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Well i have an upgrade due next month and i have been trawling the web looking at new phones but dont know what to get.
Now ill not be going any bigger than lets says a samsung galaxy s11. Thats about as big as phone as i would get..
Ill be sticking to android but what brand does not bother me.
I have been looking at the htc one x, samsung galaxy s11 and the sony xperia s.
But im open to any option.
One thing the phone must have it good memory. More than the our Wonder has to offer.

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I'm personally digging the HTC One series. As much as I love the One X, it may be too expensive for me and I think it's also on the bigger side that I'm sure you may not like as well.
The One S on the other hand are smaller and I would personally recommend it for you.
However, I don't think that now is the best time to buy an Android phone because there's not much choices out there for the newer generation of phones. Prices may drop when more newer phones are available on the market.
I'm rather interested at what the SGSIII specs will be when it is officially released.
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I'm sure 1GB of RAM would be enough for a lot of multitasking considering that we're doing okay with only 512MB(more like 150MB+) with the SGW. What concerns me though, are the fact that new phones like the HTC One series have non-removable battery and no external SD card slot. It would be a shame if all phones in the future has these.

dirron86 said:
I'm personally digging the HTC One series. As much as I love the One X, it may be too expensive for me and I think it's also on the bigger side that I'm sure you may not like as well.
The One S on the other hand are smaller and I would personally recommend it for you.
However, I don't think that now is the best time to buy an Android phone because there's not much choices out there for the newer generation of phones. Prices may drop when more newer phones are available on the market.
I'm rather interested at what the SGSIII specs will be when it is officially released.
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I'm sure 1GB of RAM would be enough for a lot of multitasking considering that we're doing okay with only 512MB(more like 150MB+) with the SGW. What concerns me though, are the fact that new phones like the HTC One series have non-removable battery and no external SD card slot. It would be a shame if all phones in the future has these.
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Not worried about ram size, was internal memory was on about. But i see what ya mean by size of the phone. Also phone industry is always changing. You could by the best phone in the world today and in two weeks time something better is out. So im not to worried about that but as much as i hate samsungs strategy about there phones they make prob the best ones on the market.
SIII seems to be the flagship phone so and its ment to be released fairly soon..
Also price of the phone does not matter. On bill do most i think ill be payin is 200euro on the bill im on at the minute

My advice would be if you don't need the latest and greatest,go for the GS2.But if you are prepared to wait,hold on till the Samsung announcement next month and they will definitely announce a smaller device along with the GS3...I think they are calling it the I9300...it will have the latest Exynos.Personally,I don't quite trust HTC yet,already there are lots of reports of issues with the One Series phones.Sony is still playing catchup for now,still using last year's hardware.I think for a really good Android experience keep tabs on the next generation superphones from Sammy.
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Google Nexus S is a very good choice with low budget but high performent
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What provider you with snwman......
Like you can see, I am with Tesco Ireland...cheap and cheerful....but, shyte phones!!!
I actually also like cheap and cheerful in phones, so, if I mess up, no big deal....
I am waiting for delivery from Amazon, of T-mobile Vivacity[TMV], for the Missus, it was only about £100...maybe €125....
It is basically a T-mobile branded ZTE Crescent (Blade II)....
but, like with all ZTE, there is an active modding community, on Modaco....
already they have ICS ROM's CM9, and AOKP [Kang]....
ZTE are also going to introduce a big new line of reasonably priced ICS phones this year, so be on the look-out....
Chinese [ZTE] are going to rule the World...OK
My first Android was the original Blade[Orange San Francisco]....and it was, and is, a treasure, so easy to flash and mod, none of this Kies or ODIN stuff, really stock Android......no overlays, like TW.
Keep an eye out for cheap and cheerful Chinese produced phones, is my advice!!
Personally, I like the look and spec of this ZTE Mimosa X
2012 ZTE range

@Irishpancake I'm with meteor at the minute but can switch easily will look for the best deal.
I get impatient so I think I'll have to go try phones out. It's the end of may my contract is up so hopefully something comes up by then.
Be a hard choice. One thing is quad core phones necessary compared to a good duel core phone.

If you're not looking for the latest or fastest, I'd suggest getting something like the Nexus S or anything with Google Experience (or whatever you call it). I think it's worth because they most likely will have full support from google with the frequency of updates and everything.
I also remember reading something about Sony soon releasing source codes of their phones to the modding community so it's also something to take into account at least for me.

