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Firstly, I apologize if this question has been asked a 1000 times before. Unfortunately I couldn't find such a thread when I went through the forums, probably because this is a slightly old device and such questions most likely were asked WAY back in 2011, I guess.
I am currently a Motorola Droid X2 owner. After putting up with Motorola and its equally crappy phone for months, I finally convinced the VZW customer care rep to give me a different phone and I chose the Dinc2, which will arrive at my home on Monday. I do believe that the Dinc2 is BETTER than the DX2 in almost every aspect: has an unlockable Bootloader, is guaranteed to get ICS from HTC eventually and has a boot load of awesome custom ROMs! If you head over to the DX2 community, compared to this, it may feel like a ghost town! (The only active dev is busy with school and has no time, so the dev section has hardly gotten any news for the last 2-3 months!!! ) Plus my DX2 is plagued with issues.
In this regard, I would like to know if any of you have any knowledgeable opinions on whether the Dinc2 is indeed better than the DX2. Secondly, what are the major issues people are facing with this phone? My DX2 has at least 6-7 major issues.
Now, I would like to know:
1. How easy is rooting on this phone? Is there a tutorial? Is it reversible?
2. How easy is it to achieve S-OFF? Is it reversible?
3. I have not read anything about unlocking bootloaders to be a requirement to install any ROM. Is it necessary to unlock the BL to install ICS/CM9/MIUI ROMs? Is it reversible?
4. My most important query is can I revert back to 100% stock (i.e. unrooted, S-ON and locked bootloader, if I had to unlock it in the first place) in case I am not satisfied with the phone and want a different Dinc2 or may be a different device?
Thank you all for your help! Kindly do reply to this thread and answer as many of my questions as you can!!
Looking forward to enjoy my Dinc2 and be a part of this community!
Cheers! \m/
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1 & 2) I rooted mine in an hour. This includes the research I did to know how to do it (Google 'Revolutionary Incredible 2'). I did S-Off, cause I don't see the point of rooting if someone leaves S-On. It is entirely reversible. I have also done that.
3) When you root your phone, you are unlocking your bootloader. That is why you can flash ROMs and the like. It's been recommended not to use HTC's unlocker, as you are telling HTC that you did it. That is up to you, but you will still have S-On.
4) Same question as 1 & 2? Yes. I have done it.
HTC > Motorola every time.
Quick word of advice: I guarantee you that all these questions are on the internet. Try to search better. Help us keep these forums clean of redundant posts. Again, Welcome to the Incredible 2 Community.
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Welcome to the Incredible 2 Community!
1 & 2) I rooted mine in an hour. This includes the research I did to know how to do it (Google 'Revolutionary Incredible 2'). I did S-Off, cause I don't see the point of rooting if someone leaves S-On. It is entirely reversible. I have also done that.
3) When you root your phone, you are unlocking your bootloader. That is why you can flash ROMs and the like. It's been recommended not to use HTC's unlocker, as you are telling HTC that you did it. That is up to you, but you will still have S-On.
4) Same question as 1 & 2? Yes. I have done it.
HTC > Motorola every time.
Quick word of advice: I guarantee you that all these questions are on the internet. Try to search better. Help us keep these forums clean of redundant posts. Again, Welcome to the Incredible 2 Community.
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Thanks a lot! And I am soooo sorry for cluttering up the forum. I know how that feels (The transformer prime forum, for instance, is cluttered with people complaining about the same thing and/or posting the same info, news or problems!)
Glad to know that rooting is very easy and also glad to know that achieving S-OFF is also easy and super glad to know that both these are reversible. Also happy to know that it is unnecessary to use HTC's unlock method and tell them that you unlocked the phone!
I am very excited to be getting this phone! So looking forward to Monday and finally having a good phone!
Cheers \m/
Welcome aboard, I think you'll find this is a pretty helpful group here.
Pretty much any and all of your questions have been compiled into this thread Click me.
Take a look around the dev forum for roms. Bunch of good stuff in there
1. How easy is rooting on this phone? Is there a tutorial? Is it reversible?
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Yes. My nephew had to get a replacement Dinc2 and it only took 10 minutes to downgrade and s-off. I would be surprised that you wouldn't have .98 bootloader. Anyways, its easy.
2. How easy is it to achieve S-OFF? Is it reversible?
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Yes and Yes, but isn't for the faint of heart.
3. I have not read anything about unlocking bootloaders to be a requirement to install any ROM. Is it necessary to unlock the BL to install ICS/CM9/MIUI ROMs? Is it reversible?
