I have an S5 and am considering upgrading to the Note 4. The Note 5 doesn't cut it because of the lack of removable battery and microsd slot, and all I want is the larger screen, OIS, and the stylus. I had a Note 2 and loved it, so the Note 4 seems the only logical upgrade path. Oh, and I want a broadcast FM receiver, which lands me at a Sprint Note 4.
My question is, will the pen for my Lenovo Thinkpad x61 tablet work with the Note 4 screen? It will be much more comfortable that the toothpick stylus of the Note series.
Thanks
Keith
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I have an S5 and am considering upgrading to the Note 4. The Note 5 doesn't cut it because of the lack of removable battery and microsd slot, and all I want is the larger screen, OIS, and the stylus. I had a Note 2 and loved it, so the Note 4 seems the only logical upgrade path. Oh, and I want a broadcast FM receiver, which lands me at a Sprint Note 4.
My question is, will the pen for my Lenovo Thinkpad x61 tablet work with the Note 4 screen? It will be much more comfortable that the toothpick stylus of the Note series.
Thanks
Keith
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Keith, I have a pen from a Gateway that I bought off of eBay. It works fine with the Note 4 as well as the Note 3. The Note 4 screen is responsive to my Gateway pen, in that the line is wider/darker when you press harder on the screen with the pen. This is normal behavior for the S-pen on the Note 4. I suggest you take your Thinkpad pen into a Sprint store and try it on a Note 5. You probably won't find a Note 4 in a Sprint store, as Sprint seems to have recalled all the Note 4s. You may, if you're lucky, find a Note 4 at Best Buy. If you do, snap it up, as they may not be available for very long. Rumor has it that Samsung has asked it's distributors to take the Note 4s off the shelf and send them back. I tried over a week ago to get one at a Sprint store in Minnesota, but they were already recalled. None left anywhere in MN from Sprint. I got mine off of Craigslist. They can also be found on eBay.
I had the Note 3; in fact, I still have it. I still don't see the Note 4 as a huge upgrade. The screen is, of course, higher resolution on the Note 4. The Note 4 has Spark. Spark on my Note 4 isn't a whole lot faster than LTE on my Note 3, in Minneapolis. According to Sprint, I live in an area where the Spark signal is at it's peak. It may be that there are just too many people around me trying to use Sprint's Spark. I did do the tweak where you reassign the priorities of the Spark bands. That didn't seem to do much to improve my speed.
There's still a LOT of development going on on the Note 3. The Note 3 also received Lollipop officially. The devs on the Note 3 forum have added apps to their ROMS from the Note 4 and the S6. This is to not meant to demean our awesome developers for the Note 4 in any way.
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So i decided to trade in my Nexus 7 for Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 since it was on sale and the fact it could be used as my main device for calling people instead of using my galaxy note 2. I even watched some reviews for it and saw the Tab with a Phone and Messaging app. But me being me after buying the Tab 3 and looking like a fool in a AT&T store, I realized that the one i bought was the AT&T model instead of the international one. I like the Tab 3 now and was wondering is it possible to get the Phone and Messaging app from the international one and port it to the AT&T one?
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So i decided to trade in my Nexus 7 for Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 since it was on sale and the fact it could be used as my main device for calling people instead of using my galaxy note 2. I even watched some reviews for it and saw the Tab with a Phone and Messaging app. But me being me after buying the Tab 3 and looking like a fool in a AT&T store, I realized that the one i bought was the AT&T model instead of the international one. I like the Tab 3 now and was wondering is it possible to get the Phone and Messaging app from the international one and port it to the AT&T one?
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I do not believe that it has the necessary hardware built into it so that it can get a phone and mms apk working.
Id say.. return it to att and get your dough$$ back..