[Q] Should I buy the HOX or wait for HOX+

Hi guys,
I am in dilema between keeping the HOX International or waiting for the HOX+ that is coming up shortly. I really like the form factor and the design of the One X series. I abandoned my "religion" in iOS just to convert to Android for my sake.
As we all know that the HOX+ is slightly better than the HOX S720e (more battery and CPU is a bit faster). However, if they both run on JB, do the new changes make any different?
I also hesitate to deal with the defective hardwares of the original HOX. I have checked it carefully, but I am not sure if other issues will come later. I am using it on Straight Talk and love the service. I haven't experienced any slow down during the peak time in Minnesota.
Please help me to weight my decision. Thank you

I really don't think there is going to be a lot of difference between them in real world usage.
Might be worth waiting for the +, and then buying the 'standard' one as the price is bound to take a dive.

Depends if you want a white phone as the One X+ only comes in black (booo!!). There isn't a lot of difference but the increase in battery might be worth a go...

If i were you i would definitely go for HOX+, but it aint worth the price difference.(approx 200$ without packages)
Im actually thinking of exchanging my HOX for HOX+ (dont tell anyone)

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Vcek said:
If i were you i would definitely go for HOX+, but it aint worth the price difference.(approx 200$ without packages)
Im actually thinking of exchanging my HOX for HOX+ (dont tell anyone)
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I have ordered X+, is new, is Super Quick, is JB and maybe all teething cured.

X+ would definitely be the better phone, if only for the bigger battery and better front camera. But I doubt that developers will buy yet another iterative phone to develop on.

I would wait only if you need LTE and the band is right for your network.

Kinda surprised the One X+ isn't LTE but as there is the One XL I'm not surprised

Hey guys, I am intrested in purchasing the HOX depending on how good the updates for the One X are.
*I wanted to know what is the camera like with the 4.1 update or even better still jelly bean
*Also has the video recording frame rate been improved over the rather dull 24fps.
*Finally the battery life how does it fair now with the updates
I was considering the HOX+ but I am concerned about the audio not being as good as or as loud as the orginal HOX for some reason and also I really like the White HOX but things that do appeal to me in the HOX+ are the 64gb memory considering the HOX has 26gb user availble and on my S3 my 32gb card has more than that, plus the built in storage aswell.
Also the fact the battery is bigger on the HOX+ and it uses a slightly newer version of the processor.
Despite this the price of the HOX is tempting as it is £380 on amazon or expansys while the HOX+ is £474 at Clove

wait for the HOX+ . much faster ang more battery.

If I was buying a new phone now, I would probably choose the One X+. But you have to remember that the original One X is likely to get cheaper when the One X+ is released. And to be honest, the real world difference between the One X and the One X+ is really minimal. Maybe the biggest advantage over the original One X is the LTE support but this is only relevant, if you live in the US or parts of Europe where LTE is supported. The processor is just slightly faster and the battery is a bit bigger so they won't give you a significant difference. I would go as far as to say that it would be completely pointless upgrade if you already have the original One X.

Thank you all for your inputs. I admit that I love the white color of the HOX. The "so-so" battery life is not a big problem to me because I have developed a habit to charge the phone whenever I have available access to it.

So saying that, I would like to know how the camera performs on 4.1 update or even jelly bean update
has the video recording been boosted from 24fps and
battery life how good has it got since update I think these will lead me to my decision of which one to purchase tbh.

EddyOS said:
Kinda surprised the One X+ isn't LTE but as there is the One XL I'm not surprised
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I reread the press release and checked wikipedia and yeah, they've done it again; made the models confusing by having LTE and not LTE but with the same name. Maybe. Or whatever.
Oh well, given that LTE is gonna be on different frequencies everywhere, looks like 4G is going to be a bit of a fail for roaming. Probably a good thing considering what they charge for roaming data

I think LTE is the only cheeseburger for ATT subscribers. For those who use Straight Talk, it may not be an option. Correct me if I am wrong

It is funny that a seller already lists HOX+ on sale on eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200827411296?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
The price is a bit unattractive

I would wait for the One X+... the significant difference on the larger battery, and the improved front camera really fix the issues I've had with the One X.. regardless of having my One X rooted with custom rom & kernel. You just can't hack a battery to make it larger. =P Plus I've found that though the front camera is 'good enough' for video chat & photos IF there is enough light.. it really does need to be upped - which they did for the One X+. Everything else is the same, but it is nice to have LTE with the Tegra 3 chip - as long as your network provider has good coverage.

