Just got the Moto 360 :( - Moto 360

OK just got my new Moto 360. Boy what a disappointment. What the heck is that black bar on the bottom that takes up 10% of the screen and cuts off the watch face? That is really really lame. Funny thing is, in all the promo shots for the Moto 360 that black bar is no where to be seen, they show a full watch face with nothing interfering with it. This is a totally deal breaker for me. Why on earth would they do this? Apple's Iwatch does not have that. Is their any way to get rid of it. If I had known this before hand I would have never bought that 360.

falcon26 said:
OK just got my new Moto 360. Boy what a disappointment. What the heck is that black bar on the bottom that takes up 10% of the screen and cuts off the watch face? That is really really lame. Funny thing is, in all the promo shots for the Moto 360 that black bar is no where to be seen, they show a full watch face with nothing interfering with it. This is a totally deal breaker for me. Why on earth would they do this? Apple's Iwatch does not have that. Is their any way to get rid of it. If I had known this before hand I would have never bought that 360.
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Pretty much every image of the watch that I've seen shows it. A lot of faces and apps hide it pretty well. It's well known.
https://www.google.com/search?q=mot...LMKmNqTDgugE&ved=0CAoQ_AUoBA&biw=1367&bih=754
BTW My 360 is arriving today or tomorrow via FedEx. For $119 I couldn't pass it up

That is what I paid as well, but I will be returning it though. That black bar totally ruins the experience for me......

It really isn't that bad after you get accustomed to it.
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I don't even notice it now. And you should've done more research before making a purchase.
That's where all the sensors go---which is why there are barely any bezels. I'll take that trade off any day of the week.

It's not a big deal about the 10% and it has always been visible when I saw ads or pictures. Get over it. However....DO.NOT.TAKE.THE.OTA update to 5.1.1 or you may be sorry. You may then have a paper weight.

falcon26 said:
OK just got my new Moto 360. Boy what a disappointment. What the heck is that black bar on the bottom that takes up 10% of the screen and cuts off the watch face? That is really really lame. Funny thing is, in all the promo shots for the Moto 360 that black bar is no where to be seen, they show a full watch face with nothing interfering with it. This is a totally deal breaker for me. Why on earth would they do this? Apple's Iwatch does not have that. Is their any way to get rid of it. If I had known this before hand I would have never bought that 360.
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You're right, the Apple watch doesn't have a black bar on the bottom. It has 4 black bars covering up about 40% of the entire front of the watch. I think I prefer the small bar on the bottom and be able to see the watch face, then look at Apple's tiny screen and a huge amount of bezel on an ugly square watch.
That said, you obviously didn't do much looking on the web for Moto 360 images or reviews or G+ posts or Instagram photos or ....

Flat Tire
If you had come up with this after preordering the watch, it would have been a disappointment really!
but the 360 came nearly an year back and you didn't even have a clear view at any picture or review??
Its never visible on dark dials anyway and that's why its called Flat Tire

Download "little worlds" watch face.
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Where did you find it for $119?
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thebestiam said:
Where did you find it for $119?
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Motorola had a coupon code last Thursday morning for $30 off. It was only available for a few hours. I stumbled on it checking out spoofee.com that morning.

If you complain about the bar, the battery life will be another "deal breaker" , was skeptical abot to get this watch or not and after viewing reviews from youtube took the leap of faith and now i can tell you that i love this watch.

henderjr said:
Motorola had a coupon code last Thursday morning for $30 off. It was only available for a few hours. I stumbled on it checking out spoofee.com that morning.
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That's close to what I paid, and IMO it's about right. Imagine how you would have felt if you paid $250 a year ago and were surprised by the "flat tire".
For $120 you get to experience Android Wear in all of it's half-*ssed glory, but on a watch that I believe is by far the best looking one on the market. Seriously, I've received more comments about this watch than any other watch I've ever had. And it's from people who have no idea it's a smart watch.

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How noticible is the Moto 360?