Then get the T-211 from Amazon or Negri or Ebay.. or go one bigger and get the 8 incher.... and just swap your sim card from your Note 2 into your new tab and BAM!! A 7 inch phone.... BUT.. NO LTE though.... still H+ is damm good speed in STL where I am...7-9 MPS d/l's...
good luck
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I do not believe that it has the necessary hardware built into it so that it can get a phone and mms apk working.
Id say.. return it to att and get your dough$$ back..
Then get the T-211 from Amazon or Negri or Ebay.. or go one bigger and get the 8 incher.... and just swap your sim card from your Note 2 into your new tab and BAM!! A 7 inch phone.... BUT.. NO LTE though.... still H+ is damm good speed in STL where I am...7-9 MPS d/l's...
good luck
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Thanks man, I just might do that. CAN THE T-211 actually make calls? Not that voip crap but actual GSM call?
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Thanks man, I just might do that. CAN THE T-211 actually make calls? Not that voip crap but actual GSM call?
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-T211-...8&qid=1388369150&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+t211
http://www.ebay.com/sch/?_nkw=samsung t211&clk_rvr_id=566897080130
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-t211-galaxy-tab-3-7-0-8gb-3g-unlocked-white.html#.UsDWYbRjHk8
check them out for yourself.....
for a few bucks more... go for a larger screen with an 8"incher... it has thin bezels, so the overall dimensions arent that much if any from the 7 inch.
I had a note...with ATT GO phone sim..... pull the sim out and put it in my Galaxy mega...
Bam...6.3 inch phone....
Pull the sim out of the mega.... jam it in my T315 8".. and guess what??
BAM!! an 8 inch phone..works just like your phone... make and receive calls, mms, data,cams.. everything.. at the same time even..
Look at the pictures of the devices..
See the green phone ICON on the home screens??
just like your phone has now!!
good luck
I have two primary uses for the tablet in question:
1. I will be using it as a GPS navigation unit on my motorcycle. And it will be used to play music thru my motorcycle's speakers.
*I will most likely be using the headphone jack, or possibly some kind of usb audio out / charger (if I can find such a product) to send audio to an amplifier on the motorcycle. Or possibly via bluetooth.
2. When not on the bike I will be using it mostly for watching videos on it, via plex, netflix, memory card, etc.
Questions:
Network/ Internet connectivity:
I live in Canada B.C.
At first I only cared about a basic WiFi only note 8.0, but now I'm thinking I might be inclined to put on a network in the future, and would like to keep that door open(maybe).
1. If I import a USA note (AT&T):
a. will it work on our networks, fido/rogers/bell/etc
b. I will have to root it and flash it with a custom rom to do that right? and if that is true, will I notice any complications in the future?
Note 8.0 vs tab4 pro
I have already done a bit of research into this but thought I would ask a bit on the subject
The tab4 pro looks overall better, but also more expensive.
!. The only spec difference that I would really care about is the higher resolution screen that the tab4 has. would any one say it's a major difference in reality?
2. Are there any other notable feature that the tab4 has over the 8.0 that I might be overlooking?
Thank you for your help. any amount input is welcome.
Are you talking about the tab pro 8.4 or a tab 4 8.0? I really like the 8.4 tab pro. The screen is amazing on it but I'm not going to count my note 8.0 out either as the picture quality has been plenty satisfying to me. The tab pro has the newer faster processor with a far better gpu. Had I not gotten my note at such a cheap price I would have gotten the tab pro 8.4. That being said I think that if you find a really cheap price on the note 8.0 it's worth it. I'm not disappointed with mine at all. Far as getting an AT&T branded note you'd probably have to sim unlock the device to use it on a Canadian network.
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Are you talking about the tab pro 8.4 or a tab 4 8.0? I really like the 8.4 tab pro. The screen is amazing on it but I'm not going to count my note 8.0 out either as the picture quality has been plenty satisfying to me. The tab pro has the newer faster processor with a far better gpu. Had I not gotten my note at such a cheap price I would have gotten the tab pro 8.4. That being said I think that if you find a really cheap price on the note 8.0 it's worth it. I'm not disappointed with mine at all. Far as getting an AT&T branded note you'd probably have to sim unlock the device to use it on a Canadian network.
