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Hi guys I had been extremely interested in the gnex for the past 2 months...buying it is on my top of list.
I wanted to get it from amazon /newegg since they have the full international warranty.beccause I am out of the country frequently for 2-3 months,in Asia,Europe,china,India,etc. My question here would be,people who got the phone from handbag/clove/negri,did u guys get international warranty n stuff recognized by Samsung?does your papers clearly mention international warranty? I have never bought from these sellers lol....in case of a problem,if I just send it in to the service center in the country,that's enuf right?I don't want a seller warranty,but a true manufacturer warranty.
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bump... pls help out som1?? ne1 with a nexus, can u pls confirm the international warranty status?
I ordered from Negri. To my knowledge Samsung UK wont warranty imported GalNex directly.
Negri's policy:
Every (Non Carrier Branded) device comes with a 1 year warranty from the manufacturer. After 25 days our exchange/return policy has expired, you should contact the manufacturer for repair or for warranty replacement or exchange, if your device qualifies for this. Please contact the manufacturer to determine if the device you hold is covered under their warranty. If you would like to send your device to us to send to the manufacturer you are free to do so. Please request an RMA. This will delay the warranty process by 1-2 weeks and you will be charged shipping to and from the manufacturer. You will need the original invoice from us in order to have your item repaired or exchanged by the manufacturer. Warranty varies by manufacturer, but typically warranties are valid for 1 year from purchase.
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I would guess the other importers are similar. The device is covered under warranty, but needs to be shipped back to the importer you purchased from and from there back to Samsung UK. At least thats the impression I get, could be wrong.
psycho2097 said:
Hi guys I had been extremely interested in the gnex for the past 2 months...buying it is on my top of list.
I wanted to get it from amazon /newegg since they have the full international warranty.beccause I am out of the country frequently for 2-3 months,in Asia,Europe,china,India,etc. My question here would be,people who got the phone from handbag/clove/negri,did u guys get international warranty n stuff recognized by Samsung?does your papers clearly mention international warranty? I have never bought from these sellers lol....in case of a problem,if I just send it in to the service center in the country,that's enuf right?I don't want a seller warranty,but a true manufacturer warranty.
sent from my tablet,NOT AN IPAD!
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I believe Samsung does not have international warranty atleast for this phone. If it was released in a particular country, you need to send ti to their repair center in that country for service.
If you buy it from expansys-usa, then you send the phone to them and they will send it to samsung uk for repairs.
warranty is what is definitely keeping me on the sidelines.
i'll wait for the release of the verizon version first and see if any announcements are made regarding a GSM release in the US.
Most likely i'll end up ordering sometime next week.
i hope BB sells the GSM unlocked version soon. i'd rather go through them.
Samsung's policy on grey market electronics is very strict and clear. In order to receive warranty repairs on a covered device it must be:
1) Purchased in its country of intended sale.
2) Purchased from an authorized Samsung reseller.
No international GN purchased in the U.S. has a warranty no matter what the reseller tells you. That includes Negri and Expansys-USA. However, both Negri and Expansys will ship the phone overseas to one of their international affiliates for service on behalf of their U.S. customers. The GSM GN is not sold in the U.S. and, if it is, it's considered by Samsung to be a grey market device. Anyone buying from either Handtec or Clove are covered for two-years since the device would have been purchased in the UK even though it was imported to the U.S.
If an imported GN needs service, you have to ship it to a Samsung repair centre in the UK. Before warranty work is provided they'll ask for a receipt and/or credit card statement showing the purchase from an authorized reseller in GBP. They also maintain a database of serial numbers so they know which devices were sold through which resellers. They've denied claims on plenty of international SGS2's because the above conditions weren't met.
OP, Amazon and NewEgg are your least preferred options as the phone has no warranty what so ever. You can however get a SquareTrade warranty for it because they cover grey market devices. It's about $100 for two-years of coverage with ADH when they have a 30% sale going on.
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got an email back from squaretrade:
"Hello XXXXX,
Thank you for contacting SquareTrade.
In order for your item to be eligible for a SquareTrade coverage, it should have a US Manufacturer's warranty. Also, SquareTrade Care Plans are available on eligible items purchased from eBay within the last 30 days and items purchased from any retail store/website within the last 90 days.
We only offer warranties on new and refurbished items recently purchased from a retail store or retail website and new, refurbished and used items from eBay.
We do not offer warranties for any items purchased from Craigslist, classified ads, or any person-to-person transactions, including items purchased from friends or family members. Items from pawn shops, thrift stores and other stores selling used goods are also ineligible.
Should you have any questions or concerns, reply to this email or call 1-877-WARRANTY (1-877-927-7268) US & Canada only, 24/7.
Thank you,
Ravishing Rick Rude
SquareTrade Care Specialist
re: Ticket [#XXXXXXXXXXX]
Your comment:
i would like to purchase a galaxy nexus in the US that is being sold by companies like expansys, negri electronics etc.....
my questions is:
even though the galaxy nexus (GSM version) isn't officially being sold in the US, if i purchase from the aforementioned companies, can i still get a valid plan with square trade?
***the GSM galaxy nexus is currently being imported by negri electronics and expansys and sold in the US, so it is currently considered a gray market phone. *** "
bummer.
BarryH_GEG said:
Samsung's policy on grey market electronics is very strict and clear. In order to receive warranty repairs on a covered device it must be:
1) Purchased in its country of intended sale.
2) Purchased from an authorized Samsung reseller.
