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MetaWatch Strata

For those who haven't seen it yet, MetaWatch is releasing a commercial version in the very near future. You can buy into the project on KickStarter, similar to the Pebble:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/metawatch/metawatch-strata-the-smartwatch-for-the-iphone-4s
MetaWatch has been shipping a really nice watch for a while now. In fact they have three models (Original Digital, Analog, Updated digital (available in white and black) but they are technically developer models, not really intended for prime time, normal consumer use. The Strata WILL be a consumer model. It's designed as a sports watch, so the colors are a little "splashy" in my opinion, but still a nice looking watch.
I've been using one of the updated digital models for a couple of months now and I really love it. They have some very creative people who are developing for it and putting out some interesting updates to it. That's reason one that I bought mine.
Reason two is that the MetaWatch people came from Fossil. They aren't computer guys who decided to build a watch. Rather they are watch and computer guys building a smart watch. They history with watches makes me more confident they'll get the watch part right.
Finally, I think MetaWatch gets it right in terms of their philosophy. Many of the recent offerings I've seen seemed to be designed as a stand alone units that happen to also happen to connect with a phone. Some of them have Wifi, GPS, even MP3 playback and headphone jacks. Some even run a version of Android on them. For me, personally, I don't want another device that I have to update software on, or that duplicates many of the functions I already have on my phone. I want a smart watch that works as an auxiliary display. Giving me relevant information, at a glance, without needing to mess around with menus. The MetaWatch does this really, really well.
Anyway, long story short... check out the watch. I think you'll like it.

That looks really good. I'll stick with the Pebble I only had to kick in $99 for, though, because of price.

Well, they were late in getting things shipped out, but the Strata is now finally shipping out to backers. You can also buy it now and should have it in time for Christmas...
http://metawatch.myshopify.com/

