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[EXPERIMENT]Replacing Cam Module w/ Defy Cam module to get working camera

http://www.globaldirectparts.com/Motorola-Defy-MB525-Camera-p/mot1038910.htm
There you go. This part is $15.29. If someone is brave enough to do this, you will need a t5 torx screwdriver and anything that you think would help.
I'm not really sure that just replacing the cam module will provide a working camera for the MIUI and CM7 Defy ROMs, but it seems a good $30ish project to try! Plus you get a way nicer 5mp cam with 720p video record!

Excellent experiment, why dont you try it? I think that no everybody will be a guinea pig for this
I have disassembled some moto android phones, but this is my first time with a bravo, I have to change the digitizer because it is broken but still works, but I dont think I could give a try to that!

josuearisty said:
Excellent experiment, why dont you try it? I think that no everybody will be a guinea pig for this
I have dissamble some moto android phones, but this is my first time with a bravo, I have to change the digitizer because it is broken, but still works, but I dont think I could give a try!
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Do you just plug that in or is that soldered right in? If it is then it'l be tons harder.

Does it come with instructions?

I tell you what..........
I'LL TRY IT! Whenever I can get my phone back and the module. I know a guy that is itching to do this for me.

Junkyardjames87 said:
I'LL TRY IT! Whenever I can get my phone back and the module. I know a guy that is itching to do this for me.
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They are also on ebay. I would this work, it would be awsome!

So was it successful, did the new module come with a clip?
I just brought a yellow lens from china, also wanting to try it out

I really hope someone tries this. If it works I'll give up $30 easy!

I'm not desperate, but I really feel that we will be a long time using our bravos with gingerbread without a working camera.

The Red lens needs diffrent Hardware, you also can not use a Red One in a Defy with Green lens...
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the|gamer said:
The Red lens needs diffrent Hardware, you also can not use a Red One in a Defy with Green lens...
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So basically, you cannot just swap out the module, but the motherboard???
Is there any link to this, I need to find out.
I just brought an amber lens and I'm itching to swap it out. But the housing/clip on the module didn't come with the module I brought.
On the YouTube video, it said do not re-use cam module housing, thing is no one sells it!?

nameite said:
So basically, you cannot just swap out the module, but the motherboard???
Is there any link to this, I need to find out.
I just brought an amber lens and I'm itching to swap it out. But the housing/clip on the module didn't come with the module I brought.
On the YouTube video, it said do not re-use cam module housing, thing is no one sells it!?
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Didn't other people tells us not to unlock, root and put custom roms on our phones? Did that stop us? No. Try reusing the housing. If you didn't break or bend it too much.......
BTW. I haven't had the extra $ to get the module or I would have done it already. Also would anyone be so kind as to give me a guide for disarming the thing? I want to get the kit to make it take dual sims or dual sd cards. Seen one on the internet somewhere some dude had 4 16gb cards in his phone. Think about it. A phone with 64gb worth of storage. wow. That's more than my hd on my computer.

BravoMotorola said:
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/Motorola-Defy-MB525-Camera-p/mot1038910.htm
There you go. This part is $15.29. If someone is brave enough to do this, you will need a t5 torx screwdriver and anything that you think would help.
I'm not really sure that just replacing the cam module will provide a working camera for the MIUI and CM7 Defy ROMs, but it seems a good $30ish project to try! Plus you get a way nicer 5mp cam with 720p video record!
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Something looks a little off here. Take a look at the camera for the bravo and look at the one for defy.
Bravo
Defy
I don't know if the back things make a difference or not. Need more research done here.

Junkyardjames87 said:
Something looks a little off here. Take a look at the camera for the bravo and look at the one for defy.
Bravo
Defy
I don't know if the back things make a difference or not. Need more research done here.
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The pins? Or what? 8x8 pins on Defy module, 8x8 on Bravo. My guess is it'll go right in. So is someone going to try this? I might just do it if nobody else does.
And look here at 0:43 - looks simple enough. Not sure about that camera retainer though.

BravoMotorola said:
The pins? Or what? 8x8 pins on Defy module, 8x8 on Bravo. My guess is it'll go right in. So is someone going to try this? I might just do it if nobody else does.
And look here at 0:43 - looks simple enough. Not sure about that camera retainer though.
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I was talking about the pins on the inside of the block. Not the gold pins around the outside of it. Do they do anything? The Bravo just has three round contact points. The Defy has several receptor looking things.

