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I'm relatively new to android but have a computer background. I'm rooted and have flashed about a dozen or so different ROMS but ended up back to stock for a few of the TW features. I've been keeping an eye on my battery lately and noticing a extremely high number of wake ups from my maps application. Last night specifically I went to bed at 11:30ish with 39% batt life remaining. I woke up and 7am and I have 19% remaining. Phone wasn't in use at all. I had 3 emails and a google+ message come through over night. Looking at GSam Battery monitor maps has very high usage for something i'm really not using at all. it used 15% of my battery coming in below the kernal at 15.4% and the android system at 28.5%. The phone was held awake for a total of 1h 11m in the last 14h by maps alone and had 1743 wake ups.
I have since gone in and turned off location services. I was not using latitude or anything. Not using GPS although I do leave it on. I have google now installed and really liked the fact it would give me driving info when it was my usual time to head to or from work. The alerts for traffic for calendar appointments was also awesome so i'd preferably like to keep those working if possible.
If anyone has any info that could help it would be greatly appreciated!
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You could try freezing maps with titanium backup. Not sure what effects it will have on anything else though. Just a suggestion.
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You could try freezing maps with titanium backup. Not sure what effects it will have on anything else though. Just a suggestion.
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Well I use maps all the time. I just didn't happen to be using it in the last charge cycle. So far this morning I went into the maps settings and toggled locatoins settings- report from this device to off. I'm currently charging (off my laptop so it's slow) and once I'm at 100% I can run another cycle and see if it's made any difference. So far it looks like the number has stayed the same.
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Well I use maps all the time. I just didn't happen to be using it in the last charge cycle. So far this morning I went into the maps settings and toggled locatoins settings- report from this device to off. I'm currently charging (off my laptop so it's slow) and once I'm at 100% I can run another cycle and see if it's made any difference. So far it looks like the number has stayed the same.
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I've seem many posts about this. Its a known issue unfortunately. Like you've already done, make sure location reporting is off and that latitude is disabled.
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I've seem many posts about this. Its a known issue unfortunately. Like you've already done, make sure location reporting is off and that latitude is disabled.
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Yeah i've seen some posts but Latitude was off and most of the other instructions for disabling more services were for different devices so the setting paths were different. Maybe this will actually work. I've noticed a bunch of wakes preventing periods of deep sleep as well. crossing my fingers I solved it myself.
small update, looks like turning off the location history does stop google now from working with the traffic updates. While I really like this service, i'm not sure it's worth the battery life it's taking to fuel it. Could be related to using a port of google now with ICS and not official jelly bean, at least that is what i'm hoping.
Well it looks like I got maps fixed but now the system is crushing my battery. I'll let the screenshots do the speaking. Really looking for someone with some expertise to help me out. I'm lost other than switching to a CM10 ROM.
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Turn Off Location Settings
Try turning off your LATITUDE LOCATION SHARING. That seems to work for a lot of people that reported the same issue. Its under System Setttings > Accounts > Google > Maps & Latitude
That's been off. Fixed the maps but now system is going crazy. This just started yesterday. I'm planning on re flashing stock and starting over
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I'm sure you have, but im just gonna ask the obvious. Have you rebooted?
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I'm sure you have, but im just gonna ask the obvious. Have you rebooted?
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Not only have I rebooted, I did a Titanium backup of my apps, factory reset, and only restored my apps. no system settings.
The only thing I can think of is that I installed a few packages to enhance the stock rom. I'm going to flash over a completely fresh version and go from there.
Oh wow, well good luck! I would recommend looking at CM10 tho. Been using it for a month or two now and haven't looked back.
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Oh wow, well good luck! I would recommend looking at CM10 tho. Been using it for a month or two now and haven't looked back.
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I really liked CM10, a lot. I just miss some of the reasons I bought this phone. Swiping contacts to text/call, motion settings, video playback pip. If they could ever get those on CM10...
