What Head Unit? - MTCB Android Head Units Q&A

I am new to this forum and have been reading for the last 4 hours but can't seem to zero in on which unit to purchase. I am installing this in my motorhome for navigation, radio, OBD Torque, and bluetooth. I don't need DVD and would like to avoid it possible.
I would obviously like the most powerful unit with the most memory. I was looking at the Newsy NR-3001 as it seems to have the most support. Is that correct?
If t's not what do you recommend? Which one has the best radio chip?
Thanks!

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InfraRed for Remote Control

Is there some software that can turn the InfraRed on Hermes for use as a remote control for things like TVs?
There is. Say, VITO Remote. But Hermes infrared port is really short-ranged (no more than a meter, I recall), so it's of little use.
Koterpillar said:
There is. Say, VITO Remote. But Hermes infrared port is really short-ranged (no more than a meter, I recall), so it's of little use.
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like every pda-ir i've ever saw^^
softonic123 said:
like every pda-ir i've ever saw^^
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Some iPaqs have a decent range, heck even wizard has a better range than Hermes. Anyway Hermes' IR is not meant for remote controlling the TV.
Would make an interesting project to see if the ir led could be changed or boosted for a longer range. Would love to use my hermes as remote as well
you can search in the old parts of the forum for posts by me for curcirs layout extentions for boosters for ir for pda's
it's alot of work but hardware addons always are
bchau said:
Is there some software that can turn the InfraRed on Hermes for use as a remote control for things like TVs?
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so why didnt you search the forums first on this topic? theres enough threads on the limited range of iRda.
Novii Remote Deluxe
My Wizard would operate the TV from the couch just fine.
No such luck on the Hermes though. It's IR port is substantially weaker then the Wizard's
the Ipaqs where designed to be used as a remote, a special IR was put in it.
Three is one other option, you can make a sound to IR adapter and "play" the ir signal from a wav file.
forgot where i read about it, but think it was from an ipod hack. gd luck
TyTN Multi Remote Controler...
Koterpillar said:
There is. Say, VITO Remote. But Hermes infrared port is really short-ranged (no more than a meter, I recall), so it's of little use.
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SHORT RANGED
I use Novii Remote Deluxe from http://www.novii.tv/pocketpc/ on my TyTN (Hermes) and it works just fine at about 10 meters with my TV, Hi-Fi Sat. decoder etc. etc.
My wife likes to hide the remote when the Game is on, so I use my "TyTN-Multi-Remote" quite often...
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SHORT RANGED
I use Novii Remote Deluxe from http://www.novii.tv/pocketpc/ on my TyTN (Hermes) and it works just fine at about 10 meters with my TV, Hi-Fi Sat. decoder etc. etc.
My wife likes to hide the remote when the Game is on, so I use my "TyTN-Multi-Remote" quite often...
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EXACTLY which version of Novii did you use and what Rom do you have installed on your Hermes?
DexterH you don't sell that software do you
which hardware and rom do you ahve?
Acuum2 said:
DexterH you don't sell that software do you
which hardware and rom do you ahve?
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ha-ha, No I do not sell anything, though I could do with an extra income... ( wife just LOVES shoes )
Anyway, I think I exaggerated a bit with the 10m (32feet), took the wife's measuring-tape-thingy-for-making-clothes and my couch is about 5m (16feet) from my TV etc.
Sorry about that, but it is still much further than most of the people I talked to said the Hermes can do, most people talked about less than 1m (3feet) I paid the odd $30 which is less than you would pay for a good hardware Universal Remote and you still can't carry it with you like a PocketPC.
My TyTN (Herm200) was bought new May 2007. I flashed the official WM6 ROM 3.54.255.3 from HTC (5.2.1437 build 17944.0.3.1).
