Where to place fingers for heart rate check? - Asus ZenWatch

I've been trying to use the Fit app to do a heart rate check, but can't get a reading. I've tried placing a pair of fingers on each of the four metal edges of the watch frame, but I get nothing. Does anyone know exactly where to place fingers to get a heart rate reading?

itm said:
I've been trying to use the Fit app to do a heart rate check, but can't get a reading. I've tried placing a pair of fingers on each of the four metal edges of the watch frame, but I get nothing. Does anyone know exactly where to place fingers to get a heart rate reading?
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It's so inaccurate most of the time that it's really not worth it. I've only gotten readings that seem correct when my fingers have just the right moisture level. Otherwise, it's almost always super-high.

OK thanks for the warning I don't think I'll bother!

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Odd touch screen behavior

Well,i noticed some odd behavior the other day with my phone laying on my desk at work. It was completely unresponsive. So I was just fooling around, laying the phone on my bed, same thing. I realized that unless my other hand is touching the phone, the screen is unresponsive. Think this is some sort of grounding issue? It isn't a big deal, but I have never had this problem on other phones. Anyone else have this problem? Try sitting it flat on a desk without touching the body of the phone and see if the touch screen functions.
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Dont quote me on this but i read on how touch screens work and it basicly like you said the screen has a charge and when you touch it it slightly changes the charge and thats how the cpu monitors the change and tells the screen to act the way it does. But i am not sure why the screen gets less responsive when your not holding it in your hand. It happens with my G2 and my G1 so nothing new but maybe some one can actually explain what is going on.
Fear the static
The answer is quite simple; it's cooler outside so there is less humidity in the air. With lower humidity you have a higher static charge on your body (hence why you can zap someone more easily in the winter than the summer). Since the screen is capacitive (relies on small changes in the charge on the top surface to know where you are touching it) and you have a larger charge on your body, the digitizer sees it more like you bringing three or four fingers in close proximity to one spot. The reason putting both hands on it works is because you now give the digitizer a reference charge to distinguish and ignore.
TL;DR - Winter static makes screen think you are ham-fisting it.
Solution - use hand lotion to help dissipate your body's static charge from your fingertips, just don't use so much that you end up leaving greasy streaks on your screen. If you do, wipe the excess off of your hands with paper towels until you don't have lint tracks in your hand, TP is good for this.
sivalley said:
The answer is quite simple; it's cooler outside so there is less humidity in the air. With lower humidity you have a higher static charge on your body (hence why you can zap someone more easily in the winter than the summer). Since the screen is capacitive (relies on small changes in the charge on the top surface to know where you are touching it) and you have a larger charge on your body, the digitizer sees it more like you bringing three or four fingers in close proximity to one spot. The reason putting both hands on it works is because you now give the digitizer a reference charge to distinguish and ignore.
TL;DR - Winter static makes screen think you are ham-fisting it.
Solution - use hand lotion to help dissipate your body's static charge from your fingertips, just don't use so much that you end up leaving greasy streaks on your screen. If you do, wipe the excess off of your hands with paper towels until you don't have lint tracks in your hand, TP is good for this.
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U smart as hell thanks
Makes sense. Weird I never noticed before. Good deal.
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I can confirm this "issue" or behavoir. It happened to my phone exactly like u described. I dont know if this is a common thing for capacitive devices or not but it does happen to me.
Oh well, i guess i should stop being lazy and pick up my phone lol.
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U smart as hell thanks
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I 2nd that statement and a +1 on solution with lotion! lol
Now i will begin to tell my gf how the Screen isnt HEAT sensitive and why during the winter time with cold hands it responds differently.
i did notice this behavior the other day, and to be perfectly honest it scared the tar out of me, but then as soon as i picked the phone up it was fine again. i guess you really do learn something new every day, i always thought the capacitive screen reacted to heat, but i guess not.
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Solution - use hand lotion to help dissipate your body's static charge from your fingertips, just don't use so much that you end up leaving greasy streaks on your screen. If you do, wipe the excess off of your hands with paper towels until you don't have lint tracks in your hand, TP is good for this.
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****, do I have to go buy hand lotion now? Anyway, thanks a lot.
Does all capasitive screens react like this are some phones just more prone to it?