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I was referring to the 8.4tab and 8.0 note.
You remind me about my nature, bang for the buck, is probably the biggest factor.
I guess it will come down to which ever one I can save the most on, relatively.
I find when entering the $300+ for a tablet, I get in the zone for I might as well upgrade my laptop instead.
Thanks for the reply.
Not sure about GPS other than it works fine on Wi-Fi.
Video decode in my experience is good, it can generally play most Blu-Ray video fine via MakeMKV (Basically decrypt and remux into Matroska). YMMV with subtitles and audios and third party apps. It's not as powerful as a Snapdragon 800 but very nice (and has more codec support than my Nexus 5 when both are compared at stock).
Can't say anything about USB audio out as I've never dealt with that.
If you only care about HSPA+ service anything supporting 1900 / 850 Mhz will work and as far as I know all cellular ready models support those. I don't know about the LTE bands up there. Unlike us in the USA, Canada pretty much uses the same frequencies for all the carriers.
If you get the AT&T model you will have to get it SIM unlocked by AT&T before hand. I am not sure that can be done from Canada rather than while on AT&T's network as I've never tried it. Typically you have to stick in a SIM from another carrier and enter a code. On T-Mobile with my Galaxy S3 it took a few weeks to get the code via e-mail after supplying my data via phone; YMMV. You would want to SIM unlock before rootinng; bootloader unlock is different than SIM unlock; and custom ROM's don't SIM unlock your device.
If you want 8" and a S-Pen you have no options. Only other alternative would be an Tegra Note 7; I believe they've started making an LTE model but I'm not sure. Personally if you don't want the pen, I'd go with the Galaxy Tab 8.4 Pro because it's got a more powerful processor and a higher resolution panel. If it's all the same to you by all means save money. The Note 8 is likely at it's end of retail life pending a newer version so prices are going down (at least in the USA they have; my fiancee got hers in Alberta last month for $349 and I think they're now $329 here in Georgia).
Feature wise is probably improved MultiWindow mode and anything you like about Samsung's 4.4 tabs that isn't available on 4.1/4.2 era devices like the Note 8. I'm not sure what functionality we're getting in our 4.4 update (AFAIK 3G and Wi-Fi, not AT&T model).
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Not sure about GPS other than it works fine on Wi-Fi.
Video decode in my experience is good, it can generally play most Blu-Ray video fine via MakeMKV (Basically decrypt and remux into Matroska). YMMV with subtitles and audios and third party apps. It's not as powerful as a Snapdragon 800 but very nice (and has more codec support than my Nexus 5 when both are compared at stock).
Can't say anything about USB audio out as I've never dealt with that.
If you only care about HSPA+ service anything supporting 1900 / 850 Mhz will work and as far as I know all cellular ready models support those. I don't know about the LTE bands up there. Unlike us in the USA, Canada pretty much uses the same frequencies for all the carriers.
If you get the AT&T model you will have to get it SIM unlocked by AT&T before hand. I am not sure that can be done from Canada rather than while on AT&T's network as I've never tried it. Typically you have to stick in a SIM from another carrier and enter a code. On T-Mobile with my Galaxy S3 it took a few weeks to get the code via e-mail after supplying my data via phone; YMMV. You would want to SIM unlock before rootinng; bootloader unlock is different than SIM unlock; and custom ROM's don't SIM unlock your device.
If you want 8" and a S-Pen you have no options. Only other alternative would be an Tegra Note 7; I believe they've started making an LTE model but I'm not sure. Personally if you don't want the pen, I'd go with the Galaxy Tab 8.4 Pro because it's got a more powerful processor and a higher resolution panel. If it's all the same to you by all means save money. The Note 8 is likely at it's end of retail life pending a newer version so prices are going down (at least in the USA they have; my fiancee got hers in Alberta last month for $349 and I think they're now $329 here in Georgia).