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Confirm the following option is unchecked:
Maps/Settings/Location settings/Report from this device.
If it is checked, uncheck it.
Here's the difference in battery life -
About half the battery drain with the option unchecked.
Thanks for the tip
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It looks exactly the same lol. Just one was running on battery longer than the other?
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It looks exactly the same lol. Just one was running on battery longer than the other?
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What are you talking about? Did you zoom in to see screen on/awake usage? Both are about 7.5 hours of idle time.
I updated my phone to JB and followed the battery saving measures and the battery is dropping very quickly.
Before it could last up to 3 days in standby, now I'll be surprised if it lasts 8 hours.
I'll give it another day then try a factory reset if it does not improve.
Anybody else seeing this?
I have watchdog on the phone and it shows zero cpu off time.
Just install better battery stats, there is also a way to dump the same info in terminal but I don't use it. You are looking for alarms apps cause. It's most likely maps, followed by talk, exchange client, or anything like Twitter, FB,g+,stocks.... but most likely maps location settings
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I have been doing a lot of research and the end result is that JB out of the box will eat your battery and yes disabling the settings under maps does in fact help a lot but there is a lot more you can do to get good life... for starters get the simple stuff out of the way, DELETE FACEBOOK MOBILE APP!!!...and twitter and anything that actively accesses the internet in the background... I know this may sound taxing but it is so worth it if yiu just make a bookmark in your browser and view it periodically than have an always active app... next if you are not in a primarily lte covered area set your phone to cdma only... go into settings and go to data usage and here you can see what is using data in the background I.e. facebook... and go there and check the restrict app box.., disable auto brightness and some have said that if you disable sprint connection manager thing you can do even more.... now that one I cannot be sure about I will post results in the coming days of what I find
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I have been doing a lot of research and the end result is that JB out of the box will eat your battery and yes disabling the settings under maps does in fact help a lot but there is a lot more you can do to get good life... for starters get the simple stuff out of the way, DELETE FACEBOOK MOBILE APP!!!...and twitter and anything that actively accesses the internet in the background... I know this may sound taxing but it is so worth it if yiu just make a bookmark in your browser and view it periodically than have an always active app... next if you are not in a primarily lte covered area set your phone to cdma only... go into settings and go to data usage and here you can see what is using data in the background I.e. facebook... and go there and check the restrict app box.., disable auto brightness and some have said that if you disable sprint connection manager thing you can do even more.... now that one I cannot be sure about I will post results in the coming days of what I find
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You are pretty much correct the FB app sucks but I never really had much problems with it.
A lot of these tips though in general (not directed towards you) are stupid.
Like someone said a while ago I refuse to gimp my phone to sip a little bit more life out of it. What's the use of having a smartphone if you're not going to use it like one.
I always have high brightness unless its dark out. I broke my syncs intervals up to about 4 hours per sync and have push notifications from twitter and weather.
With those apps all I have to do is refresh when I enter the app having those syncing all the time is worthless unless you're constantly checking every 10 seconds.
I say I get fairly decent battery life granted I'm on wifi most the time and 7-8 hours with about 2 hrs screen on playing HD games youtube poweramp and my background processes.
Well in regards to the act of extending the life of your battery these are simply tips that you can utilize in the event you are someone who is out for extreme amounts of time.... I average anywhere from 13 to 17 hrs of battery life with 100% brightness, wifi 3g all of my favorite apps... instagram xda kik kindle Skype etc. And 5 to 6 hrs of screen on time. .. so these gimping tactics more than double my phones live time and doubles my life.... but hey if you can get to a charger after 8hrs by all means but for the most part I cannot until after 13 but i do in fact appreciate your incite
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Also even though you are disabling sone of these apps like google now.... you can still use it your just turning off the background nonsense
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OZGBLACK said:
Well in regards to the act of extending the life of your battery these are simply tips that you can utilize in the event you are someone who is out for extreme amounts of time.... I average anywhere from 13 to 17 hrs of battery life with 100% brightness, wifi 3g all of my favorite apps... instagram xda kik kindle Skype etc. And 5 to 6 hrs of screen on time. .. so these gimping tactics more than double my phones live time and doubles my life.... but hey if you can get to a charger after 8hrs by all means but for the most part I cannot until after 13 but i do in fact appreciate your incite
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what rom and kernel are u using
Even with changing that setting in Maps I still am not getting the same battery life as I did with ICS. Maps is still coming up as my most used app when I check battery usage even though I rarely use it. Wonder if it may be Google Now causing Maps to keep running.