No international GN purchased in the U.S. has a warranty no matter what the reseller tells you. That includes Negri and Expansys-USA. However, both Negri and Expansys will ship the phone overseas to one of their international affiliates for service on behalf of their U.S. customers. The GSM GN is not sold in the U.S. and, if it is, it's considered by Samsung to be a grey market device. Anyone buying from either Handtec or Clove are covered for two-years since the device would have been purchased in the UK even though it was imported to the U.S.
If an imported GN needs service, you have to ship it to a Samsung repair centre in the UK. Before warranty work is provided they'll ask for a receipt and/or credit card statement showing the purchase from an authorized reseller in GBP. They also maintain a database of serial numbers so they know which devices were sold through which resellers. They've denied claims on plenty of international SGS2's because the above conditions weren't met.
OP, Amazon and NewEgg are your least preferred options as the phone has no warranty what so ever. You can however get a SquareTrade warranty for it because they cover grey market devices. It's about $100 for two-years of coverage with ADH when they have a 30% sale going on.
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Listen,amazon and newegg have something called international versions of gs2 and gs and nexus s with full international warranty,n I know for a fact that these warranties were honored internationally. And when amazon n newegg say international warranty,it basically means everywhere except US. That's fine by me,actually. Well,I mean I would prefer if US was included obviously...but I can do without it. Anyways, speculations aside,can any actual nexus owner provide details about his or her papers? Someone from Europe that purchased from handtec or clove? I asked both handtec n clove yesterday,waiting for an answer.
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Show of hands:
How many people have actually used their warranty? Seriously?
I mean, it's nice as a comforting thing, but in 10 years I have never needed a warranty.
Most things that go wrong aren't warranty issues anyway (dead battery, physical/water damage, etc).
It just seems like people are leveraging this as a reason not to buy.
Once you root, it's done with anyway (any warranty, that is).
I don't think you're done with warranty if you root. Or has anyone actually heard not getting support or service because of root? You can also always revert to stock, but I'm thinking if not to although I'm soon sending mine for inspection due to screen issues.
I was instructed by Samsung UK to contact local Samsung for support, but that can be because of all the neat customer rights things here in EU.
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predation said:
got an email back from squaretrade:
"Hello XXXXX,
Thank you for contacting SquareTrade.
In order for your item to be eligible for a SquareTrade coverage, it should have a US Manufacturer's warranty. Also, SquareTrade Care Plans are available on eligible items purchased from eBay within the last 30 days and items purchased from any retail store/website within the last 90 days.
We only offer warranties on new and refurbished items recently purchased from a retail store or retail website and new, refurbished and used items from eBay.
We do not offer warranties for any items purchased from Craigslist, classified ads, or any person-to-person transactions, including items purchased from friends or family members. Items from pawn shops, thrift stores and other stores selling used goods are also ineligible.
Should you have any questions or concerns, reply to this email or call 1-877-WARRANTY (1-877-927-7268) US & Canada only, 24/7.
Thank you,
Ravishing Rick Rude
SquareTrade Care Specialist
re: Ticket [#XXXXXXXXXXX]
Your comment:
i would like to purchase a galaxy nexus in the US that is being sold by companies like expansys, negri electronics etc.....
my questions is:
even though the galaxy nexus (GSM version) isn't officially being sold in the US, if i purchase from the aforementioned companies, can i still get a valid plan with square trade?
***the GSM galaxy nexus is currently being imported by negri electronics and expansys and sold in the US, so it is currently considered a gray market phone. *** "
bummer.
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From the T&C of my warranties for my UK i9100 and G-Tab:
If the manufacturer refuses to honor their warranty because they consider your item grey market or not purchased from an authorized retailer, we will still cover you.
If your item is used, or doesn't have a US manufacturer's warranty of at least 90 days ("Other"), then the Service Agreement begins on the 61st day after item purchase and lasts for the number of years of coverage you specify at purchase time.
Also, after you purchase the warranty, you can send in your receipt for verification and to expedite claims processing. They accepted both my UK receipts without question.
You can view the full T&C on their website.
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psycho2097 said:
Listen,amazon and newegg have something called international versions of gs2 and gs and nexus s with full international warranty,n I know for a fact that these warranties were honored internationally. And when amazon n newegg say international warranty,it basically means everywhere except US. That's fine by me,actually. Well,I mean I would prefer if US was included obviously...but I can do without it. Anyways, speculations aside,can any actual nexus owner provide details about his or her papers? Someone from Europe that purchased from handtec or clove? I asked both handtec n clove yesterday,waiting for an answer.
Sent from my cell phone. DUH
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Huh? There's only one warranty. The one provided by Samsung which is based on the country of intended sale. Samsung doesn't sell the GSM GN in the U.S. Any reseller that's selling it here is importing it from overseas. That makes it grey market which means Samsung won't cover it. Samsung USA won't repair it because it's not a product sold here. Samsung UK won't repair it because the Amazon receipt shows it was purchased outside the UK, its intended country of sale. You'll notice that if Amazon is the merchant, all their imported phones say "no warranty." But go ahead, purchase other than from Expansys, Negri, or the UK and see what happens if you need service. A lot of SGS2 owners spun the wheel and learned the hard way.
BarryH_GEG said:
From the T&C of my warranties for my UK i9100 and G-Tab:
If the manufacturer refuses to honor their warranty because they consider your item grey market or not purchased from an authorized retailer, we will still cover you.
If your item is used, or doesn't have a US manufacturer's warranty of at least 90 days ("Other"), then the Service Agreement begins on the 61st day after item purchase and lasts for the number of years of coverage you specify at purchase time.