Feature wise is probably improved MultiWindow mode and anything you like about Samsung's 4.4 tabs that isn't available on 4.1/4.2 era devices like the Note 8. I'm not sure what functionality we're getting in our 4.4 update (AFAIK 3G and Wi-Fi, not AT&T model).
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A funny thing happened to me last night.
For the longest time I was under the impression that NON-RT Windows tablets were quite expensive and quite large. Then I find out that there are 8inch full version windows tablets with decent specs and a reasonable prices.
So in short now i'm after a windows 8 tablet, the lenovo miix 2 and thinkpad 8 being my first choices.
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A funny thing happened to me last night.
For the longest time I was under the impression that NON-RT Windows tablets were quite expensive and quite large. Then I find out that there are 8inch full version windows tablets with decent specs and a reasonable prices.
So in short now i'm after a windows 8 tablet, the lenovo miix 2 and thinkpad 8 being my first choices.
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Venue Pro 8.0 would be my choice.
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Venue Pro 8.0 would be my choice.
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I had one for a day before I returned it.
First of all it has no GPS, so right from the start it got eliminated from my options.
Secondly it's speaker is TERRIBLE, even at full volume It was barley audible in a quite room. With my Air conditioner on i couldn't even listen to a movie. I don;t know if the lenovo has better audio but can't be much worse if anything.
Can the Tab S be used as a stand alone mobile phone if I get the LTE model? If it can then I will sell my Note II and buy the Tab S 8.4.
I do not want to carry around two devices.
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Can the Tab S be used as a stand alone mobile phone if I get the LTE model? If it can then I will sell my Note II and buy the Tab S 8.4.
I do not want to carry around two devices.
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Yes, The LTE version of the Tab S can make and receive calls, SMS and MMS.
Are you sure about that? All the other sources I read says you can only control your phone via an SideSync app.
Which means you will not be able to make any phone calls without the phone.
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Are you sure about that? All the other sources I read says you can only control your phone via an SideSync app.
Which means you will not be able to make any phone calls without the phone.
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I am 100000000000% sure that you can make and receive calls/texts as I own the Lte version of galaxy tab s 8.4 and it's the same as the bigger one... that side sync app is for wifi version as it has no sim support
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I am 100000000000% sure that you can make and receive calls/texts as I own the Lte version of galaxy tab s 8.4 and it's the same as the bigger one... that side sync app is for wifi version as it has no sim support
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Sidesync is available in lte version too. It needs wifi network to work, though.
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I am 100000000000% sure that you can make and receive calls/texts as I own the Lte version of galaxy tab s 8.4 and it's the same as the bigger one... that side sync app is for wifi version as it has no sim support
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can you hold it up to your face or do you have to use a bluetooth device?
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can you hold it up to your face or do you have to use a bluetooth device?
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different strokes for different folks, though you might look stupid putting one to your ears... Bluetooth device or hands free will do fine.
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different strokes for different folks, though you might look stupid putting one to your ears... Bluetooth device or hands free will do fine.
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Whether it look stupid or not, that's my stroke as you said. But the Tab S make phone calls without bluetooth or handsfree?
If you google for Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE, you can see, on the picture, the top of the device is an earpiece speaker. If you put your phone SIM card in, you can use it as a phone, putting it against the side of your face and all. Or you can use Bluetooth headset.
I have the 8.4 LTE, although I have not I have not used it as a phone yet (soon), I can see the icons for making calls and SMS Messaging.
Now for the 10.5 LTE, I do not see the earpiece speaker. Maybe you can still use it as a phone but sound will come out as a loudspeaker.
Samsung already phoned it in with Touchwiz so proof it works
The calling function for the LTE version makes the SGTS an all round Device. BIG is definitely Better.
If I were to use the Tab S 8.4 as a phone, how portable is it? Does it fit into pockets?
