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[Q] Timely stopped working after last update. Anybody else?

The app works, but the alarm never actually goes off. Was working just fine prior to the latest update. Almost was AWOL at work, so that's super.

could be the new power saving options.. the part regarding realtime updating of app?

I've noticed this for Alarm Clock Xtreme too. Nothing I do seems to fix it (though the latest update this week may have fixed it). It run if I set an alarm right I launch the app, but it doesn't alarm the next morning when I absolutely need it to. So I believe some memory or power management is turning it off.
I'll also try allowing it in the ASUS Auto-start Manager.

Battery optimization

What exactly does that feature do on an individual app? Security apps like cerberus recommend not using it.
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km8j said:
What exactly does that feature do on an individual app? Security apps like cerberus recommend not using it.
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During Doze mode (this kicks in when you've not moved or used the phone for a period of time, such as overnight when it's left alone) stops apps from waking the phone or running background tasks, the idea being if the phone isn't being used, it's a waste of power for apps to keep going off on line chattering or receiving notifications and displaying them to the user. Notifications that you might have got immediately, don't ping through until you press the power button the next morning.
I suspect security apps like Cerberus don't want to partake in Doze mode as they want to wake your phone up every few hours regardless and scan it, or be able to download new signatures any time.
Despite setting an app to not be optimised, it still gets stop from waking the phone using alarms during Doze (alarms are something an app can set to say wake the phone up and run the app every 10 minutes or on the hour etc). However the developer of the app can work around this by setting a new type of alarm, for Google this work around is easily detected and it wouldn't surprise me if they start alerting on the Play store about apps that are potential battery drains because they by-pass Doze. Of course some apps have to, for example an alarm clock to wake you in the morning, or something like Tasker that you set to run things at specific times, so it will be up to the developer to explain why and the person downloading to make a decision about it.
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Phil

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However the developer of the app can work around this by setting a new type of alarm, for Google this work around is easily detected and it wouldn't surprise me if they start alerting on the Play store about apps that are potential battery drains because they by-pass Doze. Of course some apps have to, for example an alarm clock to wake you in the morning, or something like Tasker that you set to run things at specific times, so it will be up to the developer to explain why and the person downloading to make a decision about it.
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That was my post in October, this happened to Tasker: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...y-reasons-this-time-its-the-notorious-tasker/
It seems Google has perhaps pulled the plug on Tasker a bit too quickly due to a BETA version, but I think overall this approach is good for Android if it gets rid of battery draining apps, which usually are up to no good downloading ads or sending back data for marketing reasons. Obviously some apps are the exception to this like Tasker, which will need this exception to continue working correctly, as otherwise it will be restricted to one wake-up every 15 minutes only when the phone goes into doze mode.
Regards
Phil

PhilipL said:
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That was my post in October, this happened to Tasker: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...y-reasons-this-time-its-the-notorious-tasker/
It seems Google has perhaps pulled the plug on Tasker a bit too quickly due to a BETA version, but I think overall this approach is good for Android if it gets rid of battery draining apps, which usually are up to no good downloading ads or sending back data for marketing reasons. Obviously some apps are the exception to this like Tasker, which will need this exception to continue working correctly, as otherwise it will be restricted to one wake-up every 15 minutes only when the phone goes into doze mode.
Regards
Phil
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Interesting reading. The question is why they even allow apps to use permission for ignoring doze, whe it most liley means ban in Play Store. Should be available to system apps only.
Note: Google Play policies prohibit apps from requesting
direct exemption from Power Management features in Android 6.0+ (Doze and App
Standby) unless the core function of the app is adversely affected.
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Now the question is what authority can JUDGE whether certain app needs it or not.

Alarm clock vs. 6.0.1

Hello, everybody. Sorry if it was already dicussed/answered, but i did not find it.
So the issue - my embed alarm clock is not working. I tried 3d party app - it does not work as well. I think doze is blocking it, however i have already disabled power economy for them and increased the priority to ring always.
What else can i do, am i the only one?
Ps i have nexus 2013 with the same android version and it is working ok there. It makes me think maybe it is somehow related to fingerprint scanner (?)
Thank you in advance.

Am I the only lucky ? %)

By not working do you mean it's not going off at all? I know I've made the mistake of setting do not disturb to Total Silence and that prevents the alarm from sounding but it still works.
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By not working do you mean it's not going off at all? I know I've made the mistake of setting do not disturb to Total Silence and that prevents the alarm from sounding but it still works.
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Yep, no sound. However it is shown on the blocked screen, e.g. 'the next alarm at 11.10' while it is 11.45 already

Moving to Elemental and Cataclysm solved the issue

Same (though Alarm Clock xTreme app). Alarm set for 6:00 - wake up at 6:30, unlock phone, alarm goes off!? Also hasn't woken (zero notification - no sound or light) at least a couple of times for WhatsApp messages. Gmail failing to sync as well.