Also, after you purchase the warranty, you can send in your receipt for verification and to expedite claims processing. They accepted both my UK receipts without question.
You can view the full T&C on their website.
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Huh? There's only one warranty. The one provided by Samsung which is based on the country of intended sale. Samsung doesn't sell the GSM GN in the U.S. Any reseller that's selling it here is importing it from overseas. That makes it grey market which means Samsung won't cover it. Samsung USA won't repair it because it's not a product sold here. Samsung UK won't repair it because the Amazon receipt shows it was purchased outside the UK, its intended country of sale. You'll notice that if Amazon is the merchant, all their imported phones say "no warranty." But go ahead, purchase other than from Expansys, Negri, or the UK and see what happens if you need service. A lot of SGS2 owners spun the wheel and learned the hard way.
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as i said, theres something called international warranty that gives u warranty everywhere except US in amazon phones. esp galaxy s and s2. i dont know how that works. stupid dilemma. Then again, i dont want to buy the buy the phone then find out that it has a damaged screen/yellowish screen, non-responsive buttons and crap and have to live with that for the next 2 years. no sir. Ah well, my next assignment is in India in March, maybe I will buy it there, they provide full international warranty. But i so dont want to wait till March.
ps, heres the reply from clove-
Thanks for your email. We cannot guarantee that the warranty is truly international. We do find in most cases that the service centres in different countries will accept the handset for repair, but not always. It does come with a 2 year UK warranty, but as you mentioned, this may not be suitable for yourself.
psycho2097 said:
as i said, theres something called international warranty that gives u warranty everywhere except US in amazon phones. esp galaxy s and s2.
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You're reading something made up by a third-party reseller listing on Amazon. The below link is for a SGS2 fulfilled by Amazon. You'll notice it says "no warranty" in the product title. There's no such thing as an "international warranty." The warranty is what's offered by Samsung which varies based on where the phone is sold.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QTBQ2C/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
Ah well, my next assignment is in India in March, maybe I will buy it there, they provide full international warranty. But i so dont want to wait till March.
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I don't know what Samsung's warranty policy is for products sold in India. But you better check where an Indian purchased phone can be repaired otherwise, if it's the same policy as the rest of the world, that's where you'll be sending it should it need repair.
I know Samsung USA will not honor international devices however will they repair it for you for a charge if you send it to them?
mstyle88 said:
I know Samsung USA will not honor international devices however will they repair it for you for a charge if you send it to them?
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Someone with an ISGS2 that needed a new display got all the way through the process to the point of it being received by the Samsung repair center in TX. When they got it, they sent it back. Samsung, more than any other manufacturer, does everything they can to make grey market imports distasteful. They are the only phone maker that belongs to AGMA.
http://www.agmaglobal.org/
Has anyone ever needed to use warranty on their phones? like, are certain defects so common that you need to use the warranty? I am looking to buy the phone from UK for use in new zealand and am worried about the warranty for GN.
I bought two Galaxy Nexus units and discovered that one has a defective speaker.
Anyone know if I can mail it directly to Samsung in the UK and they will mail it back to me here in Canada? I don't mind paying the postage to the UK and get it faster rather than having it forwarded to Samsung through unlocked-mobiles.
krishant007 said:
Has anyone ever needed to use warranty on their phones? like, are certain defects so common that you need to use the warranty? I am looking to buy the phone from UK for use in new zealand and am worried about the warranty for GN.
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I used my warranty on both my Nexus One and Nexus S. I got a replacement N1 from HTC and a new PCBA in my NS from Samsung, both free of charge. Both phones were rooted but re-locked before sending them in.
So what's the consensus on the best option for US buyers? One of the official UK sellers? Canadian?
krishant007 said:
Has anyone ever needed to use warranty on their phones? like, are certain defects so common that you need to use the warranty? I am looking to buy the phone from UK for use in new zealand and am worried about the warranty for GN.
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The SGS2's weak link is the way the USB port is mounted. It can come loose and get pushed up in to the phone. It happened to a couple of people. It's too early to tell if the GN has a common failing. For warranty work, you ship the phone to Samsung in the UK and they repair it and pay shipping back.
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irishrally said:
So what's the consensus on the best option for US buyers? One of the official UK sellers? Canadian?
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If you buy from Expansys-USA or Negri you ship the phone to them in the U.S. and they forward it on to their affiliates overseas for repair. It'll cost less for shipping but will take longer. The warranty is intact if you buy it from the UK.
As for Canada, that's a good question. The phone's not being sold directly there it's being offered via the carriers. If the carrier handles the repairs I don't know what happens when you're not a subscriber and don't have an account with them. I don't know if Samsung Canada will directly repair a carrier branded phone. If they will, Canada's a lot faster and cheaper if the phone needs repair.
Just out of curioustiy will HTC honor the warranty? I got.it of eBay from a store and am curious if we get it?
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Yes, you should have a 1 years warranty on it. You can call them and ask. Its a pain to use. You have to mail in your phone and its takes 2-3 weeks to get it back.
MadHatter01 said:
Yes, you should have a 1 years warranty on it. You can call them and ask. Its a pain to use. You have to mail in your phone and its takes 2-3 weeks to get it back.
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Expansys-USA says all the One X International units they sell have a standard 2 year warranty from HTC, not one.
There's a two years repair warranty from HTC. But they take like 2 weeks and sometimes don't fix.
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I called HTC and they said no!!!!