sw3 band width?

can anyone tell me the width of the sw3 rubber/sil band? i'm trying to figure out if it will work with a road id, while waiting for my sw3 to arrive
come on folks, surely someone can take a ruler to their band for me?
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can anyone tell me the width of the sw3 rubber/sil band? i'm trying to figure out if it will work with a road id, while waiting for my sw3 to arrive
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24mm
nigelhealy said:
24mm
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wow, just shy of an inch. looks like i'll be fussing with some leather to figure out how to get a road id attached. thanks!
metis1 said:
wow, just shy of an inch. looks like i'll be fussing with some leather to figure out how to get a road id attached. thanks!
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It is wide, for sure, but comfortable. You'll need some antiseptic non-corrosive wipes as if you wear it a lot eventually you get a rash from the organic material sticking to the rubber. Keep it clean matters more than with say metal band
ew, and thanks. anything obvious damage it? alcohol ok?
metis1 said:
ew, and thanks. anything obvious damage it? alcohol ok?
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safest is simple soaking and scrubbing in soapy water. The watch electronics parts pops out easily so washing strap doesn't need waterproofing. On my wrist its where the inner strap presses against skin, and the metal clasp presses against skin, I got red skin blotches itchy. Less bad if you take off at night (no need as the watch charges fast and lasts 1.5-2.0 days for me). The holes in the strap give coarse adjustment so you're either lucky or its too baggy or too tight. The vibration of the phone works best if tight, so its then luck of your wrist size to the strap notches. You might get less problems if your size is a luckier match than mine.

Looks like I'm the first moron to get their S-pen stuck. Yay.

