Develop Bugs

Missing Apps in Market

Anyone else had problems with missing apps in the Market with the Desire?
Specifically:
http://www.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=72687bc93eba9a1b&hl=en
Good example seems to be the National Rail app, but I'm finding plenty of others too...some I've paid for :-(
Daern

Yes, I have. JuiceDefender is missing for me, however I got it from andappstore.com. No sign of that National Rail one there though.

And the BlueAnt Q1 app is not available....

I think everybody has problems finding all the programs. Try to search for Raging Thunder 2 for example. You will properbly only find the lite version and not the full version. I bought the full version with my Milestone, but now it cannot be found anymore.
Every Android phone has a 'fingerprint' in the build.prop file. This fingerprint has to be approved by google. Somehow google has not yet approved the fingerprint of the Desire, so protected apps cannot be fount yet.....
I have no clue why this takes so long.
Maybe someone from google is here and reads this and can explain to us why it's taking so long for the fingerprint to be approved?

Interesting. According to the similar thread about the Legend, however, it seems that HTC are pushing out an update to fix this...
Perhaps it's the fingerprint from the Hero

I've read about this issue which was recently explained by a developer of XDA (nprussell).
Apparently everyone is in the same boat so to speak. He states that many "protected" apps are missing from the market. There are generally two reasons why apps will be missing from the market:
When a new ROM or handset is released, the manufacturer (i.e. HTC), sends the build to Google for verification, which includes a 'Fingerprint' (a unique line of text which governs its market access) in one of the build files. Generally, it states the name of the phone and Android version in the fingerprint. With Root & System write access, this fingerprint can be changed, but although it's been claimed that the Desire has recently been Rooted, we still don't have confirmation from any developer of it being able to gain System write access.
Only until Google approve the build, then fingerprint will be added to their allowed database to view these protected apps on the market.
The other cause for apps missing from the market in builds is because of permissions of certain apps. For example, the barcode scanner app requires permissions to use the camera/auto focus. They are NOT protected apps. If the XML permission files are missing from system/etc/permissions, then Google Market will simply block these apps from showing.
HTC need to chase Google up on this and Google need to activate the Fingerprint.

Excellent info, thanks for that. So it's chasing HTC to get them to chase Google for an update.
I think I'll just go back to stopping the tide from coming in...much better chance of success, I reckon

Is there no where we can download the apk (for free apps of course) and just transfer it to the phone and install it ourselves?

strange think is I could find some apps. I found and installed Barcode Scanner no prob..
???

s4vva said:
Is there no where we can download the apk (for free apps of course) and just transfer it to the phone and install it ourselves?
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just google which ever apk you want (for free apps obviously) and install it to your phone, with the sync software that was on your original memory card.
i emailed HTC today to find out what they and google are doing to sort this out. if everyone emails them they might eventually chase google...

Mastoid said:
I've read about this issue which was recently explained by a developer of XDA (nprussell).
Apparently everyone is in the same boat so to speak. He states that many "protected" apps are missing from the market. There are generally two reasons why apps will be missing from the market:
When a new ROM or handset is released, the manufacturer (i.e. HTC), sends the build to Google for verification, which includes a 'Fingerprint' (a unique line of text which governs its market access) in one of the build files. Generally, it states the name of the phone and Android version in the fingerprint. With Root & System write access, this fingerprint can be changed, but although it's been claimed that the Desire has recently been Rooted, we still don't have confirmation from any developer of it being able to gain System write access.
Only until Google approve the build, then fingerprint will be added to their allowed database to view these protected apps on the market.
The other cause for apps missing from the market in builds is because of permissions of certain apps. For example, the barcode scanner app requires permissions to use the camera/auto focus. They are NOT protected apps. If the XML permission files are missing from system/etc/permissions, then Google Market will simply block these apps from showing.
HTC need to chase Google up on this and Google need to activate the Fingerprint.
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Just to confirm this explanation, I actually emailed HTC support asking about the missing apps and this was pretty much exactly what they told me. They are waiting for Google to approve the ROM for copy protected apps, and apparently it takes about a week... so hopefully we can expect full access some time next week. Fingers crossed!

