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I've had my desire since launch and I still love it after a hole year, I've recently attended the London event for the new HTC sensation and thought it was really nice. I still have a year left on my contract but I won't upgrade... the point I'm trying to make is I've decided to root my phone simply for the fact that I can have custom Roms witch will allow me to unlock my phone using the home key rather then the power bottom on the top of phone which is rather annoying and also the new features witch will enhance the usability of my phone. By rooting my phone do I create a security issue which will leave my front door wide open for an attack..?
Any kind of help or suggestion would be much appreciated ..
From my desire.
HCE8 said:
I've had my desire since launch and I still love it after a hole year, I've recently attended the London event for the new HTC sensation and thought it was really nice. I still have a year left on my contract but I won't upgrade... the point I'm trying to make is I've decided to root my phone simply for the fact that I can have custom Roms witch will allow me to unlock my phone using the home key rather then the power bottom on the top of phone which is rather annoying and also the new features witch will enhance the usability of my phone. By rooting my phone do I create a security issue which will leave my front door wide open for an attack..?
Any kind of help or suggestion would be much appreciated ..
From my desire.
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There are only a couple of potential downsides to rooting - firstly you might stuff up your warranty if you have problems with your device (if you can't unroot before you take it for repair) and secondly you might 'brick' your phone during the rooting process if you don't follow the instructions. Both are pretty remote - though not impossible - possibilities, so the risks are very small.
I don't believe you leave yourself any more open from a security point of view by rooting.
If you do decide to root, take a look at the excellent guide in the Desire Development forum. Good luck.
no actually the opposite is true. I beleive the official desire version is still on 2.2
where as they released 2.2.1 and 2.2.2, all of which closed security holes.
by rooting and putting newer firmware on your phone, you actually have more secure software.
Well, your warranty is over.
Although we all know support is gone.
As with security, well, you're no more less now, than if you install a new ROM
New roms generally increase battery life. They also offer you more flexibility to install programs, overcalock the processor, etc. Allow for a different way for the phone to behave.
If you have a wild hair up your ars, I would do this.
1. Make a GOLD CARD. Although it is hit and miss with Desire's, I would do it with your SD, just to be safe.
2. Root your phone. Ok, lots of people use UNRevoked, butt,,, they have issues. There are other ways to Root a desire.
(do not use AlphaRev, unless you want to change the boot image (S-Off) Yeah, I'll get killed for this, but,.....
3. Then do a "backup" of your current system. Nandroid they call it. You can get ROM Manager from the Market, Flash to ClockworkRecovery.
4. GOto Bootloader, Wipe memories, GOto Advanced, and wipe Delvik. Then back a screen and flash your ROM. (Install from SD card). You might also want to download Gapps.zip. You can do that at the same time, after the ROM (need not wipe anything)
DO NOT use ROM Manager to flash the ROM. Power off, hold Vol- then press Power button, to go into the recovery menu.
Least that is the best I can say.
Hello everyone.
I've searched for this and haven't found anything similar to the issue I'm experiencing, so I decided to post a thread.
Some of the videos that are captured on my Desire sometimes stutters. It's not a consistent stuttering (i.e not what I believe to be low FPS). Rather, these videos stutter once every few seconds.
My Desire is still running the stock ROM, with virtually no changes made to phone (except for apps, launchers, etc.). I am left with only 17mb of internal memory though. Could that be the culprit?
I was actually tempted to root my phone because of this problem, which brings me to my next series of questions. I've actually tried reading the threads on rooting and unrooting for the Desire, but I'm not sure they actually address my questions.
1) Because I am unable to identify a ROM that I believe to what I currently have on my phone on Shipped ROMs, I assume I would have to create a gold card to be able to unroot? I believe my phone is branded. (If it helps, I'm from Singapore and my provider is Starhub.)
2) Would it be possible to extract the ROM on my phone and keep it as a backup? Technically, wouldn't this be the RUU that I would need if I wanted to play it extremely safe?
3) If I wanted to send in my phone for warranty purposes, and I have a generic RUU, will HTC really still continue with the repairs? I've read multiple times that they would, but isn't there at least a chance that they wouldn't entertain such requests?
4) How would a factory default factor in into the unrooting process? Would it help at all?
Re: Videos Captured Stutters / Miscellaneous Rooting Questions
Yes the issue with the video stuttering can be with your sd card.
You can try recording video at ISO 800. Do this by switching to camera mode and then change the ISO to 800, then switch back to video mode and it should run smoother.
If that doesn't work, try using a class 4 or faster SD card (Kingston or Sandisk)
1) You dont need to create a goldcard to unroot
2) Just keep the RUU (by downloading it) handy, and backup all your files to your computer
3) If your device is unrooted and stock, then yes HTC would continue repairs
4) A factory reset does not unroot your device
Hope i could help!
