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Quick Ram Q

Hi. I'm at ATT HOX owner and trying to confirm we have same amount of RAM (not flash) as you tegra 3 guys. Could a tegra 3 owner quickly report how much total RAM the device reports in Task Manager? On my ATT device I see 554 used + 118 = 672MB total. Thanks!

Just had a look at mine and it shows 670 used 307 free which totals 977
That was by going into settings, programmes, running programmes
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Using task manager it shows 739 used 237 free
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976...
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Used 727
Free 249
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577 used, 400 free on CM9
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Oh boy....can someone confirm these numbers on a stock Rom with the stock task manager app?
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1.28 stock rom:
768 MB used
228 MB free.

1.29 stock
622 used
354 free
so 976 MB altogether
So I take it the Tegra 3 version has more usable RAM than the ATT version?

Meltus said:
1.29 stock
622 used
354 free
so 976 MB altogether
So I take it the Tegra 3 version has more RAM than the ATT version?
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No.. they both have the same amount of RAM. Whether or not it is available to the user is completely different. Maybe ours reports 977 for RAM but we can only freely access as much as the other HOX users can.
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Meltus said:
1.29 stock
622 used
354 free
so 976 MB altogether
So I take it the Tegra 3 version has more RAM than the ATT version?
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The "About" section in the settings says "1GB" under memory, so if there is indeed less ram in the AT&T One X, then they'd straight up be deceiving the consumer. I think the more likely situation is that there's ram being allocated for something else and the AT&T One X just doesn't show the ram at all. What that ram is being allocated for would then be the question that needs asking...

Sorry, I should have worded my sentence better.
I'm aware they both physically have the same amount of RAM but I wonder if the Tegra version has more available to the user than the ATT version?
(I've edited my post )

Meltus said:
Sorry, I should have worded my sentence better.
I'm aware they both physically have the same amount of RAM but I wonder if the Tegra version has more available to the user than the ATT version?
(I've edited my post )
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Could either be that the tegra version has more usable ram or simply that they both have the same amount of usable ram, only the tegra version doesn't hide the ram that isn't usable

Can someone do me a big favor and capture a screenshot of their phone's RAM usage overall in System Tuner like this:
I have a bad feeling that something is very very wrong with the AT&T One X's RAM. The values of the available "visible" free RAM is identical to HTC's 768 MB RAM phones like the Sensation and Desire HD, and the "hidden" RAM is about the same size (in this case both the Desire HD and One XL (AT&T One X) have about 160 MB kernel size in RAM...). I think either HTC really screwed up and needs to kick off a massive recall campaign (not actually putting 1 GB RAM into device) or they need to get to it and push out an update to the phone ASAP to fix the bug, because 200 missing MB of RAM can make the difference between barely being able to multitask and being able to run 10 tabs and go back and forth between something else without having the application ever need to reload.

Since HTC added the Task Manager app to its Android phones, the Task Manager always showed less total RAM than what the device actualy had.
Sensation had 768 Mb, but Task Manager showed 558 ish Mb only.
EVO 3D had 1 Gb, but Task Manager showed 808 Mb only.
I was expecting the same with the One X, which apparently is not. Task Manager shows the right RAM.
Then I found this thread! & your post. It seems that, in my opinon, it has to do with Qualcomm!! Since the international One X, the only recent HTC phone without a Qualcomm SoC, is also the first HTC phone to show the correct RAM in Task Manager.

