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Hello,
I want to know if my experience is common or not. I had my phone at ~90% and changed it to airplane mode to try and conserve battery while I went snowboarding. Got back to the phone about 7 hours later and it was dead. Plugged it in and turned it on and found out that "NFC Service" took up 80% of my battery for those 5 hours. When I turn NFC off this does not show in the battery log, but I don't want a major potential feature of this phone to be unusable. Anyone else experience NFC destroying their battery?
Thanks.
I am noticing my Galaxy Nexus not lasting as much as my Rezound did, but it had a larger extended battery. I also use Ultimate Juice to enable / disable my internet connection. So with my extended battery + ultimate juice + brightness on 30% or so I still have 29% battery after a full 25 hours. I would just disable NFC because I do not see it in my battery usage. It is only useful for Google Wallet, and wireless charging (correct me if im wrong).
I use the NFC quite frequently during the day by having various profiles set up around my house, and my battery seems to be fine. Are you using a custom rom or kernel? If the NFC battery issues always occur, I would try reflashing your Nexus. Seeing as NFC itself doesn't eat a significant amount of power, I would guess that the Android OS is being kept awake by the process.
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Well I got annoyed and was one day from the end of my return window so I went to Verizon and told them I wanted another phone. They gave in and I just got the new one. Hoping the phone was the problem. I was unrooted with 4.0.2 installed. I don't have a huge need for NFC, but I don't like to think a feature of the phone was completely useless to me when I have seen others who leave it on with no ill effects.
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I hate to be the guy that asks this, but I just want to make sure as from what I understand this is different from phone to phone. From what I understand, Li-Ion batteries, like the GN2's, do not have a memory effect of any kind? And thus all battery calibration rituals and nonsense are entirely pointless for this handset?
The reason I ask is because I wasn't able to charge the device to 100% before use like I was always told to do with new phones. My device was turned on and used until it drained to around 10% at which point it was charged to 100%.
Now, after 2 weeks of use, I feel that my battery is not as good as it should be. I'm barely able to get more that 12 hours. I'd be happy to post some battery graphs in the morning.
One last thing, if I did mess up my battery, or if my battery is messed up or less functional than it should be, would buying a new battery fix all my problems?
Youvare right. All that calibration stuff is nonsense.
I have never charged my phone to full before using and draining the battery and my phone still lasts all day on mostly heavy use.
Could you post your batt stats?
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Today I ran my phone with the "lowest" possible settings, that is lowest brightness, CPU power saving, and no haptic feedback. I did not turn off wifi. Doing this I was able to get a surprising 16 hours, although you can see from the graph that I didn't use my phone as much. Attached I have a screenshot of what it's like with the highest possible settings (no power saving stuff, and brightness all the way up, but no GPS). Sorry I don't have a pic of the percentages for the high settings, I never thought to do that.
What concerns me the most is this: even with the lowest settings, I'm only getting 2 hours screen time. (last pic)
What's interesting is that you would think that if I'm getting such poor screen time, there would be something else using a lot of battery, but there isn't. This led me to believe the problem was with the battery. I discovered a pretty big scratch on my screen the other day, and I have some monthly insurance plan from best buy, so I was thinking of just getting a new one. The longer I wait to get a new one, the harder it will be to set up everything again. lol
I noticed that compared to other GN2s, mine seems to wake up a lot when the screen isn't on. The awake periods tend to correspond with drops in battery and also when I have a poor signal. Could this be caused by my phone trying to look for signal and using battery?
Yes poor signal that results in the phone searching for better 3g/2g will drain the batteey faster.
Can you try using it in airplane mode with wifi only for a day and see how that goes?
Also install Better Battery Stats and after a day or so of normal usage check your partial unlocks to see if a rogue app is preventing deep sleep and sucking your juice.
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Yeah it us definitely your signal playing a role. Also you have a lot of wakelocks showing up
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Dude you have major wakelocks that eat up 80 % of your battery!
Go to application manager and remove all the apps you don't use.
K, I agree with my week signal using battery. I only have 75 apps on my phone and they're all pretty mainstream, no obscure apps. Right now im in school with 86% battery, I'm turning on airplane mode now. I have noticed however that when I clear my ram it closes like 50-60 processes each time. I am always closing my apps, but 50 seems extremely high. im gonna turn on airplane mode and see how that goes...
thanks!
Yes, you do have poor signal but that's not all. You have terrible wakelocks pal. Install BBS and monitor which apps are the culprit. It's not about 75 apps, even 2 or 3 bad apps, which have hidden advertisement going on could suck your battery flat in no time.
So first thing, install BBS. 2h screen on time is horrible!
Btw- If you're on 3G, try to switch to 2G. Difference will be unthinkable.