No idea what happened. I just slid my s-pen into the body, no problem, but the cap didn't click back out past the o-ring to be flush with the body. It now sits in the body just past the o-ring/seal and will not come out. No idea WTF to do, but this is WAY worse of an issue than people putting the pen in backward on the 5. This wasn't avoidable. Pushing it in further, there's no feedback click and there's not enough force in the spring action to move it back out past the o-ring/seal. Not fun. Kinda pissed.
Any idea on how to coax it back out without scratching or gouging the finish anywhere?
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Using a thumbtack I very carefully poked the seal all the way around with the side of the point and was able to lightly pry it in a corner to get the end of the pen past the seal. Everything is fine now. Everything still works.
Note to everyone, it takes almost no pressure at all to get the pen seated properly, if you push it in too far (because you have fat fingers and you can't tell how far you're going past your case, like me) it can get stuck on the seal. Lightly press the pen back in and when it clicks, it's seated, stop pushing.
Don't know what o-ring or seal you are referring to. The s-pen chamber is sealed off. I doubt the pen docking hole is sealed itself since you can use the pen underwater anyway. Also, stop pushing when you feel the pen click back into place? Okay, but then you have to push fairly hard to retract the clicky pen top. All of that pressure is trying to push the pen further into the phone first, and since it can't go anywhere, the pen top retracts instead. I'm not following what you're saying at all.
This happened to me too. Had to use the tip of a pin to get the S-Pen button to pop back out again. Not sure why it happened, but there's a big YouTube video on this exact issue with the Note 7. Mine happened ironically after I did a water test in the bathroom sink to test the water resistance of both the phone & the pen. It passed the test - just under a minute under a couple inches of water.
What gives?
Just wanted to say this happened to me too, also after getting it wet. I had to use a razor blade to pry it out l, luckly I didn't scratch anything though.
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Note to everyone,
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that was the worst pun I've seen on XDA in a while
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Don't know what o-ring or seal you are referring to. The s-pen chamber is sealed off. I doubt the pen docking hole is sealed itself since you can use the pen underwater anyway. Also, stop pushing when you feel the pen click back into place? Okay, but then you have to push fairly hard to retract the clicky pen top. All of that pressure is trying to push the pen further into the phone first, and since it can't go anywhere, the pen top retracts instead. I'm not following what you're saying at all.
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My bad, I'm talking about the new ridge that blocks the pen from being able to go in backwards. It's got a rubberized finish at that ridge and that is where the click tip got hung up.
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No idea WTF to do, but this is WAY worse of an issue than people putting the pen in backward on the 5.
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One phone does not make an "issue." If it's an issue you'll by joined by others in short order. Until then your phone or S Pen has a singular defect. But thanks for queuing the OMG! crowd so this thread can grow needlessly to multiple pages like the RAM and glass scratching threads.
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One phone does not make an "issue." If it's an issue you'll by joined by others in short order. Until then your phone or S Pen has a singular defect. But thanks for queuing the OMG! crowd so this thread can grow needlessly to multiple pages like the RAM and glass scratching threads.
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By worse of an issue I meant that putting then s-pen in backwards problem with the Note 5 was as simple as not putting the s-pen in backwards... That's a user error situation. If more people start having the same issue as I had with the Note 7, during normal use, that's an absolutely true statement for me to have made. And 3 people have apparently had the same thing happen to them thus-far. Maybe it's not something that will effect everyone. Just sharing my personal experience.
I apologize if it seemed I was aiming at stirring things up, as tone isn't something one can convey well using text. That was not my intent. I just suspected that this might be something we see start popping up a bit in the forum. For $850+ USD it's not something I expected to happen and my initial shock may have weighted my words/tone incorrectly.