They are about the same just tweaked abit but i would wait just for the 64 gb of memory iv nealy filled my hox with just games and theres more coming out and dont wont to delete anything
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[Q] Lack of G3 ROM development and interest?

I am debating whether to get the G3 or M8 and was leaning towards the G3..but on looking at their respective XDA development pages, on first look there are only 2 custom ROM's being developed for the G3 whilst the M8 seems to have more and they are significantly more active.
This is swaying me more to the M8, though I would rather have the better camera/OIS/laser focus..saying that, it appears too that benchmarks of the G3 vs M8 unfortunately make the M8 a better performer too despite having a higher clocked SOC and more RAM with the EU version.
I was also told in Carphone Warehouse that basically people are buying on brands so the HTC is flying off shelves and nobody is interested in the G3. The guy said that even he wasn't aware of how matched a contender the G3 was to the M8 until a rep from LG came in and showed them. He was really pushing me the M8 also saying that they have had 0 in for repair whilst the whole Samsung range esp the S5/Note 3 are unreliable and plagued with issues such as the battery expanding so it does not fit anymore.
I imagine people are happy with their G3 here but do people recommend the M8 if what I am looking for is active development of more features through regular ROM developments? I currently still have a I-9000 and I have kept it as it does what I want and still has a very active ROM development community.

D0MINO said:
I am debating whether to get the G3 or M8 and was leaning towards the G3..but on looking at their respective XDA development pages, on first look there are only 2 custom ROM's being developed for the G3 whilst the M8 seems to have more and they are significantly more active.
This is swaying me more to the M8, though I would rather have the better camera/OIS/laser focus..saying that, it appears too that benchmarks of the G3 vs M8 unfortunately make the M8 a better performer too despite having a higher clocked SOC and more RAM with the EU version.
I was also told in Carphone Warehouse that basically people are buying on brands so the HTC is flying off shelves and nobody is interested in the G3. The guy said that even he wasn't aware of how matched a contender the G3 was to the M8 until a rep from LG came in and showed them. He was really pushing me the M8 also saying that they have had 0 in for repair whilst the whole Samsung range esp the S5/Note 3 are unreliable and plagued with issues such as the battery expanding so it does not fit anymore.
I imagine people are happy with their G3 here but do people recommend the M8 if what I am looking for is active development of more features through regular ROM developments? I currently still have a I-9000 and I have kept it as it does what I want and still has a very active ROM development community.
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The reason there is no development is that the bootloader is still not unlockable, so there is no way to actually flash a ROM if one was made. This should change once it is, the G2 had plenty of good development and the G3 is outselling it quite a lot.

ChrisM75 said:
The reason there is no development is that the bootloader is still not unlockable, so there is no way to actually flash a ROM if one was made. This should change once it is, the G2 had plenty of good development and the G3 is outselling it quite a lot.
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Ah, I didn't know that..well with my custom ROM today just randomly wiping all my apps and data, 1st time something like that has ever happened and when I was even out and needed my phone, unless the bootloader gets unlocked in the next few days thenI am just going to get the M8 as I don't have time to wait for that. The first thing I would do is root and flash a custom ROM on any new phone so to buy the G3 and be stuck with an inferior stock ROM missing many features compared to my current CM11.2 based I-9000 one will end up annoying me.
Can I ask, how long did it take after launch for the bootloader to be unlocked in the G2 and are LG power user friendly or are they like some companies have been in the past and purposely made it super difficult to unlock the bootloader?