Even though I got the black version, I was expecting my family to notice my watch the day I got it, but it took a whole week before someone said anything and even then it was my boss! Strangely that same night my mom finally noticed too lol
So when did you get your first person to go "Oh what watch is that?"
I bet the stainless gets noticed a lot quicker than the black!
C'mon. Quit trying to be vapid
That's for iPhone users.
Android users just live in silence
they asked if it was the apple watch lol....
i think the beauty of the device is that it is not noticeable....
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i think the beauty of the device is that it is not noticeable....
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Yeah the first day I was super self-conscious trying not to show off my arm, but after a day or two I realized people just think it's a regular watch! Well the black one anyway, I might have got more attention with the stainless one, it looks like every stainless got noticed on the very first day!
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they asked if it was the apple watch lol....
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I got that from a waitress, I made sure to say "nah the apple one is square"
got it on friday and saw people till sunday and monday
I was having a conversation with someone, when my brand new Moto 360 (Stainless) lit up to show that I'd received an email. That immediately grabbed the other person's attention, and from that moment on, the watch was the conversation.
When it's just sitting on my wrist, it gets very little attention as people just assume it's a regular watch without looking too closely. When I actually start using it though, I invariably get questions or comments.
Different reactions for me. Everyone seem to noticed and complemented. Maybe its my kickass steel band. =)
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I might have got more attention with the stainless one, it looks like every stainless got noticed on the very first day!
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Thus far, nobody has noticed / commented on the stainless one I have, and it hasn't been covered with long-sleeved shirts or anything, either.
No one really has noticed my stainless 360. I also put the pebble steel watch band on it.
I was expecting the same reactions like "what watch is that" all the time.
Only time I had someone say/ask something was when i was using it to read a text about what someone wanted to order at a restaurant. Cashier asked "what watch is that? Ive seen it at Best Buy but never have seen anyone with it"
I think you'd get more looks and comments if it were square. The 360 is more elegant and fits right in being a watch.
I've been asked 5 times if it's an Apple Watch. When I explain what it is and what it does they're very impressed and the Apple Watch talk stops!
I was asked if it was the I-watch twice. Shows you how much Apple has a hold of the general public.
im not a big watch wearer, so it was noticeable the first day.
I get more attention with the Moto 360 than with my $3k Movado Tungsten watch. Not really sure how that happened.
The silver one is definitely more noticeable. Black one seems like any other watch until it turns on.
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I have gotten the iwatch comment all the time. Some think my watch is broken because of the black screen.
I have the stainless steel version and had the super engineer band on it. But I have not gotten any comments with my leather band.
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Stainless, leather band.
A friend was puzzle when he saw a display off and wondered how I tell the time. I simply raised my arm and showed him. >.<
No public comments yet as I have mostly been wearing long sleeved shirts.
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Even though I got the black version, I was expecting my family to notice my watch the day I got it, but it took a whole week before someone said anything and even then it was my boss! Strangely that same night my mom finally noticed too lol
So when did you get your first person to go "Oh what watch is that?"
I bet the stainless gets noticed a lot quicker than the black!
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The poll results tell you everything you need to know
I've had mine (stainless) for a week now and so far not one person has asked about it, including at a 4 hour birthday party. I think most people assume it's a regular watch when I'm out, and at work, people probably already know what it is but are too awkward to ask about it (I'm a software engineer).

Banding on gray screen (stripes pattern)