The software version for Novii Remote Delux is 4.11 (build 2006.08.21a, IRv27), released in August 2006.
Sorry again for exaggerating, as you get older the percieved distance from one resting place to the next tends to get greater...
IR
Select models of discontinued HP's that included the Nevo remote software were specially designed with CIR that allows them to have better range etc. This is the same type of IR diode in your conventional remote controls. The Hermes has IRDA. Designed for short range transmission.
DexterH said:
ha-ha, No I do not sell anything, though I could do with an extra income... ( wife just LOVES shoes )
Anyway, I think I exaggerated a bit with the 10m (32feet), took the wife's measuring-tape-thingy-for-making-clothes and my couch is about 5m (16feet) from my TV etc.
Sorry about that, but it is still much further than most of the people I talked to said the Hermes can do, most people talked about less than 1m (3feet) I paid the odd $30 which is less than you would pay for a good hardware Universal Remote and you still can't carry it with you like a PocketPC.
My TyTN (Herm200) was bought new May 2007. I flashed the official WM6 ROM 3.54.255.3 from HTC (5.2.1437 build 17944.0.3.1).
The software version for Novii Remote Delux is 4.11 (build 2006.08.21a, IRv27), released in August 2006.
Sorry again for exaggerating, as you get older the percieved distance from one resting place to the next tends to get greater...
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Many thanks for getting back and supplying the info. I suspect that the hardware that one is using it on also is a factor.
I tried the exact same version of NoviiDeluxe on 2 different devices (so far). One a very cheap no name DVD player and an even cheaper Matsui TV. The maxium range I got from DVD player was ~ 3 metres and the TV barely got to 2 metres.
Anyway, it is much better than often stated. The Novvi software is very good. From their forum there might be a problem on Hermes phones with the pre-built IR codes but there is no problem learning and implementing codes.
novii is nice, but the range kills the fun with stock IR
Wam7 said:
Many thanks for getting back and supplying the info. I suspect that the hardware that one is using it on also is a factor.
I tried the exact same version of NoviiDeluxe on 2 different devices (so far). One a very cheap no name DVD player and an even cheaper Matsui TV. The maxium range I got from DVD player was ~ 3 metres and the TV barely got to 2 metres.
Anyway, it is much better than often stated. The Novvi software is very good. From their forum there might be a problem on Hermes phones with the pre-built IR codes but there is no problem learning and implementing codes.
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Don't know but I think it also has a lot to do with the quality of the signal of the original remote,
May be my imagination, but when in IR-learning mode, I got a huge difference in range if I use new batteries and press-and-hold for a few sec. the button on the original remote, instead of just a quick press. It is as if the captured code is just that little bit stronger...
As said, this may or may not help, but give it a go, you never know...
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Select models of discontinued HP's that included the Nevo remote software were specially designed with CIR that allows them to have better range etc. This is the same type of IR diode in your conventional remote controls. The Hermes has IRDA. Designed for short range transmission.
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allow me to elaborate on this, my last pda (which i kinda sat on - not as sturdy as a remote apperantly...) was the ipaq rx3715.
there are two type's of ir ports generally for pda's - sir and cir.
confused? its sipmle - Serial Infra Red and Consumer Infra red.
the ipaq had SIR on it because it was part of the "media oriented packege" that RX models sport.
TyTn seems to use CIR, short range in order to communicate with other devices. most devices these days dont even get ir ports these days. i've owned my tytn for a year now and haven't once used it.
you'l get up to three meters max on a CIR usually as far as i know - BUT I COULD BE WRONG!!
maybe it could be done something from the radio rom to increase the radio power of the IR port