This still doesn't address the question of why there's so little RAM shown when even the evo 3d had around 800 megs of RAM.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
This still doesn't address the question of why there's so little RAM shown when even the evo 3d had around 800 megs of RAM.
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there is no need for more ram
currently the only reason we see high ram usage is that android doesn't want to waste empty space, so it pre-loads apps into the ram / cache for faster launching in future.
if ram IS needed, these apps are removed from the cache and you will have more ram.

beaups said:
Hi. I'm at ATT HOX owner and trying to confirm we have same amount of RAM (not flash) as you tegra 3 guys. Could a tegra 3 owner quickly report how much total RAM the device reports in Task Manager? On my ATT device I see 554 used + 118 = 672MB total. Thanks!
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647 used 329 left, 976 mb total
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[Q] Ram memory

Hey people! I have one doubt:
The Gnexus have a 1GB Ram, right?
but, why, in all ROM Gnexus (almost all, I have not tested all) have 695MB more or less of memory?
I know, someone may say "the rest of memory is for system" but, i don't have sure about that.
by other side, I made the factory reset in these days and the memory RAM almost ever show more than 400MB used (without 305MB used for supposed system)
hmm... the system, plus the programs that came with the ROM, use, more or less, more than half memory available on Gnexus?
someone can answer my doubt?
Thanks and sorry my mistakes :cyclops:

Some of the RAM is reserved for the GPU, which is why it shows the physical amount as less than the 1GB advertised amount of RAM. Mine shows 694MB RAM, and I typically run around 100MB free RAM after the OS, running apps, cached apps, and data cache load.

Besides unused RAM is wasted RAM. The entire point of having 1gb of RAM is to be able to USE 1 gb RAM. The system and gpu get a nice chunk of it for performance.

Cilraaz said:
Some of the RAM is reserved for the GPU, which is why it shows the physical amount as less than the 1GB advertised amount of RAM. Mine shows 694MB RAM, and I typically run around 100MB free RAM after the OS, running apps, cached apps, and data cache load.
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Right. But for games (for exemple) what will show me the best fps is the RAM or MHz? Playing a heavy game, I need more free space in memory RAM, or both?
063_XOBX said:
Besides unused RAM is wasted RAM. The entire point of having 1gb of RAM is to be able to USE 1 gb RAM. The system and gpu get a nice chunk of it for performance.
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What can I do for the best performance in games or on response of Gnexus?

Both. They work together. I don't think I need to explain what RAM is.

063_XOBX said:
Both. They work together. I don't think I need to explain what RAM is.
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I search about RAM. One more question: is it true, the Gnex can work with overclock 1800Mhz more or less?
if no, what is the max?

GuilhermeHRS said:
I search about RAM. One more question: is it true, the Gnex can work with overclock 1800Mhz more or less?
if no, what is the max?
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very few can, most cant. the devices vary enough that some can run 1800mhz+ while others have trouble with 1500mhz. heres my gnex at 1804mhz high/1804mhz low..
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Can u explain me why s2 with a lot of blootware has 500-700/800mb free ram and our 200-300/698???????
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kagouro said:
Can u explain me why s2 with a lot of blootware has 500-700/800mb free ram and our 200-300/698???????
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I read somewhere that S2 has a screen of lower resolution so it's GPU takes less RAM
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simms22 said:
very few can, most cant. the devices vary enough that some can run 1800mhz+ while others have trouble with 1500mhz. heres my gnex at 1804mhz high/1804mhz low..
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that vary with kernel you use no? but how there is kernels that when you use 1800mhz have trouble and others no? and about IO sheduler? what's this?

kagouro said:
Can u explain me why s2 with a lot of blootware has 500-700/800mb free ram and our 200-300/698???????
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yeah! the Gnexus have a bigscreen, and for this have a good work, need some memory ram more than S2. I want to see and test one smartphone with 2GB RAM haha

another one of these threads -_- its been ask 100 million times and you can find the answer searching :3

ECOTOX said:
another one of these threads -_- its been ask 100 million times and you can find the answer searching :3
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Really? but now, the answer is here too.. always will have same threads, it's inevitable.

GuilhermeHRS said:
Really? but now, the answer is here too.. always will have same threads, it's inevitable.
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Not if people just learned to search. They aren't special. No matter what their Mother told them.

Yes, it's true.. But the people are lazy...

