible, to join the forces to make a fully working ROM with preinstalled software that looks as if it was designed and made by the manufacturer? One design (maybe skinnable), one UX, selectable apps. So a newbie (like me) will get a fully functional headunit (including the basics like radio, DAB, mediaplayer, navigation, ...) that looks like factory-made with installing only the ROM.
Modern cars already have a well working headunit that has a seamless UI and UX between the different functions. Why shouldn't this be possible on our headunits?
I would suggest, that all of you developers, skinners, modders, should join your forces and create an experience for our headunits that will outreach the currently built-in headunits of modern cars.
What's wrong with hal9k or malaysk mod? They are fully working and in my opinion are better than original head unit from my car. You can even use google assistant, so you can control everything by your voice.
Maybe my mods will suit your needs?
Have a look at my channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/KoTiX71
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I'm currently owning a MTCE device. I'm a software developer (.NET). I'm a design and UX fetishist.
I see many folks of you have posted different apps, skins, mods, a.s.o. to get the best out of the headunit that is possible.
One problem I have seen is, that if I want to have a full working headunit, I will have to read thousand of forum-posts, try hundreds of software and then get stuck by a few apps that design is not fitting together.
Why isn't it possible, to join the forces to make a fully working ROM with preinstalled software that looks as if it was designed and made by the manufacturer? One design (maybe skinnable), one UX, selectable apps. So a newbie (like me) will get a fully functional headunit (including the basics like radio, DAB, mediaplayer, navigation, ...) that looks like factory-made with installing only the ROM.
Modern cars already have a well working headunit that has a seamless UI and UX between the different functions. Why shouldn't this be possible on our headunits?
I would suggest, that all of you developers, skinners, modders, should join your forces and create an experience for our headunits that will outreach the currently built-in headunits of modern cars.
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I exactly know what you are talking about.
Whether malaysk nor Hal9k are the greatest thing since sliced bread and do not fulfill what I and you @RolandE1204 are expecting.
A common UI with same buttons and same background, coordinated in function and visibility would be awsome.
...but..... and now we have the main issue:
All firmware are made of apps from different developers and are just bundled in the firmware. This leads automatically to different UI for each single app.
You won´t get a navigation app which fits any other UI. You won´t get a player app fitting the UI of your launcher. If you would want this, each single app needs to get developed or at least adapted to a UI.... None will do that and as far as I know there is no possibility to create a common UI which adapts 3rd party applications. Each app has it´s own one.
This is one of the benefits of an OEM unit. There you have to pay a lot more and it is not configurable at all, because it is completely closed.... but with a common interface...
That's right ... but does it have to be like that?
@rigattoni You're absolutely correct. But does it have to be this way? Here at xda-developers are all the guys (and girls) that do the best work like malaysk, hal and many others that do very great work.
With a little more work together, there could be a complete solution that would not also work but also look great.
I may think too simple but there has to be a design and UX guideline, that has to be created and every application that will be developed using this guideline, will fit nearly seamless into the bundle of all other apps.
Also I'm sure that there are also som people like me, owning a slightly older car that hasn't built in a headunit with such functions. I like my car (Peugeot 308CC) and would buy it again but I wanted to add functionality that hasn't been in (rear drive camera, good working navigation, ...).
Just to clarify: I'm not searching for a free solution and I understand that this means a lot of work that can mainly be done by enthusiasts, but I'm also willing to pay for a solution that works and looks like a charm. So I think that even if we are talking about different applications that work together seamless, I am sure that there are people like me, who are willing to pay money for this.
I'm currently living with a mediaplayer (poweramp [blue]) that has a different behaviour and look like the radio (stock [black/white]) and a navigation app (magic earth [orange]) that also doesn't fit in. Other applications (TPMS, Bluetooth-Calling, Car-Status) are also looking very different.
I know that there are persons doing great work in modifying roms and apps but they all have their different design-language. So why not using a centralized design and UX language and creating a bundle of software that makes every owner of an android headunit as proud as he can be?
Do we get these devs together to work on one version with a common UI?
I would love everything to look similar, but I would settle for great looking apps that look different. Like that guy who posted the youtube link - nice radio app, but would look for a different music app
kmlnvm said:
What's wrong with hal9k or malaysk mod? They are fully working and in my opinion are better than original head unit from my car. You can even use google assistant, so you can control everything by your voice.
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Yes, confused, malysk and hal9k are already this way. Perhaps OP wants to define look and feel.
Perhaps too, OP might not understand that source code to the MTCD units has not been released and that to a large extent work is by reverse engineering?
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Do we get these devs together to work on one version with a common UI?
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Sure, how would you do that?
@marchnz: It was just a question. Nothing else to be interpreted into this question...
I'm aware
@marchnz: I'm aware that reverse engineering is hard work. I've already done this by myself (as I said, I'm a .NET developer).
I'm not into developing android software but I'm sure it is a lot of work too.
As long as I do have the commitment of some developers that they want to follow design guidelines, I'm able to create some. What I don't want to do is, to create guidelines that nobody is considering. Also I do not want to patronize someone. So if someone commits that he wants to use guidelines and has a definitive app in mind he wants to work on, we can work out guidelines.
Maybe first of all invite some developers:
@jamal2367
@Malaysk
@Hal9k_
@mike.b
@f1x
im sorry I didnt get your meaning
whats the plan?
i'm a developer I mean what are we going to do?
can you explain more clear?
