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Looking for the rom for me!

Hello Xda People.
I have recently got myself an Xperia S.
Before this I've owned an xpera x8 I loved playing around with roms on that thing yet I never really unlocked the bootloader or anything fancy
So now I have a few questions. What is the smart thing to do?
Unlock the bootloader?
Root the phone and only uninstall unneeded things?
Install a rom without unlocked bootloader
or Instal a rom with unlocked bootloader
The things I would really like are:
A little bit more battery life
The same option the phone has with official rom (xsound/ bravia engine in particular)
Pre-rooted rom
Could anyone here help me make a choice and guide me through the steps I need to take?

Yup u can start by rooting your phone there is lots of threds here after that u can install custom recovey where u dont need to unlock your bootloader after that flash a Rom with a good battry life (like miui) there us few roms compatible with locked bootloader.
I do not recommend to unlock or root ur phone now bcz after few weeks we ll have official jb 4.1.2 after that if ur still board thn u can unlock ur phone and start messing around
Hit thanks if I helped
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Lock/Unlock Bootloader depends on what ROM you choose to install. There are plenty ROMs available in the development section. Read the ROM threads, Features, User reviews and decide your self which ROM suits you best.
Based on that You can decide whether to go for Unlock Bootloader or Stay on Locked bootloader.
If you like to stay on Stock then just root it and remove bloatwares and install few tweaks. It should be fine. Detail info regarding this can be found in General Section. So search there.
And last but not the least, XDA Doesn't allow discussions about "which ROM is best" or "which ROM suits me most"? Thus the easy way is to head over to the development section and find out by yourself.

OP please read the Post above mine...Thanks.

[Q] LG G2 Sprint_Update Queries

Hi,
I am using USA Sprint rooted and unlocked LG G2 in India with GSM sim. working fine.
I am receiving some notifications of updates and have following queries
- Can I update it OTA without losing unlocking?
- How can I manually update the G2 firmware to official LG ROM. I like it. I know there are many custom roms with kitkat but do not want to lose LG's original customization. and hence wish to update the real LG G2 kitkat without impacting unlocking.

Moved here, as this does not belong in the Development Sections...please read the Forum Rules on posting.

Hi.. Any help team...

Zva has a modified TWRP zip already and we will be working on a ZVC one when it shows up. If stock recovery just manually d/l and flash when link is posted.
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[Q] G2 (4.4.2) and predicting "rootability" of bootloader on G3

This is for people like me (Verizon/AT&T) who are concerned with the recent trend with these companies to make the bootloader harder to get into than Ft. Knox on the GS5.
I'm on an HTC One XL and have tried to catch up a little but for those coming from the G2 to the G3 are you concerned about the inablity to flash custom kernals? From what I gathered the exploit was to downgrade firmware to pre 4.4.2 in order to gain access and seeing how the G3 won't know anything other than 4.4.2 is there reason to be concerned that there won't be any rooting?

I wouldn't mind about not having immediate kernel/ROM support, all I want is root and the ability to tether!

geoff5093 said:
I wouldn't mind about not having immediate kernel/ROM support, all I want is root and the ability to tether!
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I agree 100% I've been a Samsung guy for a while now, but the inability to even root Verizon's S5 is turning me away. Give me the ability to root, remove bloat and make subtle adjustments at my discretion and I'm happy. To be able to flash ROMs and kernels and I'm that much happier!

Same, all I want is tether!!
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Mods, There is a similar thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764187 maybe merge the two? I wasn't sure which to post this in but,
Coming off 2 generations of HTC phones and leaning toward the G3, I'm wondering about updates after root. With HTC, if you rooted your phone you had to use a custom ROM, even if it was a stock custom ROM to ever get updates. If you over the air updated, you could loose root. Is that how it would work with LG? What would be the point of rooting an LG if you can't unlock the bootloader? Would you be stuck with a rooted phone that never receives any updates?

flyhighx said:
Mods, There is a similar thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764187 maybe merge the two? I wasn't sure which to post this in but,
Coming off 2 generations of HTC phones and leaning toward the G3, I'm wondering about updates after root. With HTC, if you rooted your phone you had to use a custom ROM, even if it was a stock custom ROM to ever get updates. If you over the air updated, you could loose root. Is that how it would work with LG? What would be the point of rooting an LG if you can't unlock the bootloader? Would you be stuck with a rooted phone that never receives any updates?
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Thats how it worked with the LG Flex; if you were rooted, you have to restore to factory stock, then get the update...fortunately, you could root while on 4.2, then get the OTA update to 4.4. But there is no custom recovery and no roms for 4.4, so at this point, there is zero dev going on for that phone, except what might be going on behind the scenes..
The G3 should be more popular, so hopefully with more people working on bypassing the LG security scheme, it might not be as horrible; but we waited 6 months from release to just get root, so who knows..