avconsumer2 said:
Same (though Alarm Clock xTreme app). Alarm set for 6:00 - wake up at 6:30, unlock phone, alarm goes off!? Also hasn't woken (zero notification - no sound or light) at least a couple of times for WhatsApp messages. Gmail failing to sync as well.
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Just downloaded it this morning so I can't speak to its performance, but apparently the new ACX app fixes the Doze issue:
https://m.reddit.com/r/alarmclockxt..._version_of_acxsleep_51_android_6_compatible/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alarmclock.xtreme.sleep
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I understand when it happens with a 3rd party app, but for me it happened with a native Google one. It is kinda strange

Issues with notifications, late or don't recieve

I have been using the phone for about a week, running the latest version. I have noticed a lot of times I am not receiving notifications properly or consistently. My phone is pretty notification busy, so I notice when I'm missing things.
I came from a Nexus 5 phone running Lollipop, so this is my first experience with Marshmallow. I have a feeling these notification issues are due to the new power saving / deep sleep features in 6.0.
Here are the issues I've noticed so far.
- Hangounts : received notification for hangout message (not sms), opened app and it said "received 10 minutes ago". Phone was in my pocket, hadn't looked at it for a few hours.
- Ebay : no outbid notification, was outbid overnight when my phone was not plugged in and left on my desk.
- Life360 : Was not showing up on the map for location tracking when checking from another device. I opened the app on my phone and it reconnected. This happens consistently.
- Sleep Cycle: Alarm does not go off if the phone is not plugged in to a power source. When I unlock the phone in the morning, the alarm starts ringing (even though it's late).
- BaconReader : No message notifications until I open the app, or late notifications (delayed over an hour).
- CSipSimple : SMS messages are not received when phone is left overnight (this is a IP phone with SMS messaging through an SIP provider, all data related).
Email seems consistently good, which is nice. Social media apps I haven't noticed an issue yet, but I'm not really busy using those.
I tried re-installing some apps. I've also tried setting the app notification settings under app settings such as "Treat as priority", "Allow peeking", and "Wake".
Any one else? Any recommendations?
I searched and found:
Email notifications and touch screen problems after Dec update.
Missing SMS Notifications

have you restored some of those apps from a backup of your old phone? if yes, consider a fresh install of those.
else, try turning off doze for those troublemakers, maybe restart your phone, and see what happens during an appropriate amount of time. do this by going to settings -> battery -> top right corner menu -> optimisation.

I did restore the apps from backup. Some that were causing issue I did uninstall and reinstall, configure form scratch, no help.
I'll try turning off battery optimization for some of the apps and see if that helps. Thanks for the tip.

Those are all side effects of Doze - in some cases (Sleep Cycle) it sounds like the it hasn't been updated to use the API23 AlarmManager calls that should work with Doze. Hangouts should have worked - I'd be surprised if its not using Google Cloud Messaging which is Doze exempt.
Exempting apps from battery optimisation doesn't fully exempt them from all Doze restrictions but it's worth a try as it might help. It does allow apps to keep network connectivity which is likely key for Life360, Ebay and CSipSimple.
I would contact the Devs of all the apps to alert them their app isn't working properly on Marshmallow

Exempting Sleep Cycle in the battery saver allowed the alarm to work when I didn't have it plugged into a charger. I'll email the developer.
I've added exemptions to the battery saver for all apps that I use where I would never want them to decide to go to sleep. Everything seems better now, I haven't noticed any missed notifications since.
I hope hangouts was a fluke, I would also agree it should work properly...

Alarm clock not working

So, I already tried everything, I cannot get my alarm clock working properly no matter what app I am using, stock, Timely, 5 more apps, nothing is working. Only when I set alarm to next <2 hours but this is useless to me. I was looking for this problem on xda or 1+ forum, no solutions for my case.
- I tried changing volume for alarm - no difference
- disabled battery optimization for alarm clock apps + clock stock app - nothing
- factory reset to wipe all data and cache - nothing
- newest oos
- my phone isn't in silent mode
I think I know where is problem, when I unlock phone every morning I need to put PIN there ( I have fingerprint unlock as default) so my phone reboot every night.
Possible solutions:
Disable PIN after start so stock alarm can wake me up (because it has that function in application) - I tried disable PIN, not working (any ideas?)
Remove these random reboots - newest oos fixed this they said, but not in my case.
Don't get me wrong, I am happy with this phone, however in a few days I need to wake up exactly in right time.
Btw. I had exactly this problem on my old Sony Xperia U if it is worth mentioning. But on that phone that started maybe after 2 years, not in day 1 like in this case.
As you can see, My english is not my native language but I am trying to do my best

Do you have your phone shutting off at night by any chance and you have your security set to require PIN entry when device boots?
Or if your phone is randomly rebooting in the middle of the night and you have your security set to require a PIN entry when booting the device, this is most likely the reason why your alarm clock is not working. Lock screen PIN or fingerprint should make no difference.

