Hi guys, I know that some have port the functionality from the Z2, but my question is, will there be any official release for such function in the future for the Z1C? I know it is capable, but the question is, will we get it or not officially? thanx in advance.
the lost mobiler returns said:
Hi guys, I know that some have port the functionality from the Z2, but my question is, will there be any official release for such function in the future for the Z1C? I know it is capable, but the question is, will we get it or not officially? thanx in advance.
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Nope...
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Nope...
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erm, is there any particular reason why not? or can we have another app that can do the same?
the lost mobiler returns said:
erm, is there any particular reason why not? or can we have another app that can do the same?
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Snapdragon postet the difference between 800 and 801:
QTI’s 3rd Generation LTE modem, with support for RF360 and popular requirements such as LTE-Broadcast and LTE/3G Multi-SIM
HEVC 1080p support
Support for larger, faster camera sensors and improved image post processing
Maybe you don't get a liquid 4k experience and you don`t get the full 120fps in timeshift.
So it is possible, that Sony don't want difference in their App Specification.
But i would be happy, using Timeshift video, even if it has only 116 FPS or less.
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Snapdragon postet the difference between 800 and 801:
QTI’s 3rd Generation LTE modem, with support for RF360 and popular requirements such as LTE-Broadcast and LTE/3G Multi-SIM
HEVC 1080p support
Support for larger, faster camera sensors and improved image post processing
Maybe you don't get a liquid 4k experience and you don`t get the full 120fps in timeshift.
So it is possible, that Sony don't want difference in their App Specification.
But i would be happy, using Timeshift video, even if it has only 116 FPS or less.
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exactly! so is there any app with the same function that can be used?
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exactly! so is there any app with the same function that can be used?
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First you have to look at the Android API for the camera:
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/camera.html#intent-video
and
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/camera.html#camera-features
For example Timelaps would be no problem to realize with an APP. Because its an API Feature.
For SlowMotion you need a workaround, because Android (in this case the API) do not allow this kind of command on the camera.
A Possible solution is to manipulate the System, for example with root to push our own library into the System.
Slow Motion Apps in the appstore are nothing more than recording with normal speed and slow it down afterwards. (Maybe there are Apps with root, for real slow motion)
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First you have to look at the Android API for the camera:
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/camera.html#intent-video
and
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/camera.html#camera-features
For example Timelaps would be no problem to realize with an APP. Because its an API Feature.
For SlowMotion you need a workaround, because Android (in this case the API) do not allow this kind of command on the camera.
A Possible solution is to manipulate the System, for example with root to push our own library into the System.
Slow Motion Apps in the appstore are nothing more than recording with normal speed and slow it down afterwards. (Maybe there are Apps with root, for real slow motion)
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thanx for the info capt. I really want the slowmo function because i think its cool. Anyway, if you were to suggest such app, what would it be?
the lost mobiler returns said:
thanx for the info capt. I really want the slowmo function because i think its cool. Anyway, if you were to suggest such app, what would it be?
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I only know the Sony app, as real slow motion.
Because you need root for slow motion, i would try the Sony App. There is a thread in XDA with all Sony camera apps.
So I've been spending a lot of time with the M8's camera, specifically messing around with the various video recording modes. It's really a shame that there isn't any kind of image stabilization when it comes to filming, because a lot of my videos come out looking great, but shaky. This is where I ask for your help, xda. There are a ton of camera apps in the Play Store, and I was wondering, does anyone knew of any that include image stabilization in their recording modes?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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So I've been spending a lot of time with the M8's camera, specifically messing around with the various video recording modes. It's really a shame that there isn't any kind of image stabilization when it comes to filming, because a lot of my videos come out looking great, but shaky. This is where I ask for your help, xda. There are a ton of camera apps in the Play Store, and I was wondering, does anyone knew of any that include image stabilization in their recording modes?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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By far the best 3rd party app on m8 is Camera zoof fx
i think it's the only one which works with ultra pixel tech
I don't see an option to watch 4k videos on YouTube, I can only see 720P and nothing higher than that. Does anyone know if there is trick to it? Any help will be much appreciated.