G2 bootloader was never unlocked. They find an exploit to get roms through. The only version so far that has an unlocked bootloader is the T-Mobile version in the United States. Development will come, just going to take a bit longer than other phones. But to me is worth the wait, however I am one of the lucky ones who got the unlocked bootloader from T-Mobile.
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if you go look through the Bootloader Bounty thread in the AT&T subforum, you will see that @utoprime and a few others are pretty optimistic that the bootloader will be unlocked pretty quickly. not a "few days" quickly, but more like a few weeks. and once it is (or once there is a work around (i.e., loki) like with the G2), i would anticipate there being pretty stout development for the G3.
like you, my phone history has all been unlocked devices: OG, GNex, and N5. that being said, i got my G3 first day, and rooted within a couple hours. despite my long-standing flashing history, i haven't really missed custom roms on this thing - it's that nice. i'll have to see, but once L drops, i don't know that custom roms will be that big of a deal - Andy OS has come so far. the main reason i want an unlocked bootloader is to be able to have the OS versions more quickly.
IMO, you can't go wrong with either device. BUT, if you like the G3 better, and are basing your buying decision solely on an unlocked bootloader and a variety of custom roms, personally i would still go with the G3 - it will get there.

huskerkate said:
if you go look through the Bootloader Bounty thread in the AT&T subforum, you will see that @utoprime and a few others are pretty optimistic that the bootloader will be unlocked pretty quickly. not a "few days" quickly, but more like a few weeks. and once it is (or once there is a work around (i.e., loki) like with the G2), i would anticipate there being pretty stout development for the G3.
like you, my phone history has all been unlocked devices: OG, GNex, and N5. that being said, i got my G3 first day, and rooted within a couple hours. despite my long-standing flashing history, i haven't really missed custom roms on this thing - it's that nice. i'll have to see, but once L drops, i don't know that custom roms will be that big of a deal - Andy OS has come so far. the main reason i want an unlocked bootloader is to be able to have the OS versions more quickly.
IMO, you can't go wrong with either device. BUT, if you like the G3 better, and are basing your buying decision solely on an unlocked bootloader and a variety of custom roms, personally i would still go with the G3 - it will get there.
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Thanks for ur reply...I just came across this which seems hopeful but obviously we know that these things are always faster through unofficial means. I guess I am looking at these phones as being able to last up to 5 years like my I9000 as I am not a conspicuous consumption kinda person and if something can still be updated/relevant and keep doing the job then I don't see the need to spend hundreds to replace it every year just to keep up with fashion.
A few things more.
After having a Super AMOLED screen for the past 5 yrs and being very happy with the vibrancy of the colours how does the G3 compare (and M8 too if you have used it)?
Is the G3 comfortable to use one handed and is there a tendancy/risk of it being able to drop out of your hand due to the size? This was another biggie for me as a colleague has a Note 3 which is 0.2" bigger and he complains that it's often awkward to put in pockets and handle. Tbh I have never been interested in a phablet nor something 1.5" bigger than my i9000 causing pocket fitting issues so if it was just a little smaller (~5.2") then I would have been sold on it. The M8 seemed in store to be just the right size and quite comfortable to hold especially with the weight, the G3 was just on the cusp of being too big and ok but noticeably lighter and I'm wondering if this would make it more likely to slip/drop. Obviously I would get a case for it but then that will increase it's size further too.

If you're wanting the phone to last 5 years I wouldn't go with a non replaceable battery like the M8's. The G3's battery is replaceable.

I have the D855 32GB and all I can say is I'm very satisfied even running on stock...
Had the N7 2013, it was awesome, but the G3 is just on a different level...
Once the bootloader is unlocked and custom roms are available, this will fly leaving the rest...

D0MINO said:
Thanks for ur reply...I just came across this which seems hopeful but obviously we know that these things are always faster through unofficial means. I guess I am looking at these phones as being able to last up to 5 years like my I9000 as I am not a conspicuous consumption kinda person and if something can still be updated/relevant and keep doing the job then I don't see the need to spend hundreds to replace it every year just to keep up with fashion.
A few things more.
After having a Super AMOLED screen for the past 5 yrs and being very happy with the vibrancy of the colours how does the G3 compare (and M8 too if you have used it)?
Is the G3 comfortable to use one handed and is there a tendancy/risk of it being able to drop out of your hand due to the size? This was another biggie for me as a colleague has a Note 3 which is 0.2" bigger and he complains that it's often awkward to put in pockets and handle. Tbh I have never been interested in a phablet nor something 1.5" bigger than my i9000 causing pocket fitting issues so if it was just a little smaller (~5.2") then I would have been sold on it. The M8 seemed in store to be just the right size and quite comfortable to hold especially with the weight, the G3 was just on the cusp of being too big and ok but noticeably lighter and I'm wondering if this would make it more likely to slip/drop. Obviously I would get a case for it but then that will increase it's size further too.
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I switched from the M8 to the G3 (S3 > M7 > Note 3 > N5 > M8 > G3) size wise, the G3 is comfortable, easy to hold and relatively light.
Screen wise, you definitely notice the difference. Colours are more vibrant and bright on the G3 IMO, I don't miss my M8, not saying the M8 was a bad device it was actually a very very good device.
There isn't a lot of differences between flagship devices these days hardware is almost identical it's really cosmetic, I switched as I got bored of the M8 and I'm already bored of the G3.. Just waiting to see what else comes along before I maybe look at the OPO.