Response to Common Complaints & Criticism

Alright, alright. I had to create an account after reading several critiques and complaints on this forum. I'm sure a lot of people that are considering buying the phone will be popping in and reading the very same complaints while considering their purchase. The purpose of this thread is to clear up said complaints, from my own personal experience.
First of all, I'd like to ensure you all who haven't bought the phone yet that you absolutely have to buy it and experience it for yourself before making any decision. After all, you usually have 14 days to return it. I say this because, while the phone is not "perfect" as many here on this forum have pointed out, it is probably one of the most aesthetically pleasing phones I've ever laid eyes on, and feels incredibly comfortable in the hand. Pictures DO NOT do this phone justice, and the overflowing screen, combined with the size and weight of the phone, gives an overwhelming feeling of vibrancy when holding/viewing. The colors are phenomenal, the contrast is phenomenal, the screen just pops out at you and is bursting with seamless beauty.
(Cost) The phone is expensive, yes, but there's a reason for that: it's a top tier smartphone. If you haven't gotten used to a hefty price tag yet, then you must not have been in the market for long. If you can't afford it, get a OnePlus 3, but I can guarantee you it wont be as fine an experience. Most cell phone companies offer financing, too. Meaning, you make a small monthly payment for the phone itself over the course of the 1-2 years that you'll be using it anyway, and if you decide to, you simply cancel service and pay the phone off. Most companies will then give you an unlock code, and the phone is then yours to do what you please with it, or bring it to another service provider. Either way, every dime you pay while financing brings you closer to owning it, if you decide not to buy it outright. I personally will probably just pay mine off when the price tag gets down to about $400 dollars.
(Delicacy or Lack Thereof) As I stated in the introduction, the phone is thin, comfortable, feels great in the hand, but the overflowing screen gives it a very large & vibrant appearance even though it doesn't FEEL that large in the hand. Does this mean it feels delicate and fragile? Not at all. Now that's not to say you wouldn't WANT to drop it, but for the most part, it's easy to handle, has the perfect weight to it, and doesn't feel fragile by any means. This phone is NOT going to scratch/break in your pocket, unless you're mashing your legs into the sharp edges of tables or falling onto it, or for whatever reason like to keep sharp objects in the same pocket as your phone. It's NOT going to scratch by simply setting it down on a table, or having it slide in between the seats of your car.
This brings me down to a point I've emphasized before: If you're going to buy a $900 phone? DO... not... drop it! I mean, honestly, lets be real here guys: accidents DO happen. However, it's those of us who are incredibly careful, who are capable of owning phones like these. If you're someone who is very clumsy, careless, active, etc., perhaps NO phone of this design type is meant for you. That is not the fault of the manufacturers. There are many phone manufacturers who build phones designed for DURABILITY. My last Galaxy, which wasn't exactly designed for durability, lasted me 2 FULL YEARS however, and has never been dropped once, nor does it have a single scratch. This phone IS durable though- it's durable for a phone of THIS make, this design, and trust me... this is a stylish designer phone, it simply is not an ACTIVE phone. If you want to turn it INTO an ACTIVE phone? Buy a damn Otterbox Defender. When you're hiking/rock climbing/playing basketball, whatever- you're going to have an ACTIVE Note 7 phone. Then when you're doing some casual driving, sitting at a desk, sitting anywhere at home really, at dinner with friends, or pretty much doing anything that's non-active, pop it out of it's case. You'll then, once again, have the nicest phone that anyone's ever laid eyes on.
To summarize the above, be a responsible phone owner, and you'll be fine. If you can't handle the responsibility of owning such an expensive product that was designed to be durable while keeping a fantastic overall appearance, don't buy it. You can't fault manufacturers for your lack of care.
(Battery Life) I've owned this phone for a little while now, and I've charged it approximately one and a half times (by a half, I mean plugged it in at 40-50% before leaving the house) per day. I keep High Accuracy GPS on, I keep brightness at 85-95%, I keep a multicolor 'Always On' display up, I have the "screen off" time set to 3 minutes, I have HD quality wallpapers for home & lock screens, and I keep WiFi on. I have yet to use any of the battery saver modes or capabilities. During the first few days of owning this phone, I would install back to back programs, take 15+ pictures while playing around with the different camera & video settings, record videos of my screen, experiment with the S pen, experiment with different mobile games, set up setting after setting, security feature after security feature, experiment with high quality video, stream YouTube & Netflix movies, the list goes on and on and I'm sure anyone who's ever owned a new phone knows exactly what I'm talking about.
During these times, my battery would last approximately 9 hours before falling to 20% or below. That's EXTREME HEAVY use, with battery draining functions, brightness, and high resolution screens, and no power saving whatsoever giving me 9 hours of use without even falling into critical battery levels. When I get down to around 20%, I plug it in and it takes about 40-50 minutes to charge back to 100%. If my battery is at 30% or higher, I simply plug it in and it's charged in 30-40 minutes or less. I have ONCE allowed my phone to fall below 10%, and it took no longer than one hour to charge to 100%. So yes, the battery is EXTREMELY good, and it charges extremely fast.
(Fingerprints) This phone will have fingerprints on it within just a few minutes of use, however, they are hardly noticeable unless you're actually looking for them. Once it gets marked up really heavily, which only takes about two hours of use to happen, it becomes a little more noticeable at a glance, but still, you have to be UP CLOSE to the phone to even notice. Now, I have EXTREME OCD, so this should bother me a lot more, right? No, it doesn't. What I do is keep 2 microfiber towels- one on my desk(where I spend a lot of my time) and one in my car. Whenever I pick up my phone after an extended period of non-use, I simply wipe it with the dry towel(takes 15 seconds) and viola- it looks like it JUST came out of the box again... brand new. When going somewhere, I do a quick wipe of the phone before exiting my vehicle- and viola. Brand new looking phone sitting in my pocket wherever I'm going. The gorgeous material of this phone is a worthy sacrifice for some barely noticeable fingerprints that can easily be rectified. Oh, by the way. BECAUSE of the material the phone is made of, it is MUCH EASIER to clean with said microfiber towels than the older plastic models, such as the S4. That one took at lot more scrubbing and hitting specific areas, and would also get smudge marks from the fingerprints being "wiped in" by the cloth, that were almost impossible to get rid of.
(The "oh so" Awful Speaker) This is one of the biggest critiques the phone has received, by both people on this forum, and review videos/articles/websites all across the interwebz. And I? I just don't see it. The speaker, to me, is LOUD. Now, it's not booming, bass boosted music cube quality, however... it is loud enough to where I could easily hear it ringing(depending on the ringtone) from across the house in another room. It's also loud enough to where I could play a video, turn the volume to max, set it about 50 feet away, and still hear it vividly. Also, I love the quality of the sound. It doesn't sound cheap, or poor at all to me. Non-speaker voice sound is crystal clear through this during calls. Sometimes if you hold the phone a certain way, you can block off the speaker since it's on the bottom, muffling the sound. However, muscle memory allowed me to quickly get used to preventing this after the very first time it happened. I never have a problem with the speaker being on the bottom, outside of the fact that I slightly prefer the headphone jack being on the top.
(Performance) Mentions of slow loading, TouchWiz lag, etc on this forum, I have yet to experience once. TouchWiz also has a much better interface now, especially after downloading a free theme that I liked. TouchWiz does not lag at all for me. Nothing on this phone loads "slowly" for me. I did a screen-record video of myself navigating different apps, games, etc on my phone, and literally sh** was opening within milliseconds of each tap, minus games, which, depending on the size/type of game, would take just a few seconds. I see no "slowness" in this phone whatsoever. There's literally not even delays between navigating pages on Facebook, switching from Facebook to YouTube and then from YouTube to Gmail and then from Gmail to a video on my phone. If I were to do all these app switches and loads in order of what I just listed, it would take no more than the time it takes me to open the Edge screen and tap the different apps. Game-play on games such as Mage and Minions is fluid, without noticeable frame drops, and without lag.
(Fingerprint & Iris Scanners) Fingerprint scanner works perfectly if you actually use it right, i.e., gently place your *entire* fingertip over the button. The iris scanner is not perfect, but it works 95% of the time and is FAST... VERY FAST when it does work. If you're looking for a "more secure" method of locking your phone- that's what it's for. It is supposed to be much more secure than the fingerprint scanner, and it's very fast as long as you do it right. Like, I'm talking, sometimes I don't even have time to see the "eye circles" appear on the screen. It just unlocks in a millisecond, as I'm already holding the phone in the correct position upon swiping up. Now, if you wear glasses or contacts, just skip the iris scanner. It is not 100% necessity, by any means, and your phone can be secured with simply the fingerprint scanner or a complex password. Not the end of the world.
(Camera) I'm only very slightly disappointed with the outdoor light(ex: sitting in a carport with an overhead light at night). This causes somewhat of a grainy appearance in the camera. In every other light/dark scenario so far, unless zoomed in too far, these pictures are crystal clear. Near professional. Beautiful. The camera is fast & responsive. The interface is very easy to use and understand.
Now, I do not consider myself to be a "Samsung fanboy," nor a "Galaxy fanboy." I do not dislike Apple Products outside of the fact that I think they're just a tad highly priced in comparison to Samsung(I know, the difference is becoming very slight, but even still). My wife has the 6s Plus, and it's a great phone. I do not work for Samsung, I do not work for any cell phone company at all, I am not paid to write any of the above. This was simply my unbiased response/personal review of the Note 7, that I was inclined to write after seeing so many negative comments on this forum in addition to a lot of misinformation. I WANT others to get the same experience I'm getting with my Note 7, and frankly, not be discouraged by others. So there you go.

