I had an AutoPumpkin RK3188 in my last car that I recently sold. I loved the HU, but I could not stand the 30-second startup time. An aftermarket radio should be like the stock one, instant-on.
The last time I *****ed on here about it, I was told "well, that's a normal amount of time for an Android device to boot." I call BS that the head unit should have to 'boot' at all, except when power is first applied. I can put my phone, with a tiny battery, on standby and get 7+ days of standby time, and still get instant-on as soon as I press the power button. With a car battery to draw on, the Android units should be able to go into low power for months without draining the battery. It's just a matter of turning off all the accessories like amplifiers and radios when the unit stands-by (say, by internally powering them from the ignition line instead of the always-hot line, or via a relay triggered by the ign).
So, has any manufacturer gotten to the point where the Android standby mode is properly implemented, and turning on the key brings the unit out of standby immediately? I've been looking through some threads and it looks like it's more of the same, even here nearly a year later.
Lol. My initial reaction is what you were told last time.
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I am aware that the problem with my XDA IIs is similar to other malfunctions described within this forum, however often those posts appear to be left unanswered. In order not to incur the wrath of the administrator therefore, I seek clarification and therefore I consider that I'm not duplicating any prior posts.
I acquired an XDA IIs from my son last year - the screen was cracked, the device wouldn't turn on and there was no charging cradle or lead. About six months ago I bought a usb sync/charging cable and a screen from mobilefun (described as "new" but wasn't - I complained but couldn't be ar**d to return the thing) and this week purchased a replacement battery from ebay. Now before you all shout 'caveat emptor' I wanted to do this as cheaply as possible.
I duly plugged the thing into my laptop anticipating joy and smug satisfaction; unfortunately I have only encountered misery.
The device pings, the amber led and the backlight for the screen come on (although there is nothing evident on the screen - did I pay 30 quid for a cumbersome torch) and everything looks rosy for approximately 10 minutes. Then the led turns red, the backlight switches off and it remains dormant for about 10 minutes. This cycle continues ad nauseum.
I have active sync and when the xda is in amber mode I can "see" the device on my laptop and I can communicate (synchronise) with it. So what is the problem(s)? Is the new battery a dud and a salutary lesson in why we get what we pay for? Should I be concerned that the screen lights up but displays nothing and therefore regret not returning the screen to mobile fun? Is the internal battery OK - if I change it will it have an impact upon my charging tribulations?
I hope that you can appreciate that I am loathe to spend any more money on this thing but having made an investment I'm also reluctant to bin it. Help the noob oh great ones.
first of all, welcome to the forum
interesting things happening there.
from the distance my first spontaneous reaction was "the battery and the display must be broken", which, after 3 times reading your post didn't really change despite the gigantic coincidence.
what you can try first of all is: install MyMobiler to your pc, which uses the activesync connection to connect remotely to the device and gives out the screen on the pc screen, where you can control your device with keyboard and mouse. that is always a good start, in case the display does not work or has no touch function any more...
http://mymobiler.com/
if that works out for you and you can see the screen, you can say for certain, that the device's screen is not really ok. the next thing to test would be the digitizer then.
you didn't write, whether you bought a complete display bundle or just the real screen, so let's test the touch function. i case you had seen a proper screen with mymobiler, try tapping and tapping and holding with the actual stylus on the actual screen while cradled and look at the screen's reaction in mymobiler, if the touch function works, you should be able to control the device, which would probably mean "get a new screen, digitizer is fine".
about the battery: since you don't really know what state the phone is in and how good the battery actually is, you should try and take out the battery connect the external power source to the cradle and load the battery in the back of the cradle. you know my device with wi-fi on for instance consumes more power, than can be loaded via usb, so after a little while, though connected to power with the amber led lighting up, the device will turn off. not with a red flash like described by you, but still...
if you load the battery to the max in the back of the cradle, take it out for say, half an hour and jam it back in, the orange led should turn green again in less than a minute, since no power was consumed, if that works out, you can then put the battery back in the device and then cradle it normally and see, whether it turns off again after 10 minutes.
the point is, all this does not really help you, i know that, but it can give you ideas on how to test the flaws and determine what really is wrong with the device. maybe you did not buy a broken screen and broken battery, maybe the device is so screwed, it destroys them itself. or maybe these testing methods give you a greater insight on what to test and maybe then you can confront the retailers responsible for that and prove it is their fault. i am sorry to hear about your device, without it working you are missing out on a great mobile experience.
greetz
Chef_Tony
Deep joy coupled with intense fury
Chef Tony - you are indeed a genius and I humbly bask in your glory. I've downloaded mymobiler and it displayed my screen which naturally needed to be aligned as I have put in a new screen and digitizer. It would appear that the digitizer is fine but the screen must be kaput.
