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Share your power consumption with ambient mode ENABLED?

After far too long of shockingly-bad battery life from the stock Moto 360 with no apps at all installed and power consumption of as much as 8% per hour -- and multiple failures to even get to the end of the day without having to recharge, let alone get multiple days -- I want some feedback from my fellow Moto 360 users:
I DO NOT WANT YOU TO REPLY UNLESS YOU HAVE ALL OF THE FOLLOWING:
* Latest firmware installed
* --> Ambient mode enabled <--
* Auto brightness or brightness level 1 (the lowest)
If you do, please reply noting your typical battery life in hours and/or your typical hourly power consumption. Please also note whether you have Motorola Connect installed, whether you have any other Wear apps installed, whether you have a watch face other than the default, and how much the watch is being used.
My goal here is to get a ballpark for what power consumption should be with Ambient mode enabled. Please, if you do not have Ambient mode enabled, do not reply.

Have you tried rebooting your phone in the morning, before you take the watch off the charger? Before i did that, i was getting about 7% drain per hour, after doing that for the past few days, i've gotten the following: 4.9%, 3.4%, 3.6%.
Currently, i am not using any facer watchfaces, just the Moto Rotate face.

steveliv said:
Have you tried rebooting your phone in the morning, before you take the watch off the charger? Before i did that, i was getting about 7% drain per hour, after doing that for the past few days, i've gotten the following: 4.9%, 3.4%, 3.6%.
Currently, i am not using any facer watchfaces, just the Moto Rotate face.
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Thanks for the tip. Rebooting the phone should have precisely zero effect on the watch's power consumption; I'm pretty certain this is nothing more than placebo effect. I'll give it a try tomorrow though, just to rule another thing out.

Ambient Mode on. Auto Brightness. No Apps. Latest firmware (whatever is latest on 10/13/14).
I get at least 16 hours. I haven't had it go dead yet. 20-30% left by midnight. I think it got down to 10% once?
Moderate use. Music always playing/updating. Texting/emails are the only method I use for communication and it's fairly frequent (a few notifications an hour) and I occasionally ask it stuff. I never use the heart rate monitor.

Ambient/auto bright. Off the charger at 745 am, it is just about 12 hours later and I am at 20%. This is very typical.
I run a few apps including wear mini launcher but nothing crazy. Motoconnect installed on phone as well. All software current.

Ambient on, auto mode.
I wear it from 2 days, yesterday I've had about 15 hrs (7am to 10pm before death). Moderate use, some notifications per hour and about 20min of navigation. Didn't receive calls or used cardio. Stock watchface and some apps installed.

I also got 15 hours from 100% to 2%, with ambient ON. I don't expect much more without a substantial software update on both the phone and watch sides.

I did this yesterday and the watch had used 12% every hour. I constantly shook it to keep the screen on, every time the screen faded out.

My 360's battery life has actually been much better than I expected, even with Ambient Mode On. I've been using it for about a week with ambient mode enabled, brightness at level 3, and I still get about 20 hours. I've got a few Wear apps installed, like Wear Mini Launcher and one or two others. Without ambient mode turned on, I get about 24 hours or so. I expected the battery to be terrible after all the reviews but so far I've lucked out on my 360.

Off the charger at 730 am and dead at 9pm. I love the watch and will suck it up and deal with it but the battery life sucks.

Mine consumes about 4.5-5% per hour with ambient on, medium usage.
Kinda double than I get with ambient off.

No one is running facer, right? My battery life seriously sucks with this app.

I get about 12-15hrs before its completely drain.I have ambient light on auto brightness as well.Couple face watches nothing fancy updated to the latest firmware.

alexdiaz said:
Mine consumes about 4.5-5% per hour with ambient on, medium usage.
Kinda double than I get with ambient off.
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I was off the charger at 745 yesterday and dead at 615 which is my worst day ever. I do get a ton of notifications due to work email. I turned off ambient for today and cannot believe the difference. Ambient mode uses at least 2x the battery vs not having it enabled.
Off the charger at 745, it is now 2 pm and I am at 83%. I didn't expect it to be this drastic of an improvement.
I really like ambient mode, but it is tough to justify when the watch is dead in 12 hrs due to it.

robber said:
I really like ambient mode, but it is tough to justify when the watch is dead in 12 hrs due to it.
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Couldn't agree more. In my opinion, ambient mode is simply not a feature of this watch because it is not usable. And that's with a brand-new battery, too. Two years from now, you'll likely have to recharge twice a day just to get through the day with ambient mode enabled.