i can agree to just about everything that you said, except for my experience with the battery. i haven't had a chance to really test it in optimal conditions because i have little to no service while i'm at work underground in an elevator shaft but we will see. i hear mixed things about screen on time, etc. but most things are a factory reset away if there is any trouble. for the most part this is one of my favorite devices i have ever owned. if you love the note line or never have been in it, this phone (note 7) is the culmination of all of its beauty and brawn.

Ace Ryan said:
After all, you usually have 14 days to return it
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Anyway please remember that we are on an International forum and this possibility is not always offered in some countries, or impracticable or too expensive when buying online from some far east sellers.
IMHO it's still too early for a definitive evaluation of the expensive N7, so personally I preferred to cancel my pre-order and wait a couple of months after having seen many reports of daily usage from normal users like me, not only web magazine techie or pseudo-techie people (unfortunately sometime questionable if not clearly biased... )

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Anyway please remember that we are on an International forum and this possibility is not always offered in some countries, or impracticable or too expensive when buying online from some far east sellers.
IMHO it's still too early for a definitive evaluation of the expensive N7, so personally I preferred to cancel my pre-order and wait a couple of months after having seen many reports of daily usage from normal users like me, not only web magazine techie or pseudo-techie people (unfortunately sometime questionable if not clearly biased... )
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Deciding to wait is not a bad idea- however- while you do not know me and vice versa, I promise you that all of what I said above is completely true and honest, with no bias whatsoever. The problem is, people who "review" things for a living need something to REVIEW. They NEED both good AND bad. That leads to nitpicking. I on the other-hand, don't have a reason to nitpick, as I am not a paid reviewer or anything like that. Not only that, but I rely on this phone heavily for work, and I use it almost constantly during down times at work to keep myself entertained & busy. That said, even though I do not have reason to nitpick, I DO have many reasons to NEED an amazing phone.
My phone, as of right now, is far from factory default. I already have about 7 videos, 35+ pictures, I've downloaded every program that I used on my previous Galaxy phone, IN ADDITION to other programs/apps/games.
This is part of why I wrote such an extensive review, because even though I haven't had the phone that long, I've been putting it through the ringer and it's still performing phenomenally. I've been glued to it since the day I got it almost non-stop. While using it heavily for work, I'm texting/calling CONSTANTLY, almost every 10-25 minutes throughout 10 - 14 hour shifts, in addition to taking credit card payments on this phone. That said, I've accumulated close to a thousand text messages or more already and a pretty massive call log.
Also, of course I'm aware that return policies differ, not only from place to place but from carrier to carrier, which is why I said "usually." I do not want anyone to mistake that statement for fact and cause them to buy a phone they cannot return, so I'll add some extra emphasis on that in my OP. Everyone, however, should always do their own research on their sellers return policies and general procedures. This should be common sense.

