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Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
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i'm getting average 3½ days on Z1C.
Already have super stable Rom and kernel and Soundmod.
Now S5 mini has no rom nor kernel so you have to wait for it.
As my previous phone was Galaxy S4 i can say the TouchWiz is complete trash and the Knox is another huge PITA for developers and for flashers.
There is even more bloat on S5 omg.
The only reason i accidentally bought Galaxy S4 was because it provided so many features which seemed like a good deal but they all were useless and drained battery.
The Z1 compact is the first phone after nokia 3310 i am totally satisfied with.
For exclusivity and quality go for Z1c OR Z3 Compact.
Z1 compact, much better.....
Lowmick said:
Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
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The S5 Mini rocks an Exynos 3, for which open source is practically non-existant. If you're gonna be rocking custom ROMs, definitely get a Z1 Compact.
Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
rob rich said:
Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
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Agree totally!
Z1 compact
My answer wil be very clear: Z1 compact.
as you said, better specs, better Price, what do you want more?
Also it's almost identical to Sony's Z1, so, many options for modding and cross device roms that will work flawlessly.
And with the Z3 goodies coming, I presume very soon we will be having 4k and 120fps shooting as well as AR effects etcétera.
fritsprive said:
And with the Z3 goodies coming, I presume very soon we will be having 4k and 120fps shooting as well as AR effects etcétera.
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We have 4K and 120fps and AR mod for a real long time .........
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Lowmick said:
Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
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S5 mini and Z1c is almost same price here in HK now because Z3c is going to out next week in HK. I'll say Z1c is a much better choice overall with much faster CPU/GPU, 512MB more memory, 200mah more battery, much more mods available from big brother Z1 or Z1c board, MHL supported, 4K recording with mod, water protection.
S5 Mini on the other hand got 0.2" larger screen, IR blaster and more light weight. So, it really depends do you need the 0.2" screen and IR to remote your TV.
The previous of Sony design on Arc and Xperia S is much better without doubt but I found the Sony' s OmniBalance design is quite good on Z1 Compact, OmniBalance is very ugly on big phone like Z1/Z2 I've to admit it but it looks okay on a compact phone.
TheEndHK said:
We have 4K and 120fps and AR mod for a real long time .........
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Yes, you are right but I have also read that with 4.4.4 the mod doesn't work as well as with 4.4.2 for reason of the old libs from the Z2 that this mod is using. They are now working very hard with the Z3 fw download to improve this.
And yes we have AR effects, but the Z3 has much more of them with more fun etcétera.
Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
cheetah2k said:
Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
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Software issue and can be solved. Others have had the issue (even me when flashing other ROMs) and we're fixed through flashing the a new ROM through recovery or Sony's tool.
I'm sorry your wife's z1c is doing that but don't paint a picture that every z1c does this.
hol17 said:
Software issue and can be solved. Others have had the issue (even me when flashing other ROMs) and we're fixed through flashing the a new ROM through recovery or Sony's tool.
I'm sorry your wife's z1c is doing that but don't paint a picture that every z1c does this.
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Software issue that can be solved?? Why haven't sony solved it already???????????? LOL :laugh:
My wife has had 2 of these phones, the first the sound and vibration stopped working after a week and the camera did the same thing!!
Looking at the forums the camera issue is very common especially those on 4.4.4!!
Go for Z1 compact or if ur pocket allows go for z3 compacr.
cheetah2k said:
Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
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S5 camera works but not S5 mini, their cameras are totally different. Z1c focus speed is slow, really no good for taking photo for kids. Not sure about Z3c at this moment. Indeed, I believe HTC M8 got the fastest focus speed among android, good for your wife.
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S5 camera works but not S5 mini, their cameras are totally different. Z1c focus speed is slow, really no good for taking photo for kids. Not sure about Z3c at this moment. Indeed, I believe HTC M8 got the fastest focus speed among android, good for your wife.
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The whole point of my wife wanting the Z1C is for a few reasons. Flagship specs, high pixel camera for the great photos Sony said it would take (I find the focus speed just fine - when it works), water resistant so it can handle the spills and thrills of being a parent with young kids, and being a compact similar size to iPhone 5S (we are an android family btw). For that its perfect - except for the god dam freezing!!
Regarding the HTC M8, sure great focus speed but seriously rubbish 4MP photos you cant even zoom into. I'm not really a HTC fan either after owning the M7 :good:
I had the freeze issue a number of time. But the phone just resolve itself, miss that moment, but kids being kids there are other moments. comparing results from the photos I got no qualms as it is much better then my previous phones. I bought this mainly for the battery and so far it does not dissapoints
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55272916&postcount=2604
If you guys got root, try flash this stuff in recovery. After that, my whole z1c including camera is faster. Remember to backup before flash.
rob rich said:
Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
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Agree with you!
Hey All
Just picked up my new G3 (Yay!!) after Finally trading in my S5 and that Touchwiz .
As great as the camera is on the G3, for me.. it needs a few more controls.. so, can anyone advise on a camera or Photography app on the Play Store or a dlownload with a few Manual controls, such as:
Exposure, White Balance (WB), ISO, Metering (Centre Weighted, Spot, Matrix) and any other controls.. also a few filters would be nice.