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Since the Dinc2 is s-off, I wouldn't recommend anything else. HTCdev unlock tool is useless because we have s-off and ROM flashes are very easy.
4. My most important query is can I revert back to 100% stock (i.e. unrooted, S-ON and locked bootloader, if I had to unlock it in the first place) in case I am not satisfied with the phone and want a different Dinc2 or may be a different device?
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Kind of already answered this question. Re-locking the bootloader will include the latest RUU.
I've got a bunch of guides down in my sig. Looks like the others have answered your q's.
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I'm looking to find out more about FOTA unbricking. There is a dev thread of that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126358
but since it's dev I won't ask questions there.
Some phones seem to accept OTA updates with unlocked bootloaders and others don't. I have a few Sony phones and FOTA unbricking is great. I see some other phones don't seem to have FOTA unbricking. What is done in this case to restore the phone? Flashing and fastboot are surely common to all Androids, no?
So if the next official update (the one that is currently hitting sprint phones) Activates Knox and locks the boot loader. Will we be able to flash back to one of the original unlocked roms in Odin or will the locked bootloader prevent this? Sorry for the noobish question...
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So if the next official update (the one that is currently hitting sprint phones) Activates Knox and locks the boot loader. Will we be able to flash back to one of the original unlocked roms in Odin or will the locked bootloader prevent this? Sorry for the noobish question...
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From what I gather a locked bootlaoder is a requirement to use the Knox software, which is mostly for business usage. So that's why the update would lock it.
However, there has yet to be a locked bootloader than the XDA community hasn't been able to pick. And more often than not XDA works so fast to unlock bootloaders that it's more like shooting the lock out with a small cannon than actually picking it.
So I'm sure that an locked bootloaders will be quickly unlocked. That should let you bounce back and fortch between ROMS of all shapes and sizes. But you may not be able to use the Knox system with an unlocked bootloader.
the update is hitting Verizon and AT&T S4's as we speak. but it does not Locked the boot loader according to shaddypenguin in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2355974
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the update is hitting Verizon and AT&T S4's as we speak. but it does not Locked the boot loader according to shaddypenguin in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2355974
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Check out the thread in the Verizon s4 forum. They not only broke root there but also put a new boot loader in place to try to prevent future attempts.
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Remember att and verizon both go to extra lengths to lock bootloader so its not surprising. I would only pay attention to sprint and its been confirmed that sprint is ok so we shall be ok
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Just read shabbys post.... self-signed bootloaders?!? heck yeah, wanted something like that for a while now.
ATT AND VERIZON both at this time have permanent locked bootloaders, all the devs did was create the loki patch which bypasses the lock, tmo does not have a locked bootloader, you guys should be able to bypass that knox crap.
Us att peeps, at least the smart ones, do not update period, an wait for a dev to cook up a flashable safe update. That is our update, but if you been reading, people just don't get it, and they updated their device, now they can't even root ever, until a top dev figures another way around it. Updates are NOT always a good thing.
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ATT AND VERIZON both at this time have permanent locked bootloaders, all the devs did was create the loki patch which bypasses the lock, tmo does not have a locked bootloader, you guys should be able to bypass that knox crap.
Us att peeps, at least the smart ones, do not update period, an wait for a dev to cook up a flashable safe update. That is our update, but if you been reading, people just don't get it, and they updated their device, now they can't even root ever, until a top dev figures another way around it. Updates are NOT always a good thing.
The Ax says, this my opinion only. Thanks
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The words 'permanent' and 'ever' are misused here.
This is XDA. The words you were looking for are 'temporary' and 'tomorrow'.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
Agreed.my bad.
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[SIZE=+2]Verizon HTC One (M7wlv)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]This a short list of frequently asked questions in this device forum and the answers often given as a response. It should serve as a starting point for gathering knowledge and finding solutions to many common problems. Please only post in this thread with feedback on how to improve this document. Do not post "Thank you" type responses. If you have additional questions or require more help, try to find an existing thread or create your own. Do not use this as a general help thread.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Q1: What's the difference between "Development" and "Original Development"?[/SIZE]
Here are the rough guidelines as to what should be placed in "Original Development":
*Official release of highly original and upstream custom ROMs (built from the ground up with significant original development within them).
*Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person.
*A significant "first" in development for a device. This is something which took considerable time/effort and is generally accepted by developers to be non-trivial.
*Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are not simply pulled from other kernels already available.
*Tools and utilities with a clear purpose, and which are well-made, and useful to users. They should have an element of originality, either in purpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.
