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From what I've been reading, my EVO will stop charging when it reaches 100% but maintain an appearance of a 100% level until it is disconnected, resulting in a large drop to its actual level after a few minutes of use. Using JuicePlotter, i find that my phone finishes charging around 3am; however i don't wake up to use it until at least 6:30. In the first 10 minutes disconnected from the wall, i'm already below 90%.
My first question: Is there an app that allows the EVO to continuously charge even after it is full?
My proposal: Using Tasker, or some other app, to have the phone turn off charging or run some battery intensive apps when the phone reaches 99%. Then turn on charging or turn off those apps when the phone reaches 98%. These are just guesstimate numbers but you get the idea. My thought is that the phone will cycle through these two tasks continuously through the night so that by the time i wake up, i'll have at least 98% charge left on my phone.
My second question: What kind of damage would this do to the battery and/or phone after long term use?
Any answers or comments would be appreciated.
I can give you the following suggestion. Put your alarm clock to ring at 3am. When you wake up, unplug/plug the charger into the phone and hit the snooze button at 15 min intervals. Each time you are woken up every 15 mins, you repeat the unplug/plug routine. This way, you will be able to keep topping off your battery until it's 6:30am. This is the only way to "trickle" charge your phone, while still being able to sleep.
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I can give you the following suggestion. Put your alarm clock to ring at 3am. When you wake up, unplug/plug the charger into the phone and hit the snooze button at 15 min intervals. Each time you are woken up every 15 mins, you repeat the unplug/plug routine. This way, you will be able to keep topping off your battery until it's 6:30am. This is the only way to "trickle" charge your phone, while still being able to sleep.
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That didn't help me...at all. Why don't you take your Village People-looking Android avatar, hop into your inadequate blue Civic, and speed off into the sunset.
ninjoe8 said:
That didn't help me...at all. Why don't you take your Village People-looking Android avatar, hop into your inadequate blue Civic, and speed off into the sunset.
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Are you allergic to humor?
If you read between the lines you'll see he actually have you good advice, if you don't take it literally.
When you wake up unplug your phone and plug it back in.
By the time you have your coffee, take your morning dump, and get your teeth brushed your phone will almost definitely be sitting at 100%..
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I can give you the following suggestion. Put your alarm clock to ring at 3am. When you wake up, unplug/plug the charger into the phone and hit the snooze button at 15 min intervals. Each time you are woken up every 15 mins, you repeat the unplug/plug routine. This way, you will be able to keep topping off your battery until it's 6:30am. This is the only way to "trickle" charge your phone, while still being able to sleep.
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That didn't help me...at all. Why don't you take your Village People-looking Android avatar, hop into your inadequate blue Civic, and speed off into the sunset.
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LMAO!!!!
I can't figure out which one made me laugh more!!!!
On a side note it is actually good advice... but also check your up time and running time and make sure they aren't the same. Mine did the same thing until I found out that eBuddy was keeping my phone awake 100% and would drop my battery instantly.
nebenezer said:
Are you allergic to humor?
If you read between the lines you'll see he actually have you good advice, if you don't take it literally.
When you wake up unplug your phone and plug it back in.
By the time you have your coffee, take your morning dump, and get your teeth brushed your phone will almost definitely be sitting at 100%..
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I didn't know that XDA rules required you to post answers to questions WITHIN idiotic jokes. This whole time i haven't been reading between the lines! OH NO!
In response to what you've deciphered from his post: I know you can unplug and plug it in. But from what i've been seeing with people's usb ports breaking, i'm trying to limit how many times i connect my phone to a charger.
I just unplug my phone when I wake up, check my emails, facebook, all that, then plug it back in while I'm in the shower. It's back to 100% by the time I'm ready to leave.
nebenezer said:
get your teeth brushed
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By the way he came off, I don't think he has any.
ninjoe8 said:
That didn't help me...at all. Why don't you take your Village People-looking Android avatar, hop into your inadequate blue Civic, and speed off into the sunset.
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! literally!!!!! :spit:
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I didn't know that XDA rules required you to post answers to questions WITHIN idiotic jokes. This whole time i haven't been reading between the lines! OH NO!
In response to what you've deciphered from his post: I know you can unplug and plug it in. But from what i've been seeing with people's usb ports breaking, i'm trying to limit how many times i connect my phone to a charger.
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... so unplug it from the wall...
clamknuckle said:
I just unplug my phone when I wake up, check my emails, facebook, all that, then plug it back in while I'm in the shower. It's back to 100% by the time I'm ready to leave.