I rather have a quad core device than 2gb of ram. Both if I could have both I would be more than happy.
Wait for awesome devices this year, hopefully Nexus 4 like devices will get a more accessible price in a year or two
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GuilhermeHRS said:
that vary with kernel you use no? but how there is kernels that when you use 1800mhz have trouble and others no? and about IO sheduler? what's this?
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The actual hardware is the limitation. You can take two phones from the same production lot running the exact same rom and kernel, place them side by side, and one will be stable at 1.7 while the other boot loops at 1.3.
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[Q] LG G3 16 GB average FREE ram . How much do you have ?

i was looking to buy the 32 GB ver but it was hard to find in my area , so i went with the 16 GB ver .
and ever since it annoys me a bit every time i see the amount of free ram .
makes me think its on the edge of the performance , like , another app and it'll squeeze the last of its juice .
when i tried to clean all the possible proccesses i got something around 900 mb of free ram which climbed back to around 400 of free ram really fast .
how much of free rm do you have ? and is there any suggestions to steralize it to the max ? ( with preferabilityto keep it that way )

mine is about 400mb left out of the 2GB RAM.

On Android, you want as much of the RAM to be in use as possible.

Mine is 1.2G on the 32G version.
If you have 900M so it's very good. 400 is acceptable. As long as you don't have <100M it will be smooth.

Japultra said:
On Android, you want as much of the RAM to be in use as possible.
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Yes and no. You need Ram so the apps can sit open in the background however when you run out of Ram, apps will start closing and redrawing everytime you open them. The QHD screen uses more Ram overall as it needs to store more screen data so with the 2gb G3 you're going to have more redraws. On average, an HD 1080 screen uses around 200-300mb Ram for video and a QHD uses 500-600mb of Ram for video.

400mb on average here. Sometimes 300. Doesnt seem to affect performance but would feel much better if we could get a up to date rom zipaligned which may free up more ram

Batfink33 said:
Yes and no. You need Ram so the apps can sit open in the background however when you run out of Ram, apps will start closing and redrawing everytime you open them. The QHD screen uses more Ram overall as it needs to store more screen data so with the 2gb G3 you're going to have more redraws. On average, an HD 1080 screen uses around 200-300mb Ram for video and a QHD uses 500-600mb of Ram for video.
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yeah , i expirience sometimes the redrawing and it's a kick in the balls .
playing a game doesnt allow me to reply a message and go back to it , it'll relaunch the game
maybe this is the reason to make sure nothing usless and unimportant doesnt draining my ram .
did somebody do a complete "ram cleaning" ? by that i mean keeping only THE most important services for the system to work properly , and kill \erase\stomp the other marketing bull**** ?

I have on average 6-700mb free ram

Sufflix said:
I have on average 6-700mb free ram
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With what G3 version? 2/16 or 3/32?

Wow, just checked and I have 1.4 gb in use and 1.4 gb free.

Any free RAM is wasted RAM.
That's how Android works, it maximises used RAM by keeping things in memory. Freeing RAM does not help in any way in making it faster or better, and uses more processing power (hence more battery). That's just silly. Your android phone is not a PC!

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32gb model
I've had it down to about 300mb before and it still runs fine.

around 560mb with 16gb version

Some pretty informative stuff on Android and ram here...
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2014/01/process-stats-understanding-how-your.html?m=1
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html?m=1
- Tapatalked from the G3

Disable mlt test in hidden menu, reboot and you will get at least 100 mb more ram (it is a known useless tracking process by lg)
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carburano said:
Disable mlt test in hidden menu, reboot and you will get at least 100 mb more ram (it is a known useless tracking process by lg)
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Well, i just tried that, and honnestly there's no difference, still ~560mB free at boot, which is pretty nice already !