Found retainer clip! Here. Mobile Site.
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Not mobile site.

Camera Fault - Yellow tint in corners during the shot and in the pics ?

Hey all,
I'm new to the forum. Did a search for this but did not get any hits.
I had an issue with one corner of my screen perpetually displaying a yellow tint while using the main camera that also translated onto the actual pictures.
Didnt see this on the front camera. So I assumed this is a one of hardware issue.
The dealer had the phone replaced 2 days after I bought it with a new piece (Part of their 7 Days - No questions asked guarantee). So far the issue hasn't surfaced.
I've tweeted HTC, but haven't got a response yet. Here is a pic with the tint in the top right corner - pic.twitter.com/epsvQRlP
Has anyone experienced the same issue. I know I've already got a replacement but in case this crops up again. I just wanted to make sure that this is a hardware fault.
Awaiting your thoughts / experiences.
Cheers.

well the yellow tints appeared on mine after 3 days of use. I replaced it with a new one. Thats all i can say, Some other people faced the same issue but told me that they waited for another week and the tints seemed to dissapear after some days.

Can you post a photo indicating the issue?
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Compare the top right corner near the couch and curtains to the bottom left. The room was evenly lit.

I had yellow tint when I used the flash, but this only happened withthe flash returned and got a replacement still yellow not as bad but had gps probs so replaced that on 3rd started off yellow with flash but now when I wait for the metering to settle down seems to be ok so seems third time lucky for me
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Bomaster said:
I had yellow tint when I used the flash, but this only happened withthe flash returned and got a replacement still yellow not as bad but had gps probs so replaced that on 3rd started off yellow with flash but now when I wait for the metering to settle down seems to be ok so seems third time lucky for me
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Lets hope the second times a charm for me. And if there is a recurrence, it happens before the 7 days are up....
I'm interested to know what the experience was like from someone who had the issue go away after a couple of days. It kinda sounds like a break-in period for the camera sensor (similar to buysing a new car).... Has it completely vanished after repeated use ?

Can you take a picture of pure white background e.g. like wall, sky?
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need a couple of pictures to see the problem! one picture doesnt help

My newest one x has this problem, any improvement with the latest ota?

I only see a yellow tint with shots taken indoors. Outside they are just fine.

My One X got the yellow problem when using the led flash. Comparing to my old desire, the flash in one X is more yellowish. It may be able to be rectified through software updates, setting the correct white balance for the LED flash. Hope HTC will solve that through the next update

try camera options, image adjustments, saturation set on -1

got the yellow **** when shooting with flash me too... without flash the pic looks ok, but when flash is on, skin become yellow, very ugly

I think your problem is linked to the white balance which is ****ed up.
I take some screenshots of the camera app phone with different white balance option like bellow:
The photos is taken without flash in front of my wall which is normally white.
Only the auto option is OK for me, the other options shows my wall yellowish or blueish.
I don't know if it is caused by the Eternity's kernel in my phone, have you have the same issues ?
Edit: No I didn't painted my wall in yellow or blue

same problem for me ... when I use flash it shows yellow photo ...I asked in service station but they say this phone is not to take pics in dark.. not ready to change phone.

Ok, I took some pictures outside and I can conclude the white balance option should be used at outdoor condition.
There are a few differences on the white which can be colder or warmer between the photos but not as strong as the screenshots above.

sidd6800 said:
same problem for me ... when I use flash it shows yellow photo ...I asked in service station but they say this phone is not to take pics in dark.. not ready to change phone.
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this is bull****... my sensation is making normal photos with the flash, no yellow ****, its something wrong with the one x...
just installed CM9 to check if it is something about the libs, but the issue is the same with CM9... so its not rom related.

Fightspit said:
Ok, I took some pictures outside and I can conclude the white balance option should be used at outdoor condition.
There are a few differences on the white which can be colder or warmer between the photos but not as strong as the screenshots above.
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tried with different white balance settings, but it does not help the flash issue... :/

Is there a hardware issue with the z1c camera and LED flash?