I repeat that salutary lesson kids - if you purchase something described as new from a retailer and subsequently discover that it isn't, don't complain about it and then expect the Returns Elf to despatch the suspicious item back to the offending company. Do it yourself or bemoan the day that you couldn't be bothered to send it back to the company.
As for the battery I'm awaiting a different charger (I don't have a cradle only USB sync cable) but as I've mentioned previously I'm loathe to spend any more money so this might all be academic.
Thanks again
Buying from eBay is what 90% of ppl do here, it is not only a cheap way out, but the ONLY source for many replacement parts. Nothing wrong with that mate. eBay is actually also more expensive than numerous online wholesale sites for certain phone areas too.
Both my colleague and I have a new Touch Pro 2 WWE Rhodium since about 2 months.
My colleague was, since he has the telephone complaining about very short battery life. Mine lasts easily 7 days in regular use (now shorter because 24/7 direct pushmail connection). His battery is completely drained within 24 hours.
We contacted the dealer and they have ordered a brand new battery for him. He tried the new battery and I now have his "bad" battery in my phone. But his battery is still dead within 24 hours and in my phone it lasts 'forever'.....
Today I offered to upgrade both phones firmware to make sure all settings were cleared and both phones are configured exactly identical!
Well. I first went to go give both phones a cold boot (call+end+power > vol up). On my phone works perfectly, but my colleagues phone does not respond to the VOL UP button, it completely freezes and does not respond to any button, so I have to pull out the battery. Tried it over at least 20 times!
At last I just updated both firmwares which went OK, but even after that the COLD RESET is not possible.
Finally I found out the END/HOME button didn't respond. My colleague just always used the on-screen end button, so you couldn't accidentally skip the option to create a call note.
After that I tried to get into the COLD reset screen by only using the CALL + POWER button, and that worked!
To make a long story short, the phone is now going back for service. It's a plain DOA and I am positive this is related to the battery drain problem. His phone gave very high "device usage" durations.
PS. Why the long story? At the end when typing this thread I found the cause of this problem. I was hoping someone could point me to the solution but I found it myself.
My final little question is: Is this a common problem with this type of phone or is my colleague just plain unlucky? Do I have to worry about the buttons of my phone? My HTC TyTN buttons broke down on me twice and once on my colleagues phone.
7 DAYS??????!??
Amazing... mine wont last more than 8 hours with gprs connected 24/7, 1 push exchange account, 2 push yahoo account with seven, 2 hours call, 100+ emails a day, IM+.
Can you give details what apps running in your phone?
Maybe he uses his phone way more than you? I use mine a lot and if I was away from a charger for 24 hours it for sure wouldn't make it.
Sorry but B.S. on going 7 days , It won't do that in standby.
I just had to warranty my phone tonight because the end key is dead on my phone. I have the Verizon version and the end key is actually a combination button that is also the power key. It acts like its stuck down so when the phone boots it immediately tries to turn itself off and i have to watch it boot so i can select "No" to the power off question. After that I get zero response from the key. I know it works though because if I pull the battery out I can turn the phone on with it. Hopefully these are isolated and this doesn't become a common problem with these phones because I love it otherwise.
Thanks,
Ben
Do you have the Touch Pro 2 or the Imagio? Doesn't the Verizon Touch Pro 2 have the power button on top like all the other ones?
its the verizon touch pro 2 and no the power button is long press end key and the top button is only used to turn the screen off.
Yeah that's true. It works differently for the Verizon TP2 just as the guy above me has mentioned.
You should have given this post a different name, along the lines of " hardware button issues " or something like that. You might have gotten more feedback from the community.
I got mine a couple of weeks ago (at&t branded tilt 2) and it's pretty damn solid. My Business partner has had the telus world phone version for a little while now and no problems there, as well my friend bought one of the European models (htc branded Touch Pro II) a while back and he has no issues with his.
The battery thing is definitely normal, my tilt II barely survives a day. Seven day's is ridiculous.