Internationally, with the exception of Turkey, all Samsung's 3G and LTE tablets support MMS and phone functions regardless of size (yes, the Pro 12.2 3G/LTE is a phone). They can all be used as speaker phones as well as with wired and BT headsets. The U.S. carriers always disable MMS and the dialer in the tablets they sell which is why U.S. XDA members assume those tablets don't have phone features.
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If I were to use the Tab S 8.4 as a phone, how portable is it? Does it fit into pockets?
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just walk up into a store and feel the size in your hands or you rather get a ruler and cut out 8.4 inches on a cardboard to know how big the tabs can be. if you wear skinny jeans i doubt u can put a tab into your pocket.
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Does it fit into pockets?
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Sure.
too big to be used as a phone!
Wish Samsung would make a 6.5 to 7 inch Note 4.
I'm really considering the international LTE/3G model (SM-T705) and using it to replace my GN3 on T-Mobile. Just concerned about being limited to the 1900MHz band, which is available in my area, just not all that speedy (or widely available elsewhere). I might even jump over to AT&T if it'll work better.
But with the right holster/pouch, I think it's quite doable. I already use a seidio holster (don't like things in my pockets). And I've been rather interested in Mighty Pouch, which looks like a pretty good way to carry around a large tablet while remaining portable and accessible. Already contacted them and they can pretty much make a custom pouch that'll attach to your belt, for just about anything. And probably wouldn't look entirely ridiculous like some solutions I've seen.
We'll see... my GN3 does get the job done. I just like trying different things. Heck, I might even keep both and just switch sim cards depending on where I'm going.
There are three things that's will not make the Tab S inferior to the Note 3.
1. The size is just not portable.
2. The battery is not removable. The Tab S will not have the battery life of the Note and it is not removable meaning you're dead when the battery runs out.
3. No stylus.
Uhm, OK? This is a 7" tablet being used as a phone.
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Uhm, OK? This is a 7" tablet being used as a phone.
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So Tab S 8.4 will cover his face and require two hands to hold?
I love the note 4 but I get one pet peeve. The damn single antenna that prevents me from using the Web when you're on the phone.
This is a major concern for me since I use my phone as part of the home automation. My Gate and Garage is controlled with my phone so if I get to the front of the house and I'm on the phone, I have to get off the phone to get in or get out of the car and use the keypad.
I think this is a MAJOR BS of sprint
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I love the note 4 but I get one pet peeve. The damn single antenna that prevents me from using the Web when you're on the phone.
This is a major concern for me since I use my phone as part of the home automation. My Gate and Garage is controlled with my phone so if I get to the front of the house and I'm on the phone, I have to get off the phone to get in or get out of the car and use the keypad.
I think this is a MAJOR BS of sprint
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It has nothing to do with Antennas..it is the Spark and tri-band that causes this: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spri...andle-calls-and-data-at-the-same-time_id54789
There are ways around this but it would require further tower upgrades from Sprint.
Yup, all spark phone will be like this. The up side is better faster LTE coverage and better battery life since there is only 1 cell radio operating at a time. It will take VOIP (and a new phone since note 4 doesn't support VOIP) before sprint will provide simultaneous voice and data again. So, if you really need simultaneous voice and data no spark for you!
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Yeah its kinda annoying at times... But it's not really a deal breaker. I'll stick with the Note 4. Can't downgrade at this point is how I see it.
I agree. Ofcourse I skipped the note 3 altogether because I wasn't eligible for upgrade at the time it was released and I heard som leaked info about the Note 4 so I decided to wait. I really do miss simultaneous voice & data but I don't talk on my phone for great lengths anyway so it's not that big of a deal to me.
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I agree. Ofcourse I skipped the note 3 altogether because I wasn't eligible for upgrade at the time it was released and I heard som leaked info about the Note 4 so I decided to wait. I really do miss simultaneous voice & data but I don't talk on my phone for great lengths anyway so it's not that big of a deal to me.