Hi Guys,
Just got my Huawei watch and since I´ve powered it on for the first time I am noticing a weird pattern of stripes on gray screens, on the settings menu for instance (a XDA member told me that's called banding). It´s hard to capture this on camera, but I am posting some pictures so you can see what I am talking about. Have anyone noticed something like that? Is this a problem or it´s nothing and I am overreacting? I couldn´t find any reports on this and this is not (as far as I know) related to the red tint issue.
On an unrelated matter, I also find the crown to be a little wobbly, and not very satisfying to press (it doesn’t make a good clicking sound). Is it supposed to be like this?
I appreciate your help.
Banding. Mine has none at all...I was actually looking for it when I first got the watch.
My button has a little play, but it clicks just fine.
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I don't have that on mine but if it's bad I would exchange it. My button is rock solid and the screen is flawless so I'm glad I received a good one. I don't recommend things unless I know they are good and I like my watch from experience. Its been 3 weeks now and I love it the same as the first time I opened it.
Thank you for the reply!
I didn't know the technical term, thanks. I am going to edit the thread to use the right terminology.
Why did you look for banding? Why were you expecting this problem?
Should I return my watch? It's not so easy for me because I don't live in the US, so I would have to pay international shipping and I would not be able to buy a new one.
Caio 73 said:
Thank you for the reply!
I didn't know the technical term, thanks. I am going to edit the thread to use the right terminology.
Why did you look for banding? Why were you expecting this problem?
Should I return my watch? It's not so easy for me because I don't live in the US, so I would have to pay international shipping and I would not be able to buy a new one.
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Just one of the things I check when getting a new device.
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Is it a big deal? Can it get worse over time? Cause if it stays the way it is I can deal with it, specially because how hard it is for me to return it.
The first one I picked up had noticeable banding (a little less than yours), so I decided to pick up another one. The second one was worse. I fear it may just be the nature of the technology and I don't have the time and energy to keep gambling for a better unit.
At this point I'm undecided if I'm going to keep the watch. It's a shame as it is a really nice looking device.
Btw - both watches had wobbly buttons, but that isn't really too bothersome.
Thank you very much for your reply! You are the first other person to report this issue. I was starting to think that I had terrible luck with that unit.
Well, mine went back to Amazon. And since I don't live in the US, it's hard for me to try again (have to wait for a friend to go there). And even if I had a second chance, I am not willing to take the risk of getting another bad watch. At this point I am very much considering the new Moto 360. It's got its flaws, but at least it doesn't have such wide spread issues.
Would you consider returning yours and trying the 360? If not, why's that? I would like to learn your opinion.
Thank you again!
Not a problem! I also considered the 2015 Moto 360 (42mm), but decided on the Huawei Watch. The Moto 360 is a very stylish watch and Moto Maker is downright awesome. However, the 2 reasons I chose the Huawei Watch are the reportedly bad dim mode and the "flat tire". I enjoy using WatchMaker to create watch faces and I'd rather not have to design around the flat tire. A friend of mine has the previous Moto 360 and doesn't mind it, though. I think it's more of a subjective issue.
I'm doing my best to get used to the banding and I think that it is only noticeable in straight gray environments (though that includes settings). I have a feeling that I'll notice it less and less over time, but your watch had worse issues than mine and I'm sorry about that.
Yeah, mine was very noticeable.
Do you think I should try a new one? How confident are you that the HW is going to hold up over time?
Do you think that the Moto 360 has a better chance of lasting longer? (no burn in, can charge the battery easily without having to buy a proprietary charger to carry around)?
I would appreciate your opinion.
I know this is a pretty old thread but I didn't want to start a new one for a similar issue. I got my watch today and I notice banding on my display as well. It's mostly visible with solid colors. I'm debating exchanging it with Huawei (I bought it direct through them). I'm trying to determine if this is normal or a defect
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I know this is a pretty old thread but I didn't want to start a new one for a similar issue. I got my watch today and I notice banding on my display as well. It's mostly visible with solid colors. I'm debating exchanging it with Huawei (I bought it direct through them). I'm trying to determine if this is normal or a defect
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I can say for my watch, I have no banding like what you show in the pictures.
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I am sorry to hear about your problem.
My watch had different banding. It was more noticeable in gray screens. It didn't have any banding in solid colors. I ended up returning mine. If it's easy for you I would exchange it. Good luck