What has to be done is to unify the UI and UX of all the major apps that are needed.
The best would even be to make them skinnable.
So there is a need to create a common UI for
- Radio
- Media-Player
- Bluetooth (Calling)
- Vehicle (Doors, Trunk, ...)
What I already can say is, that there will be a skinnable version of magic earth (navigation) in the near future.
Also it would be nice if during this process, some smaller issues of a software can be fixed. (ie. Radio looses the station-names on reboot and only shows frequencies)
Anyone who will contribute on this project, please leave a message or send me a PM.
RolandE1204 said:
What has to be done is to unify the UI and UX of all the major apps that are needed.
The best would even be to make them skinnable.
So there is a need to create a common UI for
- Radio
- Media-Player
- Bluetooth (Calling)
- Vehicle (Doors, Trunk, ...)
What I already can say is, that there will be a skinnable version of magic earth (navigation) in the near future.
Also it would be nice if during this process, some smaller issues of a software can be fixed. (ie. Radio looses the station-names on reboot and only shows frequencies)
Anyone who will contribute on this project, please leave a message or send me a PM.
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Hey
If you are interested in a radio player that runs over the internet then have a look here!
GitHub: https://github.com/jamal2362/URL-Radio
Download: https://jamal2367.org/downloads/?dir=Apps/URL Radio
You could install it on your mobile phone and use the app in landscape format and see what it looks like on the MTCE.
jamal2367 said:
Hey
If you are interested in a radio player that runs over the internet then have a look here!
GitHub: https://github.com/jamal2362/URL-Radio
Download: https://jamal2367.org/downloads/?dir=Apps/URL Radio
You could install it on your mobile phone and use the app in landscape format and see what it looks like on the MTCE.
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I've never written about a radio that works over the internet.
Hello! I am a developer of CHESTER WATCH FACE, I made a new application to bring all the developers and users of the watch faces in one place, so that everyone is comfortable and useful. The features of this application are that everything has been done there for your convenience, both for developers and users.
Features:
1. The application has several sections, such as: all watch faces, paid, free, and which are distributed by coupons - this makes it easier for the user to find a suitable watch face.
2. The application has a built-in coupon generator, which can be used by every developer and user. Also, it is very convenient for users, no longer have to scroll through a large list with coupons in search of your country and sort through coupons in search of unused. Also, for the convenience of developers, it is made so that you do not have to edit your file with coupons before downloading. You upload the coupon file from the Samsung seller’s portal and can immediately upload it to the coupon generator on boxfaces.com so that users can easily take these coupons in the application, in the coupon generator.
3. The application has built-in dynamic links, which means that it is possible to share watch faces. If you sent a link to the watch face to users, then the user, clicking on it, will go to the page in the application of this watch face and where the user can easily take a coupon for it and go to GalaxyStore to use it and download the watch face. If the user does not have the application installed and clicks on the link, the link will transfer him to the Google Play page and ask him to install this application. It is very convenient for developers to distribute their work and for users to share their favorite watch face with other users.
5. Adding watch faces takes place via https://boxfaces.com. The site is made specifically for developers, everything is simple and clear.
6. The application will be constantly updated and new features will be added. For example, there are plans to create a separate section for developers, where users can choose their own watch face for developers, this will increase downloads for the developer and simplify the search for the desired watch face for the user. It is also planned to make a section with video reviews of watch faces from the Jibber Jab Review - I think this is also very convenient. In general, I still have a lot of ideas and I will try to implement them as soon as possible ...
I will be very glad to see the new dials of the developers, and new users in the application!
Now the application is already available in the Galaxy Store, for Samsung phones at the link: http://apps.samsung.com/appquery/appDetail.as?appId=com.my.boxfaces
Google Play Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.my.boxfaces
All absolutely free! Everything is done for your convenience!
Friends, hello everyone! A new update for Box Faces is out!
The new release adds:
1. The application is released in 5 languages: English, Russian, German, Spanish, French.
2. Removed "CHESTER WATCH FACES" button in the main menu.
3. Added section "DEVELOPERS", which includes all developers.
4. Added statistics for active devices. (number of active users)
5. Added the ability to add videos to watch faces.
We are waiting for all developers and users in the new version of the application! ?
SO I read like a week ago that in the Android 12 CDD there are guidelines on the possibility to clone certain apps such as Messenger, Whatsapp, etc. https://www.xda-developers.com/android-12-clone-profile-native-app-cloning-support/
Has anybody been able to find how exactly you would do that?
Yes, I'd be interested to know as well - seems that the new feature is just in development and not actually available
Agreed. I haven't seen any more news about this since last October, and the last paragraphs in the article made it sound buggy in testing, and not available officially yet at the time:
However, as Mishaal further clarifies, it isn’t clear if the new profile will work in Android 12 out of the box. Creating a Clone profile doesn’t seem to be supported right now and there’s no flow for cloning apps or differentiating them in Android 12. In its current state, the feature seems to be incredibly buggy. As Luca Stefani found out, the Clone profile is seen by the launcher as a work profile and it randomly clones installed apps when created.
At the moment, we don’t have any further information about the new Clone profile. We’ll make sure to let you know as soon as we learn more. Until then, if you wish to install multiple instances of an app on your Pixel device, you can use a third-party app like Parallel Space.
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Could try island it clones apps you want
Hi everyone Island app for work profile are working on pixel 6 pro
Ye I been using island for a while I had to use it with a Sony I had before the pixel