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do a google search for "broken evo port" and read some of the horror stories. i try to limit myself to only charging my phone once per day and have made every attempt to make sure my battery lasts longer than stock to restrict wearing away the port.
it seems like everyone's saying the same thing about unplugging and plugging the phone, but wouldn't it be nice if we didn't have to do that? i'm just proposing a possible way to do it and wondering if there's any side-effects in doing so.
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do a google search for "broken evo port" and read some of the horror stories. i try to limit myself to only charging my phone once per day and have made every attempt to make sure my battery lasts longer than stock to restrict wearing away the port.
it seems like everyone's saying the same thing about unplugging and plugging the phone, but wouldn't it be nice if we didn't have to do that? i'm just proposing a possible way to do it and wondering if there's any side-effects in doing so.
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1. Wake up
2. Unplug
3. Plug back in
4. Go take a crap, make sure you WIPE (pun intended)
5. Phone at 100%
How difficult is that? On day's when you have the ****s, then you might need to modify the above procedure.
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1. Wake up
2. Unplug
3. Plug back in
4. Go take a crap, make sure you WIPE (pun intended)
5. Phone at 100%
How difficult is that? On day's when you have the ****s, then you might need to modify the above procedure.
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Can you simplify this to one step or less, or make it a one-click app?
This guide is too confusing..
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1. Wake up
2. Unplug
3. Plug back in
4. Go take a crap, make sure you WIPE (pun intended)
5. Phone at 100%
How difficult is that? On day's when you have the ****s, then you might need to modify the above procedure.
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HondaCop. I have to apologize. The seething hatred I have for poorly made japanese cars and the trauma i suffered at the hands of a cartoon park ranger has made me a little biased towards your replies.
I am merely trying to skip a step to get better battery life. How difficult is that to understand? Seriously, if you don't have anything more useful to say than something i've already heard twice on this thread, then i suggest you go back on patrol, officer. Put in enough overtime and you just might get those flame decals for your car.
The broken ports are few and far between man.
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HondaCop. I have to apologize. The seething hatred I have for poorly made japanese cars and the trauma i suffered at the hands of a cartoon park ranger has made me a little biased towards your replies.
I am merely trying to skip a step to get better battery life. How difficult is that to understand? Seriously, if you don't have anything more useful to say than something i've already heard twice on this thread, then i suggest you go back on patrol, officer. Put in enough overtime and you just might get those flame decals for your car.
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This whole charging thing has been discussed ad-nauseum and it's common knowledge to simply just unplug and re-plug. Problem solved. No need to create complex algorithms, formulas or apps just to simplify this.
If waking up in the morning to top off the phone is too much work for you, you can always have your sister, oops I mean wife, do it for you before you go and wash your one tooth.
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you can always have your sister, oops I mean wife, do it for you before you go and wash your one tooth.
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Zing! I honestly miss the jokes from high school. I imagine next you'll pull out a "your mom" line. I still don't get why you're dead set on the teeth jokes. Seriously RoboCop wannabe, just leave. You've already ruined my thread and i'm now debating whether to destroy the civic parked across the street from my office.
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You've already ruined my thread
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA This really made my day. I bet you was very proud of your creation, huh? It was ruined the moment you clicked the Post New Thread button.
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That didn't help me...at all. Why don't you take your Village People-looking Android avatar, hop into your inadequate blue Civic, and speed off into the sunset.
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This is the post that ruined your thread..
After a couple days, what are your feels?
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After a couple days, what are your feels?
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I like it, my issues are not with the hardware, although I won't lie and say I don't wish for more battery life. My issues are with how beta android wear feels. Hopefully google will give it some TLC, but google seems like a company that puts a lot of effort into something, releases it then forgets it.
Anyhoo, especially after seeing the atrocity that is the apple watch I'm going to keep my 360 and of course eventually grab a Note 4. It's kind of a gimmick right now, but at least it's a nice looking gimmick and I'll give google the benefit of the doubt.
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I have no problems with the speed of it - haven't noticed any stuttering or anything that people have mentioned. However, the battery is complete crap. I tried to use it today when I played 18 holes of golf w/ the Swing by Swing app (which actually works _very_ well w/ the watch, showing distance and letting you input your scores on the watch). The watch went from 95% to 0% on hole 12, about 3 hours in (slow play!). I only turned the watch on a few times a hole and didn't get any messages or anything in the meanwhile. The watch has also gone from 100% to 5% when used as a sleep tracker for 5 1/2 hours.
It's OK. I realized from day one that this is SQUARELY first/early adopter territory. As far as the battery goes, luckily, recharging takes only a little time. I found the secret is the mid day recharge. I turned off ambient mode and my phone was at 75% after almost 5 hours. Over lunch I tossed it on an old Nokia charger I had for 20 minutes and had over 90%. Right now it's 8:30p and I have 60%.