*Significant port of a ROM from one device to another, giving enhanced features or functionality to the users of the target device.
All other development work goes into "Android Development".
[SIZE=+1]Q2: can I SIM unlock this phone for other carriers?[/SIZE]
The m7wlv comes SIM unlocked out of the box. It only works on certain frequencies. See if your carrier supports the below frequencies.
CDMA: 800/1900MHZ,
UMTS/HSPA: 900/2100MHz,
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz,
LTE: 700MHz (Band 13)(only Verizon uses this LTE band thus far)
[SIZE=+1]Q3: Why did you refer it to m7wlv?[/SIZE]
That is the board code name. It is also referred to as the m7vzw (named after the carrier) and HTC6500LVW (Model name, also seen in build prop as HTC6500LVWBLU for the Best Buy blue variant). You can call it what you want as it still means this model.
All names said above are used in the build.prop file. When you refer to a device, you usually refer it with the board name, which is m7wlv
[SIZE=+1]Q4: Is root possible with (OS version here)?[/SIZE]
Even though Verizon has blocked HTCdev access to unlock our bootloaders, thanks to jcase, beaups, and a few others, every release is unlockable and can attain S-off status.
Rumrunner(1.10.605.2, 1.10.605.8, 1.10.605.10, 1.10.605.15)
Firewater(2.10.605.1, 3.11.605.1)(Firewater shut down, so use Sunshine for these two firmwares as well)
Sunshine(4.10.605.3, 5.28.605.2) (costs $25 after successful test to ensure unlock and S-off works for the release version)
To find your firmware version, go to settings - about phone - software version.
[SIZE=+1]Q5: I have x issue and need to return to stock, How do I do this?[/SIZE]
Be sure you read and follow directions closely! There has been many incidences where people didn't follow the instructions and had a permabrick on their hands! Do NOT go S-on until you are 100% sure you are fully stock from a good RUU flash.
How to: return to stock Locked/S-On
[SIZE=+1]Q6: I am having an issue with data/wifi/call signal. Should I return it as it is defective?[/SIZE]
There is an uncommon occurrence on newer HTC devices where they sometimes get signal issues after a new ROM flash. This isn't hardware related (90% of the time). Something happens where the radio partition gets corrupt after a ROM flash. The way to resolve this is:
Back up your /system and /data partition in custom recovery
reboot to bootloader
Plug your phone into the PC
Flash stock recovery from here
Flash radio/firmware from here
type "fastboot erase cache"
Perform a "Factory Reset" by selecting the option from bootloader
Flash your custom recovery
restore /system and /data
[SIZE=+1]Q7: I don't want to unlock or S-off yet. How can I install the latest OTApkg.zip (I am not on Verizon's network)?[/SIZE]
Even without s-off and no root, you can still utilize the OTApkg.zip.
You need to put it on your device's storage.
Boot to stock recovery, exclamation point/phone image appears, then press volume up and power to get to the stock recovery menu.
Choose install update from sd card.
Select OTApkg.zip and let it do its thing.
There is another method I recently just did personally. The new HTC Sync app will search for updates on our phone and prompt to install the most recent update. The app will download the update and install it automagically for you. It doesn't matter what version you are on, it will update to the latest update the first time without having to install each one individually.
[SIZE=+1]Q8: Help! How do I recover from this brick?[/SIZE]
What was the last thing you did before your device wouldn't boot?
I was going to flash a custom rom. I wiped everything, even internal storage! Why can't we have an external SD card?!
All is not lost!
while in recovery:
Put your ROM file in the same folder as ADB
"adb push your_rom_filename.zip /sdcard/"
Back out so you can click on the install file on sdcard option and viola...
I don't know what I did! I cannot get into recovery, or boot up past the HTC splash screen!
Never Fear!
RUU to the rescue! Follow that link and the instructions precisely. WARNING: doing and RUU will wipe the internal SD and return the phone to "Out of box" condition (except you will still be s-off and unlocked)
[SIZE=+1]Q9: After I rooted and flashed a custom recovery, I have this annoying red text on boot up. How do I get rid of this?[/SIZE]
This thread is your saving grace on getting rid of that pesky "developer warning"
[SIZE=+1]Q10: I bought this phone off someone and do not have a proof of purchase, is my warranty still valid?[/SIZE]
When the device is first booted up and "set up," it sends HTC the serial Number and IMEI. HTC knows approximately when the phone was first purchased by this info. This means you do not need to be the original owner, or have the original proof of purchase. The warranty is still valid if it is within the warranty time period.