Good morning,
in a german forum android-hilfe.de there is a thread with pictures taken by a lime z1c with led light - all of the pictures have a yellow shine.
For me this looks like an hardware issues on ALL the z1c devices of the first charges but maybe in the black one the problem is not easy to see.
What do you guys think about that?
Here is the link to the thread with the pictures in first post:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/sony-xp...ei-der-verarbeitung-kamera-bilder-inside.html
Could the be a major issue of this brand new device?

GSMArena complained about some issues with their review model. My white one doesn't have any of these issues, seems fine to me

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I sometimes get a slight blueish shot but that's because of the.auto mode and not a hardware issue. Transfer the image to snapped and increase the warmth. Problem solved
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It is a hardware issue. The problem is the back of the device. It reflects the flash light which then hits the camera lens.
I can create pictures under the same conditions with my Xperia T - but I don't get that fog-effect.

took a shot yesterday from that...."thing" that used to be a snowman. Can't see any fog there? (taken w/ z1c black)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nysbt2o5c55koan/2014-02-03 20.50.16.jpg

toxic_garden said:
took a shot yesterday from that...."thing" that used to be a snowman. Can't see any fog there? (taken w/ z1c black)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nysbt2o5c55koan/2014-02-03 20.50.16.jpg
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Do you have a black Z1c?
A wonderful black server rack:
Here you can see how the Flash brightens up the whole backside:

[email protected] said:
It is a hardware issue. The problem is the back of the device. It reflects the flash light which then hits the camera lens.
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Flat glass can't reflect light into the.camera lense. But just out of curiosity I tested your theory. Covered the back in a matt vinyl. Same effect
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[email protected] said:
Do you have a black Z1c?
A wonderful black server rack:
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Here you can see how the Flash brightens up the whole backside:
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I just took some quick test shots. Can't see any blue gaussian cloud there.
manual mode (no scene) without flash: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpxbmqyxejvejkk/2014-02-04 14.38.05.jpg
manual mode (no scene) with flash: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2ppr5ut8o43poc/2014-02-04 14.38.17.jpg
"intelligent" automatic (a.k.a. "worst descision possible") mode without flash: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aqpkipaae67pmcb/2014-02-04 14.38.34.jpg
automatic with flash: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ue304jdblpwmga9/2014-02-04 14.38.44.jpg

@GR36 as far as I remember my physics classes refelctions can occur between every material Change, eg led-glass->glasscover->air
So a reflection would be possible, see my example:
@toxic_garden
try to take a Picture of the sky at night. Picture should be black. But it is not.
Close Pictures are fine for me, too. But move away 1 or 2m. Please try again.

[email protected] said:
@toxic_garden
try to take a Picture of the sky at night. Picture should be black. But it is not.
Close Pictures are fine for me, too. But move away 1 or 2m. Please try again.
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now i see what it's about!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qn20o1hhjbvywg3/2014-02-04 18.01.55.jpg
Tried various settings, all the same. I still think this might be resolved by new firmwares in the near future. If it would be some kind of hardware issue, wouldn't this also affect pictures taken from less than 3 meters distance like those?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ps4vn2jbpk74q6n/2014-02-04 18.23.33.jpg

Huh.. Seems that I was wrong. Took some automatic "sky at night" pictures - the pictures were blueish. Then I changed into Manual mode and got nice black pics. Seems the reflection is not really strong, but superior mode creates a superior reflection ._.

Hoagi said:
Weak LED flash is not good for capture photo in night time.
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I don't expect full quality pictures at night, but you can definitely see that this is a hardware related problem (reflective back) - this is not what I expected from a 500€ phone. (I still like it, but I hate the fact that the camera fails so badly)

Hoagi said:
Weak LED flash is not good for capture photo in night time.
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This is not the point. Even a weak LED flash must not (!!) mess up the pictures taken.

at least, Sony seems to be aware of the problem now. I'm curious how this will work out. Still thinking of a software related problem. (e.g. better controlling of the LED might help, like changing the time between shutter and light etc.)
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ison-shots/td-p/541415/highlight/false/page/3

Can confirm this issue on mine, though I think its impact is exaggerated. The only normal situation (i.e. not covering the flash with your finger) where you see the issue is on long range dark shots, on which you shouldn't really be using the flash anyway
Edit: took a few example shots.. (ignore the overall quality, didnt bother focusing properly)
Without flash: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6953585/DSC_0050.JPG
With flash: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6953585/DSC_0049.JPG
Flash covered with a few layers of paper: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6953585/DSC_0048.JPG
And for completeness sake, flash covered with finger: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6953585/DSC_0051.JPG (should stress that my finger is not visible over the lens in the viewfinder, the colour here is purely reflection)

Guess what seems to fix the problem....