wase4711 said:
Thats how it worked with the LG Flex; if you were rooted, you have to restore to factory stock, then get the update...fortunately, you could root while on 4.2, then get the OTA update to 4.4. But there is no custom recovery and no roms for 4.4, so at this point, there is zero dev going on for that phone, except what might be going on behind the scenes..
The G3 should be more popular, so hopefully with more people working on bypassing the LG security scheme, it might not be as horrible; but we waited 6 months from release to just get root, so who knows..
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have you looked in the development threads there are custom recoveries and 4.4 roms and the develpment for the g2 is alive and kicking not sure where you are coming from

martindar said:
have you looked in the development threads there are custom recoveries and 4.4 roms and the develpment for the g2 is alive and kicking not sure where you are coming from
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here's where I am coming from..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-flex

ah i see its a little quieter in the gflex section in g2 there are loads of custom stuff i initially thought you were on a g2 my fault for not looking at your sig properly! im sure it will get much better in time the g2 was very quiet for a while untill everyone realised what a good phone it is.it takes time for workarounds and there will be problems but stick with it as the g flex is a great phone.
im on a ukd802 g2
g3 theme and icons
4.4.2 g flex rom (cloudyfa's 2.3 )
savocas latest kernel
hid3rs ui quick settings mod,exposed.

a "little" quieter?
no roms, no recovery,(for kitkat), and the phone has been out 7 months...
the dev's who have tried just cant get that phone to co operate; hopefully, since that was the "latest" LG flagship, whatever measures they used to make it impossible to mod, will NOT be used in the G3..

getting root on the LG G2 has never really been an issue. The bootloader has never been unlocked but it has been bypassed so flashing roms / kernels is not a problem. I would predict that the LG G3 will be similar. But the problem has been that most AOSP ROM's have had issues (and the AOSP camera just sucks) and while i have tried several, I kept coming back to stock G2 ROM Derivatives with xposd, hotspot hacks and nova launcher. I need a stable phone with a good camera (got two kids and my phone is main source of pics / videos) and a hacked hotspot (I am on Verizon w/unlimited data and would need to pay for tethering) more than anything.

puothy said:
getting root on the LG G2 has never really been an issue. The bootloader has never been unlocked but it has been bypassed so flashing roms / kernels is not a problem. I would predict that the LG G3 will be similar. But the problem has been that most AOSP ROM's have had issues (and the AOSP camera just sucks) and while i have tried several, I kept coming back to stock G2 ROM Derivatives with xposd, hotspot hacks and nova launcher. I need a stable phone with a good camera (got two kids and my phone is main source of pics / videos) and a hacked hotspot (I am on Verizon w/unlimited data and would need to pay for tethering) more than anything.
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I'm not completely sure but I think you need the bootloader to be unlocked to flash custom kernels. I could be wrong though.
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@puothy have you tried houstonn's PA its buttery smooth really fast and battery life is amazing. You should check it out it is the most stable ROM out there for the g2
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ykota89 said:
I'm not completely sure but I think you need the bootloader to be unlocked to flash custom kernels. I could be wrong though.
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@puothy have you tried houstonn's PA its buttery smooth really fast and battery life is amazing. You should check it out it is the most stable ROM out there for the g2
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Bootloader is locked, however loki bypasses the bootloader which allows for custom ROMs/kernels.

puothy said:
getting root on the LG G2 has never really been an issue. The bootloader has never been unlocked but it has been bypassed so flashing roms / kernels is not a problem. I would predict that the LG G3 will be similar.
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simon_lefisch said:
Bootloader is locked, however loki bypasses the bootloader which allows for custom ROMs/kernels.
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For the G2, LG patched the loki exploit for Kit Kat. Therefore, the only way to get custom recovery and custom kernels for Kit Kat on the G2 is to downgrade the bootloader to a loki-susceptible one (ie: from Jellybean). The Kit Kat bootloader has not been unlocked. This works for the G2 because it previously had a loki-susceptible bootloader.
But the G3 will never have had a bootloader that can be exploited by loki that can be downgraded to, so so far it doesn't look too good. Looks like root can be achieved, but the real question is custom recovery/kernels/etc.

