Sony Smartwatch 3 Water Ingress - Sony Smartwatch 3

Hi folks,
I've got an issue with my Sony Smartwatch 3 and just wanted some advice on what to do.
Basically, I switched my SSW3 on earlier and after a few minutes I noticed that the screen kept lighting up, then going off.
I decided to reboot the watch, thinking that a rogue app was causing the problem. However, when I tried to do that the screen wasn't responding very well, so I held the side button to restart instead.
Whilst doing this I noticed some condensation on the inside of the ambient light sensor above the screen. My guess is that this moisture is triggering the display and causing the issues, however, I now realise that the bottom half of the screen doesn't appear to be responding to touch input at all, which is why I can't fully drag down the top menu or press the off button when it's on the screen.
I spoke to Sony chat support earlier about this, but they make no guarantees that it'll be covered by warranty, and even charge around GBP 15 just to return the watch if they decided it wasn't covered by warranty!
The most frustrating thing about this is that the watch is supposed to be fully waterproof and submersible, yet I've never submerged it or even gotten it very wet. The wettest it gets is from the odd splash when washing my hands. I never shower, bathe, or swim with it on, and don't recall it ever getting wet, other than the odd drop of water from hand washing.
Sony say it'll be covered by warranty if it's found to be a manufacturing defect that has led to the issue, but I still don't trust them to repair it under warranty. The watch is completely physically undamaged, so I don't see how they could blame me, but a relative of mine once sent their Sony Ericsson phone to be repaired under warranty (brand new phone) because the camera cover didn't automatically activate the camera, and even back then they were told it wouldn't be repaired under warranty because of water ingress - and there was never any water ingress and the issue was completely unrelated. I've heard of other occasions of the same thing happening with Sony as well, so this isn't an isolated event.
In this instance water ingress may have caused the issue, as the condensation would suggest, but I can still see Sony shafting me and not taking responsibility, despite the watch being advertised as waterproof.
What should I do? I'm tempted to try to dry it out myself somehow, but even then I've got a watch that's supposed to be waterproof and clearly isn't.

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Dropped phone in water

So it's been raining cats and dogs all day in NY and as I was getting in my car I heard something fall and hit my car as I sat in my car I looked around and saw nothing then checked my hoodie pocket and realized my phone was gone and I said FUCC...then I noticed it laying on it's back half way submerged in a big puddle...so I grabbed it and opened it without flipping it over and wiped away all the water...The white sticker wasn't affected by the water so my warranty is safe I assume and my insurance won't be affected in anyway....The only problem that seems to be occuring is the vibrations are very dim now compared to the earthquake that it used to be....Will the warranty/insurance cover this after I let the phone dry out? Or will they not see this as a valid problem?
i am pretty sure you will be ok since the white tab is not changed but i think the warrenty does not in anyway cover water dmg.
well the phone dried out and the vibrations seems to be normal again