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Here are the warranty terms:
This limited warranty shall apply to the HTC product (the “Product”). HTC warrants that the product is at the time of its original purchase free of defects in materials and workmanship (“Limited Warranty”).This Limited Warranty is subject to the following terms and conditions:
1. This Limited Warranty is given only to the original purchaser of the Product (“Customer”). It shall neither exclude nor limit.
a) any statutory rights of the Customer or
b) any of the Customer’s rights against the seller/dealer of the Product.
2. This Limited Warranty shall last for twenty four (24) months from the date of original purchase for mobile devices and twelve (12) months for accessories (whether included in the mobile device sales package or sold separately) other than the media on which any software is provided, CDrom, memory card. (“Warranty Period”)
Customer shall present the PROOF OF PURCHASE upon claiming this Limited Warranty. This Limited Warranty may not be sold-on, assigned, transferred or given to any subsequent purchaser or acquirer of the Product. This Limited Warranty is only valid and enforceable in the countries where the Product is sold. Moreover, if Product is returned to be repaired under this Limited Warranty in the place other than where you purchased, HTC attempts to repair such Product but can not guarantee the outcome. Warranty service availability and response times may vary from country to country and may also be subject to a registration requirement in the country of purchase.
So here's why you're screwed...
- You're not the original purchaser
- You have no proof of purchase from an authorized reseller
- It was sold outside the country of intended sale
Samsung's policy is similar. Here's some advice on grey market phones. If you buy it from an authorized reseller in the country of intended sale you're covered. Handtec and Clove in the UK are authorized resellers and you have the benefit of a 24 month (vs. 12 month) warranty. Negri and Expansys-USA also handle warranty repairs for their customers by sending the phone to one of their overseas affiliates. Buy it from NewEgg, Amazon, eBay, and CL and you're on your own; meaning there is no warranty. And if they tell you differently they're lying.
SquareTrade covers grey market phones but you'll still need a receipt. They work with eBay and Amazon so purchases there may qualify. You'd need to verify that with ST.
Grey market phones aren't for everybody.
BarryH_GEG said:
Here are the warranty terms:
This limited warranty shall apply to the HTC product (the “Product”). HTC warrants that the product is at the time of its original purchase free of defects in materials and workmanship (“Limited Warranty”).This Limited Warranty is subject to the following terms and conditions:
1. This Limited Warranty is given only to the original purchaser of the Product (“Customer”). It shall neither exclude nor limit.
a) any statutory rights of the Customer or
b) any of the Customer’s rights against the seller/dealer of the Product.
2. This Limited Warranty shall last for twenty four (24) months from the date of original purchase for mobile devices and twelve (12) months for accessories (whether included in the mobile device sales package or sold separately) other than the media on which any software is provided, CDrom, memory card. (“Warranty Period”)
Customer shall present the PROOF OF PURCHASE upon claiming this Limited Warranty. This Limited Warranty may not be sold-on, assigned, transferred or given to any subsequent purchaser or acquirer of the Product. This Limited Warranty is only valid and enforceable in the countries where the Product is sold. Moreover, if Product is returned to be repaired under this Limited Warranty in the place other than where you purchased, HTC attempts to repair such Product but can not guarantee the outcome. Warranty service availability and response times may vary from country to country and may also be subject to a registration requirement in the country of purchase.
So here's why you're screwed...
- You're not the original purchaser
- You have no proof of purchase from an authorized reseller
- It was sold outside the country of intended sale
Samsung's policy is similar. Here's some advice on grey market phones. If you buy it from an authorized reseller in the country of intended sale you're covered. Handtec and Clove in the UK are authorized resellers and you have the benefit of a 24 month (vs. 12 month) warranty. Negri and Expansys-USA also handle warranty repairs for their customers by sending the phone to one of their overseas affiliates. Buy it from NewEgg, Amazon, eBay, and CL and you're on your own; meaning there is no warranty. And if they tell you differently they're lying.
SquareTrade covers grey market phones but you'll still need a receipt. They work with eBay and Amazon so purchases there may qualify. You'd need to verify that with ST.
Grey market phones aren't for everybody.
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I have proof of ownership and the store I got it from said they get it directly from HTC.
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VtHondaGuy08 said:
I have proof of ownership and the store I got it from said they get it directly from HTC.
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1) If you bought the phone in the U.S. the warranty is automatically void because it was sold outside the country of intended sale. HTC doesn't offer unlocked phones in the U.S. therefore no reseller is authorized to sell it. A U.S. receipt for a device not offered in the U.S. isn't going to cut it with HTC.
2) Whether from an individual or a reseller, it is highly unlikely that whoever you bought it from got it directly from HTC. Most likely they purchased it from an overseas reseller or distributor who themselves may not be authorized by HTC. Therefore, in HTC eyes, you're not the original purchaser.
The manufacturers don't want people buying grey market phones and enforce the warranty terms very strictly. Outside of buying it abroad from an authorized reseller or Negri and Expansys-USA you have no warranty protection and HTC really doesn't care. The One X is my fourth imported device and there have been horror stories on every forum when people discover that they have no warranty. At this point, your best bet is seeing if SquareTrade will cover it. If who you bought it from intentionally misled you might try and reverse the sale.
I recently made a claim with HTC USA for my One X as the USB/charging port stopped working. The guy who took the call placed me on hold to see if the phone would be covered under the US warranty as the phone was from a different country. He came back on the line and said it was good to go and I wouldn't have to call HTC in the country of origin to file the claim. Now whether or not they will cover the defect under warranty is in question as I have unlocked my boot loader and flashed a custom ROM. Phone is still in transit to HTC in Texas as of right now.