[SIZE=+1]Q11: My camera has an odd purple tint! What can I do to fix this?[/SIZE]
This is a common issue with the HTC One. It is a manufacture defect. There is solutions that may mask the issue, but it is only temporary and it will get worse over time.
Contact HTC support and get a replacement/repair.
Note: I talked to a Rep today about a different issue and brought up the infamous camera issue. HTC support supervisors (HTC North America at least) have instructed their employees to accept camera warranty claims even for phones out of the warranty period. This means if you get the purple tint and you are out of warranty, you can still send it in!
[SIZE=+1]Q12: What is the best kernel/ROM for this phone?[/SIZE]
Stop, do not pass go. There is no "best" anything. We all have different tastes and want different features or perks. Saying one Rom is the best for me, will not be the best for anyone else. Someone might want a powerhouse "performance trumps all" setup, while someone else could care less about a thousand or more on their antutu score and would want to squeeze every minute of battery life they can.
Read the features and benefits of every Rom (or kernel) and see what suits you best. Never ask which is best, they all are great.
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m7wlv -- m7vzw
The OP notes that this about the HTC One m7wlv. But we often see it called m7vzw. Explain this, please.
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The OP notes that this about the HTC One m7wlv. But we often see it called m7vzw. Explain this, please.
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The official code name for the Verizon one is wlv (just check what it says when you do fastboot getvar all). Unofficially, people use the term vzw as that is the Carrier it is branded for. I will add that info in the FAQ.
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Wlv essentially stands for world LTE Verizon. Sprint is wls. We have wwe phones. Other carriers and European ones are u and ul. U for universal gsm, and ul for universal lte.
Sent from my Lunar Ecliptic One.
Added the time old question almost every new person asks when they freshly root their shiny phone.
If you see a question you have seen asked in the m7wlv (or even the m7u forum that applies to us) that I missed, let me know, and I will mention you in the change log for that question.
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Added a note to OP. It is also below. I had to contact HTC support for an issue with my wife's phone, and found some nice info. Also suggested to HTC about adding DSP to stock. The tech said they accept suggestions to improve their products. Hopefully they listen to it...
"Note: I talked to a Rep today about a different issue and brought up the infamous camera issue. HTC support supervisors (HTC North America at least) have instructed their employees to accept camera warranty claims even for phones out of the warranty period. This means if you get the purple tint and you are out of warranty, you can still send it in!"
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Edited Q7 to add a new method to update the phone when not on Verizon's network. I stumbled across this one when returning my wife's phone to stock (I like using the signed 2.x.y.z ruu)
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Can I use this for an At&t htc? I didn't find a GPE in AT&T section.
Can I use this for an At&t htc? I didn't find a GPE in AT&T section.
Hello, so I'm going to be receiving my HTC One M9 tommorrow morning, and I was hoping the XDA community could help me with some fundemental questions regarding my new phone.
So, first off, this is a Verizon version, but I'm 95% certain that it comes factory unlocked. HTC6535LVWSG. I hear some people have issues rooting/S-OFFing the Verizon version (VZW at least, but I don't think mine is), but if it's not that version (or already unlocked, for that matter), does that mean that I will be able to load up any recovery from here? Assuming that I've gotten a recovery installed (my past phone was an EVO 3D, which I've tinkered quite a bit with), will I be able to use ROMs posted here? Or will I need to use specially made Verizon ROMs?
All of that aside, do you know where I can find the Marshmellow RUU that I heard just came out for the M9? As mentioned in the earlier paragraph, will I need a special GSM version for it?
EDIT: I found the news post at HTC, I'm assuming that it would work for any M9.
Thanks for anyone who responds!
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Hello, so I'm going to be receiving my HTC One M9 tommorrow morning, and I was hoping the XDA community could help me with some fundemental questions regarding my new phone.
So, first off, this is a Verizon version, but I'm 95% certain that it comes factory unlocked. HTC6535LVWSG. I hear some people have issues rooting/S-OFFing the Verizon version (VZW at least, but I don't think mine is), but if it's not that version (or already unlocked, for that matter), does that mean that I will be able to load up any recovery from here? Assuming that I've gotten a recovery installed (my past phone was an EVO 3D, which I've tinkered quite a bit with), will I be able to use ROMs posted here? Or will I need to use specially made Verizon ROMs?
All of that aside, do you know where I can find the Marshmellow RUU that I heard just came out for the M9? As mentioned in the earlier paragraph, will I need a special GSM version for it?