Midday charge while you're at the desk for 20 minutes erases all worries. Should you have to do it... No. But if you do it eliminates a pretty annoying issue.
The leather band annoys me, because I hate leather bands. The Pebble bands don't do it for me, just my opinion sorry, just being honest. Was it so fu^king hard to allow enough room for any band? The "notch" is just a slap in the face.
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It's OK. I realized from day one that this is SQUARELY first/early adopter territory. As far as the battery goes, luckily, recharging takes only a little time. I found the secret is the mid day recharge. I turned off ambient mode and my phone was at 75% after almost 5 hours. Over lunch I tossed it on an old Nokia charger I had for 20 minutes and had over 90%. Right now it's 8:30p and I have 60%.
Midday charge while you're at the desk for 20 minutes erases all worries. Should you have to do it... No. But if you do it eliminates a pretty annoying issue.
The leather band annoys me, because I hate leather bands. The Pebble bands don't do it for me, just my opinion sorry, just being honest. Was it so fu^king hard to allow enough room for any band? The "notch" is just a slap in the face.
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Yep, we all have to realize we are kind of alpha testing here. The Moto 360 version 2 will probably be decent, and version 3 will be awesome.
And maybe by the next version Motorola find a way to keep the small bezel and have a fully round screen.
I agree, it's OK. I sold my Gear 2 to get this because I didn't like the square/plastic combo, and thought I didn't like the OS, but frankly the way the interface worked was much better than Android Wear. It had a great looking display and got 3-4 days of battery life!
But it's a watch, so looks mean a lot... I may have to return this bad boy and wait for the LG R, or the Moto 362, lol...
-My only hope is that since this is Android there will be some decent development happening, but after reading some posts I'm not so sure...
I'm in the UK so still waiting for it to be released here. Blessing in disguise for me as I'm not one to be an early adopter so by the time it is released, I'll have the wealth of knowledge from US user comments/reviews before I pull the trigger on it.
I think the device is doing quite well for a first release. The battery on ambient mode lasts all the way until I get home from work and will last a workout as well counting all my steps and monitoring my heart rate several times. I also think overall the watch looks pretty executive. Has a professional look and feel to it. Can't help but think all the square smart watches are too "kid-like".
As previously mentioned, once android wear adds features and apps start catching up I think there is really great potential for the device.
I love it. Does what I need it to do, which is notify me and let me respond to texts and certain apps. I can use it for navigation and some Google questions. I take it off the charger around 6am and by the time i charge it at night (around 10pm) it still has 30-40%. I am a light user... meaning, I dont need (and turned off) Google Now (watch telling me info w/out asking). I don't care for step count or heart rate cuz I run at night anyway. I dont care to add games or browsing apps on it. That is what my phone is for. What I use it for may not be worth $250, but its the best looking (IMO) and there are not much AW options out right now.
Just glad I don't have to constantly check my phone for any important notifications from work or family.
The only thing i wish it had was a speaker phone.
I'm on my 4th day and really like it but I'll be honest I wished Samsung had a round watch and running Android Wear all because I plan to get the Note 4.
Besides that my battery seemed to improve with every charge. Only thing I wish was to be able to turn off vibration and still see notifications when it comes. So far if I scroll top to bottom it will turn off vibration and notifications. Unless I'm doing it wrong.
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After the 1st day of having it I thought I would sell it because I didn't think the watch did much and I thought I'd be judged by friends and coworkers for buying a smart watch (half kidding) but android wear has grown on me and everyone who's seen it loves it.
Curious to see if anyone use the google fit app along with thier watch? I've noticed that the two are no synced (# of steps recorded from Fit greatly differs from watch - which makes sense as my phone is not always on me when I move around).
so how do sync the data from my watch to be shown on the google fit app? or is that only shown on another app (like moto body or something else)?
basically, I want to use the Fit app to record my weight and see the metrics of my steps, heart rate, etc. but I only want the steps to be recorded from the watch.
thanks!
I think you have to bear in mind that fitness-wise any smartwatch (even those with GPS on board) will never be anything more but a compromise for a real fitness watch. It's a nice to have for a smartwatch and maybe data aquisition quality improves in the future but I'm sure this remains playground.
I am seriously pissed with google fit. before i got it, my watch did pretty well taking my steps. now it only takes them when i carry my phone and it resets midday all the time, ex. it said 125 steps at 10 am then 34 at 3 pm. wtf! I like the look and how it keeps records, but im going to delete it soon.