Manufacturing Floor - Cracked Screen

Good Morning Guys and Girls,
Just wondering if anyone has experienced the same issue as me and how they got on.
I have had my phone exactly 3 weeks today I was using my phone and it was absolutly fine (no scratches/dents etc) put it face up on a table went had a showever when I came back there is a very large split in the screen perfectly straight (which would indicate manufacturing problem) going from top left corner half way down the phone to the right side.
I have spoken to HTC and they say its a chargeable fix as the warranty doesn't cover accidental damage but its not accidental damage! I have just phoned up my provider who said it would have to be sent back for them to determine whether it was accidental or not before sending out a new one but then they realised I actually got it through the carphone warehouse (as T-mobile direct were out of stock) and have now said I will have to take it to them as its their phone even though my contract was taken out with T-mobile direct.
This is a pain!
can you upload a photo?
Sure you had no impact before that? Or excessive pressure like in a pocket. Maybe it cracked later.
If not I don't know, maybe some faulty panel indeed that had a weak area that cracked due to thermal stress or something. In the lab it is probably easy to determine if it was cracked from the inside or due to external impact or torsion.
I have had a couple of light bumpbs but no damage/scratches after them and it was sitting all night on charge in my front room got up this morning picked it up used it for a minute (still fine) walked away came back 15 minutes later to find a crack. Noone had touched it.
Normally when I break a screen its a tiny crack and not normally in a perfect straight line. This one is 2.6" long
Pretty upset with this as its only 3 weeks old. I have had HD / HD2 / TD / TYTN etc and really abused them and I only end up with minor chips and scratches after about 10 months. Where as this one I have really tried to look after it
Also to add I never put my phone in my back pocket wher eI can sit on it.
It never shares a pockets with coins / keys or anything else that can damage it
And I will try and get a photo of it somehow - only cam I have at the moment is on the phone so don't think I can use that
Heres a picture, you can see where the light is reflecting is roughly the start point of the crack and it goes out both ways. I just don't see how a crack like this can form on its own sitting face up on a table.
That really sucks man.
I am going to get a hard cover for my phone. Don't want a cracked screen.
Having a look at your picture though - there doesn't seem to be a pressure point of impact etc. So what you're saying looks to be correct.
Hope you get it sorted.
I know thats what is frustrating me. Everyone telling me its accidental damage and I know I am not lieing, I have broken screens in the past and seen many more and I know how accidental damage looks you normally have a point of inpact as you say, its normally small or if it is big normally has multiple fractors no just one long steady line.
Yes, exactly.
However - you're going to have a hard time proving this to any retailer. As they normally have a very strict policy on warranty claims.
I'll get my way I have a nack of getting things I want from shops and businesses
I am hoping like the guy said at T-mobile as its only 3 weeks they might just do a handset swap rather than fixing it.
Anyone by any chance know how much it is to get a screen replaced?
Done some research for you - you're looking at 70 + pounds to replace it.
Thanks. Hmmmm thats quite a bit that I don't really have. Just hope I can get them to accept it as warranty. Might have to visit all stores in Sussex until one agrees to repair it lol.
Well it is even more, if you didn't actually cause the crack on the screen!
Hoping my Desire doesn't suffer the same fate as yours!
Good luck. My advice is do not put it on a table and walk away!
Ill post here how I get on.
I will be sure to keep a constant look on it, while I leave it on the table. Will test later if the same situation arises when leaving it on a chair.
Jokes aside: mine fell twice already. Once it was after a week I had it, it landed from about 1 meter high, 50cm far away after it slipped from my hand when picking it up from ... a table ! (I see a pattern, the desire doesn't like tables). Landed and rolled on my polished floor and I still can't see no visual damage. From that day on, I grip it so firmly, that it almost behaves like an iphone4
Second time it was from about 30cm and obviously no damage.
I had it for about 2-3 months and -knock wood- screen is ok.
It does look as a factory defect.
Is ur handset not insured either mobile phone insurance or as it happened in your house - your house insurance
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Well, don't know how the law is over there with you. But here in the Netherlands (and I thought it was EU, but not sure). Within a certain period of time the seller of the device is the one that should prove it wasn't used properly etc.
So.. they can say whatever they want about it being accidental damage. But at least here in this country, it's not up to you to prove otherwise. THEY have to prove you mistreated the device.
Your screen cracks without mistreating the device, sounds like a proper warranty claim to me!
It could be there has always been some tension on the screen, and when it got hot or cold it finally cracked. Who knows. I'd say let them prove you mistreated the device.
i work for carphone warehouse mate i wouldnt no what to do really say some thing elswe is wrong with it like crashing or some thing. depends on how noticeable try putting a cheap screen protector on it and see if it cant been seen then take it back LOL gimme a message if you want any more info =]
Don't CPW give you 3 months insurance for free as a come on?
That's nasty. I dropped mine from 30cm onto a wooden floor and the battery cover flew off and it sticks up in one corner now so had to bend it back to shape!
Good luck getting it sorted out.
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Unique Water Damage Problem