themissionimpossible said:
Anyway please remember that we are on an International forum and this possibility is not always offered in some countries, or impracticable or too expensive when buying online from some far east sellers.
IMHO it's still too early for a definitive evaluation of the expensive N7, so personally I preferred to cancel my pre-order and wait a couple of months after having seen many reports of daily usage from normal users like me, not only web magazine techie or pseudo-techie people (unfortunately sometime questionable if not clearly biased... )
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Hi. Respectfully if you believe what is written on forums regarding ANY device you would never make a purchase, not even a pair of shoes.
THE only review that counts should and must be your own.
I have been buying tech stuff since the early 70's and research every single thing I buy prior to purchase. I find this silly habit of mine part of the fun buying experience for me. I have read glowing reports on tech that I have returned the same day and read awful reports on tech that I have kept and used for years.
To cancel the Note 7 based on what you have read either positive or negative is unwise. Take forum posting. How many satisfied owners are going to seek out a forum and write praise? Now, how many are going to write to complain! Its called 'human nature'.
Its totally disproportionate to reality. Sitting on the fence is not the way to live. Buy, test then make your own judgement. You can always return it if not satisfied.
Best of luck, Ryland :good:

The battery takes a lot longer to charge for mine. Does it get hot when charging for anyone else?

Ryland Johnson said:
THE only review that counts should and must be your own.
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Respectfully, IMHO a very pointless suggestion..
I just don't want to buy something first and then regret to have bought it and wasted my money....

themissionimpossible said:
Respectfully, IMHO a very pointless suggestion..
I just don't want to buy something first and then regret to have bought it and wasted my money....
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How do you know that your wants and needs are the same as whoever's critique you're reading? For some reason this forum has an inordinately large number of OMG!'rs that freak out relatively easily. And most are freaking out at theory as they've never touched a Note7 better yet own one.
No phone is going to be perfect as there are always going to be OEM induced compromises. They are what they are. I came from a Note5 and the Note7 exceeds it in every way including all the categories listed by the OP. Some things are different but none that aren't made up for in other ways.
People should buy what makes them happy and do their homework first. That includes reading reviews and forums but filtering the results to what applies to their specific needs and usage. Some of the OCD posts in this forum make me laugh. No phone built or to be built will ever satisfy some folks here.

BarryH_GEG said:
How do you know that your wants and needs are the same as whoever's critique you're reading? For some reason this forum has an inordinately large number of OMG!'rs that freak out relatively easily. And most are freaking out at theory as they've never touched a Note7 better yet own one.
No phone is going to be perfect as there are always going to be OEM induced compromises. They are what they are. I came from a Note5 and the Note7 exceeds it in every way including all the categories listed by the OP. Some things are different but none that aren't made up for in other ways.
People should buy what makes them happy and do their homework first. That includes reading reviews and forums but filtering the results to what applies to their specific needs and usage. Some of the OCD posts in this forum make me laugh. No phone built or to be built will ever satisfy some folks here.
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At Last a voice of reason. Bravo! :good: :good: :good:
Ryland
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Respectfully, IMHO a very pointless suggestion..
I just don't want to buy something first and then regret to have bought it and wasted my money....
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Hi, Thanks for the reply. I like certain fruit and what I enjoy you may not so I may say X fruit is bitter but you may like bitter...It truly is a question of perspective.
You simply can't base what you fear buying on other peoples comments be they positive nor negative. Its all so subjective as pointed out several times, mot of the naysayers here, and there are a few, don't even own the device! You are nervous to purchase in case you don't like it based on this forum. Please Youtube this mobile and read the professional reviews, people who have been testing these devices for years. They all appear to me to write and speak highly of the note 7. BTW that would not change how I felt about my ownership even if they spoke poorly of it as I think its a very good work device. NOT for everyone though, not supposed to be. It is for me with bells on.
I wish you well with what ever you purchase. :highfive:
Ryland

Finally I was abput to create a thread about how we discuss the greatness of the phone. Too many negative ppl complaining if you dont like it pick up said phone and take it back, this community is suppose to be positive supportive not bashing new products or what others enjoy regardless. Refreshing to see positivity I love this phone it's simply amazing and superb. Thank you to the others that are positive in this forum.
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very true indeed matsuyamakaze

Phones, like cars and pretty much everything else, are a matter of personal choice. For me this is by far the best phone I have ever owned (last two were a SonyZ3 and a Z3+). I would agree that the speaker is pretty soft but only an issue if you want to use it to play music (get a BT speaker). There's nothing more that I want in a feature packed phone. Read the reviews and make your own choice.

the best fone of 2016 till 2019 ,thats y its note 7 and not note 6 , im so pissed off by all this criticism
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The only complaint I have is that they took out the features from the old s note app like link to action. Besides that I live this gorgeous piece of hardware. Oh another complaint I have to cover this beauty with a case. That's about it though. Even with the recalls. I still love it.
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Do you feel there are any caveats to the curved screen? I'm considering a Note 7 because the curvature is a lot less noticeable than on the S7 Edge, which was criticized for distorting the image around the curve afaik. I currently have a Oneplus One that I'm quite happy with but would love something just a tiny bit physically smaller and with a fingerprint reader but don't feel the Oneplus 3 is much of an upgrade in other areas.