Help for the first time (pun?) buyer

Hi all,
I've recently come back into the android fold and I'm currently using the Nexus 6P (fantastic phone btw) and now I'm branching out to other android devices.
I've always wanted a smart watch and I feel now is the time to dive in. After a lot of research that's left me with two options and I'm torn between the Moto 360 (46mm) and the Huawei watch. I've read countless reviews and they both have their pro's and con's, such as cost, display, battery, looks, functionality and I've read into the issues surrounding the charging cradles which only makes my decision more difficult.
I'm all for customization and can spend hours on XDA reading and trying tings regarding my phone and android in general which made me take note of in terms of support and activity the Moto 360 has a lot more attention on XDA, I appreciate that this is most likely due to the Moto 360 being more main stream and has been out for longer, not to mention the V1 lead the charge for android wear but user support is very important to me.
At the moment I'm not sure how I feel about the flat tyre which appears to most of the gripes for the 360 however on investigation several watches faces appear to have overcome this issue to some extent and many users after some time appear to have forgotten all about it, plus it does serve some practicality with the ambient display so it's not all bad.
Any thoughts? Pro's and con's? Have you owned both watches or come from the 360?
Hua Wei watch has sapphire crystal. Enough said.
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Sounds like you want moto 360. Both are great. Huawei watch much more nicer and more classy expensive looking. Moto has it in bigger size as well, so if u like bigger watch faces then you need moto.
I personally love my black Huawei. It is worth every penny. I could care less about customization and user support forums. I buy technology to help me save time in my busy life. I don't have time nor the interest to be reinventing android wear on my watch.
Sapphire
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Hua Wei watch has sapphire crystal. Enough said.
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Bingo! Can't say enough about the durability of this watch also. Only wish it were more water proof.
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I don't believe the moto has a speaker either.....does it? Plus have you seen the display on the moto in ambient mode? Holy s...! It's completely pixilated. When I'm inside the house,office,mall, anywhere other than outside,the huawei ambient mode is easily visible, and completely crystal clear. No pixelation. The watches are in these ambient modes most of the time,especially if you have tilt to wake off like me. Please watch videos on you tube comparing this ambient mode with the moto.....its so nasty and ghetto looking.
My decision came down to the fact that the Moto 360 had a flat tire. I wanted a fully circular watch. I think the biggest downside to the Huawei Watch is the horrible charging mechanism. It's a pain to work with especially when I have to quickly charge my watch using a portable charger and throw it in my bag.
Hi all,
After much consideration I ended up ordering the 46mm Moto 360. It basically came down to price at the end of the day. The Huawei watch is £329 with the standard leather strap, I was able to order via a discount code a 46mm Moto 360 with a 22mm metal band and a micro Knurl Bezel for £280. Both are added extras above the standard Moto 360.
I may come back to the Huawei watch as I'm still concerned about the flat tyre and pixel density, however given the extras, screen size and the cost I felt it was too good of an option to let go.
Thanks for all the advice above!
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My decision came down to the fact that the Moto 360 had a flat tire. I wanted a fully circular watch. I think the biggest downside to the Huawei Watch is the horrible charging mechanism. It's a pain to work with especially when I have to quickly charge my watch using a portable charger and throw it in my bag.
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I am surprised about the dislikes of the HW charging mechanism. I own both HW and Gear S2 Classic. I see no advantage or disadvantage of either charging means. I hold the HW just above the dock and it snaps in place - nothing difficult. Even when using a portable charger in my bag, while hardly ever needed though, the HW stays connected to the dock. Same with the Gear S2. It is also easy to put gear on dock as it snaps on, but I am not especially pleased that there are no connector pins. I just don't care....
I haven't checked yet if Gear S2 remains docked in my bag. I think the HW is better locked though.
tinker_tf said:
Hi all,
After much consideration I ended up ordering the 46mm Moto 360. It basically came down to price at the end of the day. The Huawei watch is £329 with the standard leather strap, I was able to order via a discount code a 46mm Moto 360 with a 22mm metal band and a micro Knurl Bezel for £280. Both are added extras above the standard Moto 360.
I may come back to the Huawei watch as I'm still concerned about the flat tyre and pixel density, however given the extras, screen size and the cost I felt it was too good of an option to let go.
Thanks for all the advice above!