My girlfriend owns a Sony Erricson Xperia Arc which I believe is running either 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 Gingerbread. Anyway, it has problems with the internal memory running low, with seemingly no cause. With an abysmal 320MB, it wouldn't be surprising that it would run low because of caches or dead files in the system after a while, but after helping her clear her caches, and after several factory resets, the problem comes back after a week or two. Additionally, there is little to no content on the phone and everything that can be moved to external SD, has been.
So what I'm wanting to try is rooting, to remove some bloat and tweak things a little. But before that, I want to know:
- Is there a known fix for this problem, without root? And how common is the issue?
- What is the most common rooting method for Gingerbread Arcs? Preferably 1-click.
- How do you unlock the bootloader?
- What is/are the easiest ROMS to flash from Gingerbread?
- What recovery is best?
Sorry for all that. Links are appreciated, but any info I can get would be very helpful
There is no quick fix for this,only to have nothing running,especially in the background.To root your phone
search 'doomLord's Easy Rooting Toolkit'(it's on XDA)it's a one click method just what you asked for,this should help you get rid of system apps that are draining your Ram. Please be aware build 4.0.2.a.0.62 cannot be rooted without changing it the 'root' thread will explain this. Unlocking your bootloader is not necessary for you at the moment but once your rooted and learnt a bit more you might want to in future,read the 'sticky's' for a guide. All custom ROM's have there +/-'s and alot claim to have no lag but until you know a bit more stay with a stock ROM (Sony's own.
Sent from my LT18i
H20fluid said:
There is no quick fix for this,only to have nothing running,especially in the background.To root your phone
search 'doomLord's Easy Rooting Toolkit'(it's on XDA)it's a one click method just what you asked for,this should help you get rid of system apps that are draining your Ram. Please be aware build 4.0.2.a.0.62 cannot be rooted without changing it the 'root' thread will explain this. Unlocking your bootloader is not necessary for you at the moment but once your rooted and learnt a bit more you might want to in future,read the 'sticky's' for a guide. All custom ROM's have there +/-'s and alot claim to have no lag but until you know a bit more stay with a stock ROM (Sony's own.
Sent from my LT18i
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Thanks for the response
I had looked at Doomlord's method and found it most viable but I wanted some more opinions. I am not new to modding Android at all, but I am, however, new to the Arc. This is my girlfriend's phone too so I want to be extra careful. Also, it seems to me that you're trying to tell me that the RAM and internal storage are related? I don't think there's an issue with the RAM. The phone seems to run fine other than the fact that storage is getting bogged down somehow and all I can think is there's some stuff going on behind the scenes that only root will take care of.
As for the bootloader, you're right when you say it might not be necessary, but I'd really like to see if I can find a simple, debloated and close to stock ROM. Big changes aren't really welcome... I've been looking at CM7, as I'm a big CyanogenMod fan, but I think the switch to an AOSP look may be too big a leap in this case. I just want to increase the performance while maintaining a very stock feel.
After rooting device you should search on how to make link2sd. This will extend your 320MB to how much you want... and free space will not be a problem anymore
Marmalux said:
After rooting device you should search on how to make link2sd. This will extend your 320MB to how much you want... and free space will not be a problem anymore
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Thank you, I will look into that
Lock screen problem
I tried to upgrade my xperia arc and everything runs smoothly except for my lock screen. everytime my phone goes into sleep mode, i can no longer open it no matter what button I'd press. it just stays on a blank screen. unless i take off the battery then restart it. i have to keep my phone running so as to keep it from going into sleep mode. However, when it is charging, screen locks works perfectly fine. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Please?
Have you tried a factory reset?
Sent from my Motorola RAZR running CyanogenMod 10
Hello all, I have refered to this site many times and now need assistance with my MT3G
First off, thank you zeubea and the rest for all your work. I tried to ask my question in the developers section but...
I hope you see this post and can guide me along.
Background: I'm ok w pc's, have built and repaired/recovered my own for sometime. But this phone stuff is new teritory to me.
I got my slide mebbe 3 yrs ago? But as phones go I have yet to find one that I like as much. The key board captures my hunt n peck thumb style intuitivly. The weight and feel, and size, seems as right as can be, for me. The only thing I disliked was the carrier
I had studied, and studied this site and others trying to learn how to root. This isnt the best phone to learn on huh lol. So after asking several associated at outlet malls (soory, we can't assist you with that type of request) I found a guy at a pc store that confidently said "no problem, we can take care of that for you." Awesome! The price, $120 US. worth it to me.
2 weeks later, my phone was ready. He did great, I will lay out the specs below. But, when I asked if he could now do it again for less having done it once, his reply was " man, that was a @#$&^, I wont do it again, you have the only one that will come from our shop, but I assure you that you wont find anything like it at starbucks..." Wow...