Good evening XDA,
I'll get right to the point - last night my mom's S3 fell out of her purse and sat on our driveway overnight in rain/freezing rain. It was in an otterbox commuter case so it wasn't naked but there are some issues with it now.
1 - the front and rear cameras are both foggy and look terrible when taking pictures/video
2 - the back key doesn't work consistently
I've looked at the water damage markers and they are both white. Do you think Telus will give her a replacement or will they say something about the foggy looking front/rear cameras? Is there anything I should know before I go there?
Also, if I disassemble the phone to try and dry the cameras, will this void my warranty? I couldn't see a warranty void sticker...
I've put the phone in a ziploc bag full of rice so hopefully that helps getting the foggyness out of the camera and if it does, I'll definitely try and get it replaced for her.
You should have put in in rice before you try anything.
Maybe hard-brick the phone and tell them you don't know what happened
Not sure myself, I personally knocked over a cup of tea and I'm fairly sure some of the water got in around the home button.I dried the water immediately, and the phone was powered on, so I just kind of left it. I have driving mode turn on-off randomly for a day, usb connecting even when not connected and randomly and random shutdowns for a month. Seems all fine now.

R.I.P my moto 360(10 days old)

Just got my 360 two weeks ago.
Everything works fine for me.
4 days ago, when I was walking in the mall.
Suddenly my wrist with 360 hit the wall by accident, but I didn't feel the impact was so big.
But when I looked at my 360 which only showed few stripes since then.
I was not able to fix it by myself and nor can the local phone repair guys.
So I have no way to order the second one.
Please, beware of sudden impact upon your precious 360.
I also don't recommend wearing it while cutting the grass and using a trimmer. I liked being able to control my music on my wrist while working in the yard until a rock from the trimmer hit my g watch and cracked the screen.
Hmm, this is why I got myself a Spigen Glass Screen Protector for the Moto 360. I don't trust myself, better safe than sorry.
I remember the last watch i actually tried to wear day to day was a Star Trek Watch in late 90's. I had just put my Tigger watch down due to battery problems (replacement batteries kept dying withing a week). First day wearing it I got home from work and looked down. Glass is cracked. Still have it. Cracked glass and all. I am more conscious about something on my wrist now that I started wearing the 360. I stopped my self from reaching under the car seat to pick something up. Hopefully I can keep it out of harms way for a while.
You can push on the bottom left or right edges and see the screen change colors... I'm guessing OP didn't break the glass but actually damaged the components underneath... I don't think any kind of protector would have helped.
i would imagine you shouldnt be able to hit the watch hard enough to cause dmg and not break the screen. id send it in and say you dont know how it got like that..
they might charge you to fix it, or they might just replace it for free.. id still try.
matika said:
But when I looked at my 360 which only showed few stripes since then.
I was not able to fix it by myself and nor can the local phone repair guys.
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Are you saying that the display cracked/shattered? Or, are you saying that it's just displaying a static, garbled image, but the glass is otherwise fine?
Here's why that matters. If the glass is not cracked, it MAY fall under warranty repair, because it's a solid state device, and such a small impact would not have jarred something internally unless it was poorly assembled (mistakes happen). If the glass is cracked, Motorola gives one free screen replacement on their phones during the 1 year warranty period. So, it's worth calling them to see if it applies to their watches as well.
Give it a shot.
I wouldn't be surprised if the connector for the display didn't pop out enough to
loose some of their data lines/clock, but still have power, that would explain the lines on your display.
If only it was easy to take the watch a part.....