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Respectfully, IMHO a very pointless suggestion..
I just don't want to buy something first and then regret to have bought it and wasted my money....
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With mutual respect. So what you suggest is we should all read your opinion and purchase one based on your opinion? Opinions are like ears, we all have them and to suggest we buy based on any report is unwise. Taste is a major factor not to mention what we need the device to perform. I need the S-pen so that leaves me zero options.
No one on earth can choose ones hi-fi set up for us, we all have different preferences in sound reproduction that's why we have such a massive choice and stores that will arrange a listening session before ones purchases. 'The best' is simply ones own opinion and personal taste. Same with mobile phones.
With such a purchase you have to see the item and test it yourself. Forum opinions and professional reports can, on times, be a rough guide but that is all they are. True professional in the field of electronics will state that.
Ryland :good:
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Do you feel there are any caveats to the curved screen? I'm considering a Note 7 because the curvature is a lot less noticeable than on the S7 Edge, which was criticized for distorting the image around the curve afaik. I currently have a Oneplus One that I'm quite happy with but would love something just a tiny bit physically smaller and with a fingerprint reader but don't feel the Oneplus 3 is much of an upgrade in other areas.
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First thing. Do you NEED the S-pen? If you don't then consider the S7. Great deals can be found on the S7 at present.
Second point. I have been buying the 'edge' editions since they where introduced and have yet to find a half decent screen saver of any type be it skin or armor glass type. Does this matter? Well yes it does as the Note 7 comes with a more drop resistant Gorilla glass BUT the trade off is it appears softer so 'may' scratch more easily than the S7 edge? I have my Note 7 in the Samsung LED flip case and I have left the factory screen saver on until I can find the courage to change it to the Samsung screen saver looking at me in its box!
YOU must decide what you want then what you need from your mobile and purchase accordingly. Its great fun looking and searching for ones next technology fix! :highfive:
Don't be pushed and don't rush. Enjoy the shopping experience.
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Ryland Johnson said:
First thing. Do you NEED the S-pen? If you don't then consider the S7. Great deals can be found on the S7 at present.
Second point. I have been buying the 'edge' editions since they where introduced and have yet to find a half decent screen saver of any type be it skin or armor glass type. Does this matter? Well yes it does as the Note 7 comes with a more drop resistant Gorilla glass BUT the trade off is it appears softer so 'may' scratch more easily than the S7 edge? I have my Note 7 in the Samsung LED flip case and I have left the factory screen saver on until I can find the courage to change it to the Samsung screen saver looking at me in its box!
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I don't necessarily need it but I would probably like it. The S7 is too small for me, I'm used to a 5.5" display so anything smaller just seems a bit too small now. I find myself doing a lot of reading on my phone now whereas before with a 5" display phone I used a tablet a lot more. I was wondering about the curved Note 7 display mainly if it causes any problems clicking icons that are on the edge of the screen or seeing them if they are right on the curved part.
Screen protectors or cases don't really matter to me as I generally use my phones without any. So far haven't broken or scratched a single display. If anybody makes a Oneplus One "sandstone black" type texture skin or case for a Note 7 I might reconsider as I love how grippy that is.

Ryland Johnson said:
No one on earth can choose ones hi-fi set up for us, we all have different preferences in sound reproduction that's why we have such a massive choice and stores that will arrange a listening session before ones purchases. 'The best' is simply ones own opinion and personal taste. Same with mobile phones.
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I see you probably live in a more favorable country...
I don't know a store here in Italy that let you install and test by yourself with their 3 or 4 demo top smartphones all your main apps and games, and let you play with those phones for a few hours... Usually those demo phones don't even have a valid SIM card inserted and/or Internet wifi access...
And of course I can't just go to USA or to some other country only for such tests.
Conversely, here in Italy a lot of hi-fi stores let you test many different audio or video setups with your own video or music material, so at least in my case your proper suggestion to do the same with smartphones unfortunately is actually not practicable as with hi-fi...

What are your thoughts on the upcoming Red Hydrogen One?