I have ambient mode on and use Facer and and I can last a full day from averagely 0830 to sometimes around 0100 in the morning. Lowest I've gotten is to around 4% and that was almost near 0200.
But my stats are from light to moderate use. Didn't use navigation or other apps extensively, just time checking and occasional clearing of notifications.

I find the responses here interesting. Maybe I just have a great model. I admit that I probably have what people would consider light usage (it's a damn watch not a phone!) so take it with a grain of salt I guess. But with ambient mode *ON*, I've been going from about 9-10am to 12am (14-15 hours) and ending the night at 66%! I turn off the watch, and then use it for another day the following day. Today, would have counted as my 3rd day in the row without a charge, but it was at like 25%, so I charged it for about 5-10 mins (not sure what percentage it was at.. probably like 30-32%), and went from around 10am to 4-5pm. So basically 2.25 days or so of battery life with light usage. Oh, I also use a black background, and stock "classic" face which probably contributes to this as well.

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I did a test over 2 days, first one with Ambient Off and second with Ambient On. It was "scientific" as the usage varied slightly (i.e. I used it as and when I needed on that day) and found that on day one at 10pm I still had 20% battery left and on day two when I got home from work at 18:30 I had 15% left and it was dead by 10pm.
With the news Im hearing about the watch being more responsive to wrist movement and turning off I will be using it with Ambient Off. Im satisfied with the battery life - I put my phone on charge every night already, no harm in also doing the watch especially as its so simple.

Google Fit Demolishing battery

I installed Google fit the day it was released and my battery seems to be taking a big hit. I was getting 24ish hours with ambient mode on and now I'm not getting 12. Is anyone else seeing this?

I see no difference with or without Google Fit. Are you constantly syncing?

No. In installing it was the only change before the decrease in battery life. Wear battery stats doesn't show any apps using any battery either. Thinking I'll reset the 360 and see if it clears up.

How the **** do people get 24 hours with ambient on, when I barely get to 16 hours with ambient off and a stock black watch face and nearly zero usage of the watch?? I can't help but think I have a bad device and should return it...

what apps do you have installed? maybe its something else...

thomas333 said:
How the **** do people get 24 hours with ambient on, when I barely get to 16 hours with ambient off and a stock black watch face and nearly zero usage of the watch?? I can't help but think I have a bad device and should return it...
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Well, i get up at 5 am and take my watch off the charger and when i out it back on at 11 it usually has over 30% which I'm assuming would be plenty enough to get me back to 5 am if i tried.

I only have Keep, play music, fit interval timer and wear battery stats installed...

I did see a reduction in battery. I didn't think it was Fit until I saw this post. I'm going to give it a day or two... Might be battery recalibration or something. My battery life isn't bad but before fit and the update I was getting about 40-50% per 12 hours... Give or take 10% depending on the notifications and such.
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mine decreased significantly as well.
I was getting between 4% - 5% drain an hour. Installed Google Fit, drain increased to 10% - 12% per hour.
No apps installed except wear battery stats.

May be you should change location setting..use power saving mode instead of gps
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My battery on the watch is more or less the same but my phone battery has taken a hit for sure .. fit is keeping my phone awake a lot!
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Yeah I noticed this as well. I deleted Fit on my N5 and battery life appears to be better gain.