I dont mind paying for the app.. as long as it works well with the G3s camera.
Many Thanks
A better camera is pretty good, that's what I'm using
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A better camera is pretty good, that's what I'm using
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Thanks for the reply.. I tried it, Nice app,.. Ill test it a bit more and report back. I do love the G3 and its camera and I can see why LG went for the minimalist approach, however, a very small critisism is that the camera tends to over-expose just a little sometimes, hence, why ide like an Exposure (EV) setting.
Any more suggestions are greatly appreciated
Thanks
You tried Xcam?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/app-xcam-lg-v5-1-0-t2873604
Hello
I'm going to buy this phone. but I've heard various descriptions of quality mobile photography ( Elephone p8000)
I need to have a few pictures under various conditions
I finished so I can take your pick.
Please take a few photos taken with a camera in here to share in different lighting conditions
Thank you
saba_mehdy said:
Hello
I'm going to buy this phone. but I've heard various descriptions of quality mobile photography ( Elephone p8000)
I need to have a few pictures under various conditions
I finished so I can take your pick.
Please take a few photos taken with a camera in here to share in different lighting conditions
Thank you
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I can tell you that the camera is good in the daylight but very poor for low light?
Oh yeah... The macro is terrible(read no macro) since the 05112015 update till today. Except from that the phone is very very very good. Especially if you have Eragon custom rom! But if the camera is no. 1 thing for you buy m2 or wowney...
dkzg said:
I can tell you that the camera is good in the daylight but very poor for low light?
Oh yeah... The macro is terrible(read no macro) since the 05112015 update till today. Except from that the phone is very very very good. Especially if you have Eragon custom rom! But if the camera is no. 1 thing for you buy m2 or wowney...
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Pretty much this.
Camera takes pretty OK pictures in good light, terrible pictures in low light and doesn't macro well.
If you are looking for a good and reliable camera, you should look elsewhere (and spend more, most likely).
Camera is decent for a China mobile phone.
Sometimes the edges are a bit blurry but it's okay.
And in my opinion low light pictures are decent as well.
I mean it's the same sensor as the one inside the Galaxy S4 but the software is not well adapted to the sensor with our P8000.
Look at THIS POST HERE
I have no issues with Macros at all. Not with the "workaround" and not without. :good:
dkzg said:
I can tell you that the camera is good in the daylight but very poor for low light?
Oh yeah... The macro is terrible(read no macro) since the 05112015 update till today. Except from that the phone is very very very good. Especially if you have Eragon custom rom! But if the camera is no. 1 thing for you buy m2 or wowney...
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The phone has quality problems. The camera is slow (focus lock) and failed while using apps like Whatsapp.
The operating system loader has bugs.
Im using Eragon and HTC camera app. I can beautiful pictures. But to focus takes a little long. I'm hoping Android marsmellow release from elephone brings some improvement. But I definitely recommend this phone but only if you use a custom ROM it's so much beter then the stock ROM
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saba_mehdy said:
Hello
I'm going to buy this phone. but I've heard various descriptions of quality mobile photography ( Elephone p8000)
I need to have a few pictures under various conditions
I finished so I can take your pick.
Please take a few photos taken with a camera in here to share in different lighting conditions
Thank you
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hi @saba_mehdy . are you from iran ?! i bought this phone and i use this for 1 month . if you want to know about my experience and you are iranian too , contact with me for easier correspondence in sweet persian language
and also my phone camera work very well . it work for me beyond of my expect . i upload some photos taken by myself .
links :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdTjFVaWM2cXBYQVk/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdMWVvV3lVQXU5ams/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdek1mYm52QVpZd2M/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdRE9pY09rLW1fMkE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdRjBtaXBKQTVteDQ/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdb0Jha2plb05tdm8/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdUkdYaW82d2sxUjA/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdSHlicmdENTBndE0/view?usp=sharing
He2isenberg said:
hi @saba_mehdy . are you from iran ?! i bought this phone and i use this for 1 month . if you want to know about my experience and you are iranian too , contact with me for easier correspondence in sweet persian language
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WOOOW can you speak persian?
give me your ID telegram for to discuss together
He2isenberg said:
and also my phone camera work very well . it work for me beyond of my expect . i upload some photos taken by myself .
links :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdTjFVaWM2cXBYQVk/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdMWVvV3lVQXU5ams/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdek1mYm52QVpZd2M/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdRE9pY09rLW1fMkE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdRjBtaXBKQTVteDQ/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdb0Jha2plb05tdm8/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdUkdYaW82d2sxUjA/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IX5yJmKyEdSHlicmdENTBndE0/view?usp=sharing
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Hello mate,
Have you taken this from Elephone P8000? The pics are amazing. Which camera app and which rom and kernel. I won't get anything even close even if I jump from a building .
Can you please help us amateurs to calibrate settings to get such pics.
Thanks,
Good app i Snap Camera. You have options like in digital camera. I've use from copule of weeks and in my oppinion is much better than orginal stuff.