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What are you talking about? Did you zoom in to see screen on/awake usage? Both are about 7.5 hours of idle time.
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Oh wow. Sorry from my phone I couldn't zoom in. I see now lol. Thought I saw 90 and 89 or something like that
I had the Maps setting turned off for a few days and also had A LOT of stuff disabled, but unfortunately my battery life (and my wife's as well) wasn't as good as ICS, and quite a bit worse actually.
Sadly, today, it looks like I figured out what the killer is:
Google Now.
This morning, 100% charged, I turned it off. My wife (who still had it on) and I were out and about together for about four hours, we both barely used out phones for that time. When we got home I checked both phones: I was at 96%, she was at 80%.
The only difference that I hadn't already accounted for:
Google Now.
So, unfortunately, it looks to me like one of the two biggest reasons for wanting JB in the first place (Butter being the other of course) turns out to be a big battery hog I don't yet know if there's maybe some setting within it that is a specific problem or if it's the whole thing in general... maybe you just need to disable a card or change an update frequency or something (I didn't touch any so I'm running whatever the defaults are), I don't know yet... but all indications are that's where the problem lies.
That, my friends, sucks.
Well since my phone has calmed down I am getting 13-16 hr easily. Brightness maxed of course and about 4-6 screen on time I will never cripple my phone. Hell I bought it so I can use not to look at. Lol thanks for the post of this though if I'm ever I. A die hard , situation I'll know what to do
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Orbiting234 said:
Even with changing that setting in Maps I still am not getting the same battery life as I did with ICS. Maps is still coming up as my most used app when I check battery usage even though I rarely use it. Wonder if it may be Google Now causing Maps to keep running.
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Google Now uses the "Report from this device" and "Enable location history" maps location settings to determine your driving patterns so it can suggest alternative routes and report traffic delays. Disabling "Enable location history" will disable the driving pattern suggestions completely.
FWIW Settings | More settings | Mobile networks | Network mode
Changing from "CDMA" to "LTE / CDMA" has gained me better battery life. My wife also noticed the same.
(To save time, I'm cutting & pasting my post from another similar thread.)
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963689&page=3
"I have had my Galaxy S3 for a week now. Battery life stabilized after the initial syncing, etc. I updated to Jelly Bean v4.1.1 two days ago, and battery life didn't seem noticeably different. However, that was until today. My phone was off of the charger, around 10AM, and had < 5% charge by 4:30PM. I was very busy, so I was hardly using the phone all day. It was in my pocket or on my desk most of the time. One of the only settings I changed last night, was enabling 'Use wireless networks' and enabling 'Location and Google search' under 'Location Services' in 'Settings'. I just disabled both settings, and will see if the battery drain is any less tomorrow. Also, Google Now was off, and was never enabled on my phone. I'll try to post the results, if at all possible..."
So, for me, it seems to be Location Services may have caused my poor battery life, and was definitly not Google Now, as it was never enabled. I'll try using the phone with the settings off, and see if that changes anything...
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Stock stock stock jellybean ota... that's it
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I do love Jelly Bean; as it is ICS only improved or enhanced. But battery life has definitely taken a hit. I can barely make it through 24 hrs. On ICS I could do a day and a half to two days with really light use. I've tried just about everything mentioned with little change. Good thing I have an extra battery. Thank you Samsung for making a phone with a user replaceable battery.