Ghost_1 said:
I did see a reduction in battery. I didn't think it was Fit until I saw this post. I'm going to give it a day or two... Might be battery recalibration or something. My battery life isn't bad but before fit and the update I was getting about 40-50% per 12 hours... Give or take 10% depending on the notifications and such.
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This is an update: no changes to anything except turning off ambient mode. Ambient mode was on and off throughout the day yesterday because I though that might have been killing the battery. I turned it off during last night's charge cycle to turn the screen off as usual but this time I didn't turn it back on. Normally, leaving on Ambient mode only takes 5-10% in a given day, so I can only assume that either I was moving a lot yesterday or something more sinister was going on.
Still using:
-Nexus 5
-Google FIT, Facer is being used, wear battery, a few other minor apps
-No changes to GPS settings, etc
The watch has been off the charger since 7:30-7:45 (100%) it is now 4:23 (75%) approximately 8 hours @25% , which is closer to my normal battery time. I've been receiving my normal notifications and I haven't even reset my device. Hopefully other people have the same results cause it really sucked last night to have a watch on my arm that didn't even work... lol

i've notice just a small decrease in battery, but not a huge one, i still took off the charger at 6am this morning and still have 51% right now, where as normally i'd have about 65%.

I was at about 55% when I installed the latest Wear update this evening. Three hours later I'm at 16%. Ambient mode off. Gonna keep an eye on it but that Wear update seems to be the culprit for me.

I suspect that the Google Fit is only using phone sensor at the moment and the Fit app is only syncing from the phone and not the otherway round. Checking Heart Rate history on the www.google.com/fit is also not showing anything.
When you check in Google Fit settings in the app, it doesn't show the Moto 360 as an connected device. Not sure if this by design.

How can the heart rate monitor and/or heart activity be turned off completely? I still get these "You've reached your daily goal" messages every single day, sometimes only minutes apart - it gets annoying, quickly. I've switched off all three sections in the settings menu, but it doesn't seem to do the trick.

How I solved my battery consumption

Hello,
I´ve got my ZenWatch 1 week ago and am very happy with this beautiful gadget. But there is/was one thing that disturbed my daily enjoyment:
The battery life.
After a normal 14 hours day the battery dropped from 100% to 10-15%. I use the always on feature and had round about 3-6 notifications per hour. Also I´ve toggled the connection to my phone (OnePlusOne) on all time.
And after 2 days I started trying to get a better battery life without disabling every nice feature (Must have is the always on feature and I need my notifications).
I tracked every full hour the current battery status and changed on a daily basis the configuration and the watch faces to find the best way between battery consumption and a normal usage.
My results are:
The most battery eater is the connection to my phone inclusivly the notifications and watchface-updates like weather etc.
I solved this problem, using Tasker on my phone, enabling BT every hour for 1 minute to let the notifications fly to my watch automatically. That saved 30-50% battery life the day!!!!
Also I do use a watch face supporting the Low-Bit-Feature, which "turns off" black pixels in dimmode. Battery safer! (10%-30%)
Today my setting is this:
Watchface: Watch Face - Minimal & Elegant
BT on every 1 hour for 1 minute to get notifications
Screen is always on
tilt to wake is off
And today after 14 hours normal usage I´ve unbelivable 64% of my battery (never charged!).
I hoped I could help you!
P.s. this was my first thread!

watch comes of the charger at 6am and when it goes back on at around 11pm I'm generally at 35-40% battery. I've got the screen in always on mode with tilt to wake on, and a facer watch face that updates weather. I'd say I get 30-50 notifications in a day so I'm not sure why your battery is so bad

kellybrf said:
watch comes of the charger at 6am and when it goes back on at around 11pm I'm generally at 35-40% battery. I've got the screen in always on mode with tilt to wake on, and a facer watch face that updates weather. I'd say I get 30-50 notifications in a day so I'm not sure why your battery is so bad
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I´m on 5.0.2. And it drains very much without my "hack"....

kellybrf said:
watch comes of the charger at 6am and when it goes back on at around 11pm I'm generally at 35-40% battery. I've got the screen in always on mode with tilt to wake on, and a facer watch face that updates weather. I'd say I get 30-50 notifications in a day so I'm not sure why your battery is so bad
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What watch face do you use?

it's called dual5, I got it from the facer google+ community and modified it to add weather
forgot to add the link: https://plus.google.com/117239413397670731360/posts/BJF6RMJjedX

Mischka20 said:
I solved this problem, using Tasker on my phone, enabling BT every hour for 1 minute to let the notifications fly to my watch automatically.
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The thing that would bug me about that would be the "no connection" icon showing on the watch face most of the time. I don't suppose there's anything you can do to suppress that, is there?
thoots

I have not found a solution for that.
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I've never had issues with battery life. If I wear it all day and leave it off of the charger at night, I will wake up with 25-30% battery power left.