Yes, I'm on the same boat as you. Apparently it's only the Android version of YouTube. The iOS version displays 1080p. Hoping Google fixed the issue as the Nexus 6 and 9 release is close.
The screen can only handle 1440p so 4k YouTube streaming won't make much a difference really. But since I have not done so myself.. Could be wrong. But you are right 720p is our max atm.. Bummer
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I've been trying to figure out how to play 1440p videos ..YouTube had a apk for it but removed it..Can anyone confirm 1440p is working?
Edit: And I can also just see 720p and below
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I figured out how to get it, but it doesn't let me click the option of it ..Maybe my signal
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/4k-youtube-t2908238
This worked for me.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/4k-youtube-t2908238
This worked for me.
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I tried that, every time I select 4k it doesn't stay on that it goes right back to 720p. Thanks anyways
BA0714 said:
I tried that, every time I select 4k it doesn't stay on that it goes right back to 720p. Thanks anyways
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To make it stick at 1440 you start playing the video then go to settings, quality, click 1440, start the video over.. might have to do it 6 times until you get the hang of it. Thanks
Guys, before you reply with any feedback, please read the following post and links in full. It would also help if you posted details of your device like the following, which is mine:
Model: SM-G9750 (Hong Kong S10+)
Build number: G9750ZHU1ASF1
Completely stock, no settings changed
Only YouTube Vanced installed (for testing purposes)
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Summary: An intermittent stutter or lag (most notably during fullscreen 4K HDR playback, in my case) which only goes away when you activate certain screen recorder applications like Game Tools or AZ Screen Recorder.
Below is a list of posts that highlight this problem that I and a few others are experiencing. The common denominator here is the use of a screen recorder, which removes any present stutter or lag.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/lag-stutter-overall-choppy-t3914381
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/btwfbl/anyone_experiencing_stuttering_or_frame_drops_on/
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/b79cw3/is_snapdragon_really_that_much_worse_than_exynos/
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/b4nftn/snapdragon_s10_laggy_on_4k_youtube_playback/ (video evidence of problem)
The following two are from myself. My problem is that all 4K HDR content (could extend to other formats also but I need to do more testing) is stuttering or dropping frames. Screen recorder on and boom - it's smooth.
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/ch172q/snapdragon_owners_does_this_type_of_video_play/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/sm-g9750-video-playback-throttled-t3950757
The lag returns as soon as you deactivate screen recording, which suggests that this is either a bug with the CPU or GPU not being optimized or boosting its frequencies properly, leading to these stutters.
I've put Snapdragon in the title as these posts all appear to be from Snapdragon owners, whether it's the US or HK variant. I don't recall ever having this issue as a last generation S9 Exynos owner. If you are an S10/+/e Exynos owner and encountering this issue, you could still try using your phone normally, with a screen recorder active and then without, to see if there is any performance gain (as crazy as it sounds, it might actually make a difference).
Below is a test I'm using to demonstrate my problem. It involves installing apps (namely YouTube Vanced and either one of two screen recorders I've tested it with), so it's not the most convenient. If I find a better method, I will update the post accordingly.
You will need YouTube Vanced. I'm suggesting Vanced because the original YouTube app doesn't let you view at 4K resolution.
Firstly, open Vanced and tap the account icon in the upper right. Go to settings, Vanced settings, Video settings and then toggle Resolution Checks to ON. Refresh and restart the app.
Now open Game Launcher, tap the three dots in the upper right > Add apps and add YouTube Vanced to the list. We're doing this for the screen recording function which I'll mention later.
Note: if you don't have Game Launcher or Game Tools, you can try AZ Screen Recorder as an alternative. Nice Shot does not work.