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Thanks everyone! I'm really loaded with school work, so I don't have a lot of time right now. But long story short, airplane mode saves my battery like crazy. I started school with 86%, turned on airplane mode, and I'm at 79% right now! more later
Is it safe to say I fixed it?
3h screen over 2 days isnt bad right? Perhaps just a bit worse than what others are getting?
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I know there are threads regarding battery life out there, but most are all about usage and screen on time. My Note seems to be on par or at least close as far as screen on time. However, I'm just curious as to what all of you are experiencing as far as standby time. I've gone through the battery life guide and turned off most features I don't use, but the standby time still seems pretty lame. From a full charge, its been 3d 5h on battery with zero screen on time other than checking the battery stats right now, and it's down to 9%. Android OS consumed 57% and Google Play Services 33%.
I know I'm comparing Apple and Oranges here, but my 4th gen iPad I have for work hardly drains at all without use. After a week of standby, the iPad will only drop about 5-10%. I feel like this tablet should be capable of the same, and possibly will be after I root and find a good rom (also don't like to see any Apple product out-perform any android based product). Am I alone here?
Basic setup: Stock Rom (not rooted), Nova Launcher (prime), GPS off, Bluetooth off, reading mode off, multi-window off, screen mirroring off, s pen detection off, all samsung crap off (air view, etc), and others. Basically the only thing on is wifi.
I only have wifi off during standby and it drops 1-2% every 12 hours
You might have a tough time getting people to compare their standby time with yours... most people on this forum either use their tablet for work and if not are too in love with their baby to let it sit there untouched for days on end When I couldn't use mine for 12 hours, it dropped about 3% with WiFi and GPS on
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Yeah it is too hard to not touch it for days on end to test this. Turning off wifi while in sleep mode will help a lot. Go to the Connections tab in settings and hit the hardware menu key, then choose Advanced, and change Keep wifi on during sleep to never. That has helped me a ton. Right now mine is at 2d 7h 40m uptime with 4h screen time and it's at 32%. Even with that setting on, my iPad mini still gets better battery life. I have left it sitting for 2 days before without touching it and found it sitting at 92% battery life with wifi always on. My guess is it's something to do with the OS and iOS is just more efficient. That's why even with weaker hardware it can still outperform android tablets.
Also I'm still running a lot of the things you have turned off. You might want to also try Greenify. It has a non root working mode now, but works best in root. You can also try Wakelock Detector to see what apps are waking your cpu, so you can see what to Greenify. If you root you can also try an app to freeze apps as well like Titanium Backup and Rom Toolbox.
yeah, forgot about greenify. you have to be rooted though an need either the donation version to greenify play services(that's the battery killer) or use titanium to make it a user app to greenify with the free version. it's sad that google is the worst culprit with battery drain on all my devices.
I get 1-2% battery drop every 24hrs of standby. WiFi must be off, it not hard to just pull notification bar down and touch the wifi section off whenever you think you wont use the tablet for a while - takes like 2 seconds.
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I have yet to try my battery life with wifi off, so I think that'll be next. I really don't need it connected while the screen is off, so I'll change that setting first.
I figured it might be difficult to get a good response for this question because I too have a hard time putting the thing down. Was just traveling for work and had it in my bag those 3 and noticed the battery drop. I appreciate all the suggestions and welcome any future ones. In the mean time, I'll be experimenting as well and report back if I find anything causing the drop.
Im seriously considering returning this item. I just bough the moto 360 yesterday and im getting unaceptable battery life. I see people on this forum able to use the watch for a full day and it still got battery while mine is struggling to run for 6 hours straight. Right now my watch has been running for 4 hours and a half and its down to 44%. I have tried every troubleshoot,I have resetted my watch 4 times now,I have cleared the cache of my application and reinstalled the whole thing. I even tried running it without any application installed, completely stock and my battery is still draining like crazy.
Im not using it that much. Right now I have insta weather installed,skymaster skin and wear battery stats and thats about it. I love this watch but i cant deal with this kind of ****. I consider myself pretty good with hardware and new accesories, and I cant believe how much time ive wasted trying to make this thing worked. Is there something to do really?
Try to use for is purpose for notifications if you bought yesterday and do all that things how are you going yo know which is is battery life with a normal use ?
The panel is who use al the battery , if u use ir forma notification you would get a day battery like a phone if you use youre phone for 4 hours you would drain your battery is battery life of your phone of 4 hours ? NO.
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Try to use for is purpose for notifications if you bought yesterday and do all that things how are you going yo know which is is battery life with a normal use ?
The panel is who use al the battery , if u use ir forma notification you would get a day battery like a phone if you use youre phone for 4 hours you would drain your battery is battery life of your phone of 4 hours ? NO.