beezar said:
For the G2, LG patched the loki exploit for Kit Kat. Therefore, the only way to get custom recovery and custom kernels for Kit Kat on the G2 is to downgrade the bootloader to a loki-susceptible one (ie: from Jellybean). The Kit Kat bootloader has not been unlocked. This works for the G2 because it previously had a loki-susceptible bootloader.
But the G3 will never have had a bootloader that can be exploited by loki that can be downgraded to, so so far it doesn't look too good. Looks like root can be achieved, but the real question is custom recovery/kernels/etc.
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They have looked at the bootloader and said it looks the same as the one in the g2 and flex .... They can probably patch it like they have
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Best LG G3 ROM

Hi,
I have the F400K variant currently running on stock Lollipop.
Just wondering what people think is the best ROM for me to flash.
I'm debating AndroidHD and CloudyG3 since those seem to be the big two, but would consider other ROMS like CM (but no official support at the moment).
ROMs nowadays have built-in updates without having the need to flash via a computer, right? I haven't used an Android phone since the original Optimus G, so I'm very out of loop.
Thanks.

There is no best rom.
ps. thread will get locked

"ROMs nowadays have built-in updates without having the need to flash via a computer, right? I haven't used an Android phone since the original Optimus G, so I'm very out of loop."
There's a very small chance somebody is going to spoonfed you every detail and everything you need to know about this device on the forums. Please look through the XDA forums if you have any questions or simply use Google.
Like DelBoy said, there is no best ROM because tastes differ. Flash whatever you like. There is no good or bad.

sprremix said:
"ROMs nowadays have built-in updates without having the need to flash via a computer, right? I haven't used an Android phone since the original Optimus G, so I'm very out of loop."
There's a very small chance somebody is going to spoonfed you every detail and everything you need to know about this device on the forums. Please look through the XDA forums if you have any questions or simply use Google.
Like DelBoy said, there is no best ROM because tastes differ. Flash whatever you like. There is no good or bad.
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Hi,
I searched already on XDA as well as on the LGG3 subreddit and found no threads such as the like, and therefore made this posting.
In no way am I asking to be spoonfed "every" detail, I simply asked two questions.
But thank you for your insight. I'm going to give CloudyG3 a go.

PD1 vs. PF3?

Been perusing the forums and I've seen a few anecdotal opinions on using one or the other, but not enough to catch a trend. Have we arrived at a consensus?
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PD1 is the better of the two but still not without its flaws. Both run hot and kill battery life but PF3 is the buggier of the two. So far, nothing beat the original KitKat 4.4.4 build but the January 5.1.1 update, BOK3, is the best of the recent batch for battery life & reception.

hkklife said:
PD1 is the better of the two but still not without its flaws. Both run hot and kill battery life but PF3 is the buggier of the two. So far, nothing beat the original KitKat 4.4.4 build but the January 5.1.1 update, BOK3, is the best of the recent batch for battery life & reception.
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I sure do agree that they run hot especially withe GPS and/or hotspot active. So, confirming, with what you have have seen using the PD1 kernel for marshmallow is best? Can BOK3 be used for marshmallow or do I have to have a MM kernel for marshmallow; I would assume that.
I assume this is only for the kernel and the bootloader should stay at BPA/BPD with the safe update according to @hsbadr.
Finally, I have been thinking of trying out a kitkat rom and a lollipop rom on my dev'd Retail N910V. Do you think that is possible? I would assume that I need to flash a kitkat kernel and the BPA kernel appropriately. But I can leave my bootloader at BPA1 or BPD1 correct?
Any tips/links for changing roms (kitkat, lollipop, marshmallow) appreciated.

weaverinva said:
I sure do agree that they run hot especially withe GPS and/or hotspot active. So, confirming, with what you have have seen using the PD1 kernel for marshmallow is best? Can BOK3 be used for marshmallow or do I have to have a MM kernel for marshmallow; I would assume that.
I assume this is only for the kernel and the bootloader should stay at BPA/BPD with the safe update according to @hsbadr.
Finally, I have been thinking of trying out a kitkat rom and a lollipop rom on my dev'd Retail N910V. Do you think that is possible? I would assume that I need to flash a kitkat kernel and the BPA kernel appropriately. But I can leave my bootloader at BPA1 or BPD1 correct?
Any tips/links for changing roms (kitkat, lollipop, marshmallow) appreciated.
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These are not kernels. They are bootloader/modem combos. I do not think it is wise to flash a Marshmallow modem on a Lollipop bootloader. I would also not be flashing bootloaders when I don't know what I'm doing. There is no instruction on this forum that requires flashing either bootloaders or modems by themselves. If you want a Marshmallow modem you have two options: flash the full firmware, lock your bootloader and lose root, or follow the procedure for upgrading to Marshmallow in the development section. You seem to be confused between the terms "kernel," "bootloader," and "modem." I'd suggest you do a bit of homework to learn the differences before you start flashing anything.
If yours is a true Developer Edition phone, you can peruse the Development section. I'm not aware of any KitKat or Lollipop ROM that is being supported, but most of those ROMS were created when you couldn't unlock a Retail Edition phone.