So first, heres what I have, and then my problem..
Build number is: cm_espresso-userdebug 4.0.4 IMM76L
eng.zuebea.20120618.005058 test-keys
Version: 9-20120617-UNOFFICIAL-espresso
That probably tells you alot of where the phone is. In its apps screen I see dev toolsrom manager and superuser, along with several others.
The phone appears to function as described by the others at the same stage ie: the fn key works as long as it is held when using, no keyboard backlight wifi calling f/c's 4 times upon boot up (I LUV that little guy ) Screen keyboard a bit cut off etc...
So my problem: I was not provided a sdcard when I received my phone. Coulda sworn there was an 8 gb in it when I left it, but oh well. I have a new 8 gb sd card, sandisk. but dont know what to do. I dont want to lose the work that went into this phone. But I cant seem to download any apps from the market or play store
ALSO, I dont currently have a sim card, I plan on getting a pay as I go plan when I get this figured out.
I am unsure about the whole partitioning the sd card thing, as well as how to do it, and wether it is done with cwm or what? The guy who did it suggested titanium back up, but again, cant download. ( Yes I do have wifi at home and it connnects and browes internet superbly)
I have formatted the sd card to fat32, and see all sorts of apps running in cache.
I believe that is about it. I know this is a long read, but I wanted to be clear so you could assist. Thank you...
EDIT: I was assured that we did get S off..,.
update
New guy still here, and for all my reading, I dont feel my confidence level has increased any as far as messin with this phone. I kno I can do it once it all makes sense and maybe after a run thru it will seem easy.... "sigh", any input from you who have been there done that will be greatly appreciated.
Since my above post (this makes #2, 8 to go ), heres whats progressed.
I bought a T-Mob pay as you go SIm card and can now call and text with my phone. That much seems to work fine. I have a 8 gb micro sd card installed which was formatted fat 32 on my pc first. Befor I got the sim card, the phone would appear to download apps but they would never actually load, just went thru the motions. Now, with the sim installed, I get this dialog box from google stating several possible reasons that I'm not getting nothing from them at this time. Well I think I know what the problem is, just dont know how to fix it, which brings me to the last bit of update to include. I was able to get a reply from zeubea himself, and tho it was short and sweet, and I appreciate that he took time at all to assist, I am in need of help understanding what to do...
zeubea said:
it is possible you have to reinstall the last version of cm9 for espresso and gapps, with proper wipes of /data /system and dalvik chache an /sdcard partitioning is no necessary for a testing setting. /sdcard partitioning is made with CWM
check in CWM thread in espresso threads or in other more active thread of similar devices as legend, wildfire s or aria.
I am working at ///////////// and this is the help I can give you. Greets.
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So I am guessing its gapps that is preventing me from downloading apps. What I am asking for is a step by baby step proceedure, taking me by my hand and guide me thru all this so I learn without messing up. Please, if anyone can make sense of all this and assist, I'll be the most humble student ever...:angel:
Thank you...
As far as I am aware you don't need to root the phone after its been rooted (unless you flash T-mobile's kernel .. but lets not get ahead of ourselves). Rooting unlocks the phone's admin and allows you to install and uninstall things you wouldn't be able to without admin control. However, rooting does NOT unlock a network locked phone. There are some ways to do this I'm sure, but rooting a phone itself would not automatically unlock it from a network if it was locked to begin with. Now lets assume your phone is both rooted and network unlocked. Now you can install custom ROMS (Operating Systems), etc.
I would highly recommend you download Cyanogenmod over other custom ROMs in terms of stability, ease of use and beginner-user friendly. You can get it here -> link. This guide by the CM team gives full instructions -> link.
Most custom ROMs come without the Google Apps. To download and install apps, you need Google Play Story (previously known as Google Market), though other ways to install exist as well but are slightly more complicated. When you install a custom ROM, in most cases, you also need to install Google Apps AFTER installing the ROM. You do this the same way as installing a ROM, through CWM (Clockwork Mod recovery). Do you know how to do this? Read the guide above for details. Depending on what Android Version you have, you need to download the appropriate gapps (Google Apps) file and flash (i.e install) that after the ROM. This should install Market (or as its now known, Play) on your phone and will let you install apps.
You don't need an SD card to install. But this phone is notorious for its small space. Just turn the phone off (to be safe), take the battery cover off and insert an SD card into the phone. After boot, it should recognise and be able to use your card normally. It will not effect anything and you can move some apps to your SD card to save some space. However, this doesn't save as much as possible and so some users partition the SD card and use Apps or scripts to make the phone use the SD card as an extension of its phone memory and free up space.
I know whats a lot of information but do have a look at the link and then if you have any more questions, ask. Its quite easy to root and you really shouldn't have to pay someone (especially such a high amount) just to root your phone.
I hope I've been helpful. If so, don't forget the Thanks button!