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Now whether or not they will cover the defect under warranty is in question as I have unlocked my boot loader and flashed a custom ROM. Phone is still in transit to HTC in Texas as of right now.
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And when they look at your receipt or ask you for one if you didn't send it in at the same time. Great news though if it works.
I think it comes down to who answers the phone call. I had an unlocked vivid purchased on eBay three weeks of use resulted in a dead speaker. Contacted HTC shipped the phone got it fixed, no receipt, sales record, etc required they track all that by imei number I believe.
Plus never ever tell them you purchased it from a "friend" or eBay. Simply lie, if that goes against your moral character that's understandable. Despite what sellers state on eBay unless you can confirm they are an authorized re-seller/seller HTC doesn't legally have to honor the warranty as you would be owner number 2 even if the phone was never turned on.
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BarryH_GEG said:
And when they look at your receipt or ask you for one if you didn't send it in at the same time. Great news though if it works.
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I do have the receipt, however I wasn't asked for one either on the phone or in the email with shipping instructions.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Here are the warranty terms:
This limited warranty shall apply to the HTC product (the “Product”). HTC warrants that the product is at the time of its original purchase free of defects in materials and workmanship (“Limited Warranty”).This Limited Warranty is subject to the following terms and conditions:
1. This Limited Warranty is given only to the original purchaser of the Product (“Customer”). It shall neither exclude nor limit.
a) any statutory rights of the Customer or
b) any of the Customer’s rights against the seller/dealer of the Product.
2. This Limited Warranty shall last for twenty four (24) months from the date of original purchase for mobile devices and twelve (12) months for accessories (whether included in the mobile device sales package or sold separately) other than the media on which any software is provided, CDrom, memory card. (“Warranty Period”)
Customer shall present the PROOF OF PURCHASE upon claiming this Limited Warranty. This Limited Warranty may not be sold-on, assigned, transferred or given to any subsequent purchaser or acquirer of the Product. This Limited Warranty is only valid and enforceable in the countries where the Product is sold. Moreover, if Product is returned to be repaired under this Limited Warranty in the place other than where you purchased, HTC attempts to repair such Product but can not guarantee the outcome. Warranty service availability and response times may vary from country to country and may also be subject to a registration requirement in the country of purchase.
So here's why you're screwed...
- You're not the original purchaser
- You have no proof of purchase from an authorized reseller
- It was sold outside the country of intended sale
Samsung's policy is similar. Here's some advice on grey market phones. If you buy it from an authorized reseller in the country of intended sale you're covered. Handtec and Clove in the UK are authorized resellers and you have the benefit of a 24 month (vs. 12 month) warranty. Negri and Expansys-USA also handle warranty repairs for their customers by sending the phone to one of their overseas affiliates. Buy it from NewEgg, Amazon, eBay, and CL and you're on your own; meaning there is no warranty. And if they tell you differently they're lying.
SquareTrade covers grey market phones but you'll still need a receipt. They work with eBay and Amazon so purchases there may qualify. You'd need to verify that with ST.
Grey market phones aren't for everybody.
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While this is true, the country bit is not always enforced, especially for international phones. There are already multiple stories of HTC accepting repairs for example, for a UK phone sent in for repair in Germany/France/Somewhereelseineurope. Something I have come to understand about HTC is they are not Apple (for whom I used to do phone service). They are a lot more forgiving about the international nature of many of their phones and tend to cut you a bit more of a break so that you continue to buy their phones up front
kamui957 said:
They are a lot more forgiving about the international nature of many of their phones and tend to cut you a bit more of a break so that you continue to buy their phones up front
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Great to know. I'm used to dealing with Samsung and their Nazis when it comes to warranty enforcment. My i9100 is in the UK as we speak getting its bezel replaced so I can sell it. On paper, HTC and Samsung look about the same. With Samsung you know you're screwed. It's kind of rough with HTC because you won't know you're screwed unless you are.
This guy was just refused service on his international One X.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631939&highlight=canada
I wish I could find the email of someone higher up the HTC food chain and email them about the problem, I think its crazy they wouldn't honor the warranty.
BarryH_GEG said:
Great to know. I'm used to dealing with Samsung and their Nazis when it comes to warranty enforcment. My i9100 is in the UK as we speak getting its bezel replaced so I can sell it. On paper, HTC and Samsung look about the same. With Samsung you know you're screwed. It's kind of rough with HTC because you won't know you're screwed unless you are.
This guy was just refused service on his international One X.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631939&highlight=canada
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I thought samsung was good and at least replaced phones if it was their fault......no?
BarryH_GEG said:
1) If you bought the phone in the U.S. the warranty is automatically void because it was sold outside the country of intended sale. HTC doesn't offer unlocked phones in the U.S. therefore no reseller is authorized to sell it. A U.S. receipt for a device not offered in the U.S. isn't going to cut it with HTC.
2) Whether from an individual or a reseller, it is highly unlikely that whoever you bought it from got it directly from HTC. Most likely they purchased it from an overseas reseller or distributor who themselves may not be authorized by HTC. Therefore, in HTC eyes, you're not the original purchaser.
The manufacturers don't want people buying grey market phones and enforce the warranty terms very strictly. Outside of buying it abroad from an authorized reseller or Negri and Expansys-USA you have no warranty protection and HTC really doesn't care. The One X is my fourth imported device and there have been horror stories on every forum when people discover that they have no warranty. At this point, your best bet is seeing if SquareTrade will cover it. If who you bought it from intentionally misled you might try and reverse the sale.