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Actually I only paid £289 on Amazon for the black leather strap. I then bought a brown leather, a stainless steel band and mesh band on Amazon, pretty much identical to the originals and spent about £320 in total. Not bad for the watch and 4 straps!
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I got a pretty good price on my Huawei Watch a week ago. I live in EU but ordered from USA. Even with import tax and 2 day delivery it was still cheaper than anything in the rest of the world (and I checked). It ended up costing $427/£290/€390.
I ordered silver with leather band which I am not a fan of but mesh is already on the way. Hopefully it doesn't look too feminine.
I did get stupid USA charger which is useless in Sweden, but I have a converter at home (and it costs anyway like $5) so it's all good.
This is the watch I bought, although mine was cheaper at time. $310 or so, probably some Christmas price cut:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013LKLIB0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I decided to order both!, I ordered the Huawei watch through Amazon at £329 with the metal strap. I felt safer in the knowledge the strap is made for the watch and comes under the same warranty with Amazon, plus Amazon are so good with returns I thought why not?
I haven't played with it too much yet as I am *still* awaiting on the moto 360. They've had the order since the 27th December but they've yet to dispatch it despite the order page saying it's ready to go.
First thoughts are - The presentation on this product is fantastic, it felt like I just bought an expensive piece of kit (technically I did?) The box, the decorating, the presentation was all very well done. It felt like a first class way of putting their device on display and for the first time in a long time, I spent so much time admiring the detail and effort that must of went into making this. However, whilst it is incredibly fancy I couldn't help but feel that once my excitement wore off, that this poor box will go into storage never to be seen and ideally with that in mind, would have liked the box it shipped in to be less deluxe so that the overall watch price would have been reduced.
The watch face feels small, which is odd as I don't even have anything to compare it to, I haven't worn a watch in months and like I said the 360 isn't here, but yet the screen feels small. The watch feels premium, screen is clear and crisp. Battery life seems better then I was expecting but again, I haven't dabbled with it too much just encase I return it.
The charging base seems a pain and could have been done better I feel. Why not have Qi charging? Or at least a decent stand? On that note, why not put that fantastic presentation box I mentioned to use and have that be part of the charging cycle.
The watch appears to be laggy, it doesn't seem fluid between the cards, or getting into the menus. Again I haven't set this watch up or spent that much time getting to know my way round it, plus with it being fairly new firmware updates should iron this out.
Overall I am happy with the watch, the box, the style, the feel and even the screen despite me thinking that it's kinda small. It's a lot of tech under a watch screen which is nothing short of amazing. However the cost of £329 is hard to swallow, I may return it for the leather strap one at £289 or may return it in favour of the 360 (if it ever gets here!)
I have used several watches. The Hauwei does lag some. I notice it more going into settings, it takes a second to open. Sometimes I think I missed a tap, but a second tap makes it go haywire. The hardware is identical to other watches that are smooth as butter, so it has to be a software setting. Perhaps they have the min cpu speed to slow or something. I dunno. It could be ironed out with an update or custom kernel.
The charging dock is kind of a pain compared to others. My LG G Watch has the same setup except the dock had a contoured lip around so it would slide into place with ease. It was also square = easier to align. The circle hauwei, when I dock, I have to semi spin it until it latches in. Even my ZenWatch2 just had a small magnetic clip and would snap on almost automatically.
The Hauwei is small. For me thats great because I am a smaller dude. My LG and Asus were big. The ZenWatch2 was good because of the curved screen. But my friends always called it my iPad Mini Watch.
The Motorola 360 has nice features but lacks a very important one; no speaker. And trust me, it is very important.
Heres why:
A watch is designed to give you personal freedom away from your phone. So I tend to not cling to it as much. It gets left on my desk, couch, charger, etc. When a call comes in... you find yourself scrambling to get to your phone. You typically do not have time to grab it and answer it, without some sort of awkward silence where you answered it from the watch and still in the process of grabbing the watch. Also when I am oncall for work, and in my pool swimming, I can dismiss unimportant emails and grab calls without having to kill myself trying to get out, dry off, and answer it before it goes to VM.
Food for thought. The speaker support was what I was waiting on to upgrade my LG G Watch. If you are going for just a cheap round smart watch, just buy the Moto 360 1st gen. I don't see the difference between them. Still has the flat tire and ****ty battery life.