Thanks for all the ideas/suggestions anyways,
El Mono
I noticed the huge difference as well. I was walking around Chicago yesterday and not using my phone. After 4 hours I looked and my battery was at 50 %.
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So my father recently got the GN2, but he's really disliking the battery drain compared to his old iPhone 4. He said that he could finish the day with about 70% battery leftover, whereas, Note leaves him with around 30-40%. I checked his battery usage and there's about 12-17% coming from Polaris 4.0. I already disabled it, but for some reason, it's still draining his battery. Is there anything I can do to improve his overall battery life as well as stop Polaris from being used?
Uninstall it or is it a stock app?
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Uninstall it or is it a stock app?
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Stock app, unfortunately. I have no intention of rooting it since I haven't done that in a long time and I'm just not confident with messing around with someone else's phone.
Also, I know it's a problem specific to mine since other people don't root there's and they don't have this problem.
Does anyone else know a possible issue?
Try going in and force stopping the app. I noticed apps will continue to run after disabled on occasion. Then reboot and see if it fires up again. That should stop the battery drain. N2 gets great battery life.
Does your father use the app? If not go to settings/application manager select polaris. You should see a disable or uninstall updates button. If it is the updates one, select it then go back in and hit disable button after it is done. This will remove the app from the system but not the app file itself. Will keep it from ever running again until you decide to enable it again. No root needed.
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OP stated he has already disabled the app but it continues to run/drain the battery.
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OP stated he has already disabled the app but it continues to run/drain the battery.
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Yeah, I already disabled it. I checked again today and it didn't seem to be draining battery life.
After around 12 hours of use, he only has around 60-65% left. He doesn't use the phone as much as some other people, so I'm surprised it drains as much as it does.
I'd say that's about right on stock with everything running. you could always disable everything he doesn't use and see if that helps. Also check for wake locks. I disabled fast dormancy and saw a major improvement on wake locks. Not sure if that's possible without root, but worth looking in to.
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OP stated he has already disabled the app but it continues to run/drain the battery.
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Oops. Missed that.
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Root, install Better Battery Stats, find the culprit. If uninstalling Polaris doesn't help, it could be something else.
S-Pen detection, motion settings, smart-stay, etc are all drainers. Disable them if he doesn't use them.
Location services drain too. Try installing Autostarts and disable unnecessary startups. I get a good 2-2.5 days out of the phone with ~5+ hours of screen time after doing the above.
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Root, install Better Battery Stats, find the culprit. If uninstalling Polaris doesn't help, it could be something else.
S-Pen detection, motion settings, smart-stay, etc are all drainers. Disable them if he doesn't use them.
Location services drain too. Try installing Autostarts and disable unnecessary startups. I get a good 2-2.5 days out of the phone with ~5+ hours of screen time after doing the above.
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Thanks for the tips. Didn't think about motion and s pen detection.
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Root, install Better Battery Stats, find the culprit. If uninstalling Polaris doesn't help, it could be something else.
S-Pen detection, motion settings, smart-stay, etc are all drainers. Disable them if he doesn't use them.
Location services drain too. Try installing Autostarts and disable unnecessary startups. I get a good 2-2.5 days out of the phone with ~5+ hours of screen time after doing the above.
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Good point on the S-Pen features. I disabled some. His active battery usage is quite good, but he says the standby is terrible.
Hello
I was not able to find, in all the posts about battery drain, someone with the same problem as I have.
I have should have attached my phone info, some battery usage and my highest RECORDED battery temperature.
Yes, recorded, because I'm sure I got a higher one at least once.
So, my phone is always kind of hot when it's turned off in my pocket, not under 35C.
When I use it normally, like for example while wrighting this thread, it heats up to about 40-45C
And when I use it to play games or watch videos, it goes to 45-50C and maybe higher, to a point where I can't even hold it anymore.
And I recently realized that the batrery drains really fast. I'm not sure if this was a problem before I updated to Android 5.0 but I do not think so.