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its the verizon touch pro 2 and no the power button is long press end key and the top button is only used to turn the screen off.
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That is how they all are. The top button puts the phone to sleep like any other phone. Turning the phone off actually turns it off, no incoming calls or messages.
That's weird that Verizon uses the End Key to power the phone on and off.
The Tilt 2 has it as Silence, which is what every single HTC phone I've used in the past, despite carrier, has had it as.
I don't think anyone should realistically expect this phone to last more than a day unless it's used for nothing but text messaging and an occasional phone call (let's face it, there are people who SHOULD have a dumbphone texter like a Rumor2 but insist on having this phone because it's great looking and expensive). Smartphones, in general, last 24 hours and should be charged when you get home. I mean it's a miracle if my Palm Pre can last two days.
Until battery technology catches up I advise getting really friendly with your charger and/or dock
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That is how they all are. The top button puts the phone to sleep like any other phone. Turning the phone off actually turns it off, no incoming calls or messages.
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that is not the way they all are. I have a TMoUSA TP2 and the top button is clearly marked power and if you hold it pressed it will turn the device off. If you just tap it it will, as you say, put the phone to "sleep". (Turn the screen off). BTW I have no problems with any buttons so far and going on two months. None of my previous HTC devicces gave me trouble either.
I have noticed that when I am using my EVO in the car for GPS + bluetooth + charging, it can get quite warm. Especially when its sitting in direct sun. Several times now while it's sitting in my cup holder it has started blinking the LED rapidly. I checked the battery temp in the battery app I run and it was approaching 50 degrees Celsius. What is a reasonable cut off temp that I can set an audible warning with so I notice next time it starts getting really hot? 49C ? What is considered the point where an EVO is "too hot"?
Also, on a potentially related note, the EVO will often crash and restart when I'm using GPS + voice communication (on a call) + BT + charging. This seems to be the required combination of multi-tasking to replicate the restart. I do this a LOT in my car with work so I have easily replicated it several times. I called Sprint and talked with advanced tech support. Once I described the specific problem he essentially offered to send a replacement phone with almost no resistance. This led me to believe its potentially a common/known issue internally at Sprint. Once I said a few magic words (voice and GPS simultaneously), he seemed to acknowledge it was a valid issue he had some experience seeing. They replaced a 0003 unit with a hardware version 0004 unit. Unfortunately, the issue still occurs. However, it doesn't seem to necessarily be heat related as the phone isn't always hot when it happens and I don't get rapid LED lights like when it has gotten really hot. All battery use has been the normal stock battery in both hardware versions.
Background info:
For testing purposes I am using stock Sprint rom fully updated, rooted. All standard radio/kernal, etc. No overclocking or anything like that.
I do all those Multitasking things all the time. It has never crashed/rebooted, in fact I don't recall ever having a random reboot.
I rarely have it in direct sunlight, I use a ProClip most of the time (which does allow a lot of air all around it).
It does get warm doing GPS, Charging and BT Voice Call. And it barely keeps up charging while GPS Navigation is going.
It might be your charger is allowing it to charge faster than it can handle.
I run MikGinger now and ran NonSense ROM for while.
My BT is always a little flakey though. If I make a call, hang up and wait and make another voice dial call it will all work fine. If I hang up and immediately make another call the phone will disconnect headset and leave Voice Prompt on Screen. If I clear screen and click headset again it reconnects fine and all is good. Every ROM has done this including CM7, Stock and Leaked based ones.
I had this same issue on my original phone. Doing anything in the car while it charged caused it to reboot. Even after being off and cooling down, I could get it to reboot by quickly scrolling up and down in the browser. My phone would just get warmer and warmer, then reboot.
I got them to give me a replacement, and all has been fine after that. It's a white Evo, HW rev 0004. I'd recommend getting another replacement. You shouldn't have to sacrifice doing what you want in order to keep your phone running. I can now have my phone charging on a hot day while getting GPS instructions and listening to Pandora. I don't have any bluetooth stuff, but I imagine I could do that as well.