EDIT: I found the news post at HTC, I'm assuming that it would work for any M9.
Thanks for anyone who responds!
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NO! SLOW DOWN!
If you get a Verizon M9 do not flash anything!! Unless its specifically for the Verizon M9 or the developer of the ROM/Kernel states it will work with CDMA or Verizon M9's.
As of right now only the GSM Marshmallow update is out. Do not flash this RUU/update on a Verizon M9. It's better if you start off by just looking around for Verizon M9 threads. Ask questions in other threads if that particular ROM or file will work on a Verizon M9 or better yet read through most if not all the posts in those threads because more often than not someone in your shoes has already asked the same question.
But if you received a locked/S-ON device do not update/change anything on that phone until you've freshen up on whether or not S-OFF/Rooting is available for the software that comes already on it. It'll save you the headache of playing around with a new phone and it auto updates now your stuck without S-OFF.
Also don't ask questions in "General" that's what the Q&A section is for.
Congratulations! I think you'll be pleased with the M9.
Diaclaimer: I'm a hobbyist and not an expert - you should do some reading of threads and
research before attempting to hack your phone.
A few things:
- you may find better help in the Verizon HTC M9 forums (http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9)
- S-OFF is currently only possible on Verizon's variant of the M9 via a Java Clip. They're expensive, but there are fellow XDA members who own them and are willing to use theirs on your phone, usually for a reasonable fee
- until your bootloader is unlocked (pretty sure that your phone will NOT come that way - Verizon is not user-friendly) or you are S-OFF, you will not be able to flash a custom anything (recovery or ROM). Attempting to do so may render your phone unusable.
- Marshmallow has been released officially for the developer/unlocked variant of the M9, which is GSM-only. The Verizon variant is CDMA; the RUU will fail to install on your device.
Hope this is helpful. You probably have a bit more effort to go through to be able to hack your phone, but it's very doable and worth the effort. The M9 is a solid device and all the moreso once you have S-OFF (or an unlocked bootloader) and root.
Unfortunately, UPS Next Day Air has failed me, with yet another delay, so I won't have the phone today. :v
I know it's already paid off, and I'm pretty sure it's factory unlocked. What determines if it's a VWZ version or not? How does this affect my modding processes? I hear of several people who can do stuff to "non-VWZ" versions.
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Not for the vzw m9. Big difference is the versions they can do already can use htc dev to bootloader unlock and root. Vzw is another can of worms because we need a root exploit before anything can happen.
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So, I got the phone today. It was supposed to be delayed but I guess they managed to deliver it! I have to go, so the phone is gonna sit here for a couple hours, but it can boot into the bootloader (I'm not sure if this is a sign that it can be unlocked, but we'll see, I guess.)
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So, I got the phone today. It was supposed to be delayed but I guess they managed to deliver it! I have to go, so the phone is gonna sit here for a couple hours, but it can boot into the bootloader (I'm not sure if this is a sign that it can be unlocked, but we'll see, I guess.)
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Any phone can boot into the bootloader. To determine your phone's status, you'll need to look at the upper left corner when you are in bootloader mode: does it say 'unlocked' or 'locked'? Similarly, does it say 'S-ON' or 'S-OFF'?
First of all you should, in my opinion, deal with the differences of a CDSM to a GSM device in detail and read especially the Verizon specific threads in this forum very carefull.
Seconed to it you should pick up the full information about block based OTA politics, and the major changes regarding moddifications to Android 5.1.1. If never done before you should also read the basic threads abaut unlocking, rooting, fastboot as well as adb commands. If need for further help occurs it is hightly important to be able to explain when, where and assumingly why a problem/error occured.
Besides this have fun with your One M9!
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First of all you should, in my opinion, deal with the differences of a CDSM to a GSM device in detail and read especially the Verizon specific threads in this forum very carefull.
Seconed to it you should pick up the full information about block based OTA politics, and the major changes regarding moddifications to Android 5.1.1. If never done before you should also read the basic threads abaut unlocking, rooting, fastboot as well as adb commands. If need for further help occurs it is hightly important to be able to explain when, where and assumingly why a problem/error occured.
Besides this have fun with your One M9!
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Ah, I know the ins and outs of adb and fastboot already, as I've had my fair share of working with the HTC bootloader-- however I just wanted to clarify some things that I had not previously known. Thanks for the advise, though.
Guys please, anyone can verify that the buttons (power and volume) are a bit 'down after a few months of use??