Average 1.7GB free ram (D855 32GB)
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antNOMA said:
Well, i just tried that, and honnestly there's no difference, still ~560mB free at boot, which is pretty nice already !
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I had 350/380 mb free ram before this... Now 450/500 circa
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Batfink33 said:
With what G3 version? 2/16 or 3/32?
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2/16

subwoffer13 said:
i was looking to buy the 32 GB ver but it was hard to find in my area , so i went with the 16 GB ver .
and ever since it annoys me a bit every time i see the amount of free ram .
makes me think its on the edge of the performance , like , another app and it'll squeeze the last of its juice .
when i tried to clean all the possible proccesses i got something around 900 mb of free ram which climbed back to around 400 of free ram really fast .
how much of free rm do you have ? and is there any suggestions to steralize it to the max ? ( with preferabilityto keep it that way )
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I have 480Mb without cleaning anything...

2gb vs 4gb model, weird memory usage

So my 1.8ghz 2gb zen2 model was thrown and the only thing that stop working is the sim1 slot. So instead of waiting for repair I purchased the 1.8ghz 4gb model.
Crazy thing... Both phones are set up exactly the same. Fully stock. It seems the 4gb model is using more ram than the 2gb model. I have less than 800mb avail on both. Makes no sense at all. Any ideas why or has anyone else noticed this?

Why are all People complaining about RAM usage. Only a full RAM is a good RAM.
More Apps in RAM doesn't mean more battery usage like on Windows.

I didn't say anything about battery. I payed the extra $30 for 4gb so when I'm switching between apps, and I usually have quite a few running, that they aren't reset when I switch between them.
I was just wondering why I seem to have less ram available than my 2gb model. Which I was gonna reply seemed to fix with a cache partition wipe.

Frankenberrie said:
So my 1.8ghz 2gb zen2 model was thrown and the only thing that stop working is the sim1 slot. So instead of waiting for repair I purchased the 1.8ghz 4gb model.
Crazy thing... Both phones are set up exactly the same. Fully stock. It seems the 4gb model is using more ram than the 2gb model. I have less than 800mb avail on both. Makes no sense at all. Any ideas why or has anyone else noticed this?
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Well the 4g (really it's 3.8g but they round that up) ram model is a 2.3ghz processor and are you sure you are reading your ram usage correctly? I have the 2.3 4g ram 64g hd and it shows more than 1 g usable ram left (it's about 1900 to 2000 used on this picture with apps in the background) completely stock. If you are reading correctly it might be the apps your running. In short though your suppose to have higher ram usage and the kernel frees ram as needed when your ram gets too low and that's exactly how proper ram management should work.
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You would clear the ram by pressing the power & boost quicktile or by quick pressing the window swap hw button on the bottom right of your phone and clearing your recent apps.
Here is a pic after clearing the recent apps.
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alope said:
Why are all People complaining about RAM usage. Only a full RAM is a good RAM.
More Apps in RAM doesn't mean more battery usage like on Windows.
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That's the theory, yeah - RAM on Android should be mostly filled up and then released by the OS as needed depending on use. But for whatever reason on the stock ASUS firmware the OS is not managing RAM effectively - it's taking up too much and not releasing it properly. Mine drops as low as 200MB and then there are very noticeable slow downs. Not sure if this is because of 5.0 memory leaks, or bad RAM management specific to ASUS code. I have had to limit background processes under the developer options in settings to acheive acceptable smooth running.