Hi,
I have the gen 1 Moto 360 and I've used it pretty consistently since I got it shortly after release. I've recently started having a strange problem - if I turn the watch off (the whole thing through Settings, not the screen), it won't boot. It'll go through the Motorola "M" screen and then start on the Android Wear boot animation, but always crashes there. The screen turns off suddenly without any visible glitches or errors. I can do this all day long and it always crashes in the boot animation, though not always at the same time in it. On the other hand, if I place it in the charger (regardless of how much charge the battery has), it will automatically start booting and will make it all the way through no problem. I've tried booting through Recovery and even doing a Factory Reset but nothing seems to work other than putting it on the charger (which isn't terribly conventient unless I'm at home).
Based on some of the other threads I'm seeing this is probably a fairly minor problem (fairly easy to just not turn the watch off), but does anyone have any ideas on how to fix it (or even why putting it in the charger makes it work)?
Thanks!
Same problem being discussed here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/help/frustrated-360-off-randomly-t3198154
this exact problem occurred with my first moto360. moto replaced it as though it were still under warranty. the replacement watch is now starting to do the same thing. looks like it is just due to battery age, like their hardware that is designed to prevent it from turning on with a "low" battery is reading it wrong. Android Wear is just unstable enough so that some days Wear doesn't respond and eventually ends with a reboot which means OFF until back at charger, even with 80-90% battery!
i had this exact problem. it was a dodgy battery, i opened the watch up and replaced the battery. Since then it has been good
Finding a good quality WX30 battery in August 2018
Are you able to share where you sourced a 'good' WX30 battery from?
I've been happy with my Moto 360 Gen 1 for exactly 2 years, until a couple of weeks ago when all the classic battery problems started (random shutdowns after a couple of hours, still 70% left, slightly bulging back). I've succeeded in learning how to get out the 4 clips, disassemble and reassemble the body, kudos = search for YouTube 'easy Moto 360 batery replacement video'.
Unless anyone has any good tips, I'm about to play the eBay battery lottery. Motorola has confirmed to me that they do not sell the batteries separately. Typical.
jonno66 said:
Are you able to share where you sourced a 'good' WX30 battery from?
I've been happy with my Moto 360 Gen 1 for exactly 2 years, until a couple of weeks ago when all the classic battery problems started (random shutdowns after a couple of hours, still 70% left, slightly bulging back). I've succeeded in learning how to get out the 4 clips, disassemble and reassemble the body, kudos = search for YouTube 'easy Moto 360 batery replacement video'.
Unless anyone has any good tips, I'm about to play the eBay battery lottery. Motorola has confirmed to me that they do not sell the batteries separately. Typical.
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I have literally changed mine this morning... So far so good, no random dying at 70%+ and I ordered this one... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163139641091
I doubt its genuine. its is 330mAh not 300mAh and is from a different manufacturer, however, its worth a tenner to see what happens! Also, how easy is the dissassembly fromt hat video, I watched the exact same one. was in peices in 10 minutes and back together quicker!
Platypus222 said:
Hi,
I have the gen 1 Moto 360 and I've used it pretty consistently since I got it shortly after release. I've recently started having a strange problem - if I turn the watch off (the whole thing through Settings, not the screen), it won't boot. It'll go through the Motorola "M" screen and then start on the Android Wear boot animation, but always crashes there. The screen turns off suddenly without any visible glitches or errors. I can do this all day long and it always crashes in the boot animation, though not always at the same time in it. On the other hand, if I place it in the charger (regardless of how much charge the battery has), it will automatically start booting and will make it all the way through no problem. I've tried booting through Recovery and even doing a Factory Reset but nothing seems to work other than putting it on the charger (which isn't terribly conventient unless I'm at home).
Based on some of the other threads I'm seeing this is probably a fairly minor problem (fairly easy to just not turn the watch off), but does anyone have any ideas on how to fix it (or even why putting it in the charger makes it work)?
Thanks!
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I have the same problem
I leave it charging for 5 to 10 minutes and it will boot up but it also crashes and shuts down itself
I feel like the watch is selfaware
I need help
Thanks
I don't understand why it's so hard on the battery.
It is bad. I guess because it's projecting your phone's screen while still using the phone? Definitely make sure it's set to optimized in battery. I had it set to unrestricted on my 4xl because it would take forever to start, and it was always running. I had to charge my phone a second time during the day. Didn't realize that was the problem until I got my 6 pro. I'm still getting a full day on one charge on my 6 pro though.
I look forward to one day having a vehicle with a factory head unit that supports wireless Android Auto. For short trips, makes sense. For longer trips, I'd probably want to plug it in, anyway.