douger1957 said:
These are not kernels. They are bootloader/modem combos. I do not think it is wise to flash a Marshmallow modem on a Lollipop bootloader. I would also not be flashing bootloaders when I don't know what I'm doing. There is no instruction on this forum that requires flashing either bootloaders or modems by themselves. If you want a Marshmallow modem you have two options: flash the full firmware, lock your bootloader and lose root, or follow the procedure for upgrading to Marshmallow in the development section. You seem to be confused between the terms "kernel," "bootloader," and "modem." I'd suggest you do a bit of homework to learn the differences before you start flashing anything.
If yours is a true Developer Edition phone, you can peruse the Development section. I'm not aware of any KitKat or Lollipop ROM that is being supported, but most of those ROMS were created when you couldn't unlock a Retail Edition phone.
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Thank you for your response and concern. I have been flashing roms and items for nearly 6 years. I accidentially late last night flashed a bootloader when I was trying to flash a modem. I made a mistake. On the safestrap Verizon Note 3 N900V we often changed modems because some thought they saw better reception (placebo?) and they all worked even with the latest roms. Sometimes partial firmware flashes combines two of these items.
Mine is not an original developer edition. I take your's is. I will take your advice and peruse the development area. Even if unsupported it seems that some of the kitkat roms may have been the most stable. Just had an interaction from another person with a dev edition on that.

weaverinva said:
Thank you for your response and concern. I have been flashing roms and items for nearly 6 years. I accidentially late last night flashed a bootloader when I was trying to flash a modem. I made a mistake. On the safestrap Verizon Note 3 N900V we often changed modems because some thought they saw better reception (placebo?) and they all worked even with the latest roms. Sometimes partial firmware flashes combines two of these items.
Mine is not an original developer edition. I take your's is. I will take your advice and peruse the development area. Even if unsupported it seems that some of the kitkat roms may have been the most stable. Just had an interaction from another person with a dev edition on that.
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Mine is an unlocked Retail Edition. My concern was that there are too many people here that flash stuff indiscriminately when they don't know what they're doing then think someone else can bail them out of their jam.
I've been on two HTC phones and the S4 and none of them required goofing with bootloaders. The Note 4 is unique in my experience because there's a bootloader for each edition of Android. I'm not a developer but I suspect that is part of Samsung's effort to lock the thing down.
My experience with the rooted Note 4 is from Lollipop up. I can't help you with regards to your desire to flash KitKat. I don't know if you'll need a KitKat bootloader or not. Almost all of the "old timers" are gone to greener pastures. You can still dig around that subforum. You can also go here, but you'll be on your own getting carrier data and perhaps wifi to work.
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cleopete said:
Been perusing the forums and I've seen a few anecdotal opinions on using one or the other, but not enough to catch a trend. Have we arrived at a consensus?
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My problem with PD1 was that I could only get bluetooth to work up to a distance of about five feet or so. PF3 seemed to fix that. Otherwise, I've noticed no other difference.

douger1957 said:
Mine is an unlocked Retail Edition. My concern was that there are too many people here that flash stuff indiscriminately when they don't know what they're doing then think someone else can bail them out of their jam.
I've been on two HTC phones and the S4 and none of them required goofing with bootloaders. The Note 4 is unique in my experience because there's a bootloader for each edition of Android. I'm not a developer but I suspect that is part of Samsung's effort to lock the thing down.
My experience with the rooted Note 4 is from Lollipop up. I can't help you with regards to your desire to flash KitKat. I don't know if you'll need a KitKat bootloader or not. Almost all of the "old timers" are gone to greener pastures. You can still dig around that subforum. You can also go here, but you'll be on your own getting carrier data and perhaps wifi to work.
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My problem with PD1 was that I could only get bluetooth to work up to a distance of about five feet or so. PF3 seemed to fix that. Otherwise, I've noticed no other difference.
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Yes Samsung is different and I have the retail like you. I've rooted rommed and kernel Droid, three HTCs, the Note 3, and now the Note 4.
I agree that people need to be careful.
I have successfully re unlocked the bootloader, and I have flashed a kitkat rom. Before or after the flash a person would need to flash the ANJ kernel and modem. Either missing will cause a boot loop. Things are working nicely. We'll see if I end up on kitkat or marshmallow. I had my Note 3 so honed with Amplify, Greenify, and the AllianceROM that marshmallow may not add that much for me.
Yes, I've looked at the snapdragon area as well. So many things to try but I just don't have the time.