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I recently ordered unlocked HTC One in USA from HTC
I bought a Galaxy Note 2 from amazon here in the UK , however the phone that arrived appears to be from India. Should I return it to the seller? If I decide to keep it, can I use the warranty? I'm puzzled.
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There shouldn't be any problem. If you want u can flash original UK rom on it and u will gwt updates and everything like phone bought in UK. And as far as i know Samsung has world wide warranty.
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tom_bombadill said:
There shouldn't be any problem. If you want u can flash original UK rom on it and u will gwt updates and everything like phone bought in UK. And as far as i know Samsung has world wide warranty.
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" And as far as i know Samsung has world wide warranty."
Can anyone confirm this?
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Samsung dont have international warranty..
The warranty applies to country of the invoice, if you have a uk invoice than you have a valid warranty in UK and maybe in EU...No problem if it was a imported phone, it is only a problem if the N7100 reference didnt exist in UK, that is not the case.
If it has a India warranty you have to pay to repair it on UK..
Taken from warranty information ( UK Samsung website )
"Samsung Electronics (UK) Ltd support a product purchased in Europe if it has an EU Bloc Warranty. This warranty is present where the top of the product warranty card clearly states 'European Bloc'. If the product is purchased in another part of the globe then Samsung may attempt a repair. Samsung Electronics (UK) Ltd cannot guarantee the outcome."
badanas said:
Samsung dont have international warranty..
The warranty applies to country of the invoice, if you have a uk invoice than you have a valid warranty in UK and maybe in EU...No problem if it was a imported phone, it is only a problem if the N7100 reference didnt exist in UK, that is not the case.
If it has a India warranty you have to pay to repair it on UK..
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"Samsung Electronics (UK) Ltd support a product purchased in Europe if it has an EU Bloc Warranty. This warranty is present where the top of the product warranty card clearly states 'European Bloc'. If the product is purchased in another part of the globe then Samsung may attempt a repair. Samsung Electronics (UK) Ltd cannot guarantee the outcome."
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Since I bought it on Amazon UK, does that mean I have warranty?
amerkiller1995 said:
Since I bought it on Amazon UK, does that mean I have warranty?
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You bought it directly to amazon? Or it is a seller in amazon? If it was bought directly to amazon you dont have any problems...
badanas said:
You bought it directly to amazon? Or it is a seller in amazon? If it was bought directly to amazon you dont have any problems...
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Items Ordered Price
1 of: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 16GB SIM-Free Smartphone - Titanium Grey
Condition: New
Sold by: TopT (seller profile)
That is not amazon. The seller is TopT so its a third party seller. You would have to deal with that vendor which is a pain and some of them don't care once item is sold.
sabre31 said:
That is not amazon. The seller is TopT so its a third party seller. You would have to deal with that vendor which is a pain and some of them don't care once item is sold.
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Thanks for your help, I'll try to return it. I'll keep this topic updated.
Yeah next time when buying from amazon make sure it says ships and sold by Amazon usually its right below the price and buy it button.
For those interested, I contacted the seller about this issue and he said he'll give me 12 months of warranty himself, so I decided to keep the phone.
amerkiller1995 said:
For those interested, I contacted the seller about this issue and he said he'll give me 12 months of warranty himself, so I decided to keep the phone.
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be smart and react now as its seller warranty so he will get it repaired by himself if anything wrong happens than he will make extra charges saying that this defects has been caused by the user i.e.you so ultimately a lot of fuss for later use .
better return the device now and ask for a complete return and by from an authorized seller that provides warranty from company i.e samsung
as seller warranty phones comes at very low price from the original atleast a 20-30% price drop expected .
shhbz said:
be smart and react now as its seller warranty so he will get it repaired by himself if anything wrong happens than he will make extra charges saying that this defects has been caused by the user i.e.you so ultimately a lot of fuss for later use .
better return the device now and ask for a complete return and by from an authorized seller that provides warranty from company i.e samsung
as seller warranty phones comes at very low price from the original atleast a 20-30% price drop expected .
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I'm willing to take the risk, a year from now on repairs should will be cheap so that's not a problem. Also my chip is 0xf7, so SDS-free.
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I'm willing to take the risk, a year from now on repairs should will be cheap so that's not a problem. Also my chip is 0xf7, so SDS-free.
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well then you are good to go flashing custom. enjoy flashing :good: xda
Hello fellows. Im here to ask i anyone of you people has some knowing about lg g4's with 404k serial number? If you check the imei (imeipro i think) it shows you the correct 505 S/N.
My only assumptions is that is a bootloop refurbished (in factory) phone, because its 100% legit. I've never heard or read anything about this 404 thing.
Anyone?
Thanks. Some pics for the hatters...
Ps: i got it from Amazon.com as "New Lg G4 GSM unlocked".
Lol. I think I have his answer in case he is still wondering
I'm guessing this phone isn't "new". If app shows you different number than on a sticker, there is definitely something wrong. Maybe 404k body with 505 motherboard that's why app shows that.
my h811 doesnt have same sticker.as picture
This is default number for every phone that has been factory refurbished by lg
It can be any lg phone. Not just lg g4
They will all have the same exact serial number that you have
What you purchased is a brand new in box sealed factory refurbished lg g4
Buddy kind of ripped you...but not quite
Its a legit LG G4 phone
What does refurbished means for you? If LG repaired this phone they should do something to match all serial numbers and imeis. If your codes mismatch it doesn't sound legit. Best way would be just contacting the LG and just asking them if it's legit or not.