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I was looking at the nex 5 last spring ...then the nex 6 rumors started... Glad I waited... Did my due diligence and ended up with this AWESOME machine...
I got a nexus 6. Traded it for my Note 4, plus the guy gave me 50 bucks. So that sweetened the deal for me. Overall I'm very happy with the trade, especially because I have an unlocked bootloader and can put any rom I want on it. So happy beyond belief. I'm sorry to anyone still stuck on their ATT note 4. It was pure boredom for me. Wish everyone on this forum luck, and it was fun while it lasted with you guys!
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I got a nexus 6. Traded it for my Note 4, plus the guy gave me 50 bucks. So that sweetened the deal for me. Overall I'm very happy with the trade, especially because I have an unlocked bootloader and can put any rom I want on it. So happy beyond belief. I'm sorry to anyone still stuck on their ATT note 4. It was pure boredom for me. Wish everyone on this forum luck, and it was fun while it lasted with you guys!
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I feel l ya.
Personally, I won't own a Nexus. I need a top notch camera, and it just falls short.
But between the Note 5 lacking expandable memory, I have chosen to go with the LV V10 (when released) as my next phone, even though I love the Note line. And, of course, AT&T will not ever be in my carrier line again.
This video had some pretty nifty tips to address the battery and expandable memory issues in the note 5 - https://youtu.be/lFyZ5YyAsk4..
Everyone carries a battery pack anyway and I've personally not replaced the battery on note 4 since I bought it last year..
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I'm happy for you. Personally I will never buy another Samsung phone again from AT&T. If they want government contracts that much then go right ahead. I'm going to definitely get new LG V10 when it comes out but hoping that the bootloader isn't locked and that I can at least put in a 128gb micr sd memory card. With Samsung doing what they did to make the S6 more like the Note series it's safe to say that the Galaxy Note series is officially dead. It's crazy how Samsung sacrificed their best selling line of phones for another line of phones that fail every year in sales and customer satisfaction. You would have thought that the Galaxy Note series would've became Samsung's new flagship phone. Wish I still had my Note 3 cause it was rooted but I'm stuck now with the Note 4. LG V10 or an iPhone cause those are my only options.
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This video had some pretty nifty tips to address the battery and expandable memory issues in the note 5 - https://youtu.be/lFyZ5YyAsk4..
Everyone carries a battery pack anyway and I've personally not replaced the battery on note 4 since I bought it last year..
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Couple things.
First, placing your pictures in Google, according to their policy you agree to when you use it, allows them to use any of those pictures for advertisement of their products or services. And they can do so without your permission, since you agree to it by using them to store your pics. Frankly, I'm not too keen on that one.
Also, since I listen to a lot of music, but get songs from different sources, Google Music is not an option since you can't listen to songs through them that was not purchased through them.
Music & pictures/camera are my primary concerns when buying a new phone, and I use a lot of space for them. On my Note 4, I've got a 128gb card with a 32gb phone, and I'm down to 12 gigs on the card and 6 on the phone. But personally, I love having everything I want at my fingertips without using external storage or needing to be around a signal.
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Google Music is not an option since you can't listen to songs through them that was not purchased through them.
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I'm a die hard Google music user. I uploaded my entire music collection to Google. Over 100 gigs total. None of it was purchased through google. I stream it every day from their app without problems.
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I got a nexus 6. Traded it for my Note 4, plus the guy gave me 50 bucks. So that sweetened the deal for me. Overall I'm very happy with the trade, especially because I have an unlocked bootloader and can put any rom I want on it. So happy beyond belief. I'm sorry to anyone still stuck on their ATT note 4. It was pure boredom for me. Wish everyone on this forum luck, and it was fun while it lasted with you guys!
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With 5.1.1 the note 4 is a brand new phone ?, i am actually liking the phone and functionality. It's smooth and just feels good to use. If you haven't updated you need to, update to the 5.1.1 on att totally worth the trouble.