There must have been different batteries used in manufacturing. I've never had great battery life, if I leave the always on, brightness to 3 I can get through the day to about 9 pm before it dies if I don't use it for much of anything else except notifications. Since it's summertime I now leave the screen off, brightness to full so that I can actually see the screen in the sunlight. That usually makes quite a bit of difference.
Too great of a difference between half that says they have great battery life and half that says that theirs is horrible. I think there was a manufacturing flaw. I contacted ASUS and they said that if I was able to get 16 hours out a charge it was good enough.

I don't recall getting 16 since I first got mine...this morning it came off the charger at 3:30am - always on with dim watch maker face that one of our members created but I altered a tad, brightness to a 3. there really isn't much I can do with the watch beside check notifications including text messages (so the Bluetooth off 1min on wouldn't work for me). by this afternoon 2:30pm watch was completely dead and off. also since the latest update it disconnects from my phone frequently and when the watch is disconnected I often get the white screen asking if I want to wait or tap ok because its been disconnected. not as happy as I once was with my watch,

Is 15% lost, normal over 9 hours of sleep?

Hi
I slept with the watch on for 9 hours. It was at 86% when I feel asleep and 66% when I woke up.
Flightmode - On
Ambient Screen - Off
Wake when lifting arm - On
Is this normal? It just seems a lot for me, when the watch is doing 'nothing'. My Samsung Gear 2, barely lose a percentage over a night.
Thanks in advance

I say yes... I loose about 3-4% an hour for normal use

happens.
if I leave my watch ON throughout the night, there will be 10-15% drop by morning.
so I started to charge it fully and turn it OFF before going to bed

so, a watch with 320mah battery lost 20% in 9 hrs.....
so the watch consumed about 2.2% an hour, or about 7.1mah draw an hr.....
thats not bad... consider that 7mah draw is almost nothing since most devices today (phone, tablets, etc) at full speed can easily use about 700-1200mah an hr....

chaco81 said:
so, a watch with 320mah battery lost 20% in 9 hrs.....
so the watch consumed about 2.2% an hour, or about 7.1mah draw an hr.....
thats not bad... consider that 7mah draw is almost nothing since most devices today (phone, tablets, etc) at full speed can easily use about 700-1200mah an hr....
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They always have way more to use battery on.
When my watch is idle, it should ONLY remember time. It was even on flight mode, so no BT searchign.
My Gear 2 have a 300 mah battery and I can easily use it 3-4 days in a row, if not more. As I only use it to check notifications. There is so much on the Moto 360 that is using the battery, that you do not need. There are 3 (most used) ways to wake the screen. Touch, button or lifting arm.
I would be happy to disable the touch, as it uses more battery, as the screen always need to be ready to get touched. Also heard users complain about the HRM going on and off even with Moto and Google fit disabled.

New MOTO 360 - 3 Full Cycle of Charging Battery is Approx 6hrs

I just got my MOTO 360 and the main problem I faced after the slow Update is Battery life.
Its very worst and goes with apps usage it drops 20% battery if used for 5 to 10 min. I was waiting for charge cycles so that the battery life gets stable but today it worked only for 6 Hrs max and the remaining time displayed is absurd like 100% charge 1 hr remaining.
I did reset for like 3 time didn't work.
I have noticed some apps with no name eating battery.
Please let me know if its normal or I need to get is replaced as I have just got it 2 days ago.
Thanks

This is somewhat normal. You have to remember every time you resent your watch everything from your phone will have to sync to your watch again. I find that after a reset battery life is not good for the first day. Also if you have Google Music and are syncing any music to the watch that KILLS the battery down to 50% until all the music is synced. Also if you have Google Fit make sure on your phone you don't have High Accuracy Mode enabled as I have found that will run the GPS more often on the watch and kill the battery much faster.