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I have some difficulty understanding , but from what I can see you are telling me im using my watch to much? this is not the case. I just got back from work, and in 3 hours of work I lost about 30% of battery. this mean that my watch would be dead after 10 hours of small to none-use of my watch. I always see people talk about how theirs can last 18-24hours on average usage, are these people simply lying?
What do you have install ?
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What do you have install ?
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Insta weather
Skymaster clock
wear battery stats
all the rest is stock.
When im looking at the percentage of the usage of each app by google wear app ( nothing is showing with wear battery stats) it shows this
skymaster : 14%
Screen : 14%
Android wear : 9%
unknown Icon : 7%
Idle : 4%
Bluetooth : 3%
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Try unistall Skymaster and instaweather
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Try unistall Skymaster and instaweather
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I already did try like I said, Ive tried running the watch stock and it was still losing battery life. Ive read somewhere that I need to completely empty my battery a couple of time before getting better?
Yes it will get better battery bit is not magicall remember
Lexite said:
I already did try like I said, Ive tried running the watch stock and it was still losing battery life. Ive read somewhere that I need to completely empty my battery a couple of time before getting better?
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Also, as of right now, I keep losing contact with my watch. Bluetooth is fine and everything since I can change the look of my clock and settings.. but from time to time im losing connection with hangout and it do not send the messages to my watch.......
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Yes it will get better battery bit is not magicall remember
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Yea well, I still have 12 days left to try it and see if it gets better, If not im gonna have to return this watch. I need at least 10 hours.. I mean comon this is ridiculous getting 5 to 8 hours per charge.. Im doing 20 hours of heavy usage on my LG g3 right now so the watch would die on me 3 to 4 time by the time my phone die... this is ridiculous
That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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Thanks for the information! Did you meant skymaster pilot watch face? i bough it for like 1$ but it looks like it is the biggest battery drainer
Lexite said:
Thanks for the information! Did you meant skymaster pilot watch face? i bough it for like 1$ but it looks like it is the biggest battery drainer
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Use the new facer app and watchmaker no battery draining problems here.
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FallN said:
That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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One more tip that works well when you don't need to use your watch at night power it down and back on when you wake up and if you don't need notifications from your watch put it in aeroplane mode that turns bluetooth off big drainer when you need it take it out of aeroplane mode I get nearly 3 days use like this.
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That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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Just be aware that theater mode seems to turn off vibrations.
"...If you care about battery life:"? It's good advice, however do you hear yourself? What you are basically saying is "don't use the features, shut it all down and use it only to look at the time (ahem, just get $35 timex if that is the case). That's kinda nuts for a product that is targeted to the general consumer. Motorola (or Lenovo or Google?) have a marginal product here at best. Thats bad because the smartwatch has been with us now for a number of years, the battery should be a lot better - especially at this fairly high price point. How many people have returned the 360 after a few days because the battery life is crap in real world use? I'm going to bet many did, unless they are like us tinkerers, programmers and devs here... Nobody and I mean nobody is going to know to do the the things you have outlined to "save" the battery. Consumers are just going to use it, show it off and load whatever is available on the app store..
I've said it before on these forums and I say it again... We are paying to beta test this watch for Motorola. The battery life is horrific and Motorola know it. It is a "toy" admittedly a cool one at that. But frankly... All of us 1st gen owners who are sticking it out should be getting coupons for a deep discount on gen 2.
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"...If you care about battery life:"? It's good advice, however do you hear yourself? What you are basically saying is "don't use the features, shut it all down and use it only to look at the time (ahem, just get $35 timex if that is the case). That's kinda nuts for a product that is targeted to the general consumer. Samsung have a marginal product here at best. Thats bad because the smartwatch has been with us now for a number of years, the battery should be a lot better - especially at this fairly high price point. How many people have returned the 360 after a few days because the battery life is crap in real world use? I'm going to bet many did, unless they are like us tinkerers, programmers and devs here... Nobody and I mean nobody is going to know to do the the things you have outlined to "save" the battery. Consumers are just going to use it, show it off and load whatever is available on the app store..
I've said it before on these forums and I say it again... We are paying to beta test this watch for Samsung. The battery life is horrific and Samsung know it. It is a "toy" and a cool one at that. But frankly... All of us 1st gen owners who are sticking it out should be getting coupons for a deep discount on gen 2.
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Umm, did you notice that you're in the Motorola Moto 360 forum?
same here i bought it tried to learn or play with the watch all day not all day few hour after it died but i didn't thought it was watch defective or w/e. its my own fault because i turned it on non-stop. i give it a normal usage a day after i bought it pretty much live to 20% on 9 hour on few times changing face theme and showing off to friends lol,, i think this watch will last 15hrs max on any heavy usage. those who said 1 or 2 day they're definitely lying or encouraging people to buy the watch or can be Motorola's hired scum bags
Guys, I am constantly getting at least 40 percent left at the end of my 12 hours day.