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One phone does not make an "issue." If it's an issue you'll by joined by others in short order. Until then your phone or S Pen has a singular defect. But thanks for queuing the OMG! crowd so this thread can grow needlessly to multiple pages like the RAM and glass scratching threads.
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Do you ever have something positive to say?
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The clicky button on top of the S Pen can sometimes get stuck outside of the Note7, too. Take yours out and instead of a quick click to lock it down, click and hold for a few seconds then let go. It will stay down and you'll have to fiddle with it to get it back up. I was able to replicate this a few times yesterday, but it doesn't seem to be doing it now. Hopefully it stays like that.
Wow.
Im sorry to hear all that. I heard of the note 5 people putting there sitck in backwards. I had the ntoe 3 and note 4 edge, never try to put my stick in backwards ever.
But this is just putting it in just a little to good lol...
I do worry that the clicker on the spend will go out it and it will be hard to remove but never thought it would just get stuck from pressing it in to hard.
This is way worse than note 5 reverse spen issue. Anyone in right mind wouldn't push pen in reverse as nib will be facing opposite which fingers should know as reflex when sliding in and to actually get to jam force needs to be applied. Note 7 stuck spen problem is like it happened even when one put it back as one is supposed to put it back. Hope Samsung will release bug fix firmware patch soon
too be honest people hardly use the s pen
Happened to me too... Ordered a new one.
https://youtu.be/LBlRKwX2QPE
KamrapterHD said:
too be honest people hardly use the s pen
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Speak for yourself... Most people I know bought the note specifically for the S-pen... Once they started using it it became second nature.
Just because you don't use it much does not a mean others don't...
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that was the worst pun I've seen on XDA in a while
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I can't believe it, I literally lmao
JinxtPhoto said:
No idea what happened. I just slid my s-pen into the body, no problem, but the cap didn't click back out past the o-ring to be flush with the body. It now sits in the body just past the o-ring/seal and will not come out. No idea WTF to do, but this is WAY worse of an issue than people putting the pen in backward on the 5. This wasn't avoidable. Pushing it in further, there's no feedback click and there's not enough force in the spring action to move it back out past the o-ring/seal. Not fun. Kinda pissed.
Any idea on how to coax it back out without scratching or gouging the finish anywhere?
*Update*
Using a thumbtack I very carefully poked the seal all the way around with the side of the point and was able to lightly pry it in a corner to get the end of the pen past the seal. Everything is fine now. Everything still works.
Note to everyone, it takes almost no pressure at all to get the pen seated properly, if you push it in too far (because you have fat fingers and you can't tell how far you're going past your case, like me) it can get stuck on the seal. Lightly press the pen back in and when it clicks, it's seated, stop pushing.
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This sucks. I hope it is just yours (sorry, I'm not sorry) and not a wide spread issue. One way to avoid this issue is to click the top of the spen before inserting it into the device. I know you shouldn't have to, but its just a suggestion.
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KamrapterHD said:
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wut? I use it all the time. Its better than your finger for almost anything. I find it more comfortable than my finger, even when swiping.
I haven't had a Note since my N3. Have the capacitive buttons always been responsive to the SPen or is this new? I dont think my N2 or N3 were.
I find it extremely amusing that every year Note users have to have their annual "Stuck Pen" thread.
Also, if you hold the phone with the pen slot facing away from you, and tap the other bottom corner on your hard with sufficient force, the pen will come out. Just so you don't have to dig your pen out.
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Happened to me too... Ordered a new one.
https://youtu.be/LBlRKwX2QPE
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Same issue here the pen's spring gets stuck and then you cant remove it from phone. Get a new phone they didn't wan to replace the pen only.