What are your thoughts on the upcoming Red Hydrogen One? It's specs and software?
Also, do you think the display will be "holographic" as they claim it to be, or just another gimmick?
Drop your thought below. Try not to post links, though you are free to attach pictures.
Eclipse

The Red Hydrogen intrigues me for several reasons.
First, and foremost, Jim Jannard. Many here may not know why that name is important, but Jim founded Oakley and innovated in an industry that was lacking; completely changing the industry irrevocably. Jim redefined the science and design of eyewear forever as Oakley X Metal was the culmination of impeccable design and perfected materials. Something about my X Metal XX makes me want to see the Titanium version of the Hydrogen One. Jim is a perfectionist and devoted 1000% to what he does. I expect this to be the same.
I expect the approach I've seen in Oakley to continue with RED, and so far, based on everything I have read and seen, the science, technology, and innovation the man is known for is evident in RED devices' design language. Check out Marquee Brownlee's video of the prototype on Youtube. You can see the same principals applied
Another reason I am excited is Holographic display. This will be an industry game-changer. So far, we haven't had a look at it, but soon (i infer from the proto video) we will.
Modular accessories are another aspect that pique my interest. I can say i dislike moto mods due to the bulk it adds to a device, but the implementation on the RED device appears to be similar. (pins, magnets). Soon we will see how much better (or possibly worse) this implementation is.
In an age where the average flagship is already close to $1000, it honestly makes sense for a perfectionist like Jim to enter the scene with the drive, vision, and knowledge to innovate and improve an industry that has had shortcomings prevalent for years. (death of project ara, loss of headphone jacks, puny batteries (looking at you, Moto Z anything), and sub-par quality parts on premium flagship devices. May RED change the landscape of Android forever.
EDIT: well, nope. not happening. Hydrogen One is pointless. Would have been okay a year ago. Releasing what it is, despite whatever future plans is for modules, etc, is still an exercise in futility. What was the vision here? well, aside from riding the coat tails of the RED name while having nothing RED about it. Clearly, I am generally a JJ fan, but not in this instance. i am embarrassed for hyping this for even a millisecond. If you want to make phones, hire someone that knows something about the enthusiast market, bc we drive the whole industry. just ask One Plus. They figured that out 5 years ago. Always ask the users what they require. the 4 view feature is cool, but ultimately limited and novel at best. the modular system, done right (like Google and Motorola failed to do decently) would be amazing. i even had an ad imagined....[Kid rides his bike to the mail box. gets small box with component board (brain module) goes home and slaps it in his RED phone which reboots into a new OS, graphics, etc.]
That phone should be made of titanium bc while it may not last a lifetime, it will outlast a typical glass or aluminum body. that is the leap Jannard should have had his team taking with 2+ years of R+D and his background and knowledge of titanium. the forever phone. instead of a giant hunk of poop like the hydrogen one is.

Sorry for the DP, but i downloaded the spec sheet (for now). It doesnt say much aside from giving some pricing and materials and a screen size. Useful information to an extent, but again, it really doesn't delve into SOC, RAM, Battery.
edit: Battery: Huge.
Ram: Mediocre at best
SOC: total insult to anyone paying more than $500 for a phone.

Does this have wireless charging?

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Does this have wireless charging?
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Although I cant say for sure, since the phone isnt out yet, it seems like it wont due to the lack of a glass or ceramic back. Also the back of the phone seems to be a terrible surface to wireless charge on from a design perspective. It could get a module addon though so fingers crossed.

V30 Review - Business Insider. WTH

http://http://www.businessinsider.com/lg-v30-review-good-android-phone-headphone-jack-poor-camera-2017-10
I truly have never seen a more amateurish review in my life.
How does this clown have a job?

I JUST thought the same thing. Maybe it was a middle school essay contest?

You might notice that the Pixel 2 smartphones don't support wireless charging, but I don't really perceive wireless charging as an essential feature. Sure, it's nice to have the option, but wireless chargers don't usually come included with phones.
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One of his poor attempts to try to convince readers the LG V30 is not as good as the Pixel 2XL. "SURE, it has Qi wireless charging, but who cares about that?"
I won't buy a phone without Qi wireless charging. So I stopped caring right there for anything he had to say.
However, he's a recent convert from iPhone sheep to Android, so he's probably never experienced the convenience of Qi wireless charging. Ironically, next year, everybody and their brother will have it including Google -- now that Apple's finally adopted it.

I just took a cheap shot on Twitter... LOL
@businessinsider I have never read a more amateurish review in my life on LG V30. Antonio Villas-Boas reviews like #CNN reports news.