Completely unresponsive touchscreen

Hello all,
I will preface this by saying that this issue is likely a result of water damage. However, my experience has been a bit odd. So someone bumped my chair, spilled water partially on my phone. I immediately removed the case and battery and let the phone sit for a good half hour before examining it. Looked completely dry so I inserted the battery and booted up. Went perfectly fine until the home screen appeared, at which point the screen did not register any touches and I could not interact with the phone. Removed the battery again and reexamined the phone: upon shaking it I found that some water shook free and was immediately worried. Let it dry for another half hour or so, rebooted it, and it worked perfectly for about half an hour, listened to music and such.
While texting, I noticed that there was some worrisome screen flickering going on so I removed the battery again and let it dry for another hour or two. Now I've reattempted to reboot it, but the screen absolutely refuses to respond to touch input. The phone appears to work perfectly fine and there is no damage to the screen I can see, nor does the flickering appear anymore. But touch input is fully unresponsive.
My current plan is to by a replacement digitizer, screen, and frame combo and replace that but I wanted to check in with the forum first to see if anyone has any ideas as to what the problem is and how I might go about verifying that the digitizer is indeed broken.
ericralph said:
Hello all,
I will preface this by saying that this issue is likely a result of water damage. However, my experience has been a bit odd. So someone bumped my chair, spilled water partially on my phone. I immediately removed the case and battery and let the phone sit for a good half hour before examining it. Looked completely dry so I inserted the battery and booted up. Went perfectly fine until the home screen appeared, at which point the screen did not register any touches and I could not interact with the phone. Removed the battery again and reexamined the phone: upon shaking it I found that some water shook free and was immediately worried. Let it dry for another half hour or so, rebooted it, and it worked perfectly for about half an hour, listened to music and such.
While texting, I noticed that there was some worrisome screen flickering going on so I removed the battery again and let it dry for another hour or two. Now I've reattempted to reboot it, but the screen absolutely refuses to respond to touch input. The phone appears to work perfectly fine and there is no damage to the screen I can see, nor does the flickering appear anymore. But touch input is fully unresponsive.
My current plan is to by a replacement digitizer, screen, and frame combo and replace that but I wanted to check in with the forum first to see if anyone has any ideas as to what the problem is and how I might go about verifying that the digitizer is indeed broken.
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I've personally not known digitizers to go bad from a little water. Usually it's an internal area where the water is getting too. If you're no longer under warranty I'd take the phone apart from the back by taking out the screws and examining it that way. It may be too late for it if it's caused flickering in the screen. It could have weakened it. Am I saying don't buy a digitizer? No that's up to you. Unfortunately since you used it within a few hours of it getting wet I'm not sure. The best thing to do is to at least let it have a chance to dry overnight since the water gets in places that not much air gets to it takes longer to dry. Some have had luck putting the phone in a baggy of dry rice to extract the moisture. I've never had much luck with that method. I've always taken the phone apart as much as I can and then putting rubbing alcohol on the board to seep in where the water may have gotten and then letting it air dry. Make sure not to get it on the screen though. And with any advice like this I take no responsibility if the phone messes up, becomes unusable or turns into a Ferrari
phonepie said:
I've personally not known digitizers to go bad from a little water. Usually it's an internal area where the water is getting too. If you're no longer under warranty I'd take the phone apart from the back by taking out the screws and examining it that way. It may be too late for it if it's caused flickering in the screen. It could have weakened it. Am I saying don't buy a digitizer? No that's up to you. Unfortunately since you used it within a few hours of it getting wet I'm not sure. The best thing to do is to at least let it have a chance to dry overnight since the water gets in places that not much air gets to it takes longer to dry. Some have had luck putting the phone in a baggy of dry rice to extract the moisture. I've never had much luck with that method. I've always taken the phone apart as much as I can and then putting rubbing alcohol on the board to seep in where the water may have gotten and then letting it air dry. Make sure not to get it on the screen though. And with any advice like this I take no responsibility if the phone messes up, becomes unusable or turns into a Ferrari
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Thanks a ton for the reply. I have essentially come to the same conclusion. It is quite an absurd issue that EVERYTHING appears to function, but the screen is no longer responsive to touch input. I'm going to try and replace the display body (only $50, can return it within 30 days if no luck). My Verizon contract ends in mid July so I just need a phone that can limp to that point or whenever the next Nexus is released.
Well, I managed to replace the screen/digitizer/body (essentially did a transplant of everything) and now my phone is back in reasonable working order. Had some odd issues with screen flickering again so that is worrisome, but the touch screen now works fine. Only issue is that the screen is absolute trash and is washed out, with major light leakage around the bezels (may have gotten some ****ty knockoff from China ).

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