[Q] Mini Cooper Third Party Entertainment System- WINCE/ Android - Upgrade Solutions?

Hello Xda-Developer Members,
My Name ist Robin, I'm from Germany and almost 20 Years old. This is my first post here (since 5-6 years ago), please be patient if my English is not that good or i'm writing in the wrong topic.
I've been customizing HTC Devices almost 5 oder 6 Years ago, so deep in my mind there are some rememberings about flashing XDA's left, but actual i would rather call myself an absolut beginner If you have interesting links or tutorials for me, that can answer my questions, please just post the link. I guess my english is that bad that i don't have the right keywords to find what i'm looking for.
I've bought myself an R56 Mini Cooper S and i'm very happy about this car, except of the Entertainment. The original Headunit has no functions than the tuner,an auxiliary input and a CD-Player. The sound is not powerful ( i already managed to customize and delete the 100Hz Limiter the Radio has for the "Stereo-System-Speakers") as this lays in the low ampfiler power. Upgrades are very expensive (Bluetooth just for calls - 300€ all around- no A2DP Support at all!!) and doesn't satisfy me as they won't work properly ( Problems with ID3-Tags, USB-Storage Sizes...).
Professional Digital Sound Processing (about 300€) requires a MOST-Bus Interface(very expensive). Summing up all togheter, working with the original Headunit will never make me happy at all.
I was looking for some alternatives and found two kinds of upgrade head units, that fit into the original interior design and which seems very interesting to me expecting the functions.. I'd like to ask the professionals here some questions about ist.
Headunit Version 1: Please search on Aliexpress for " ZESTECH New mini cooper car dvd player with gps navigation radio bluetooth steering wheel car dvd player mini cooper ", I'm not allowed to post a link in here
This Headunit is equipped with an ARM11 Processor 800Mhz, 256MB Ram, 128 MB Rom and a custom version of WNCE 6.0.
There are several functions that i would be really interested in- like the GPS Receiver, Bluetooth (With A2DP!) Touch Display, CAN-Bus interface for wheel steering control and so on.
Also i'm afraid of a very slow system ( 256MB Ram and 800Mhz is not very much, isn't it?!), a crappy software design with bad german translation, navigation software that doesn't work properly.... Problems we know from "NoName China Devices"..
So i'm wondering if it is possible to install a clean Version of WIN CE i could customize by myself ? Can i upload the ROM that is installed on the device just to take out drivers? (I guess, i'll have to?!)
I have heard, Windows Phone 7 is based on the WIN CE 6.0 Core. Is it possible to install Phone7 on a WINCE device ? I like the Design of it better than the WINCE- and Windows Phone would deliever a Software store, were i could easily download Apps, i guess.
Would it be possible to install a clean version of Android on this device? In those days i was hacking my HTC, Android actually came on and some custom ROMs appeared that managed using Android on WInMob Devices by using HaRet as "boot loader" , i deeply remember....
Headunit Version 2: Please search on Alieexpress for " Pure Android 4.4 Car radio DVD GPS for BMW Mini (up to 2013) with Bluetooth RDS USB SD IPOD SWC Rearview 3G Wifi Support DVR "
This Headunit is equipped with a more powerful 1,9 Ghz Cortex A9 CPU, 1GB Samsung Ram and 8 GB ROM. Even the quality of the software design and display resolution is much better. Also it has WIFI, a Can Interface, Bluetooth, GPS Receiver, and so on. Another benefit that there is already a version of Android running on it- but it's still no clean version. The description says something about that the google market is installed on the device. Could any problems come up to me that the market won't work properly?
Is it possible to take this device, take the hardware drivers out of the original ROM and finally install a current clean Android ROM on it?
Can man make the Google Market work? ( I heard there are Problems with self-cooked ROMs and the Google Market- but im only a noob )
I still remember, building a custom rom and make a upgrade ROM work is a big amount of work- but if this is possible it would be worth it, for me and sure for other Mini Drivers since most of them are sad about the bad Entertainment.
Please don't be angry about the large text and maybe some dumba** questions. I did much to find a solution by myself, but still im sitting here without any idea
I'm looking forward for your answers,
Robin
If you want a hackable Chinese headunit, I would recommend the 2 most popular here on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...4-4-2-kitkat-head-unit-newsmy-carpad-t2865525
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660662
But I don't know how well they or their variants will fit in your car.
If you just want "Android Auto" you can try my headunit app on a tablet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60894402&postcount=94
Hey hey! Thank you for your fast response!
The Version 1 Headunit you wrote about is my absolute favourite. very nice thing. Sadly, putting a 2-Din Headunit into my car means a lot of work, and there is still the old command unit for the standard radio that won't work anymore if there is a new sound station installed.
If there is no better solution i'm fine with that. But as long as there are - maybe - head units that fit into the original interior, this would be more satisfying.
A few Minutes ago i sent a Mail to the Customer of the Android DVD radio if there are any limitations within his android version and if there would be a possibility sending me a clean rom version if i buy the radio. Last point is a high expectation- but who knows