Fingerprint sensor Tips

Forget all the "you need to not press hard" bull****, it's way simpler than that.
Register your finger while holding the phone in one hand, position your fingerprint on the sensor exactly as you would casually, keep registering it that way, from a limited position on a one handed held.
If you do a "proper" registering process of your fingers from artificial positions just because you think it helps the sensor, it won't work, even minimal changes in your finger shape will make it generate different keys that will not match a real life press.
I registered my fingers from positions I would practically use to unlock later on, the success rate is now 100% as long as I don't miss the sensor on dark screen, no matter the pressure or the time you hold your finger on the sensor, it will now work every single time
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Forget all the "you need to not press hard" bull****, it's way simpler than that.
Register your finger while holding the phone in one hand, position your fingerprint on the sensor exactly as you would casually, keep registering it that way, from a limited position on a one handed held.
If you do a "proper" registering process of your fingers from artificial positions just because you think it helps the sensor, it won't work, even minimal changes in your finger shape will make it generate different keys that will not match a real life press.
I registered my fingers from positions I would practically use to unlock later on, the success rate is now 100% as long as I don't miss the sensor on dark screen, no matter the pressure or the time you hold your finger on the sensor, it will now work every single time
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I tend to agree with you. I registered both right and left thumbs and they both work on command. No 2nd or 3rd attempts yet. Just register the thumbs like you would naturally hold them on the screen(flat).
I also feel like the fingerprint scanner icon is a bit misleading, given the fact that the sensorbis actually above the actual icon
Corv0 said:
Forget all the "you need to not press hard" bull****, it's way simpler than that.
Register your finger while holding the phone in one hand, position your fingerprint on the sensor exactly as you would casually, keep registering it that way, from a limited position on a one handed held.
If you do a "proper" registering process of your fingers from artificial positions just because you think it helps the sensor, it won't work, even minimal changes in your finger shape will make it generate different keys that will not match a real life press.
I registered my fingers from positions I would practically use to unlock later on, the success rate is now 100% as long as I don't miss the sensor on dark screen, no matter the pressure or the time you hold your finger on the sensor, it will now work every single time
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But when I try to casually tap the screen to register fingerprint naturally, it won't register, keeps saying press harder or hold longer
Or register the same finger twice.. That's the better solution
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Shuthefrontdoor said:
But when I try to casually tap the screen to register fingerprint naturally, it won't register, keeps saying press harder or hold longer
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The tap needs a certain amount of pressure, not too light either
Corv0 said:
Forget all the "you need to not press hard" bull****, it's way simpler than that.
Register your finger while holding the phone in one hand, position your fingerprint on the sensor exactly as you would casually, keep registering it that way, from a limited position on a one handed held.
If you do a "proper" registering process of your fingers from artificial positions just because you think it helps the sensor, it won't work, even minimal changes in your finger shape will make it generate different keys that will not match a real life press.
I registered my fingers from positions I would practically use to unlock later on, the success rate is now 100% as long as I don't miss the sensor on dark screen, no matter the pressure or the time you hold your finger on the sensor, it will now work every single time
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Same, and i registered the finger I'm going to be using most twice. Registered casually and from a natural position. I think mine has failed to unlock maybe 3 times in a week. In this case...keep it simple don't over think it.
Sensor is off
I noticed when the screen is off in dark mode and u take a flashlight on a angle of the screen i noticed the sensor is like a U shape just slighty to the left of the finger print icon, now that i kinda setup my finger print just a tat left og the finger print icon its been 100 procent i also noticed moist fingers work better . i could be wrong about it being a sensor but the U shape i think would be the sensor