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Guess what seems to fix the problem....
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seems fair. if its broken, use tape.
any sample pictures with patched camera?

Yes just did them, I think the result supports my idea of the hardware Problem:

I guess we can order this skin
posted here already, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2633881

Nexus 5X Rear Camera Black Dot Problem

Hi,
I bought my Nexus 5X in December, and i was using it with the stock software from Google (locked BL, unmodified, unrooted)(6.0.1 MMP29Q) because i didn't have USB C-A cable and everything was fine.
2 Days ago, i got the cable, and i unlocked the bootloader, rooted the device, and flashed a custom rom (namely Cataclysm)(6.0.1 MMP29P), and everything was still fine, but today, i was shooting some pictures with the camera, and i noticed a black dot in the view, i thought it's dust on the lens, and i tried wiping the lens (from the outside) but it didn't work.
I did some research on the issue, and i found out that many Nexus device users have faced the same problem with previous devices (Nexus 4, Nexus 5), and most feedback says that the problem appeared after updating the camera app, or updating the android version, but there's no actual solution to the issue, since most of the users chose to get a replacement phone.
Demo of the problem:
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I posted the images in full size to notice that the dot isn't completely black, it's kinda transparent, on the blue wall, you notice that you can still see the pattern of the paint through the dot.
Things i tried
Wiping the lens from the outside
Uninstalling the camera app updates
Changing the resolution of the camera
Installing another camera app (Open Camera)
Unrooting/Flashing Stock Factory Image
Also, when i zoom in the dot goes out of the screen, it moves with the zoom.
Anyone has any idea what could be done apart from sending the phone back to the retailer? because my phone will have to cross countries to get there and come back :|

Probably there is something that stick to the inner sideof lens?

rbt2008 said:
Probably there is something that stick to the inner sideof lens?
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But the phone wasn't opened, and it wasn't there before, where could it come from?

Mar.Stein said:
But the phone wasn't opened, and it wasn't there before, where could it come from?
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Could be a defect in production. Contact Google about an exchange.

Illogi.xbone said:
Could be a defect in production. Contact Google about an exchange.
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Thanks mate, but i'm keeping that as a last resort (as mentioned in the post, the phone will have to cross countries to be replaced, and that will take a lot of time).
I still have hope in finding a solution, or for a miracle to happen and the dot to disappear suddenly just like it appeared.
and i still have till next December for the warranty to end, so i'll hope a little longer for now

Mar.Stein said:
Thanks mate, but i'm keeping that as a last resort (as mentioned in the post, the phone will have to cross countries to be replaced, and that will take a lot of time).
I still have hope in finding a solution, or for a miracle to happen and the dot to disappear suddenly just like it appeared.
and i still have till next December for the warranty to end, so i'll hope a little longer for now
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If all else fails you could try to find just the camera flex cable, probably has more attached to it, and either replace it yourself or have someone do that for ya. They aren't too hard to replace but haven't opened this phone up yet.

I had the same thing happen to my N4. Although I couldn't see it, there was some kind of speck on the camera lens. I never did anything about it because it was outside of warranty, and I didn't want to open the phone up.
I returned my first 5x for the same reason, although I couldn't see it on the picture yet. This time, I could physically see the speck of dust just outside of the range of the lens. I didn't want to risk it migrating into view just after the warranty expires.
Most likely, it's coincidence that it happened at the time that you flashed a ROM. If you want to be 100% sure, go back to stock to see if it's still there. The issue that you were referring to that happened to others was more of a black bar, which happened to my N4 if I used the most updated camera app.