radicalisto said:
I switched from the M8 to the G3 (S3 > M7 > Note 3 > N5 > M8 > G3) size wise, the G3 is comfortable, easy to hold and relatively light.
Screen wise, you definitely notice the difference. Colours are more vibrant and bright on the G3 IMO, I don't miss my M8, not saying the M8 was a bad device it was actually a very very good device.
There isn't a lot of differences between flagship devices these days hardware is almost identical it's really cosmetic, I switched as I got bored of the M8 and I'm already bored of the G3.. Just waiting to see what else comes along before I maybe look at the OPO.
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Lol a man very hard to please! I'm guessing you have more money than the average person as most would not be able to afford buying a new flagship every time they were bored of it!
I was thinking of the OPO but it appears inferior to the M8 and G3 from the reviews I have read of it except perhaps in price, but if you want to lose 32GB internal memory and gain an SD card slot then that may be worth it. Tbh, if you are fine with getting a grey import you can get any phone for about the same price as the OPO.

What holds me back from the Opo, besides not having an invite, is the lack of support through my carrier(T-mobile). If my G3 refuses to turn on one day, I can get one overnighted to me from them. If i have the Opo, and it does the same, I move looking at a much longer period of time.
I'm also not willing to pay for an invite. If i had one, then I'd probably buy one because I do miss the stock experience.
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I have the tmobile g3, and i heard the bootloaders were unlocked when u buy them..im rooted but i have no custom rom, so im not totally sure if its true or not, i believe i seen it on here somewhere..

Zachary droid said:
I have the tmobile g3, and i heard the bootloaders were unlocked when u buy them..im rooted but i have no custom rom, so im not totally sure if its true or not, i believe i seen it on here somewhere..
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T-Mobile has an unlocked Bootloader yes. Check out the T-Mo section here.

Does anyone know if the cat 6 f460 can install the same roms as the US versions or will it need separate development?

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T-Mobile has an unlocked Bootloader yes. Check out the T-Mo section here.
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So basically only a G3 that T-Mobile (US?) has branded and loaded with their own unlocked bootloader is able to take ROMs without any exploits at the moment. A stock G3 fresh from the LG factory does not and is not able to have an unlocked bootloader on it ATM?
I'm guessing then that means that it IS possible and LG can unlock the bootloader if they want, but for us lot, someone has to find out how to find an exploit in the blocked bootloader to load the required content from the T-Mobile firmware on to non T-Mobile devices?

tospace2006 said:
Does anyone know if the cat 6 f460 can install the same roms as the US versions or will it need separate development?
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Ah, I didn't realise there was an updated/premium G3 too. Is it any worth getting this one over the G3 as the specs look like they are far superior but I don't know how realistic it is that really affordable 4K TV's will be mainstream in even perhaps 2 yrs time to be more than just a marketing gimmick for the F460.