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What does refurbished means for you? If LG repaired this phone they should do something to match all serial numbers and imeis. If your codes mismatch it doesn't sound legit. Best way would be just contacting the LG and just asking them if it's legit or not.
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It means
a ) someone bought the phone it bootlooped. It was returned to their carrier......carrier sent it to lg
Customer got a new phone
Lg repaired the motherboard Applied the 404 default serial number. Resold it to wholesaler
Motherboard is still the same board repaired with a return serial number applied to every phone that has been refurbished and intended for resale
Its legit.....its the same motherboard just a refurb number
It can be any motherboard....608 701 etc
One it is repaired....it is given the same serial number because it has been altered.....it no longer the real manufacture date
Its been remanufactured. All remafactured/refurbished get the same number.
If he was to pull out his board...it would have original number on it before it was serviced
What do you mean by LG resold the phone? Have you seen LG selling refubrished devices? Where? Also, i know that after replacing motherboard serial number will change, but they should change the sticker too. It's still S/N mismatch. If i bought phone with IMEI/Serial number other than on the box i would give it back immediately. Contact LG and show us reply, i would really want to see it.
You know what could happen? Someone could have 2 broken G4s and make it one "good". That's why it doesn't seem legit to me. If LG would say that your phone is legit, it's ok then.
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What does refurbished means for you? If LG repaired this phone they should do something to match all serial numbers and imeis. If your codes mismatch it doesn't sound legit. Best way would be just contacting the LG and just asking them if it's legit or not.
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Basicly this
Phone broke > return to carrier > customer receives new phone > original phone repaired > new housing or parts to make it look new > default return number applied > phone resold
Imei still same serial number. Still same motherboard
Sticker only has really changed
Can't service it without sticker
Lg now knows this phone has serviced before....this is way lg makes money. If it happens again to take loss for issuing new phone because of carrier
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What do you mean by LG resold the phone? Have you seen LG selling refubrished devices? Where? Also, i know that after replacing motherboard serial number will change, but they should change the sticker too. It's still S/N mismatch. If i bought phone with IMEI/Serial number other than on the box i would give it back immediately. Contact LG and show us reply, i would really want to see it.
You know what could happen? Someone could have 2 broken G4s and make it one "good". That's why it doesn't seem legit to me. If LG would say that your phone is legit, it's ok then.
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You just seen where it was resold, to a wholesaler online.
Its not a serial number mismatch
The motherboard did NOT change. It was repaired
The default refurbished number is just sticker issued by LG so in the future LG is going to make money off repair and reselling the repaired customer phone in order to offset the cost of giving the carrier a new phone for customer
Again the motherboard is the same...only sticker has changed
You could 1 phone out of 2 but the serial numbers would no longer match between the screen and motherboard.
LG knows everything.
Maybe it's true, but how can u know? If you bought it directly from LG(and u can't cause they don't sell phones themselves) i wouldn't complain. But buying phone off amazon with different serial numbers isn't making it legit to me.
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I can't understand your english, but if his stickers says 404k serial number, and the app shows 505, IT IS MISMATCH. Do you get it?
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Maybe it's true, but how can u know? If you bought it directly from LG(and u can't cause they don't sell phones themselves) i wouldn't complain. But buying phone off amazon with different serial numbers isn't making it legit to me.
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I can't understand your english, but if his stickers says 404k serial number, and the app shows 505, IT IS MISMATCH. Do you get it?
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It is not a mismatch....
The motherboard/apps says 505
The sticker says 404
The motherboard was REPAIRED not changed. Its JUST a sticker
If it were REPAIRED it is no LONGER MANUFACTURED ON 505 is it?
THEREFORE default number on sticker
Soory mate, i can't understand your wording.
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Soory mate, i can't understand your wording.
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I am writing in English.....
It is not a mismatch....it is the same phone repaired....only thing has changed is the sticker.
App will say original serial number
The number he has on his phone is for ALL phone that has been repaired.....not parts changed
It is REFURBUSHED
I don't think I can make it any clearer than that
The sticker is FOR LG to know it was repaired
They do this to make money it needs repair again
Without original sticker....they won't repair it. Only they issue the sticker. You can change parts from 2 phone into 1 but they will know
That's why it is 1 number......always the same one
You can't just make your own number or have 1 sticker and different parts and expect them to repair it
Basicly he has no WARRANTY
That's all
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Soory mate, i can't understand your wording.
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All these phones have NO warranty
REFURBISHED
Its more common than you think
Every company that manufacturers phones does this
LG put the sticker on...not Amazon
There is no person selling online Amazon making his own stamps and stickers
LG FIXED the phone made it look nice and put a sticker. That's why they use the same number.
They have a database.
That's all there to it
You can put 2 phones into 1 and make yourself a new phone.....what's the difference? You are paying LG anyway. Its going to cost you for the second phone to have 2 to make 1
At least if you have this phone number you know it was repaired by LG not blow joe
LG Refurbishes the phone and doesn't give warranty? So what's the point in buying phone that can't die any second? Is it even legal to sell things without any warranty? And how u know it was repaired by LG if i can put 505 board into some dead 404 G4 and it will be the same?
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LG Refurbishes the phone and doesn't give warranty? So what's the point in buying phone that can't die any second? Is it even legal to sell things without any warranty? And how u know it was repaired by LG if i can put 505 board into some dead 404 G4 and it will be the same?