foner78 said:
Just to confirm this explanation, I actually emailed HTC support asking about the missing apps and this was pretty much exactly what they told me. They are waiting for Google to approve the ROM for copy protected apps, and apparently it takes about a week... so hopefully we can expect full access some time next week. Fingers crossed!
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Nice one Bud, thanks for that update

All back for me Now on Vodafone

Yep. One of those apps for me was Google Earth since this is what I was facing so I installed it from the link here too and all works well: http://www.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=46acda8204439646&hl=en
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th3 said:
Yep. One of those apps for me was Google Earth since this is what I was facing so I installed it from the link here too and all works well: http://www.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=46acda8204439646&hl=en
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Yep, that's about all we can do right now to install apps (or use barcode scanner app) which are not available via the Marketplace.
Tip: For anyone who has not done this yet and would like to know, make sure you first install HTC Sync (found pre-installed via your SD card).

Few questions....

Hi i got many questions...and issues
-Internal memory : jeez i installer 2 dozen applications and i got 13m left and the alert about low memory (which cant be deleted)
seriously??? 13mb left???? how can it be possible ! when i check the application list, i have like 40-60mb (made a quick calcul) installed ! i cant even isntall google earth ! and what the hell is "contact list" app? its almost 30mo!!
-Wifi tethering : any way without root? for tether with ipad
-Push mail through the HTC app...possible?
-How can i change the defaut app to open for X action...
-Can i use another SMS software with the HTC message widget? exemple when i click new message it open the defaut one...
-How can i use picasa ? i keep having an error (authentification...) in gallery app.
-voicesearch and speech to text. Installed HTC IME KB, Voice app and nothing work. I cant have the keyboard in the list of KB. And voice search doesnt work...(error connex)
thanks a lot

You want WinMo

oh no i dont

For all those questions, yes you do as it does them...the Desire doesn't as yet.
- It has Push for Googlemail, I think there is another app you can use for other account types
- Can't change default apps
- Can't use other SMS software (I don't think, could be wrong)
- Can't tether without rooting (as you've said)
HD2 does all these, some stock some with custom ROMs

EddyOS said:
For all those questions, yes you do as it does them...the Desire doesn't as yet.
- It has Push for Googlemail, I think there is another app you can use for other account types
- Can't change default apps
- Can't use other SMS software (I don't think, could be wrong)
- Can't tether without rooting (as you've said)
HD2 does all these, some stock some with custom ROMs
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- what about the support for Exchange push in the mail program?
-if you install another program, you may be able to. you can remove the defaults for applications in the settings. that's why you can switch between homescreens once you have installed launcher2.apk....
- there's plenty of other SMS software in the market, ChompSMS, Handcent etc.
- yes, you need to root.

But overall, yeah, it sounds like for the kinda stuff you want to do, winmo would be better all round.

rhedgehog said:
But overall, yeah, it sounds like for the kinda stuff you want to do, winmo would be better all round.
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some are minor
but the memory issue is absoluterly TERRIBLE and not normal
what the **** seriously? cant even instal google earth

totorip said:
some are minor
but the memory issue is absoluterly TERRIBLE and not normal
what the **** seriously? cant even instal google earth
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Honestly you don't need google Earth it's 22mb and the maps does the same thing!
Also big drain on battery (Earth and Maps) so not something you would want to use all the time anyhow.
Search around for apps as you may find one that does same but for less space.
Also, are you using all the apps? Are a lot of them just games?
Be smart with the limited space.
It's not ideal I know, but until anything changes not a lot you can do.

-Internal memory
Yes, this is a pain. I wish Google would let us put stuff on SD card already without having to root the phone and HTC needs to put less preinstalled crap too replacing it with OTA on demand instead. Teeter? WTH!
-Wifi tethering
Yes, PDANet and some other application allow BT/WiFi/USD tethering with Windows/OSX and Linux. Probably not with iPad because it has no USB, BT is crap (if same as on iPhone) ... not real OS X.
-Push mail through the HTC app...possible?
No. Google's own email app will do push for Gmail accounts only. HTC email will check at specified intervals.
-How can i change the defaut app to open for X action...
You can't, as far as I know.
-Can i use another SMS software with the HTC message widget? exemple when i click new message it open the defaut one...
Yes. There are two very popular ones, but HTC's own is all I need.
-How can i use picasa ? i keep having an error (authentification...) in gallery app.
Yes. Not sure about your error. You can get Gallery app from N1 and use that instead of HTC's Photos.
-voicesearch and speech to text. Installed HTC IME KB, Voice app and nothing work. I cant have the keyboard in the list of KB. And voice search doesnt work...(error connex)
Hmm, by default HTC IME doesn't do voice. I installed Voice Search with Android default keyboard and have that feature now. Although I rarely use it. Swype FTW! Check the forums there was a link to the apk to get it all working.