What do you think I should do?
Thank you in advance and sorry for any typos!
I'd imagine part of the battery drain has to do with the phone being "awake" pretty much the entire time, even when your screen was off.
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I'd imagine part of the battery drain has to do with the phone being "awake" pretty much the entire time, even when your screen was off.
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Thank you, and how do I fix that?
I only know 2 causes that would keep the device awake. (probably much more)
1) Some funky app that keeps on running while screen is off. For example a game that you exit via Home button will cause that. Not all games, but some.
2) Google sync failing. I get that a lot when I travel to China. Since Google is blocked there it would keep syncing indefinitely.
thats all I know, hope it helps
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I only know 2 causes that would keep the device awake. (probably much more)
1) Some funky app that keeps on running while screen is off. For example a game that you exit via Home button will cause that. Not all games, but some.
2) Google sync failing. I get that a lot when I travel to China. Since Google is blocked there it would keep syncing indefinitely.
thats all I know, hope it helps
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Thank you for your help, but I do not think that's the issue as I never close any app without pressing "back" until it's closed and then closing it again in the "recent apps" menu. As for Google, it last synced a minute ago.
Laslas19 said:
Thank you for your help, but I do not think that's the issue as I never close any app without pressing "back" until it's closed and then closing it again in the "recent apps" menu. As for Google, it last synced a minute ago.
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Looking at your google play services. That's quite a bit of usage... Should look into it. Also I know there are apps out there that can better isolate the culprit, but I haven't really looked into it since I haven't had much battery issue for the longest time. Hopefully someone with better knowledge of the situation can help. I'll start by clearing data on the google play stuff.
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Looking at your google play services. That's quite a bit of usage... Should look into it. Also I know there are apps out there that can better isolate the culprit, but I haven't really looked into it since I haven't had much battery issue for the longest time. Hopefully someone with better knowledge of the situation can help. I'll start by clearing data on the google play stuff.
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I've already looked into it and researched it but I can't seem to fint something that I haven't already done. Maybe it's the Mobile Radio? If so, how do I turn it off?
Hi all,
Just wanted to put this on the table. How many over here really use the Ok Google feature on the PixelXL. Granted it's a nifty feature, but I'm having this feeling that it could be linked to high google play services battery drain that I had raised in my other thread. Ever since I factory resetted, I haven't enabled this feature yet on the phone. And, the battery drain on google play services has been quite acceptable. In the 3 days that the phone has been off the charger, the google play services' CPU usage was about 35 mins. When I had Ok Google enabled, this had gone to about 3 hours per charge cycle although I used Ok Google just once...I know it's not quite mathematically accurate...
Can anyone here share their experience with the battery drain and Ok Google feature...if there's any correlation between high google play services battery usage and Ok Google
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Hi all,
Just wanted to put this on the table. How many over here really use the Ok Google feature on the PixelXL. Granted it's a nifty feature, but I'm having this feeling that it could be linked to high google play services battery drain that I had raised in my other thread. Ever since I factory resetted, I haven't enabled this feature yet on the phone. And, the battery drain on google play services has been quite acceptable. In the 3 days that the phone has been off the charger, the google play services' CPU usage was about 35 mins. When I had Ok Google enabled, this had gone to about 3 hours per charge cycle although I used Ok Google just once...I know it's not quite mathematically accurate...
Can anyone here share their experience with the battery drain and Ok Google feature...if there's any correlation between high google play services battery usage and Ok Google
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I never did find OK Google of any use, or the newly introduced Assistant for that matter, just doesn't go with me, really inconvenient, so always had it disabled, and never noticed Play Services taking up anything significant on battery stats, but just for the sake of that disabling on screen keys with the build.prop edit, I have now enabled OK Google so I don't get the FC every time I use Assistant, I will keep an eye on the battery stats now.
If you find it not useful then have it disabled anyway.
It seems that "Ok Google" is permanently on, regardless of if you manually set up the function or not.