I haven't read it but business insider is filth in general

Yeah, I have multiple issues with his review.
1.) V30 is 1 of the worst offenders of bloatware?! That should be corrected to Verizon is 1 of the worst offenders. The T-Mobile variant has less than half the number of blostware apps as his.
2.) The color reproduction of that picture looks a lot worse than the pictures I get from my V30. It makes me think he had a camera filter on and didn't know (after all he's not Android familiar). Even if there was no filter, he is standing multiple steps away from where the Pixel photo was taken and the V30 has multiple cars driving by that would affect the photo and the Pixel does not.
So his photo comparison is automatically invalid for those 2 reasons. Although I think all of us would agree the Pixel 2 camera is slightly better, especially in low light. However the difference definitely isn't as big as he portrays in his comparison.
3.) He says the phone has no features that set it apart from other premium phones. Thats so ridiculously false.
+ The manual video and camera, which most premium phones don't have or not near to the extent of this phone.
+Its also the lightest and smallest 6+ inch phone.
+ Its 1 of only 2 premium phones (S8 active) that pass the military grade approved. It also has better battery life than pretty much all flagships except maybe the S8+ and Blackberry KeyOne.
+Its also 1 of I think only 2 premium phones with a HiFi Quad DAC.
+The second lens is used for wide angle where as most others have second lens for monochrome or optical zoom 2x. So i could go on and on with features this phone has which either no other premium phone has or maybe only 1 other phone.
Anyways this guy shouldn't be reviewing phones. His review is pretty inaccurate and misleading.

It's cute when people get their panties in a bunch because someone else doesn't like their favorite toy...
Life Pro Tip: everyone has an opinion and sometimes they don't like up with your own.
Instead of reading, "this phone is bad," and throwing a fit over it, read why they're saying it's bad and judge for yourself whether or not something works for you or not. Wireless charging, for example. Someone mentioned that the reviewer doesn't care for it. So what? If you like wireless charging, it doesn't matter that the reviewer doesn't.
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It's cute when people get their panties in a bunch because someone else doesn't like their favorite toy...
Life Pro Tip: everyone has an opinion and sometimes they don't like up with your own.
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Let me clue you in on something: When you have a platform that gives people information as fact and you misrepresent that, everyone is within their right to express their opinion of the misrepresentation. Just ask the folks at CNN what lopsided/inaccurate reporting has done for their network.
So, it does matter and needs to be responded to
If we use your thinking, no one should complain about anything. Pixel 2XL screen problems?? NO, that's just the way it is. Come on man.

It's BI. That's really all you need to know.

Yeah, I read the review and thought the same thing. But BI is very "Apple friendly" and they don't tend to like any android that much. But it did show his lack of knowledge if he dismisses a phone because of bloatware. I hate that too but would never just a phone one it when other carriers or unlocked models don't have the same. I also don't consider some of the apps bloatware, like memo and mail. I much prefer LG's mail over gmail for exchange mail. I have gotten great photos from the V30 but I will admit, having both the Pixel and the V30, the Pixel is a better camera but not so much better that I don't prefer the V30 overall. I will take the wide angle lens over the better camera overall. I just find it useful for my situations.

this guy must wipe his ass from back to front

steve841 said:
Let me clue you in on something: When you have a platform that gives people information as fact and you misrepresent that, everyone is within their right to express their opinion of the misrepresentation. Just ask the folks at CNN what lopsided/inaccurate reporting has done for their network.
So, it does matter and needs to be responded to
If we use your thinking, no one should complain about anything. Pixel 2XL screen problems?? NO, that's just the way it is. Come on man.
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Complain about a phone, sure. Complain about someone's opinion on said phone and you're just being a baby.
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Complain about a phone, sure. Complain about someone's opinion on said phone and you're just being a baby.
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Complain about a ****ty review, sure. Complain about someone's opinion on said ****ty review and you're just being a baby.

I'm not upset that somebody doesn't like the phone, I'm upset that my brain hurts from reading a terribly written and childish review. Go ahead and dislike the phone, but if you're getting paid to write about it, have some basic writing skills.

Also, this piece of gold:
"One of the V30's tricks is a highly specialized manual camera mode that lets you play with finer camera settings, but I couldn't get a good picture no matter how much I adjusted settings like ISO, shutter speeds, or white balance."
The shot he was attempting to shoot was an HDR shot.

TFF, the LG image is clearly superior to the Pixel one but he thinks the Pixel image looks prettier never mind the blur.
There may be cam shake, who cares?
Take away message, it's a good phone.

[DISCUSSION] Physical watch versus Smart watch...

What do you think of the physical watch over a smart watch idea?
I think it would be fine if the physical part would be transparent, for example when watching emails it would be completly transparent but normally there would be a led lighting it up

I like the idea of an analog watch with some smart watch features, the reliability of analog would go great with some basic use-cases of digital. Like, a watch that sends text messages? A watch that makes calls? What's the point when you have a phone in your pocket.
For privacy, I prefer analog versions of as much things as I can. Too many companies tracking everything you do on digital stuff.

davidhozic said:
What do you think of the physical watch over a smart watch idea?
I think it would be fine if the physical part would be transparent, for example when watching emails it would be completly transparent but normally there would be a led lighting it up
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To me, this sounds like strapping your car behind some horses. I personally think it's not such a catchy idea, .... but to each his own!

davidhozic said:
What do you think of the physical watch over a smart watch idea?
I think it would be fine if the physical part would be transparent, for example when watching emails it would be completly transparent but normally there would be a led lighting it up
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Doesn't Sound like a bad idea to me!