thanks a lot...for the answer even though some are really mindblowing in the worst way
thx !

yup yup
You've summed up some of the biggest problems with Android and the Desire.
The inability to install apps to an SD card is a big problem - one that can be solved by waiting for root, or by waiting for the next release of Android (I think Google have said they are working on this feature for the next version). Basically, just by waiting.
I use IMAP IDLE with the K-9 email app for push IMAP email from my fastmail.fm account. Works instantly and perfectly. Love it.
Hope this helps a little.

what the hell is "contact list" (in application / manage application)
its 28mo!!!

i deleted it
lost all my contact
synced again with google , i have them back..and no ****ty 30mb file
what was it??

totorip said:
what the hell is "contact list" (in application / manage application)
its 28mo!!!
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My Applications/Manage Applications FCs on me all the time (it is probably some app installed from apk that causes this problem). Don't see said app show up in APK or ASTRO.

i dont get what u mean

Must-Have List of applications

Dear owner of eLocity A7, we need you...
It's must-have list of applications which we can use to improve usability, ergonomics and enjoyment with tablet. There are recommendations, not orders
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Rules and template:
app -> reason
1. Don't add games
2. Music and video players, readers, news, social network apps are undesirable, but in extra case they can be added. This isn't contest of best app for twitter.
3. You can add alternative apps even app with same functionality exists in list already (alternative launcher for example)
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General
Quick Boot -> Use shortcuts 'Reboot' and 'Power Off' instead of hardware-button
CalenGoo -> [PAID] Great calendar app (thx to MagentaJoe)
Bluetooth GPS Provider -> Use a bluetooth GPS receiver with apps like Maps and many others
BlueGPS4Droid -> Use a bluetooth GPS receiver with apps like Maps and many others
QuickPic -> Great substitute for existing gallery apps that come w/ devices. its about 200k, no overly fancy 3d, and is great to use as a wallpaper picker. (thx to bestialbub)
Any Cut -> Allows you to create Home shortcuts to anything. (thx to bestialbub)
Launchers
Launcher Pro -> Replacement of standart home-launcher (standart is sluggish)
Zeam -> Replacement of standart home-launcher (thx to bestialbub)
ADW Launcher -> Replacement of standart home-launcher
Performance
Root Uninstaller -> [FREE] Uninstalls any unneeded default apps easily (thx to TheZedo)
Autostarts -> [PAID] Root users can disable unwanted autostarts and speed up their phone boot.
Screen
Screenshot ER -> [XDA Free / Market PAID] Screen capture app for all rooted devices
Button Savior -> Makes virtual buttons (Simulates 'Home' 'Back' 'Search' 'Back' 'Recent Task' 'Screen Off')
BackLightKiller -> Turning off the back light also puts the device on standby. This app gets round this by setting the back light to 0.01 and forcing the machine not to switch off.
Screen Filter -> Reduce the brightness of your screen for night-time viewing
Files
Root Explorer -> [PAID] Filebrowser (requires root) - easy, light and high-functional
Ghost Commander -> File manager for the Android platform with two panels (famous Norton|Midnight|Total Commander style)
AndRootFile -> [Free] - root access file manager for read, write, delete capability (thx to cbotd)
Keyboards
Keyboard from Android 2.3 -> Gingerbread keyboard (thx to netstat_EVO)
Thumb keyboard -> [PAID] Thumb Keyboard introduces a comfortable keyboard for thumb-typing on the Phone ánd Tablet (thx to dmaryland)
SwiftKey -> [Trial/PAID Amazon & Android Market] Easy keyboard that comes with auto-correct and predictive text typing (thx to cbotd)

Maybe a spell checker would be a good app for you. lol

I<3Android said:
Maybe a spell checker would be a good app for you. lol
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You are an idiot. His info lists that he is from Russia... I REEEEAAALLLLYYY doubt that english is his first language. Compared to most americans, he's got it down pretty good too.
I ball bust on here, but at least my posts contribute.