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So, Im with you guys on this... I CANNOT use an unrooted phone. Problem is, I also MUST have a stylus with pin point precision... Can anyone help me out bc I cant find a single device (NO APPLE) that has one besides the note line! I would go back to my Note 2 if the screen wassnt smashed... Are their ANY options for my needs? TIA!
Find a t-mobile version of the Note 4, unlock it and use it on AT&T. It's rootable and flashable.
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Find a t-mobile version of the Note 4, unlock it and use it on AT&T. It's rootable and flashable.
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That's what I am going to do.
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Find a t-mobile version of the Note 4, unlock it and use it on AT&T. It's rootable and flashable.
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Looking at the specs for both, it looks like they're MOSTLY identical...except that AT&T and T-Mo have most, but not all, of the same frequencies for UMTS and LTE bands. Everything seems the same, except:
AT&T
UMTS 900 (Band 8)LTE 2600 (Band 7)T-Mobile
UMTS 1700/2100 (Band 4)LTE 900 (Band 8)LTE 1800 (Band 3)
Are the frequencies that AT&T and T-Mo share, those frequencies that they both use most commonly, and the above frequencies are mostly just for increasing available bandwidth for their respective networks? Or is it possible that either of them might use only the above bands, in some areas?
I have no idea about frequency stuff. All I know is that I've read on here about people getting the t-mobile version specifically because the AT&T version is not rootable.
Frequencies Matter
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I have no idea about frequency stuff. All I know is that I've read on here about people getting the t-mobile version specifically because the AT&T version is not rootable.
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Yes, the frequencies between AT&T and T-Mobile are different and do matter when it comes to data. You will not be able to get access to all towers LTE tech unless the phone has the proper hardware in it. It will limit your 4G usage but you could at least have a rooted phone. You kind of have to pick your poison in that regards.
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Yes, the frequencies between AT&T and T-Mobile are different and do matter when it comes to data. You will not be able to get access to all towers LTE tech unless the phone has the proper hardware in it. It will limit your 4G usage but you could at least have a rooted phone. You kind of have to pick your poison in that regards.
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I hope the other guy sees this, then. I'm not in the market to swap phones. I'm fine on my stock AT&T note 4. This makes sense, though.
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Yes, the frequencies between AT&T and T-Mobile are different and do matter when it comes to data. You will not be able to get access to all towers LTE tech unless the phone has the proper hardware in it. It will limit your 4G usage but you could at least have a rooted phone. You kind of have to pick your poison in that regards.
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Actually, from what I could tell, if pdadb.net and wikipedia have their respective info correct (and current), the only frequencies the T-Mobile version doesn't have, that the AT&T version has, are frequencies that aren't even used by any U.S. carriers. According to pdadb.net, the frequencies the AT&T version can use, that aren't available on the T-Mobile Note 4 are UMTS 900 (Band 8), and LTE 2600 (Band 7). According to this Wikipedia article, the LTE2600 band isn't in use anywhere in the US. It's used in Canada, but I don't anticipate visiting there, or anywhere else outside of the US, any time soon. (There's another article that shows similar info about the UMTS900 band, but that's even less relevant.)
So, it looks like I'm looking for a T-Mobile Note 4, if I can find one for cheap, that's not too scratched up, or anything.
I just gave up on my att note 4. Switched to the T-mobile version.
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Gave my wife the Note 4 cause she broke her Lg G Pro. Had to use my Nexus 4 for a week. I kind of like the small form factor. Any ways..picked up a Lg G3 off ebay for $150 bucks like new. Enjoying custom roms!
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Picked up a T-mobile note 5 on BF and traded an old iPhone for it.. Adios to my note 4 soon!
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nktwister said:
Picked up a T-mobile note 5 on BF and traded an old iPhone for it.. Adios to my note 4 soon!
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What's bf
Namorbrowneyes said:
What's bf
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Black Friday