Looking for a MHL / Mirrorlink 1.1 / Android auto phone

I am getting crazy to find a phone, which will be used in the car with a Kenwood DDX-7025 probably. AFAIK the DDX-7025 supports MHL, with Mirrorlink I am unsure, looks like the 7015 supports Mirrorlink. But I want to use Sygic which needs Mirrorlink 1.1 if I don't want to use MHL. Actually I don't know what I should prefer MHL oder Mirrorlink. So my goal is to buy a phone which supports MHL and Mirrorlink 1.1
The cheapest I found is a HTC One (M8), when I check https://cert.mirrorlink.com/ProductListing/ On the on side it is a little bit above my budget and on the other side, I would prefer a bigger display. Android auto shoul be supported too, which needs Android 5.0 min.
Is there a Sony phone which supports Mirrorlink 1.1. Looks like most Sony phones support Mirrorlink 1.0 only.
As a person who tests car head units supporting MirrorLink, CarPlay and Android Auto for a while now, I can only conclude that MirrorLink (even in the 1.1 installment) is the buggiest of all three. Sadly, CarPlay seems to be the most consistent.
Yes, it is really sad. Do you know any headunit which supports Mirrorlink 1.1?
I've never looked to buy a head unit. I've only been involved in the developing of the project, as a tester. Sadly neither of the projects are launched yet and even if they'd be launched, you'd have to buy the whole car, as they were OEM head units.
Bottom line is, if you want remote UI on your head unit, try to search for something that supports Android Auto or CarPlay (depending on what phone you have or want to buy). Usually, head units that are currently in development will support either all three standards or just AA and CP.
Out of the two standards available for Android, ML needs, as an extra, a certified phone. It also is, from what I've seen, more buggy and generally less stable than AA or CP.
What I want is to mirror any app on the head unit screen and that is hard to realize. Android Auto is Google dominated, I don't want the Google navigation and I am not interested in things like how high is the "Empire State Building". Mirrorlink is limited to certain apps, a catastrophy which apps, especially which navigation apps are allowed. So the only solution would be MHL, what I found out. But with MHL it is very critical with the devices. I read that it stopped working sind Android 5.0
What did you end up with?
sounreal said:
What did you end up with?
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Good question, at least I forgot the connection between phone and head unit. I bought an Alpine head unit INE-W990BT (including navigation), which I won't buy again because gps is too inaccurate, I assume Kenwood is better and use this for navigation. In case I need more than I use a Zuk Z1, which has an excellent battery, which is mounted below the wind shield.
I have a kenwood ddx9702 and I connect android auto up with my sprint htc one m8 (bad boys ROM s-off). Using MHL it only mirrors phone screen. Using USB I get android auto to work.

Android Auto compatibile HU recommendation - Dasaita??

Hello everyone.
My 3 years old 7" Joying Sofia 2gb HU died, and I'm looking for a replacement.
The most important things for me:
- fast performance and stability, which means at least 2gb of memory, preferably 4gb.
- good ANDROID AUTO compatibility, either natively, or good support for the app "Android headunit reloaded" which I've been using all the time on my dead joying unit
- Fast wake up time after sleep, I really don't want to wait a minute for having a working unit once I turn on the car.
I was advised to try the units from DASAITA as they seem to be of higher quality than Joying.
The latest units are based on PX6 while the latest Joying ones are using AIrmont SC9853i CPUs
1) Is there much any difference in terms of performance between PX6 and Airmont architecture? They both have 4GB of RAM.
2) Does the DASAITA units have the quick wake up from sleep as the joying units?
3) Is the ZLINK solution provided in these units a good solution for having Android Auto? I've been using "Android Headunit Reloaded|" app and it has been really good.
5) Is the new built-in DSP available only in the latest Joying models?
Any advice will be highly appreciated!!
Thanks in advance
Anyone with experience with joying and dasaita?

Android head unit for Peugeot 508

Hello everyone, I am Dutch and new on this forum.
I'm in the happy possession of a Peugeot 508 from 2012.
Since the Here navigation leaves a lot to be desired and I would also have some other software in the car, I'm considering buying an Android Head Unit from AliExpress.
There's quite a few offers, so I have some questions. I hope that someone has experience with the systems or can give me advice.
Just some examples that I found: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4001205344015.html and https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005001582465605.html
They all claim to be 'plug and play' and units are available for various brands and types of car.
Are these systems substantially different from newer Android systems in current cars?
I have the idea that all brands offered are all equal internally and that only the interface differs. Is that right?
Can a new Android version be updated easily?
All are available with 4Gb OF RAM, 64Gb ROM, Hexa or Octa Core, PX6 CPU, DSP. Are there any things I need to look out for?
I have an iPhone so I would also like to buy a Carplay dongel. Does this work properly?
Are there any other brands that might fit in this car?
Thanks for the help.
Best regards,
Rob

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