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I noticed when the screen is off in dark mode and u take a flashlight on a angle of the screen i noticed the sensor is like a U shape just slighty to the left of the finger print icon, now that i kinda setup my finger print just a tat left og the finger print icon its been 100 procent i also noticed moist fingers work better . i could be wrong about it being a sensor but the U shape i think would be the sensor
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You don't need to move your finger away, the sensing part of the sensor is perfectly aligned in the middle
New update on firmware.Science for snapdragon. SBA TO SD3. Made a world of difference for me. Can't wait for my replacement Whitestone to get here to see if sensor works any better with tempered glass. This update absolutely made a huge difference. Not slightly, very significant change for me. I register both thumbs twice and I couldn't get it to not unlock every time. 50+ unlocks and maybe 2 failures. I stopped counting at 50.
Will it work on verizon or only unlocked?
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im on ASC8 firmware on the G9750 10+ and its terrible. hopefully an update comes soon..
Mine has been pretty much perfect since the new firmware update.
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nugzo said:
New update on firmware.Science for snapdragon. SBA TO SD3. Made a world of difference for me. Can't wait for my replacement Whitestone to get here to see if sensor works any better with tempered glass. This update absolutely made a huge difference. Not slightly, very significant change for me. I register both thumbs twice and I couldn't get it to not unlock every time. 50+ unlocks and maybe 2 failures. I stopped counting at 50.
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I'm waiting on my Whitestone replacement as well. Can you keep us informed on how the sensor works with your new install? I had to pull the last one. It was horrible. I miss my glass...
The problem for me and many people is that when the finger being scanned is dry, scanning won't work (and will be asked to "press harder"). Some people then try to press really hard and it will, forever, say "not match".
People with moisted fingers will not have this problem and will not understand the kind of people I mentioned above. Since I have S10+ for a month, I, kind of, know when the scanning will not work. I will use face scanning instead or if I really want to scan my finger with whatever reason, I just rub my nose with my thumb then it will 100% work (greasy nose does the trick).
I don't know if Samsung can ever fix this since it is not how accurate the reader is.
Dry fingers don't work with the fps even when removing the pre-installed screen protector?
I am debating to remove the screen protector and my main points are:
1. The protection offered by the pre installed screen protector is minimal either way.
2. That the screen colors and usage will become much better.
3. That the fps will work much better even with dry fingers due to the oleophovic coat of the screen.
Has anyone who removed the screen protector tested this?
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Dry fingers don't work with the fps even when removing the pre-installed screen protector?
I am debating to remove the screen protector and my main points are:
1. The protection offered by the pre installed screen protector is minimal either way.
2. That the screen colors and usage will become much better.
3. That the fps will work much better even with dry fingers due to the oleophovic coat of the screen.
Has anyone who removed the screen protector tested this?
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I removed mine yesterday and it does help a little with the fps. I still don't like the fps though, I would much rather have a Face ID equivalent. Or have the fps on the back.
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I'm waiting on my Whitestone replacement as well. Can you keep us informed on how the sensor works with your new install? I had to pull the last one. It was horrible. I miss my glass...
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I had reached out to Whitestone because my first install failed. I had the WSD on my s9+ and went through 5 or 6 in the year (I dropped my phone a lot). So I knew what I was doing, but the first try had a huge bubble. Tried doing the cleaning and reinstall with the backup glue and had a bunch of microscopic bubbles in the top and bottom (guessing I didn't clean it well enough before reinstall). I wasn't sure how to register warrenty wise because technically it worked fine, just was having FPS issues. They ended up replacing without me paying for the shipping which was awesome of them.
Recieved my replacement today, and the install is flawless. One thing to note is on the 10+ the absorb pads hook into the top tray not the bottom (that was a hell of a mess the first time). The original kit didn't come with the pads pre-installed like the replacement kit.
I haven't even gotten the latest OTA yet, and with the WSD glass, it's just as quick and success rate is the same as when I had the pre-installed protector. Might even be faster than my s9+ was...