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I am seriously pissed with google fit. before i got it, my watch did pretty well taking my steps. now it only takes them when i carry my phone and it resets midday all the time, ex. it said 125 steps at 10 am then 34 at 3 pm. wtf! I like the look and how it keeps records, but im going to delete it soon.
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That could be related to how the app syncs with the watch. Check the app settings in android wear.
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That could be related to how the app syncs with the watch. Check the app settings in android wear.
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yeah i did that. i had to switch my heart rate and steps to moto body. moto body told me i took ~2800 steps where google fit said 169 steps for the whole day. 2800 is way closer, still low i feel, but 169 is no where close.
As of now, Google Fit on the phone does not sync to the watch.
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As of now, Google Fit on the phone does not sync to the watch.
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right - even though the details on the app on the market says that it does.
Yeah mine is not working too
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Not sure about others but since I installed Fit on my phone, my phone battery has taken a hit. I have since disabled it.
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Not sure about others but since I installed Fit on my phone, my phone battery has taken a hit. I have since disabled it.
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Me too. I left a review on the app in the market. If enough people do, then perhaps they'll adjust it.
I don't have an issue with Google Fit.
I occassionally walk around with my phone on my desk, or with my watch charging (and my phone in my pocket).
Initally the steps are out of sync, but once Fit sync's the data, they match up (ie if watch is showing 1500 steps, and phone is showing 400 steps, within 15-20mins of sitting at my desk, I'll check, and my steps have been updated to 1900 in google Fit.
By the end of the day, my Google Fit steps usually matches my Moto Step count.
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I don't have an issue with Google Fit.
I occassionally walk around with my phone on my desk, or with my watch charging (and my phone in my pocket).
Initally the steps are out of sync, but once Fit sync's the data, they match up (ie if watch is showing 1500 steps, and phone is showing 400 steps, within 15-20mins of sitting at my desk, I'll check, and my steps have been updated to 1900 in google Fit.
By the end of the day, my Google Fit steps usually matches my Moto Step count.
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In the android wear app, what app is synced with steps - moto body steps or google fit?
Google Fit for steps, Moto Heart Rate for heart rate.
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Google Fit for steps, Moto Heart Rate for heart rate.
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I re-enabled activity detection, and my steps began to sync - however, the phone's steps count appear to override the watch's step count. for example, I noticed this morning on my watch that my step count was 147, but the phone read 93. when I pulled down the step count on the phone to force a sync, the watch suddenly read 93. I would like for the watch to override the phone on this statistic, but not sure how.
Well, I installed google fit yesterday and took a long walk today i expect that the data was different in watch and phone but... it sync; the data in watch and phone is the same, the past data was not sync but i don't care.
Due to battery drain problem, I turned off location history , don't know why the Google fit forced to use location history . if you do the location on /off frequently, it will screwed up the syncing, the logic is the phone steps overriding watch , most of the time , I did not bring my phone out while going for a long exercise. It is mad to see my watch's steps of 10000 being reset to the phone value and the wrong recording being pushed to my watch steps history.
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This. Happens to me constantly. As a result, I uninstalled Google Fit. Presumably when I update to Lollipop I'll have to disable it. Candidly, it seems like a very minor bit of code to fix the issue but it's not there yet. As a result, I just use Moto Body, though I wish that they had an app to monitor it as well. Incidentally, having removed Google Fit, I can share that my battery life has improved dramatically.
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Due to battery drain problem, I turned off location history , don't know why the Google fit forced to use location history . if you do the location on /off frequently, it will screwed up the syncing, the logic is the phone steps overriding watch , most of the time , I did not bring my phone out while going for a long exercise. It is mad to see my watch's steps of 10000 being reset to the phone value and the wrong recording being pushed to my watch steps history.
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Update to fit app (and android wear too). We'll see if they corrected the battery drain issues.
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Update to fit app (and android wear too). We'll see if they corrected the battery drain issues.
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I Really regret buying the moto365 now. I think I am just going to sell this thing when the up3 comes out and wait for a few years before I go back to a smart watch. Google fit is an absolute joke compared to just about any other fitness tracking software you can find. I had a Fitbit Surge for a while and it was extremely accurate but the bands are too small for even an average sized man. So that went back for a refund.
Very disappointed.
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Does anyone else feel that the heart rate monitor is useless.
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Does anyone else feel that the heart rate monitor is useless.
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true.. i wish they replace the sensor with a bigger battery.. or a compass at least
even if it work.. i still dont know.. why we should know our hear beat?! to make it useful it should work as heartbeat loop!