Front Camera Focus

Hey guys, I just bought my Sony M5 and one of the reasons that I bought it was because its front camera.
But checking now the quality of the front camera I'm very dissapointed. I think the camera of my phone has a defect.
It doesn't focus. All the pictures are blurry and has no details.
In the picture above I pointed to focus the keyboard. As you can see the letters are all blurry.
Anyone already had or saw this problem?
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Well i don't know what kind of a phone did you use before to have better picture quality than M5,mine has a very focused and clean pictures with Superior Auto settings,i don't take so much selfies but i took a cuple a days ago some and there are really good,perfect actually...
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Well i don't know what kind of a phone did you use before to have better picture quality than M5,mine has a very focused and clean pictures with Superior Auto settings,i don't take so much selfies but i took a cuple a days ago some and there are really good,perfect actually...
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I had a Xperia Z2 but it was stolen. I didn't say that i used to have better picture quality, but ok.
I'm returning my M5 to the store to exchange for a new one.
Looking on the internet the picutes taken with m5 is obvious that my phone came with a bad camera.

jonathangrag said:
I had a Xperia Z2 but it was stolen. I didn't say that i used to have better picture quality, but ok.
I'm returning my M5 to the store to exchange for a new one.
Looking on the internet the picutes taken with m5 is obvious that my phone came with a bad camera.
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Probably the best solution,the pictures are really good on this phone...
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I have the same problem and I have already changed device thanks to the shop in the UK. Not sure what do next.
Both have focus problems. Neither can focus very far away. The front one focuses about 6-12 inches away the rear no more than about 5-10m away.
Close up the photos are razor sharp, otherwise they have increasing levels of out-of-focus issues.
If this is a common fault then maybe we swap to another device. If this is the batch, maybe get Sony to fix?

Did you guys tried manual settings,i was playing a little bit with those settings and i got a more detailed front facing camera pictures...
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pren22 said:
Did you guys tried manual settings,i was playing a little bit with those settings and i got a more detailed front facing camera pictures...
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@pren22
What do you mean? This phone does not support camera2 APIs so there is no manual focus.
If you mean did I try something other than "superior auto" then yes I tried other settings and other apps.
But if you have some samples that you can share, that would be excellent!

I had a back camera focus problem so visited the store to check if it is specific to my device. Demo device on the store had no problem and my devices was replaced. It was not a setting issue cause I tried in every setting. Google camera app also took blurred pictures. Now, the new device has front camera problem, repeatedly focusing making "tik" sound while focusing. Store staff agreed about the problem cause their demo devices' front camera are working fine. But they refused to replace since 5 weeks passed after my purchase. I sent it to the Sony. They refused the problem and said it is normal!. I insist and now waiting for refund. I also purchased a Z5 Compact together with M5 and it died after OTA update. Sony accepted refund for Z5C. These two will be the last Sony smartphones I will ever buy!

gembruce said:
I had a back camera focus problem so visited the store to check if it is specific to my device. Demo device on the store had no problem and my devices was replaced. It was not a setting issue cause I tried in every setting. Google camera app also took blurred pictures. Now, the new device has front camera problem, repeatedly focusing making "tik" sound while focusing. Store staff agreed about the problem cause their demo devices' front camera are working fine. But they refused to replace since 5 weeks passed after my purchase. I sent it to the Sony. They refused the problem and said it is normal!. I insist and now waiting for refund. I also purchased a Z5 Compact together with M5 and it died after OTA update. Sony accepted refund for Z5C. These two will be the last Sony smartphones I will ever buy!
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My front camera also used to make a "tik" sound when i tried to focus.
Now i'm waiting the store send to me a new device. Almost half month without a cell phone.

had my phone back from Sony UK, they did not replace anything, however said the fault was cured. However this is not the case, the pictures are not in focus if held more than a foot away.
Not pleased with Sony at all!

jonathangrag said:
My front camera also used to make a "tik" sound when i tried to focus.
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Just FYI, this "click" noise in front camera seems normal. My unit also makes this little noise on front camera and despite that I can safely say that 90% of time I get perfectly focused photos, regardless of the distance, both cameras working very well...

jonathangrag said:
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Anyone already had or saw this problem?
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Have same issue. But after updating to Marshmallow.
I've already created thread on Sony Mobile support forum.

blackchekist said:
Have same issue. But after updating to Marshmallow.
I've already created thread on Sony Mobile support forum.
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fixed in last update.