Teclast X3 Pro, the first 8GB RAM and 128GB SSD tablet pc

I have read the nice news that Teclast will also announce Teclast X3 pro which will be the first RAM 8GB and 128GB SSD tablet pc.
This is the same chipset as the Cube i9, which was just been released. Hot on heels of Cube, Teclast have gone for more RAM, 8GB of daul channel ram Vs the 4GB of dual channel ram in the i9.
It seems Teclast X3 pro will be th higher version of Teclast X2 pro. But gone is the last gen Core M 5Y10, replaced with the much more powerful, but still fanless Core M3-6Y30.
In one image it looks like we have USB 3.1 Type-C port? I wonder if it will finally have Wireless AC?
As for the price, it will be sold at $599 from E-Shop. So the official price will be around $385-$400 in China.
Are you looking forward to Teclast X3 pro tablet pc?
Teclast X3 Pro specs:
Item Type:
Tablet PC
Tablet Data Capacity:
128GB
Network Communiction:
Bluetooth,Wifi
Extend Port:
DC Jack,Earphone Jack,HDMI,OTG,TF card
Brand Name:
Teclast
Package:
Yes
Net Weight:
970g
Supporting Language:
English,Russian,Spanish,Swedish,Portuguese,Italian,German,Chinese,French,Japanese,Polish,Ukrainian,Greek,Hebrew
Camera:
Second Webcam
Processor Manufacture:
Intel
Touch Screen Type:
Capacitive Screen
Processor Main Frequency:
Dual Core
Feature:
Multi Touch,HDMI,OTG,Dual Cameras
Memory Capacity:
≥8GB
Item Condition:
New
Second Webcam Pixels:
5MP
Operating System:
Windows 10
Display resolution:
1920×1080
Cell Capacity:
9000mAh
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Intel Skylake Core M3-6Y30 1.51GHz
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11.6″
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X3 Pro
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I'm planning to buy this tablet.

I like it,.. it resolves my main issue with the X16 Power — a PC with the computing power of the Samsung Galaxy S4. This is much closer to the S7 that just came out.
I am a *little* worried about android studio in 8GB of ram, I've seen my system go up over 8 with the emulator running .. but I guess I'll just have to get use to using a testbed device if I get this.

8Gb of RAM? God what are you going to do with that! Although it seems marketed towards professionals..

Walter H. said:
8Gb of RAM? God what are you going to do with that! Although it seems marketed towards professionals..
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I still can't believe it, and it is true, maybe the RAM 4GB can't afford the needs of the users like you.

FumiJ said:
I still can't believe it, and it is true, maybe the RAM 4GB can't afford the needs of the users like you.
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It's very useful for programs like Photoshop.

8gigs of RAM is a must nowadays on proper computers, so I'm glad that it comes with these.

[email protected] said:
8gigs of RAM is a must nowadays on proper computers, so I'm glad that it comes with these.
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by the way, ram 8gb is the main tendency now, i hope the price will be more affordable, so the users will be likely to catch one to enjoy it.

[email protected] said:
8gigs of RAM is a must nowadays on proper computers, so I'm glad that it comes with these.
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yeah, RAM 8GB storage will become the main tendency of the laptop.

[email protected] said:
8gigs of RAM is a must nowadays on proper computers, so I'm glad that it comes with these.
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Almost.. yeah. Mostly due to Chrome using that much RAM.

Do you think it will have a real mSATA drive or one of those slower eMMC ones?

It is a real mSATA
"Like all the other Chinese Core M tablet tested here at Tech Tablets, the X2 Pro comes with a M.2 2242 spec 64GB SSD or 128GB SSD. My version here is the 64GB model. Speeds are good and definitely a huge step up from the eMMC drives seen in the Atom tablets. And since the tablet has USB 3 ports you can make more use of the faster sequential read and write speeds without any storage bottlenecks."
http://techtablets.com/teclast-x2-pro/review/

Will Video editing possible on this device?

Maybe a stylus available for this model?

what is the official day of sales ??? official website ?? technical specification approved ?? best product to buy? more information ??

Stylus available
Starzi said:
Maybe a stylus available for this model?
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Yup. Also confirmed with product FAQ on GearBest.

The fact that it's fanless will it lead it to increase of temperature? I hope not. It's now on presale on geekbuying for about 478usd which is a bit less than expected.

CARE ? , no vendor has available , NOT the official day that will be released is known .

I am ordering, hopefully they can ship early May. Rumors are 30th April is the first batch shipping

Mine just got shipped. I have ordered with keyboard ans x2 stylus, which is compatible according to Teclast FB support. I will keep you posted