D0MINO said:
Thanks for ur reply...I just came across this which seems hopeful but obviously we know that these things are always faster through unofficial means. I guess I am looking at these phones as being able to last up to 5 years like my I9000 as I am not a conspicuous consumption kinda person and if something can still be updated/relevant and keep doing the job then I don't see the need to spend hundreds to replace it every year just to keep up with fashion.
A few things more.
After having a Super AMOLED screen for the past 5 yrs and being very happy with the vibrancy of the colours how does the G3 compare (and M8 too if you have used it)?
Is the G3 comfortable to use one handed and is there a tendancy/risk of it being able to drop out of your hand due to the size? This was another biggie for me as a colleague has a Note 3 which is 0.2" bigger and he complains that it's often awkward to put in pockets and handle. Tbh I have never been interested in a phablet nor something 1.5" bigger than my i9000 causing pocket fitting issues so if it was just a little smaller (~5.2") then I would have been sold on it. The M8 seemed in store to be just the right size and quite comfortable to hold especially with the weight, the G3 was just on the cusp of being too big and ok but noticeably lighter and I'm wondering if this would make it more likely to slip/drop. Obviously I would get a case for it but then that will increase it's size further too.
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with 3 gig RAM, an sdcard, and the 801, i think the G3 will be serviceable as a daily driver for a few years - i don't know about 5 years, given how fast tech changes, tho.
as for the screen, if you really like Super AMOLED, you might be initially disappointed in the G3. with AMOLED, some people call the colors "vibrant," others call it "over saturated." it all depends on personal preference. for me, the G3 colors are more "true," and the screen is outstanding. i found Super AMOLED (like the GS5) to be too saturated, and almost cartoonish. but, again, its a matter of preference. i think that 4k resolution is going to be the standard going forward, and you are going to see apps becoming optimized for that. so, in terms of relevance beyond a year or two, i think the G3 is ahead of the curve, so to speak, and that the M8 (as with just about any HTC device ever made) will become pseudo-obsolete/outdated in a year or so.
the size of the G3 is fine. with the lack of bezel, it is pretty easy to use one handed, and i'm never concerned with it slipping out of my hand (but, i do have large hands). it fits comfortably in my pocket, is easy to get out, and feels light and slim in the hand. you do have to do a little "hand shimmying" to get from the top of the screen to the bottom, but i don't find it troublesome at all. tbh, if the screen was just 0.2" smaller, it would be perfect for me. but all other things considered, that's a pretty minor gripe.
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So basically only a G3 that T-Mobile (US?) has branded and loaded with their own unlocked bootloader is able to take ROMs without any exploits at the moment. A stock G3 fresh from the LG factory does not and is not able to have an unlocked bootloader on it ATM?
I'm guessing then that means that it IS possible and LG can unlock the bootloader if they want, but for us lot, someone has to find out how to find an exploit in the blocked bootloader to load the required content from the T-Mobile firmware on to non T-Mobile devices?
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correct, TMo is the only variant with an unlocked bootloader, and it came from the factory that way. but, again, the devs are pretty confident that they are close to unlocking the bootloader for the other variants. this device has been getting a lot of attention, and sales have been pretty robust. i think the demand is there, and we WILL see custom roms for the G3.
D0MINO said:
Ah, I didn't realise there was an updated/premium G3 too. Is it any worth getting this one over the G3 as the specs look like they are far superior but I don't know how realistic it is that really affordable 4K TV's will be mainstream in even perhaps 2 yrs time to be more than just a marketing gimmick for the F460.
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so far, the "premium" G3 has only been announced in Korea, and the ONLY difference is it has an 805 processor, instead of the 801. from the reading i have done, it appears that the ONLY reason LG put in the 805 was to gain access to the cat6 LTE bandwidth. if you are in a market that does not have cat6 (like in the States), the prevailing speculation is that the "premium" G3 won't even be made available by LG. if it is made available, it probably won't be until the end of the year or after the first of the year. a lot of people have been clamoring for and 805 version of the G3, because it supposedly has a faster and more efficient graphics processor. i really don't do any gaming on my device, so that's not a huge concern for me.