I don't think it's accurate and yes, I can easily live without it.
I find it handy when going for a run. I wish it would send the data to google fit or keep the heart rate data in-conjunction with weather, incline, steps etc...
I have dobbel checked my heart rate, and HW Censor works fine ! For me all ok .
Yes. Heart rate monitor is retarded. I guess if you use it for working out but if your serious you would have a more accurate dedicated unit.
The pedometer is also stupid to have on your wrist. I can be at me desk all day working and it says made like 6,000 steps. A pedometer should be at your waste.
Useless stuff like that are just gimmicks. Watches are for assisting with notifications.
From doing comparisions with a proper heart rate monitor the one on the W1 does seem quite accurate to be fair. None the less I don't really see the pint in having one on such a high end smartwatch, I can't imagine I'll ever wear this thing whilst working out.
I find the heart rate sensor to be useless if the band is not tight enough. Other than that, it stops working if too much sweat builds up.
Yes, this is useless for me at least. If it does not monitor during workout it can not alarm you on reaching your limit.
Not quite related but does anyone know why there is such a big discrepancy in step counts between Huawei fitness tracking and Google fit? Google gives me about 1000 steps more then Huawei.
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Step counter is stupid on a wrist. I work at my desk and it says I walked 5000+ steps. Bahaha yea right.
The heart rate monitor is also a gimmick. I honestly never used it. I guess some people would.
I was hoping to ditch my fitness tracker and have the Huawei watch be my single wearable, but the heart rate monitor is not up to the task. It does give a pretty accurate reading for me, but only at rest. I've tried exercising with it a few times and the monitor just stops recording after a few minutes. Sigh. I've gone back to using the Garmin Vivosmart HR for workouts.
As for step counting, the problem is exacerbated by being left handed. Doing things like brushing teeth, eating, etc. will add bogus numbers to my step counts. Since most, if not all, watches are designed to be worn on the left wrist this is a problem for us lefties. I started wearing the Garmin on my right wrist and find the false step padding to be less of an issue.
Bottom line is I'm still pleased that I got the watch, it's just not as useful as I was hoping for. Looking forward to the Marshmallow update...
^ditto! I mostly use this cool watch for exercise! Bring on marshmallow...
I use it for my sleep tracking, Sleep like android is great for this and does full all night tracking. I can have my watch on me all day, and tracking at night (double click to turn screen off so the battery lasts) and it charges in the AM while I get ready for work. My only issue is being on all night sometimes seems to start to burn my skin. I have to take it off my left, and put it on my right at night so my left can "heal".
i have used hearth rate only a few times in 1 month but now it don't works anymore ( like wrist gestures). I Will wait 1.4 firmware before sending it back to amazon. factory reset was useless
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I use it for my sleep tracking, Sleep like android is great for this and does full all night tracking. I can have my watch on me all day, and tracking at night (double click to turn screen off so the battery lasts) and it charges in the AM while I get ready for work. My only issue is being on all night sometimes seems to start to burn my skin. I have to take it off my left, and put it on my right at night so my left can "heal".
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Sorry for off topic, but what is your thougths after tracking your sleep, did it change your quality of life or you are more aware of something than without this feature? what is adres value of this, do you sleep better, deeper, longer?
I use sleep monitors for already a few years (started with sleep as an droid, then miband, now hwatch). And yes: it improves hugely how i wake up. It awakes me earlier than alarm, but i feel less tired when I wake up, compared to without monitoring...
But it depends on how your personal sleep-habits are. If you almost always sleep well and feel good in the morning, you'll likely not have the benefit of the feature.
As for the skin: regularly clean your watch on the skin side with isopropyl alcohol.
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Everything is in the title. I got a count of 10 140 on the watch but, in the Health app, my count is at 14 300 steps. I read, on other forums that it was because the app still count your steps with the phone sensor, even if you're not wearing the watch.
In my case, it shouldn't matter since I wore both, the phone and the watch for the entire day. There should be no difference between the two. Before I return the watch to the seller, is there a solution to this problem?
I also till this day did not find a solution. I have the exact same problem. Problem is cused by Huawei Health app, every just slight movement of a phone is considered as a step and than summed up with watch counted steps. Stupid as f..k
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I also till this day did not find a solution. I have the exact same problem. Problem is cused by Huawei Health app, every just slight movement of a phone is considered as a step and than summed up with watch counted steps. Stupid as f..k
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Absolutely true. The step count is highly inaccurate. Every little move of the hand (if you're using a Huawei Watch) or the slightest step would be counted as 1 step. I'd say it has a ~ 40 % error rate and I don't think I would be exaggerating.