Once that's done, here's a 4K 60fps clip for you to try. It should be easier to perceive any hiccups with the higher frame rate. Please set the resolution to 2160p (tap the three dots in the upper right) and watch in fullscreen / landscape orientation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ
Panning shots work best. For reference, see points 0:19, 0:46, 1:48, 2:14, 2:42, 3:04, 4:11 and 4:41 in the video. Does it look like it's stuttering or dropping frames intermittently?.
Now, swipe up from the bottom of the screen to show the navigation bar (you need the navigation bar enabled to use the recording function) and tap on Game Tools, which is the leftmost button. Tap Record.
While the screen is recording, are the stutters now gone? To my eyes, the video plays back perfectly while the recorder is active.
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If you are not experiencing any such issues with your device, then congratulations, you have passed the test! Thanks for taking some of your time to provide valuable feedback :good:
Any non-constructive comments will be ignored and reported.
Yes and the solution is? To turn on video recording all the time ???????
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Yes and the solution is? To turn on video recording all the time ???????
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Well if you have a better solution then I'm all ears? I left a similar post in the Q&A section and didn't receive a single reply. So I thought I'd post it here instead since it's more active.
We're still in the "Guides, News, & Discussion" forum, right? And technically this could even be a guide since I posted a solution, no matter how useless it may be
What resolution are playing those videos at?
I played the Peru 4k 60 @1080P one on youtube and it was great. Then played the same on Vance 1440 @60fps and it was same smoothness.
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I didn't experience that lag in my Exynos...
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What resolution are playing those videos at?
I played the Peru 4k 60 @1080P one on youtube and it was great. Then played the same on Vance 1440 @60fps and it was same smoothness.
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[email protected] is where I experience constant stutter. You will need to override resolution checks in Vanced to watch at that resolution: Tap the account icon in the upper right. Go to settings, Vanced settings, Video settings and then toggle Resolution Checks to ON. Refresh and restart the app.
Don't forget to try it with the screen recorder on please, to compare if playback is smoother.
Just realized you're on Exynos, so the issue might not pertain to you, though there's a chance I might be wrong in that regard. Thanks for testing though - more feedback is always welcome :good:
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[email protected] is where I experience constant stutter. You will need to override resolution checks in Vanced to watch at that resolution: Tap the account icon in the upper right. Go to settings, Vanced settings, Video settings and then toggle Resolution Checks to ON. Refresh and restart the app.
Don't forget to try it with the screen recorder on please, to compare if playback is smoother.
Just realized you're on Exynos, so the issue might not pertain to you, though there's a chance I might be wrong in that regard. Thanks for testing though - more feedback is always welcome :good:
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I'm not on exynos. I dont have any game tools or screen recorders on my device.
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I'm not on exynos. I dont have any game tools or screen recorders on my device.
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Lizard brain saw the GB flag and assumed you were an Exynos owner - my mistake! So you debloated your phone huh? Is something like Nice Shot or AZ Screen Recorder an option?
Here's a link for anyone wanting to download and test locally:
https://mega.nz/#!HvJx0AJA!giPtSteTVSF4lhBsC--J1CLCWqX5IFTJmWjiL8nHOw4
or
http://www.mediafire.com/file/dzndenwhk6ddboc/COSTA_RICA_IN_4K_60fps_HDR_%28ULTRA_HD%29.mp4/file
You will also need a screen recorder of some sort though, that's the most important step. Here's a few:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hecorat.screenrecorder.free&hl=en_GB
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/nice-shot/
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/samsung-game-launcher/
update: Nice Shot doesn't work for this test.
Appreciate anyone else willing to try, of your own volition of course. Doing this purely to raise awareness on the issue and gather feedback.
I just tested this using the supplied download links for the actual video and AZ screen recorder.
In all honesty I couldn't see any difference between the video running with or without the screen recorder recording it. They both looked smooth. I was using the default video player to watch the downloaded video.
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I just tested this using the supplied download links for the actual video and AZ screen recorder.