huskerkate said:
with 3 gig RAM, an sdcard, and the 801, i think the G3 will be serviceable as a daily driver for a few years - i don't know about 5 years, given how fast tech changes, tho.
as for the screen, if you really like Super AMOLED, you might be initially disappointed in the G3. with AMOLED, some people call the colors "vibrant," others call it "over saturated." it all depends on personal preference. for me, the G3 colors are more "true," and the screen is outstanding. i found Super AMOLED (like the GS5) to be too saturated, and almost cartoonish. but, again, its a matter of preference. i think that 4k resolution is going to be the standard going forward, and you are going to see apps becoming optimized for that. so, in terms of relevance beyond a year or two, i think the G3 is ahead of the curve, so to speak, and that the M8 (as with just about any HTC device ever made) will become pseudo-obsolete/outdated in a year or so.
the size of the G3 is fine. with the lack of bezel, it is pretty easy to use one handed, and i'm never concerned with it slipping out of my hand (but, i do have large hands). it fits comfortably in my pocket, is easy to get out, and feels light and slim in the hand. you do have to do a little "hand shimmying" to get from the top of the screen to the bottom, but i don't find it troublesome at all. tbh, if the screen was just 0.2" smaller, it would be perfect for me. but all other things considered, that's a pretty minor gripe.
correct, TMo is the only variant with an unlocked bootloader, and it came from the factory that way. but, again, the devs are pretty confident that they are close to unlocking the bootloader for the other variants. this device has been getting a lot of attention, and sales have been pretty robust. i think the demand is there, and we WILL see custom roms for the G3.
so far, the "premium" G3 has only been announced in Korea, and the ONLY difference is it has an 805 processor, instead of the 801. from the reading i have done, it appears that the ONLY reason LG put in the 805 was to gain access to the cat6 LTE bandwidth. if you are in a market that does not have cat6 (like in the States), the prevailing speculation is that the "premium" G3 won't even be made available by LG. if it is made available, it probably won't be until the end of the year or after the first of the year. a lot of people have been clamoring for and 805 version of the G3, because it supposedly has a faster and more efficient graphics processor. i really don't do any gaming on my device, so that's not a huge concern for me.
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The LG Prime is being launched in Europe at the IFA next month.
http://mobile.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/...tylus-smartphones-pegged-for-ifa-2014-launch/

Batfink33 said:
The LG Prime is being launched in Europe at the IFA next month.
http://mobile.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/...tylus-smartphones-pegged-for-ifa-2014-launch/
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i did not know that (obviously). cool! maybe the States will actually see a G3 Prime...

huskerkate said:
i did not know that (obviously). cool! maybe the States will actually see a G3 Prime...
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Yeah, I've read rumours it will be launching worldwide. Who knows.

what's the next phone

so I'm looking to upgrade from the s3 and was wondering what the next phone would be? Are people sticking with Samsung devices or has anybody branched out to LG or HT has anybody branched out to LG or HTC?

gvsukids said:
so I'm looking to upgrade from the s3 and was wondering what the next phone would be? Are people sticking with Samsung devices or has anybody branched out to LG or HT has anybody branched out to LG or HTC?
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yup. went from my beloved-can-not-kill S3 to a htconem8. way too freakin much money , though they are cheaper now. fast as heck but poor battery life without tweaking. (heavy user here). if had to do all over , i swear i would get another S3 from online or swappa , etc. just my opinion.
"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"

Had my hands on a T999v and s3 for a while. Sold them or gave them to family. Just slapped together two broken i747m's to make one good i747m
I've been using an Alcatel Idol 2s for a bit and now I'm using a Nexus 4. Also have a Note 2 as my travelling phone.

I agree with @mrrocketdog about thinking hard about picking up a used sgs3/i747 if the need arises.
Based only on reading a review or two, for a new phone I would give serious consideration to an LG V10, once the price drops.

If not for my current phone, lg g3, I would look at the Moto X Pure Edition if you don't mind a big screen. Baseline starts at $399, fully unlocked and works on all carriers (CDMA like Verizon even), and Moto is supporting unlocking bootloaders.
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I liked what I read about the Moto X Pure/Style.
Having had the GalaxyS Captivate as my first Android and still using the SGS3 I like having a removable battery and an external sdcard slot. Those specs are a large part of what attracts me to the V10.
The phone also has 4GB of LPDDR3 RAM and 64 GB of internal storage. The phone also has a micro-sd card slot for expansion up to 2TB of storage. Thankfully, the V10 also retains a removable battery with a capacity of 3000 mAh as well as support for Quick Charge 2.0.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/lg-announces-the-v10-dual-front-camera-dual-display/

The lack of removable battery on the Moto is the only thing that gave me pause. Memory is expandable so it would not be so bad. All things considered, phone options with removable batteries are getting slim. I personally hate it because while I understand it helps keep the phones slimmed down some, it also means no spare backups or simple replacement of a defective or worn out battery.
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HTC One M9 - is the one of the fastest smartphones?