I've had two previous Pixels and with both had set up the feature then disabled it a few days later. When saying the command on the Home screen, it would still work.
With my current device (#3), I didn't set up the hot word search at all yet it still activates from the Home screen just the same.
I think it's only possible to disable the "Ok Google anytime" functionality. It certainly has nothing to do with Google Assistant as my phone is set to Japanese language and the Assistant doesn't even support it thus isn't active.
Anyone else notice this?
I can vouch that as long as Ok google is not enabled and the hot words are not learnt by the phone, saying Ok google will not turn the phone on...that said @TokyoGuy I'm just curious why are you on device #3 and what happened to the other 2!
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I can vouch that as long as Ok google is not enabled and the hot words are not learnt by the phone, saying Ok google will not turn the phone on...that said @TokyoGuy I'm just curious why are you on device #3 and what happened to the other 2!
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That's odd. I wonder if the problem then is specifically *because* Google Assistant isn't available in Japanese, that I can't totally disable the hotword. That's the only explanation I can think of as it's never happened before in any of the countless phones I've owned or used in the past.
As for what I'm on phone #3, my first was a US 32GB model but I filled up the storage rather quickly and which got scratched up due to debris in the case. The scratches ticked me off any when I saw a used/mint standard Pixel model in a local store so I figured why not give it a try to see if I liked the smaller version. Ultimately it was too small however and thus I was able to get a 128GB Pixel XL from Australia (my current unit).
Because the Pixel hasn't been launched in Japan yet, my losses involved with changing units twice are surprisingly miniscule. (Read: All demand, no supply.)
I'm curious though if anyone else has the permanently active hotword.
Ahhaa...good for you that you can easily switch phones...It's a rare commodity this Pixel XL 128GB...
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That's odd. I wonder if the problem then is specifically *because* Google Assistant isn't available in Japanese, that I can't totally disable the hotword. That's the only explanation I can think of as it's never happened before in any of the countless phones I've owned or used in the past.
As for what I'm on phone #3, my first was a US 32GB model but I filled up the storage rather quickly and which got scratched up due to debris in the case. The scratches ticked me off any when I saw a used/mint standard Pixel model in a local store so I figured why not give it a try to see if I liked the smaller version. Ultimately it was too small however and thus I was able to get a 128GB Pixel XL from Australia (my current unit).
Because the Pixel hasn't been launched in Japan yet, my losses involved with changing units twice are surprisingly miniscule. (Read: All demand, no supply.)
I'm curious though if anyone else has the permanently active hotword.
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Ok, I reenabled the Ok Google detection and can confirm that Google Play services goes haywire...Can anyone else please reconfirm if this is one-off case or universal?
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Ok, I reenabled the Ok Google detection and can confirm that Google Play services goes haywire...Can anyone else please reconfirm if this is one-off case or universal?
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I've always had OK google on any screen, even locked in smart lock. And never seen any Play Services drain or any unusual drain either. But I like using my phone. Between the insanely fast charging and having a car charger and charger at work (though I get through a day without needing them), I just like having that extra feature and convenience. I also have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth always on even when not using them (use Wi-Fi at home, not anywhere else), and use the Google Earth screen live wallpaper too.
Thanks, btw, have your rooted your phone? Just wondering how u got the clock to appear in the centre...
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I've always had OK google on any screen, even locked in smart lock. And never seen any Play Services drain or any unusual drain either. But I like using my phone. Between the insanely fast charging and having a car charger and charger at work (though I get through a day without needing them), I just like having that extra feature and convenience. I also have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth always on even when not using them (use Wi-Fi at home, not anywhere else), and use the Google Earth screen live wallpaper too.
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Yes, I used it for quite awhile unrooted, unmodified stock. Wanted to play around and make sure I was familiar with it enough to help myself if I got into trouble, had couple days off, so I tried twrp and rooting. Back now to stock, though. This phone is the first for me to really feel stock is so good, it's not worth modding.