Using it for notifications only, as intended, plus some weather checking and replies by voice to incoming messages.
Ambient OFF
Auto brightness ON
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same here i bought it tried to learn or play with the watch all day not all day few hour after it died but i didn't thought it was watch defective or w/e. its my own fault because i turned it on non-stop. i give it a normal usage a day after i bought it pretty much live to 20% on 9 hour on few times changing face theme and showing off to friends lol,, i think this watch will last 15hrs max on any heavy usage. those who said 1 or 2 day they're definitely lying or encouraging people to buy the watch or can be Motorola's hired scum bags
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While that post is pretty much in need of a complete rewrite, I will agree that I have no idea who these people are that are getting 2 days out of there watch on a single charge. I End the day at about 30% which is great, but it would be practically dead by morning if I wouldn't charge it over night.
I use InstaWeather and have no issues on battery life. Have you updated to the latest firmware? I can easily get a full day with plenty of battery life left at the end of the day. I'd return it for a different one. You may have issues. After the first update to 4.4, battery life for everyone went up dramatically.
Hey guys,
Wanted to know what your experiences with battery life were like.
When I go to sleep, I switch off wifi, bluetooth and data. When I woke up after 8 hours, the phone had lost 7%. Seems to be quite a high number for it being dormant.
In battery settings, the 'Phone Idle' option was top of the list for battery drain.
Anyone else experience battery drain here? What have you done to help improve it?
Cheers.
What's your reception like?
Install better battery stats or some wakelock app and see what's keeping your phone awake
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akiwiz said:
Install better battery stats or some wakelock app and see what's keeping your phone awake
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Don't you need root to use better battery stats? Phone hasn't been rooted yet.
Signal strength is decent, not full bars, but close to it.
My last 2 phones (N5 and OPO) have had really good drain whilst dormant, so puzzling as to why this one is playing up!
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Don't you need root to use better battery stats? Phone hasn't been rooted yet.
Signal strength is decent, not full bars, but close to it.
My last 2 phones (N5 and OPO) have had really good drain whilst dormant, so puzzling as to why this one is playing up!
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My vzw was similar. About 10 hours of no use and was down to single digits.
Did a factory reset and it was better... Teach it who's boss...
Last night my phone was off the charger, at 100% to begin with, at around 2 am. I checked it at 6 am and I was still at 100%. For me, idle power usage has been very low.
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ahsengah said:
Don't you need root to use better battery stats? Phone hasn't been rooted yet.
Signal strength is decent, not full bars, but close to it.
My last 2 phones (N5 and OPO) have had really good drain whilst dormant, so puzzling as to why this one is playing up!
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Ya you need root. Goto WiFi settings then advanced and see if the 2nd option is on, (its something like apps scan for network even if its off) turn that off. If you want to stop Google play services from waking phone from privacy guard that helps a lot too.
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My vzw was similar. About 10 hours of no use and was down to single digits.
Did a factory reset and it was better... Teach it who's boss...
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Thanks guys. I will try give it a factory reset tonight to see how it goes. Will provide feedback once I've done this.
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Thanks guys. I will try give it a factory reset tonight to see how it goes. Will provide feedback once I've done this.
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The other thing I did (not sure if it is related) was to disable all the VZW apps and processes. WHen I did that I only lost 13% when left over night and I was down to a respectable 73% after a full day of work (though I intentionally did not use my phone much during that time)
This phone sleeps unbelievably well, better than any other phone I've owned. It flatlines very nicely
I did not manage to factory reset the phone overnight, but I did notice that the battery life whilst sleeping was incredible.
Over an 8 hour sleep, I had dropped 2% battery life. I switch data and wifi off when I go to bed. Now I'll keep an eye on SOT. Hoping to hit the 4hr mark. On my first few days, I got 2.5 hrs.
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Hey guys,
Wanted to know what your experiences with battery life were like.
When I go to sleep, I switch off wifi, bluetooth and data. When I woke up after 8 hours, the phone had lost 7%. Seems to be quite a high number for it being dormant.
In battery settings, the 'Phone Idle' option was top of the list for battery drain.
Anyone else experience battery drain here? What have you done to help improve it?
Cheers.
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Even I Am experiencing same problem. Any one plz help
I have the International H815 and I have the same problem. Battery drains too much on idle. When I look the battery stats the Doze mode rarely kick ins. Location is off Bluetooth off and I'm on wifi. When Doze works I have really good battery and I can hit 4h of SoT when not I can barely hit 2.5h of SoT. This must be some kind of bug. Phone does not goes to sleep and Doze rarely kicks in.