In all honesty I couldn't see any difference between the video running with or without the screen recorder recording it. They both looked smooth. I was using the default video player to watch the downloaded video.
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It was the circled video player. View attachment 4797789
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It was the circled video player. View attachment 4797789
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That looks like the Samsung video player, but no matter since the problem persists across other players too. MX Player in HW decoding seems to be the worst performing one for me.
Did you watch in landscape fullscreened? I keep forgetting to add that detail. If it was the same regardless, then I guess that removes the US Snapdragon from the equation. But thanks for taking the time to test, much appreciated :good: People probably think I'm bullshitting but once I find a concrete way to show what I'm experiencing, I will update this thread.
So far I've only had confirmation of this problem from two (yes, only two but it's still something!) other people, and they also happen to be owners of the HK S10+ variant like myself. If there are any other HK owners out there, I could really do with your feedback on this too!
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That looks like the Samsung video player, but no matter since the problem persists across other players too. MX Player in HW decoding seems to be the worst performing one for me.
Did you watch in landscape fullscreened? I keep forgetting to add that detail. If it was the same regardless, then I guess that removes the US Snapdragon from the equation. But thanks for taking the time to test, much appreciated :good: People probably think I'm bullshitting but once I find a concrete way to show what I'm experiencing, I will update this thread.
So far I've only had confirmation of this problem from two (yes, only two but it's still something!) other people, and they also happen to be owners of the HK S10+ variant like myself. If there are any other HK owners out there, I could really do with your feedback on this too!
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Yes , I watched it in landscape mode, even compared the first few scenes where the camera pans etc with screen recorder on and off, couldn't tell the difference.
Maybe you could film the issue with a camera for us to see ?
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Mx player with hardware decoding is no problem, smooth as butter. Snapdragon U1.
What does YouTube report with nerd stats turned on for the dropped frames line?
No offense but your premise is flawed at best. All you have done is made a subjective claim backed up by no legitimate measurable evidence..
Having people install screen recorders and play videos is not 'testing' anything..
Best of luck
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Yes , I watched it in landscape mode, even compared the first few scenes where the camera pans etc with screen recorder on and off, couldn't tell the difference.
Maybe you could film the issue with a camera for us to see ?
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That's been tried by someone already but the thing with these cross-comparisons is that they aren't conclusive enough for some people. For me it's crystal clear because I already know what to look for.
Here, this link was in the OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/b4nftn/snapdragon_s10_laggy_on_4k_youtube_playback/
One on the left is HK S10+, Exynos S9+ on the right. Make sure it's in [email protected] so it's as clear as possible.
The most obvious thing is that the scrolling is laggy on the HK model, but if you look closely, the video is stuttering too (look at the zooming out shot at the beginning). Exynos is completely smooth.
Stuttering video is a big no-no for me, really should not be happening on a phone of this spec.
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Mx player with hardware decoding is no problem, smooth as butter. Snapdragon U1.
What does YouTube report with nerd stats turned on for the dropped frames line?
No offense but your premise is flawed at best. All you have done is made a subjective claim backed up by no legitimate measurable evidence..
Having people install screen recorders and play videos is not 'testing' anything..
Best of luck
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Okay fair enough my test isn't the most thought out, but if you have any better suggestions on how to demonstrate the problem, you're more than welcome to provide them.
Stats for nerds doesn't show dropped frames, so it's likely that any FPS monitoring software would be useless too.
No it's not a subjective claim because if you read through the post and links in full, you would see a number of people confirming the problem. Doesn't matter how few, it's still an issue that shouldn't be ignored.
And one of the links has evidence in the form of video comparison: https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/b4nftn/snapdragon_s10_laggy_on_4k_youtube_playback/ please watch it @ 1080p60 on something larger than a phone screen.
The one thing I should've probably clarified is that I'm on the HK S10+, but those links indicate that US variants have a similar issue too. If yours doesn't have it, then cool, you're good to go :good:
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That's been tried by someone already but the thing with these cross-comparisons is that they aren't conclusive enough for some people. For me it's crystal clear because I already know what to look for.