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It is sold as REFURBISHED.....there is no lie about this. Warranty usually 60 days... If there is one
Why would you want to put a 505 board into a 404?
A 404 doesn't really exist. A 404 is a 505 608 701 or any number you can think of that has failed and has been repaired, casing changed by LG and stickered. It is now REFURBUSHED
The phone you have if it breaks, you return it to store... LG repairs it. It is now a 404 .....JUST THE STICKER changed to next person that buys it
There is no 404 model. A 404 is a sticker given to a repaired phone
The inside was not swapped out. It was repaired
The only guarantee you have is the phone works when it left factory, you have to pay for additional warranty, or you return it to Amazon after you receive jt
The only person that lied here is the Amazon seller. Claiming that it was brand new
If you buy one of these phones your not paying full price what it is going for at the time
You get what you pay for.
Go to any electronics store and ask them if they have a REFURBUSHED TV cell phone DVD player ..... And ask them what price is of refurbished compared to brand new and what is warranty on it
You are saving money by having no warranty
That's what happens when you buy off Ebay or Amazon.....you are looking for a deal
Otherwise you'd go to mobile store and pay full price
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If I offer to sell you a Refurbished LG G8 with 60 days warranty for 1000 dollars instead of 1300 with 1 year are you going to buy it?
If you buy that LG G8 for 1300 at it needs repair in 1 year I send you a new one....LG is repairing your phone, changing casing putting a sticker it that says 404 serial number and sells it to wholesaler it is now also 1000 dollars
Still has the same serial number
Sticker says 404
Ahhh! Now i get what u mean! I guess u are right, but I would still contact LG to confirm that this phone is legit or smth. If it was bought as brand new it isn't true as u said.
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Ahhh! Now i get what u mean! I guess u are right, but I would still contact LG to confirm that this phone is legit or smth. If it was bought as brand new it isn't true as u said.
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Well like said it when it is Refurbished it is repaired, casing was and sticker was changed to 404
When they change the casing....that mean cosmetically now it will be perfect. They throw in new charger...new box...
Really looks like a brand new LG phone. Thats why some people choose this instead of buying from someone.
I doubt LG will offer anything. They know you have purchased at lower cost
You could always try....but remember you chose to pay less. They will likely not honor you anything
Tip: don't buy electronics online off eBay and amazon... Or ship it back in time before your return policy is up
So, i had the bootloop issue happening to me on my S/N 506 MB. From what I've gathered, 506 means that its manufactured june 2015. Now my new MB has S/N 703. March 2017?!
Also, the phone was shipped from retailer, repaired and shipped back to me in 4 days. In Norway, this means that the repair shop must have had the MB in storage (every other repair usually takes 2-3 weeks, even the retailer was really surprised). Looks like LG actually re-manufactured MBs and distributed them to the repair shops.
The same happende to Me and my wifes G4 (2 months later) , both with sn 506 last summer, also in Norway got it repaird and shipped back in 5 days, exellent service :good: and Yes they are very aware of what the issue is with the MB on the G4 but I got a sn 609 MB replacement that has worked great!
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So, i had the bootloop issue happening to me on my S/N 506 MB. From what I've gathered, 506 means that its manufactured june 2015. Now my new MB has S/N 703. March 2017?!
Also, the phone was shipped from retailer, repaired and shipped back to me in 4 days. In Norway, this means that the repair shop must have had the MB in storage (every other repair usually takes 2-3 weeks, even the retailer was really surprised). Looks like LG actually re-manufactured MBs and distributed them to the repair shops.
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not necessarily, im putting my bet on them repairing bootlooping motherboards with "fixed socs"
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not necessarily, im putting my bet on them repairing bootlooping motherboards with "fixed socs"
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Nah, they changed the entire motherboard. Changing the chipsets is more work and would cost more money.
se1988 said:
Nah, they changed the entire motherboard. Changing the chipsets is more work and would cost more money.
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I am not sure how a brand new motherboard costs less than reballing a single chip.
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I am not sure how a brand new motherboard costs less than reballing a single chip.
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quick change mass production motherboard cost less than paying for the extra labour (which is really expensive in Norway). Maybe that's why they change mobos in Norway without any hassle, but users in other countries have to fight to even get to send it back
Question: was the repair free, and did you still have warranty? my g4 just bootlooped and my warranty is gone, and for some reason lg wont tell me if im still covered for a free replacement until i send the phone to them, which in itself costs quite a bit, so i dont know what to do
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Question: was the repair free, and did you still have warranty? my g4 just bootlooped and my warranty is gone, and for some reason lg wont tell me if im still covered for a free replacement until i send the phone to them, which in itself costs quite a bit, so i dont know what to do
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I got it repaired free under warranty, the phone was under 1 year old. However, in Norway we have 2-5 years warranty for electronics (but that wont last if the EU regulations apply soon).
Also, a quick google revealed LGs official stance on the topic:
LG Electronics has been made aware of a booting issue with the LG G4 smartphone that has now been identified as resulting from a loose contact between components. Customers who are experiencing booting issues with their LG G4s should contact their local carrier from where the G4 was purchased or a nearby LG Service Center (www.lg.com/common) for repair under full warranty.
Customers who purchased their G4 devices from non-carrier retailers should contact an LG Service Center with the understanding that warranty conditions will differ. LG Electronics is committed to providing the highest standards of product quality and customer service and apologizes for the inconvenience caused to some of our customers who initially received incorrect diagnoses.
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