Smart Watch is better
The thing we wear on our wrists is getting a new life, and that is tech. With touchscreen and sensors, watches are becoming "smartwatches."
We're seeing an era in which everything wants to be improvised with technology. But how do these relatively new gadgets stand against the giants which has built their fame for ages?
We humans see tech a solution to a problem. When we have no way to communicate, we create telephones.
When we need communication mobile, we create smaller devices. When we need portable computing machines, we develop smaller computers we can hold on our palms. Technologies were known to create something based on our needs; it fixes things and eases the way we interact with our world.
But tech isn't stopping there. It's also moving into an industry we know thrives and survives well even without them. Techs are getting into your wardrobe; they're coming as part of your daily clothing. In short, they want to be inseparable from humans.
Apple Watch
With tech getting on our wrists, Apple has it with the Apple Watch, Samsung has it and Pebble also.
More contenders are up and against each other for the market that is once dominated with the likes of Swiss watchmakers. But how do these gadgets affect the industry? They certainly caught a lot of headlines, and they're all up against those old-fashioned watchmakers that made the value of a "watch" at stake.
Apple and others have taken a long time before having the proper time for the proper technology, and the vision to being their products to the market.
What we have on our wrists, previously, were worn by millions; they show bits of time, date and some others. Tech makers are fond on putting more things than necessary, but this time, they made another successful debut.
In the age of information, tech companies are putting more and more information. Smartwatches put a lot more things on your wrist. And the possibility is that there will be more things than you ever need on a device strapped tightly on your wrists.
Will these smartwatches be a replacement to the old-fashioned handmade state-of-the-art pile of cogs and gears? No. The traditional market will always have its own fans because they never want to purely put information on the wrist.
They all move in a different market.

Mohit Bansal Chandigarh says Smart Watches are Better Than Physical Watches
Mohit Bansal Chandigarh says Smart Watches are better as they offer loads of features which are helpful in our daily routine. Some of the features are activity and fitness tracking, heart rate monitoring, GPS, calorie tracking, Barometer, Sedentary Reminder, and Sleep Monitoring.

whizadvert said:
The thing we wear on our wrists is getting a new life, and that is tech. With touchscreen and sensors, watches are becoming "smartwatches."
We're seeing an era in which everything wants to be improvised with technology. But how do these relatively new gadgets stand against the giants which has built their fame for ages?
We humans see tech a solution to a problem. When we have no way to communicate, we create telephones.
When we need communication mobile, we create smaller devices. When we need portable computing machines, we develop smaller computers we can hold on our palms. Technologies were known to create something based on our needs; it fixes things and eases the way we interact with our world.
But tech isn't stopping there. It's also moving into an industry we know thrives and survives well even without them. Techs are getting into your wardrobe; they're coming as part of your daily clothing. In short, they want to be inseparable from humans.
Apple Watch
With tech getting on our wrists, Apple has it with the Apple Watch, Samsung has it and Pebble also.
More contenders are up and against each other for the market that is once dominated with the likes of Swiss watchmakers. But how do these gadgets affect the industry? They certainly caught a lot of headlines, and they're all up against those old-fashioned watchmakers that made the value of a "watch" at stake.
Apple and others have taken a long time before having the proper time for the proper technology, and the vision to being their products to the market.
What we have on our wrists, previously, were worn by millions; they show bits of time, date and some others. Tech makers are fond on putting more things than necessary, but this time, they made another successful debut.
In the age of information, tech companies are putting more and more information. Smartwatches put a lot more things on your wrist. And the possibility is that there will be more things than you ever need on a device strapped tightly on your wrists.
Will these smartwatches be a replacement to the old-fashioned handmade state-of-the-art pile of cogs and gears? No. The traditional market will always have its own fans because they never want to purely put information on the wrist.
They all move in a different market.
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Very true. Absolutely agree.

Omega Seamaster / Longines Conquest / TAG / Rolex are statements in their own right - not just for blind technology. Hey, maybe we are so engrossed with tech that we fail to see that some may NOT want a beeper on their wrist for every notification that comes in/even if customized.
There's something called too much of it.

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Today's time where everyone, keep moving to the modern world here to stay fit is every one 1st priority. But due to unorganized schedule create a lot of health issues. So here is a new smartwatch which helps everyone to keep count everything. As I am working one, and not have enough time to measure my working hours and heart rate. Once I was just browsing in net, and I found bestviewreviews site, there I find lots of option and multiple varieties. And then order smart watch from there. And you will not believe, from the last 5 years, I am using the same smartwatch. It is nice, perfect in counts my pedometers and helps me to control my heart rates too.

Does not look good Sound I think it's a bad Idea.... !!! You have to again focus on it.
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i think its a good idea but i think smart watch is better and it provides a lot of features.
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