Here, this link was in the OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/b4nftn/snapdragon_s10_laggy_on_4k_youtube_playback/
One on the left is HK S10+, Exynos S9+ on the right. Make sure it's in [email protected] so it's as clear as possible.
The most obvious thing is that the scrolling is laggy on the HK model, but if you look closely, the video is stuttering too (look at the zooming out shot at the beginning). Exynos is completely smooth.
Stuttering video is a big no-no for me, really should not be happening on a phone of this spec.
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So now we're talking about the scrolling when the video is played minimized like the reddit video? Yes mines like the same laggy. But the video itself full screen is ok.
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So now we're talking about the scrolling when the video is played minimized like the reddit video? Yes mines like the same laggy. But the video itself full screen is ok.
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Not the scrolling specifically because that's related to the problem. For me the scrolling is laggy AND the video stutters. Are you sure the video is completely smooth? It might seem so but on mine there are frame drops present - even if it's very minor, there should be none at all.
It's best to compare with another capable device side-by-side with your own eyes, as no video recording will be able to demonstrate this clearly enough. There's also a chance that some people aren't sensitive enough to stutters and might not even be able to perceive them (I'm not saying you are, this could genuinely not be happening on your device).
And even if the video doesn't appear to be stuttering to you, shouldn't the laggy scrolling be enough cause for concern? A last gen phone is running smoother and that's not acceptable. Don't settle for mediocrity guys.
edit: before anyone questions the absence of screen recording in that video, the person who uploaded it has another post on reddit where he mentions it fixing the problem.
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Not the scrolling specifically because that's related to the problem. For me the scrolling is laggy AND the video stutters. Are you sure the video is completely smooth? It might seem so but on mine there are frame drops present - even if it's very minor, there should be none at all.
It's best to compare with another capable device side-by-side with your own eyes, as no video recording will be able to demonstrate this clearly enough. There's also a chance that some people aren't sensitive enough to stutters and might not even be able to perceive them (I'm not saying you are, this could genuinely not be happening on your device).
And even if the video doesn't appear to be stuttering to you, shouldn't the laggy scrolling be enough cause for concern? A last gen phone is running smoother and that's not acceptable. Don't settle for mediocrity guys.
edit: before anyone questions the absence of screen recording in that video, the person who uploaded it has another post on reddit where he mentions it fixing the problem.
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Watching it at 1440p on native YouTube app it seems the scrolling is smooth. But on Vanced @2140 not so smooth scrolling. Probably the Vanced app or cpu etc binning on the snapdragon.
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Watching it at 1440p on native YouTube app it seems the scrolling is smooth. But on Vanced @2140 not so smooth scrolling. Probably the Vanced app or cpu etc binning on the snapdragon.
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I don't think it's the app or hardware because once I turn on the screen recorder, playback is perfect (landscape). I'm no expert on this but a logical guess means there's a frequency boost while the recorder is active, removing the stutters.
If I could find a less ****ty workaround that does the same, I would be okay with it, but there isn't
No lag here. My phone has been flawless. SD
hi i know that this phone support hdr but can it play 10 bit 4k hdr movie ?
has anyone tried it ? i am looking to buy this phone for 4k remux
It works, even the high action scenes where the bitrate jumps up to 50mbps, no stuttering.
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It works, even the high action scenes where the bitrate jumps up to 50mbps, no stuttering.
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thanks for the reply mate. can you share some screen shots ?
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thanks for the reply mate. can you share some screen shots ?
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Not much to show from a screenshot since neither MX Player nor VLC show real-time stats like the PC version of those apps. I just went to jell.yfish.us and grabbed one of their test bitrate files. I haven't monitored the CPU temps though, not sure how long it'll stay within spec.
Any suggestions on an Android player app that displays all that in real-time?
If you don't mind oversharpening on media content then get this phone.
btw. Does anybody know a fix for that?