I<3Android said:
Maybe a spell checker would be a good app for you. lol
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I didn't see any misspelled words in his post. Get your whining right next time. Also, yes, you are an idiot.
My contribution to the list would be CalenGoo. It's a great calendar app.

I'm curious of what others are using too. I learned about button savior on another post and it is a convenient app to have. Watching this thread with interest of the other hidden goodies I don't know about.

Another one to add to the list...
Gingerbread Keyboard.
I think it's. "Keyboard from 2.3 +" in the market. One of the best dollars I have ever spent.
There is a free one too without the plus sign, but what the hell, it's only a buck.
Awesome auto spell check too.
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Not sure why people don't talk about this app...
Thumb Keyboard -> This is the best keyboard app for the Elocity in my opinion. I wrote half of my Law term paper using it.

app 2 sd
Does this app work on the A7? I tried looking up any references in the forums but couldn't find anything. I know there is a problem on the A7 with sd cards and have tried this app but cannot get it to save apps to the sd card. Even though file manager apps do see the sd card and allow access to it.
Thanks.

App 2 sd
I have this app downloaded but all I can do is clear cache or delete apps. I've never been able to move apps to the SD card either.

fredericaw said:
I have this app downloaded but all I can do is clear cache or delete apps. I've never been able to move apps to the SD card either.
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Does the app let you set a path for the SD card? Or automatically assume /mnt/sdcard?

It automatically does it.

fredericaw said:
It automatically does it.
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Well that's just inconvenient.

Screenshot ER -> screen capture app for all rooted devices
Free at XDA
Paid at market

Great thread, wish I had seen it earlier, autostarts a paid app now

Root Uninstaller - [FREE] Android Market - uninstalls any unneeded default apps easily.

Free Root File Manager
AndRootFile [Free] Amazon Appstore - root access file manager for read, write, delete capability
Found this at Amazon AppStore. See's SD card and any mounted device in DexMod v1.2 and gives the real space free and spaced used for my 16gig SDCard. Read, write, move, delete and everything else. Very nice GUI too.
Did not find it on Google Market.

SwiftKey
SwiftKey [Paid] Amazon and Android Market - easy keyboard that comes with auto-correct and predictive text typing.
Got this as the free app of the day on Amazon, but well worth the $1.99 it costs. It has made typing on my A7 much easier and much more enjoyable.

cbotd said:
AndRootFile [Free] Amazon Appstore - root access file manager for read, write, delete capability
Found this at Amazon AppStore. See's SD card and any mounted device in DexMod v1.2 and gives the real space free and spaced used for my 16gig SDCard. Read, write, move, delete and everything else. Very nice GUI too.
Did not find it on Google Market.
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Can you compare with Root Explorer? Who has more functionality?

5[Strogino] said:
Can you compare with Root Explorer? Who has more functionality?
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I currently do not have root explorer. I have used it only twice on a previous device. So far the two seem very comparable based on my limited use and recollection of Root Explorer.

[Q] Batch Apps to SD

Hi all,
Anyone know of an app that will transfer apps to SD as a batch process?
All of the ones from the play store I've tried just direct you to the apps page in the app manager and expect you to click "Move" yourself...makes it pointless having the app, as I could do that myself!
Was after one that would let me select several apps, then click one button and the app would then do all the work.
Cheers

[Q] note 4 stock messages app

hi,
i have a note 4, and i have changed the Samsung keyboard to google keyboard, and i love it.
but now when i type a misspelled word i get two suggestions of words to replace it with. one on google keyboard and another one that pops up. the pop up looks to be from the stock Samsung messages app. i tried going to the messages settings to remove it, but i found nothing nor in language and input settings. so my question is how do i remove this one?

Get Swiftkey. I got it about 4 years ago when it was a paid app. It's free now but you can get themes cheap. I'm using this one.
I've never used another keyboard since I found it. I especially like the arrow keys and the predictions actually learn from you as you go.
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