Spen can't come out, it's stuck

Hi all,
Has anyone such a problem - when push on spen it clicks and then pops out a bit but you can't get it out? It's stuck. Does anyone has some suggestions? I can't pull it out at all...
Put some force on it using your finger nails and try to break it free... otherwise disassembling the phone is the other option.
Lol, or break the end off and drill it out.
The new improved Ronco Spen Extractor... it slices, it dices.
You could try some semtex [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji28]
But sorry I have no idea I've not heard of this before.
Has it just stopped coming out? or has it had some damage? Could it be heat OR cold related?. Paul
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baylakedrive said:
You could try some semtex [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji28]
But sorry I have no idea I've not heard of this before.
Has it just stopped coming out? or has it had some damage? Could it be heat OR cold related?. Paul
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That's a thought... try letting the case get warm (not too warm or cold) or put it in the freezer for a few minutes.
Tough wuv with either cure it or break it...
Do Not use any kind of lubricant or solvent.
I take it you can press the little bit on the end of the pen and that comes out and then its stuck from then on or can you not even press the end bit out? Paul
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I noticed on my note 20 already I've had to wipe my pen with alcohol my daily oils and dirt make it feel gritty sometimes
baylakedrive said:
You could try some semtex [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji28]
But sorry I have no idea I've not heard of this before.
Has it just stopped coming out? or has it had some damage? Could it be heat OR cold related?. Paul
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I noticed on my note 20 already I've had to wipe my pen with alcohol my daily oils and dirt make it feel gritty sometimes
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Alcohol can craze many plastics... not a good plan.
Lol, I've had isopropyl literally disintegrate a butane lighter in under a minute, leaking butane like a sieve.
If you put a tempered glass screen protector on it could be the adhesive has gotten inside with the S-pen and then cured.
Depending on what the adhesive is (if that is the problem) depends on how you might be able to extract it...
777Nalsur777 said:
Hi all,
Has anyone such a problem - when push on spen it clicks and then pops out a bit but you can't get it out? It's stuck. Does anyone has some suggestions? I can't pull it out at all...
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Have you checked YouTube?
There's several videos on how to get the pen to come out.
The simplest method I found was the 1st result of googling "How to remove a stuck S-Pen".
Most other videos are variations on the same method/principle.
Hi to all. I have tried a lot of methods and non of them works. As I was saying I just can push on it and spen end pops out to be released and when I'm trying to pull it it is stay there like a rock. Before a while I was not be able to even push on it, I thought maybe some sand get inside from a beach, and yes, I was right. When I clean it with some type of medicine alcohol (with blowing it out of course) it became clickable again. So I suppose maybe this button doesn't send a signal to the phone anymore to release spen?
I have a thought...
Can I try to place a different spen near the phone, connect it with my phone and push a top button on a new spen, would it release my old spen from my phone?
Or, maybe, there is somewhere application to manually force this deamn motor
to release the stylus? I've found only app that saying was the spen top button pushed or not. That's how I figure out that this part could be broken. I hope it is because I would rather replace my spen than open my phone.
The top button on the spen does nothing except provide an easy way to pull it out.
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The top button on the spen does nothing except provide an easy way to pull it out.
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Could you please explain how it works when you try to get it out?
777Nalsur777 said:
Could you please explain how it works when you try to get it out?
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It's simply to help grasp it. It's not a lock.
When you reinsert it at about the .6 inch mark you start to feel slight uniform resistance.
Oddly at last .1 inch it seems to pull it in; I believe it's magnetic! Interesting critter.
Behaves the same if button is in or out.
Confirmed, there's a magnet in the last half inch of the spen. That's what holds it in place.
That's why it will pop out if you drop it hard enough.
There are no other mechanical mechanisms holding in place... normally.
blackhawk said:
It's simply to help grasp it. It's not a lock.
When you reinsert it at about the .6 inch mark you start to feel slight uniform resistance.
Oddly at last .1 inch it seems to pull it in; I believe it's magnetic! Interesting critter.
Behaves the same if button is in or out.
Confirmed, there's a magnet in the last half inch of the spen. That's what holds it in place.
That's why it will pop out if you drop it hard enough.
There are no other mechanical mechanisms holding in place... normally.
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Understood. Thanks. But that is strange why it is stuck.
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Understood. Thanks. But that is strange why it is stuck.
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Something is physically preventing it from moving.
Contamination of some kind... you can try to force it out.
If that fails it's repair shop time.
Look at a breakdown video for this phone, it will give you some clues how hard or easily a repair shop can fix it. I don't recommend taking it apart yourself, these phones are bears to disassemble.
777Nalsur777 said:
Hi to all. I have tried a lot of methods and non of them works. As I was saying I just can push on it and spen end pops out to be released and when I'm trying to pull it it is stay there like a rock. Before a while I was not be able to even push on it, I thought maybe some sand get inside from a beach, and yes, I was right. When I clean it with some type of medicine alcohol (with blowing it out of course) it became clickable again. So I suppose maybe this button doesn't send a signal to the phone anymore to release spen?
I have a thought...
Can I try to place a different spen near the phone, connect it with my phone and push a top button on a new spen, would it release my old spen from my phone?
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The pen is held on by friction only. The button on the end is nothing more than a way to pull it out using your fingers. It does not lock it in.
Pairing another pen will do nothing.
You're going to have to use more force to pull it out. Otherwise, either take it to a Samsung store, or send it in to get it removed.
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gernerttl said:
The pen is held on by friction only. The button on the end is nothing more than a way to pull it out using your fingers. It does not lock it in.
Pairing another pen will do nothing.
You're going to have to use more force to pull it out. Otherwise, either take it to a Samsung store, or send it in to get it removed.
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Actually it's held in place by a magnet; the end of the spen is magnetic.
blackhawk said:
Actually it's held in place by a magnet; the end of the spen is magnetic.
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Actually, no it is NOT. IT is held in by FRICTION. Every S Pen in EVERY Note device is that way.
Something has gotten on the OPs S Pen or has gotten in the phone which is causing it to stick.
gernerttl said:
The pen is held on by friction only. The button on the end is nothing more than a way to pull it out using your fingers. It does not lock it in.
Pairing another pen will do nothing.
You're going to have to use more force to pull it out. Otherwise, either take it to a Samsung store, or send it in to get it removed.
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Hi, you were right. I've got it out. Thank you all. There was a lot of very small sand like dust inside.
I've used a medical oil based medicine to fill a hole with Spen first of all - thought that there was even some super glue (that is how it was hard to pull it out and that medicine oil has some preferences that it could get weak super glue, but it was not the case), that oil helped me just to lubricate all the hole inside of the phone where Spen placed. Later I've attached a strong piece of yarn around the Spen button and tried to pull it out. After few attempts no result I was hopeless and tried to pull much harder even till it brakes. It went out then. Now top Spen button is a bit loose but it works!
Thank you guys for your suggestions and help one more time.
Now I will dry all inside and outside with a little of an alcohol to be on a safe side.

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