One major problem I have with my Tab S 8.4 is the limited storage. I mainly install games, and they can't move their data to the SD card, nor can I use the SD card with programs like AGS, because of KitKat security limitations. I'm holding off upgrading to Lollipop because the upgrade screen warns me that I'm going to lose at least 950MB of storage (and I know from my Nexus 7 2012 that Lollipop does indeed add quite a bit to storage use).
What I'd like to know is how Lollipop handles the SD card. If I can move game data to it, that would be great, instantly worthy of an upgrade. If the download folder can be moved to the SD card on Lollipop, that would also be quite good. Even if I could only move AGS data to it (without it becoming read only) that would be interesting enough to consider the upgrade.
So I'd love it if someone could tell me from experience whether the SD card is more useful with Lollipop. It's annoying to have a 64GB card that's mostly empty while internal storage is constantly full.
(I hope that someone can help answer me this question. Haven't been able to find someone to answer me this elsewhere, and looks like others on the XDA forum asked this for other devices and didn't get an answer, so I'm not all that hopeful, but I'll be very grateful if I get a good answer. Thanks in advance!)
Root your device and your problem is easily solvable. Without even on lollipop there are still restrictions.
I am running lollipop but not stock, I'm running iron Rom. Which is practically stock without all the bloat, runs great and it shaved at least a gig off the stock Rom.
Thanks for the reply. What does using a custom ROM solve (from what I mentioned above: installing game data on SD card, download directory, SD card access by apps), and is that an expected part of any custom ROM I install (assuming I pick one listed on this site) or would I have to do anything extra or pick a specific ROM?
Like I said Iron Rom is lighter compared to stock so that's an extra internal storage, plus it comes prerooted so you can then give write access to the sd card and install Link2sd.
Thanks. People who already know all the things sometimes don't remember that others have no clue. So thanks a lot for mentioning Link2sd. If I understand correctly, all I need is to root the device and install Link2sd and then I can move apps to the SD card. No need to install a custom ROM for that, right?
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Thanks. People who already know all the things sometimes don't remember that others have no clue. So thanks a lot for mentioning Link2sd. If I understand correctly, all I need is to root the device and install Link2sd and then I can move apps to the SD card. No need to install a custom ROM for that, right?
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That's correct.
Thanks. I'll have to look into how rooting affects my tablet's warranty, but if there's no problem with that then I'd likely go that way.
I would still be interested in knowing whether Lollipop by itself improves anything over KitKat in terms of handling the SD card.
You will lose warranty with root, but if you are kitkat you can try the latest version of kingroot as it won't trip Knox.
Before using Link2sd you need to create an ext2 partition on the sd card.
Look on Google there are plenty of guides how to use link2sd.
I did not know that i will loose 950MB of my tiny 16GB storage when i upgrade to lollipop, is this true? , we not Samsung hauled over the coals in the press a few months ago because of the amount of free storage space left to the user after the system was installed, If i will loose 950mb, that is another reason not to upgrade to lollipop, things just seem to get worse, somebody give me a nudge i must be dreaming or is this a nightmare.
John.
As far as lollipop goes, if you go to Settings>Applications>SD CARD you can see a list of Apps that can be moved to the SD card. Not all apps will be able to be moved. As far as games go, I will have to test that out and get back to you. I have no games installed at the moment. any specific one in mind?
Tinderbox (UK) said:
I did not know that i will loose 950MB of my tiny 16GB storage when i upgrade to lollipop, is this true? , we not Samsung hauled over the coals in the press a few months ago because of the amount of free storage space left to the user after the system was installed, If i will loose 950mb, that is another reason not to upgrade to lollipop, things just seem to get worse, somebody give me a nudge i must be dreaming or is this a nightmare.
John.
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I upgraded to Lollipop last night and there was no warning that I would lose 950MB of storage. There was a warning that I needed at least a couple GB free in storage so that the system could proceed with the update. The U.S. lollipop OTA update itself is about 925.21MB. Other versions will be more or less around that number. Maybe he was mistaken the update size with losing that amount of storage space.
So it only needed`s a couple of gb of free flash space from my 16gb temporarily, while doing the update and then i will get it back, once the update is complete and the temp files are delete, is this what it looks like, I intend to do a reset before and after i upgrade to lollipop whenever we get it in the UK
I just hope lollipop is as stable as kitkat, as i bought my T800 10.5" just before Christmas, and it has never been rebooted or turn off, crashed or anything in 196 Days according to the battery history.
John.
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I upgraded to Lollipop last night and there was no warning that I would lose 950MB of storage. There was a warning that I needed at least a couple GB free in storage so that the system could proceed with the update. The U.S. lollipop OTA update itself is about 925.21MB. Other versions will be more or less around that number. Maybe he was mistaken the update size with losing that amount of storage space.
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