No, I already disable it.
Today I perform some tests about this thing and I discovered this. When I enable setting in clock stock app for 1+3 "Wake if device is powered off" . It doesn't wake or ring when phone is off (with full battery of course). Anyone can check this if it is working for some people?
Anything else, I tried set alarm for next 5 minutes and reboot device. After phone is booted up, it require pin (lockscreen, so no pre-boot stage) BUT alarm is working! So from my side it looks like when doze mode is activated itself, it cause problems with alarm, even stock one.
///EDIT: Wake if power off is now working! I just enabled smartlock with my current location and now phone is turned on itself 2 minutes before alarm. I will test this correctly next morning (here is 21:13). I hope I can bypass doze mode this way.

Interesting...I took a little cat nap yesterday and set my alarm for 1 hour...when I woke up, I woke the phone (it was on) and the alarm sounded as soon as it woke, but at 1 hour and 23min (23min past when I set it). So possibility dose works too well? BTW I'm stock with 3.2.4 and function on with wake device for alarm.

It works! After not touching the phone for +-8 hours, phone wake up itself and start ringing in right time. So solution is:
-Using stock app,
-Enable "Wake if device is powered off"
- Turn off phone when you go to bed
This will bypass doze mode as I correctly predicted
But still, if doze mode is blocking stock alarm, it needs to be fixed soon as possible. For broken notifications too.

Have you tried Deskclock by Google ( Clock app ) on play store

Nope, I don't need to try any apps anymore. It is still working

It might be an idea to not optimize the clock app under the battery optimization settings. I have it as not optimized and it works fine for me
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"- disabled battery optimization for alarm clock apps + clock stock app - nothing"
I already do that.

I have the same problem like viktorino. Stock alarm works while phone is not in doze mode, but once the mode starts the alarm does not produce any sound although it manages to turn the display on… Anyone has any more ideas? Don't want to turn my phone off every night.

My alarm does not work after latest updates it is not giving sound

Vinodcrasto said:
My alarm does not work after latest updates it is not giving sound
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Same here.. did you come across with any fix?
Only solution for me was to use google clock.
Weird thing.. Everytime I open google clock apk, an alert message is shown telling that alarm is silenced by default.
I can't understand why the haven't solved this yet.. it seams a quite simple bug to fix..

hi, what I am thinking is that it's not a alarm app problem, rather a sound problem, my op3 sometimes looses sound and when I try to play something from any app, that app stops responding. only thing temporary working is a reboot.

I've used alarmdroid reliably for years on many different devices. Works consistently on op as well. Using OB13 currently

lautta10 said:
Same here.. did you come across with any fix?
Only solution for me was to use google clock.
Weird thing.. Everytime I open google clock apk, an alert message is shown telling that alarm is silenced by default.
I can't understand why the haven't solved this yet.. it seams a quite simple bug to fix..
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Checkout my alarm app Alarm + Task Logger FREE.
Playstore Link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobitronix.gauravchauhan.alarmplus.free
I have developed this app post Marshmallow update and have circumvented the problem of missfiring alarms due to doze mode.
Besides this it offers more features & customizable options than other apps of this genre. Check playstore description for available app features.
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viktorino said:
So, I already tried everything, I cannot get my alarm clock working properly no matter what app I am using, stock, Timely, 5 more apps, nothing is working. Only when I set alarm to next <2 hours but this is useless to me. I was looking for this problem on xda or 1+ forum, no solutions for my case.
- I tried changing volume for alarm - no difference
- disabled battery optimization for alarm clock apps + clock stock app - nothing
- factory reset to wipe all data and cache - nothing
- newest oos
- my phone isn't in silent mode
I think I know where is problem, when I unlock phone every morning I need to put PIN there ( I have fingerprint unlock as default) so my phone reboot every night.
Possible solutions:
Disable PIN after start so stock alarm can wake me up (because it has that function in application) - I tried disable PIN, not working (any ideas?)
Remove these random reboots - newest oos fixed this they said, but not in my case.
Don't get me wrong, I am happy with this phone, however in a few days I need to wake up exactly in right time.
Btw. I had exactly this problem on my old Sony Xperia U if it is worth mentioning. But on that phone that started maybe after 2 years, not in day 1 like in this case.
As you can see, My english is not my native language but I am trying to do my best
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Checkout my alarm app Alarm + Task Logger FREE.
Playstore link - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobitronix.gauravchauhan.alarmplus.free
I have developed this app post Marshmallow update and have circumvented the problem of missfiring alarms due to doze mode.
Besides this it offers more features & customizable options than other apps of this genre. Check playstore description for available app features.

I don't believe that the stock alarm clock can be optimized, at least by doze. Do you have root or done any mods such as wakelock blockers?

Did cleaned up the whole device. Only then stock alarm started working.