Should I get a Moto 360 1st Gen?

Hello,
I've seen some reviews but those were when the watch costed 250$ and that was a long time ago. I'm not 100% sold on the smartwatch idea. Could you guys convince me to buy this watch, give me the pros and the cons... The price I have for this watch, refurbished, is around 85$ + 29$ shipping.
Thanks,
Best regards,
Sincerely yours,
Isac
You should pay a bit more and get the 2nd generation. This one is not going to get the update out later this year.
Although I'm happy with mine, battery lasts all day and I like notifications, controlling music and like secure Bluetooth feature to unlock phone.
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I wouldn't buy it. No more updates is already confirmed. The other watches on the market aren't as good. The 2nd gen and sport from motorola are not as good looking but are better. However, Motorola is basically lenovo now and the guy who made some of their best designs (moto x, 1st moto 360) just quit so their quality will go down. If I were you I'd wait for the upcoming watches. The urbane LTE is awesome and far and away the best watch on the market but is godawful ugly. I'd wait for someone to build a watch with a sim card like that so it can replace your phone when needed but look better than that.
I'm really happy with mine, picked it up for £100 (stainless steel version), the battery life isn't brilliant but I pop it on the charger every night anyway. Mainly used for notifications, HRT monitor, and Endomondo.
Leontin2001 said:
Hello,
I've seen some reviews but those were when the watch costed 250$ and that was a long time ago. I'm not 100% sold on the smartwatch idea. Could you guys convince me to buy this watch, give me the pros and the cons... The price I have for this watch, refurbished, is around 85$ + 29$ shipping.
Thanks,
Best regards,
Sincerely yours,
Isac
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I paid just under £80 for mine with the leather strap (didn't fancy the metal strap catching hairs on my wrist or the look). I've got a pebble and thought it'd be handy having them both, with this one for good wear and the pebble for not so good wear. The battery lasts about 16 hours before it drops to 20%, which was a bit of shock after several days with the pebble, to the extent where I thought of returning it but I'm ok with it now. Given what I paid for it, I'm not bothered about the 2nd gen and what it might have, as the gen 1 still looks great and does everything I need it to - such as give me the time, date, weather, notifications, heart rate, play music, along with things I've yet to find out about... I should imagine. Not overly impressed by the colour screen, as its not any clearer than the pebble, but will serve its purpose where the pebble may not look quite right. So, in conclusion, I'd say get it.

who has the watch?

Like the title says, has anyone even preorded and received this watch?
I picked the only one I could find in a Florida bby today, haven’t opened it yet.
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I picked the only one I could find in a Florida bby today, haven’t opened it yet.
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Let me know what you think of it when you get a chance
So far I love the style. Will check battery life today.
Just got mine. I don't understand all the haters. I actually really like this one. Of course no nfc, heart rate or speaker but I never used a watch for them anyways
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Just got mine. I don't understand all the haters. I actually really like this one. Of course no nfc, heart rate or speaker but I never used a watch for them anyways
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Exactly my thoughts, it's my daily driver. It's just to good looking to not wear
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Exactly my thoughts, it's my daily driver. It's just to good looking to not wear
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lol I agree .
I bought leather and metal straps for mine and now use this watch whenever I am dressing formally or for events only.
Received this morning from Slovakia, bought on ebay for 150€ New in the box. The Guy seem have many W7 to sell.....
I love the look of this watch. Just to see how is the battery life ? no good review see for this watch
I am a bit late but I received mine today. I am so happy!!!
Haven't ordered yet but yes interested
Miranda
Recently bought such a son. There are no claims for quality. We can easily contact him
Not currently on my list...
Is it worth buying or no?
Nice but bad battery life. Only if you do not want play a lot with the watch.
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Is it worth buying or no?
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The watch is 2 yrs old, and officially discontinued.
I have had this watch since its release, and I really like this watch, still use it, though not as my main watch for one reason I will mention below later. I mainly wear it when am going to events as my other watch is just too casual-looking. I have tried a few different bands with it and it looks great with all of them. Now on to the issues with the watch:
- No heart-rate sensor. Might be a bummer if you want to use it for fitness-tracking.
- No updates anymore, since it's discontinued. Last major OS version update was to Android Oreo.
- BIGGEST PROBLEM: Battery life is extremely short when it is fully on, I am only able to squeeze out just under a day with a single charge. I don't even have any extra apps on it which could be blamed. I do have the always on display enabled all the time though. There is a mode where the 'smart' watch is off, just the analog hands are working, and in that mode it can run for months on a single charge, but that defeats the purpose of a smartwatch for many. Now this is the reason I don't use it as my main watch. My other Huawei watch, much more loaded with apps and with a heart-rate sensor is able to survive 2 days on full charge.
- Analog hands might annoy some people, as it does get in the way when viewing a lot of notifications. I don't use it as my main watch so I am not bothered with it.
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- Oh, and also, it does not have NFC, so no touchless payment in the era when we need it the most.

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