Hello,
I'm looking for a most responsive phone to buy. AnTuTu scores says one - reaching over 100k points makes M9 one of the fastest machine on the market. All about the phone is perfect for me, but comparison tests has dissapointed me at all, p.g.:
vs Note 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1tS1ssEivY
vs LG G4 and S6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aHh0yJGayA
What does it come from? M9 has Snap 810 and just 5", why is it slower on the tests and less responsive?

That's true. My M9 which android 6.0, has antutu scores over 115,000 points.

All videos I found on YT showed no more than 60k points and that the M9 is less responsive than another phones (G Flex2, S6, G4, OnePlus One! not even Two!)? And the questions are: why, is it true?

Brtnsk said:
All videos I found on YT showed no more than 60k points and that the M9 is less responsive than another phones (G Flex2, S6, G4, OnePlus One! not even Two!)? And the questions are: why, is it true?
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Im not even gona watch those videos, if you put S6 in the list as "more responsive", than all other test means nothing also..
S6 is and was always less responsive than HTC's phones due badly coded Touch Wiz and lots of bloatware Samsung puts in their phones.

well, this is not my opinion, it's just showed on almost all videos i watched

Brtnsk said:
well, this is not my opinion, it's just showed on almost all videos i watched
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Those benchmarks and test are not to be trusted just like that, S6 is maybe better when u run empty phone, but when you will fill up with your apps and settings, than hes the one that starts to fall back behind HTC, and i see this every day at work when i help my customers setup their new phones like S6/Edge.
Also, all those videos are old, my M9 scores 120k on AnTuTu now, and speed/battery life is amazing with android M.
Thats all i can say to you.

thank you for such a reliable information. do you run stock soft or ViperOneM9?

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thank you for such a reliable information. do you run stock soft or ViperOneM9?
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I run Viper ofcourse :laugh:
But, stock roms are as close to it, i did some minor improvements and merged some system stuff from andorid 6.0.1 which improves overall performance a bit more (would say around 5%+).

ivicask said:
I run Viper ofcourse :laugh:
But, stock roms are as close to it, i did some minor improvements and merged some system stuff from andorid 6.0.1 which improves overall performance a bit more (would say around 5%+).
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nice. is there any faster phone on the market besides M9 than?

I had a G4. but still has the s6, Oneplus2 and the M9.
the fastest for me is the M9, OP2 and G4. slowest is the S6 (well its fast at first but touchwiz sucks big time).
SD810 and 808 devices are so good esp when you start customizing them and tweaking them at your hearts content. or just by unleashing their full potential.
my favs are the M9 and the G4. OP2 is a so-so for me. I'm planning to sell the s6 and OP2 soon. I just sold my G4 the other day due to the lack of support from LG for bootloader unlock. on the S6 and OP2, development isnt that good. on the M9 Im really happy with sense and sometimes I go aosp/cm based roms. so M9 will be a keeper for me. I love this phone a lot. I'm still thinking if I should s-off. lol I remeber buying the S-Off for my m8, a week after I sold it. rofl

Abaddon said:
I have an s6, Oneplus2, G4 and the M9.
the fastest for me is the M9, OP2 and G4. slowest is the S6
esp when you start customizing them and tweaking them at your hearts content. or just by unleashing their full potential atm.
my favs are the M9 and the G4. OP2 is a so-so for me. Im planning to sell the s6 and Op2 soon. I just sold my G4 the other day. so M9 will be a keeper for me. I love this phone.
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thanks for your valuable opinion. one more thing guys. i would like to buy a refurbished phone from China, should i expect any troubles with software and hardware incompability? i haven't found any distiction between the models.

from where in china are you buying? just be cautious for fakes. and buy the M9/M9u not the M9s. you shouldn't have any problems.
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Abaddon said:
from where in china are you buying? just be cautious for fakes. and buy the M9/M9u not the M9s. you shouldn't have any problems.
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
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wanted to buy one from aliexpress.com, a regular M9 model (~300$).
no matter right now, I've just bought a new model with 24 months warranty for 370$, was it a good price?

Brtnsk said:
wanted to buy one from aliexpress.com, a regular M9 model (~300$).
no matter right now, I've just bought a new model with 24 months warranty for 370$, was it a good price?
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that's a good price + the 24mos warranty. good one

can't wait to install ViperOneM9 on it. thank you for your help guys.