Hello
I have bought Z5 premium, coming from Samsung s6 edge plus.
I would like to have some help ith the camera because really I can't understand well....The phone has a 23Mpx sensor for sony, but I've read in a lot of places that for real the sensor is 8mpx...
Now I want to understand how to shot the picture....how can I have the best results? Shoting in 8mpx or in 23? At the moment I'm not so happy about pictures, with S6 the pictures were better so I need to understand how to have better results....
Or it's better to use another app from the market?
Thank you so much if you can help me
first time on xda, maybe i posted in the wrong section. i'm just a noob, my english isn't that good either.
just wanted to share my thought on the camera, overall i'm impressed despite the underwhelming review i come across the internet.
also to help people who still concern about the camera performance, the lowlight is even brighter than my perfectly healthy eye.
check this out oi66 . tinypic . com/34g4tx3.jpg (i put space because i can't post an outside link, 10 post rule)
man this phone got bad a camera review, i just wonder how good phone like samsung, iphone, google pixel are which always got high praise on their camera..
anjargun said:
first time on xda, maybe i posted in the wrong section. i'm just a noob, my english isn't that good either.
just wanted to share my thought on the camera, overall i'm impressed despite the underwhelming review i come across the internet.
also to help people who still concern about the camera performance, the lowlight is even brighter than my perfectly healthy eye.
check this out oi66 . tinypic . com/34g4tx3.jpg (i put space because i can't post an outside link, 10 post rule)
man this phone got bad a camera review, i just wonder how good phone like samsung, iphone, google pixel are which always got high praise on their camera..
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I couldn't get you link to work, shame. Yes, the camera did get a bad review, but given the technology packed into the phone, I think it should do better than it does. I did a side by side comparison to the Z3 compact and for quite a few of the pictures the Z3 won. I think it was a mistake to put such a wide angle lense on the phone. Yes, it was a good for vistas and views, but the sensor chip struggles with close up work. The camera was useless until Sony released a 'fix' for it. I don't understand how a phone go through the manufacturing process without anyone testing the lense/sensor combination. It's better than it was, now the fix is in place, but it's not the best camera Sony have made.
Manual mode every time, take the iso and shutter speed out of auto and get the shutter down as slow as possible. If you can find the time to put the phone on a tripod, the difference is amazing.
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I couldn't get you link to work, shame. Yes, the camera did get a bad review, but given the technology packed into the phone, I think it should do better than it does. I did a side by side comparison to the Z3 compact and for quite a few of the pictures the Z3 won. I think it was a mistake to put such a wide angle lense on the phone. Yes, it was a good for vistas and views, but the sensor chip struggles with close up work. The camera was useless until Sony released a 'fix' for it. I don't understand how a phone go through the manufacturing process without anyone testing the lense/sensor combination. It's better than it was, now the fix is in place, but it's not the best camera Sony have made.
Manual mode every time, take the iso and shutter speed out of auto and get the shutter down as slow as possible. If you can find the time to put the phone on a tripod, the difference is amazing.
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oi66 . tinypic.com/34g4tx3.jpg (don't forget the 0i66) just wait till it load
well i never know the close up problem tho, is it like can't shoot macro shot or something like that?
are u sure z3 won over the xz1? because i also do that first time trying to compare to the z1. but then i realize it was my mistake because the phone keep shooting in different mode, but if it the same mode xz1 won, everytime
anjargun said:
oi66 . tinypic.com/34g4tx3.jpg (don't forget the 0i66) just wait till it load
well i never know the close up problem tho, is it like can't shoot macro shot or something like that?
are u sure z3 won over the xz1? because i also do that first time trying to compare to the z1. but then i realize it was my mistake because the phone keep shooting in different mode, but if it the same mode xz1 won, everytime
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I also had a z1 and z3, and they were good (z1 with some Sony' camera mod was the best!). And yes, in night mode z3 it's better than our new xz1 (but it's at will be covered maybe with patches or mods, maybe in future, because our sensor can take picture with iso lower than it can use now in stock camera app)
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PeppeBove said:
I also had a z1 and z3, and they were good (z1 with some Sony' camera mod was the best!). And yes, in night mode z3 it's better than our new xz1
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I do not believe! there are examples? xz1 much better in poor lighting
anjargun said:
first time on xda, maybe i posted in the wrong section. i'm just a noob, my english isn't that good either.
just wanted to share my thought on the camera, overall i'm impressed despite the underwhelming review i come across the internet.
also to help people who still concern about the camera performance, the lowlight is even brighter than my perfectly healthy eye.
check this out oi66 . tinypic . com/34g4tx3.jpg (i put space because i can't post an outside link, 10 post rule)
man this phone got bad a camera review, i just wonder how good phone like samsung, iphone, google pixel are which always got high praise on their camera..
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Wow, SUPER impressed with your low light results while in manual mode. I tried recreating those results in low light conditions myself, but couldn't find the right settings to see that big of a difference. Would you mind sharing the settings you used to achieve that? Thanks!
I see on 4pda people are advising to use SnapCamera. I wonder what is the difference between stock, Snapcamera, and Gcam (if available)?