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Tell me guys.
Went from a tytn2 to a Raphael...
Should I go for the Hero or TP2 ?
Never used a Hero.
The TP2 from T-Mobile is hands-down the best WM-based device I've ever had my paws on. You can pry it from my cold, dead fingers.....
Macedon2000 said:
Should I go for the Hero or TP2 ?
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Do you want a Windows Mobile phone with a brilliant physical keyboard and lots of neat business features that also does a reasonable job of multimedia, or do you want an Android-powered, multimedia-oriented device with a capacitive touchscreen that supports multi-touch, and which also does a reasonable job of business-oriented stuff? The two are really very different. It would make more sense to be having trouble deciding between a Hero an iPhone - they're much more similar in philosophy (IMO).
i dint really get the difference between the two types of screens...capacitive and resistive.
I played a bit with an iPhone 3GS today and it felt really good...i like the iPhone because everything just works... but I got bored after 3min of playing with it.
just the thought of not being able to flash new roms etc. makes me puke.
I like my RAPH but i would like a bigger screen, better(faster/smoother) handling of multimedia(pics/music/video) like iPod on iPhone, sort of.
so its down to winmo or android.
I was also thinking weather to go for hero or the touch pro2 but the touch pro2 has an amazing keyboard and watching movies on it look pretty impressive and i dont mind it not using a 3.5 mm jack as i use a stereo bluetooth headset. So i went for the touch pro2 and WOW im glad i did, im writing this from my touch pro 2 now.
It also has a reasonably good stock rom, the stock rom on my wizard was hopeless and if it wasnt for xda-developers i would never of had it for so long.
TP2 definetly, because the hardware keyboard that for me is a must!
The telephone conferencing and voice features are really good. Easy to setup and to use. Sound is good too. Credit to HTC for adding features that are fundamental to a what a good business phone should have.
I really don't like the way the Hero looks. Just for that I would go with the TP2.
Macedon2000 said:
i dint really get the difference between the two types of screens...capacitive and resistive.
I played a bit with an iPhone 3GS today and it felt really good...i like the iPhone because everything just works... but I got bored after 3min of playing with it.
just the thought of not being able to flash new roms etc. makes me puke.
I like my RAPH but i would like a bigger screen, better(faster/smoother) handling of multimedia(pics/music/video) like iPod on iPhone, sort of.
so its down to winmo or android.
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capacitive screens are designed for finger-friendly touches. when you touch the screen with your finger, the press generates an electric stimulus that the phone reads as a press. capacitive screens can't use normal styli, so there is a loss in accuracy
resistive screens are designed for accuracy, due to the use of styli
I got the Tmobile Touch Pro2 and I am very happy with it - awesome screen size and acceptable thickness for a fullsize keyboard. hulu.com on skyfire for this screensize totally rocks. I have heard that the flash browser of Hero is slow, but then again - it hasn't been XDA-fied yet (not that I know of, anyway).
But I am in the same boat as you - want the Hero too!!!
Good news is that I have a work ATT phone that will be up for renewal in October, hopefully when the Hero comes in!
Can't really help you with your choice except say - go to the Tmobile store and see the TMobile touch pro2 in person.
And don't count out the diamond2 either.
It truly is a great time to have HTC shares....hmmm maybe I should be looking into that! lol!
poppinpengawen said:
capacitive screens are designed for finger-friendly touches. when you touch the screen with your finger, the press generates an electric stimulus that the phone reads as a press. capacitive screens can't use normal styli, so there is a loss in accuracy
resistive screens are designed for accuracy, due to the use of styli
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Resistive screens need to be pressed quite hard, while capacitive ones only need to be touched lightly. Capacitive screens tend to be more responsive, so they will probably track your finger better when scrolling, and there's less likely to be any ambiguity about whether you've pressed something or not. But the most significant difference (aside from the fact that you can't use a stylus with a capacitive screen) is that a capacitive screen, given appropiate OS support, can support multi-touch - that is, it can detect being pressed in more than one place at once.
So, on the Hero and iPhone if you're running (say) Google Earth, you can rotate the map by putting your thumb and forefinger on the screen and twisting your hand. You can also zoom in and out by putting thumb and forefinger either side of a section of the screen, then moving them together or apart. This is much more convenient and intuitive than the TP2's zoom bar.
Macedon2000 said:
I played a bit with an iPhone 3GS today and it felt really good...i like the iPhone because everything just works... but I got bored after 3min of playing with it.
just the thought of not being able to flash new roms etc. makes me puke.
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A jail-broken iPhone is actually pretty flexible.
I almost bought an iPhone rather than a TP2. It was really only the cost that put me off in the end. (Not the absolute cost, but it's too expensive for what it is). The user-interface design on an iPhone really is beautiful - it's not just that everything works, it's that everything works intuitively and quickly and neatly. The lack of a physical keyboard was also a problem for me (as I'm rather clumsy and have short, fat fingers) but the on-screen keyboard on an iPhone is the best I've seen; and the lower resolution of the screen (on iPhone or Hero) niggles a bit - for mobile web-browsing the extra screen res on a TP2 or Diamond2 really makes a difference for reading small text.
The call quality is also very good on a TP2 - I need phones to be clear and loud as I'm partially deaf. People hear you very clearly on the TP2 as well, thanks to the high-quality soise-cancelling microphones.
So I just picked up a LG Optimus 7 today. Nice piece of hardware, liking WP7 so far.
One thing that practically killed it for me, though, is that when you tilt the phone to use the landscape keyboard, you get two bands on either side of the screen which sandwich the keyboard between them.
This means you effectively lose somewhere around 10%-20% of the screen's width, and the landscape keyboard isn't really a whole lot wider than the portrait one.
Has anybody found a way to alter this? It may seem petty, but the keyboard in landscape mode is just too small for me. This phone comes with a 3.8" screen, yet the landscape keyboard is basically smaller than on my wife's 3.3" Samsung Wave.
as far as i can see, the notifications bar (the top one) goes wider, and the buttom bar also goes wider, when you turn it. which is why it does that. though i agree that it's a bit annoying. don't think there is a way around this at present.
Hopefully there is, the landscape keyboard is barely wider than the portrait keyboard. Completely stupid decision. Its really the only thing keeping me from WP7 right now. I really can't go from my massive landscape keyboard on my Galaxy S to this little itty thing.
I'm interested in the Motorola bluetooth keyboard, but I've yet to see it in person. I'm curious if some kind soul could photograph theirs in relation to their Xoom... maybe side-by-side so that I can get a sense of how wide and long it comparison, or at least describe how the two compare in size.
I thank ye.
Here ya go! I can snap some more pics if you have any other questions.
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5j0Wu5aWgVuowV0uRtmJj_33b9kyUtk9JEAEd10goeA?feat=directlink
How do you turn the keyboard on/off? Want to make sure it's safe to throw in a messenger bag without accidentally turning it on.
There is a power button on the keyboard. Just hold it down a few seconds.
Is recessed a bit just below the top of the keyboard. I think it would be pretty tough to turn it on in a bag. Also the manual claims 6 months of active use and one year standby on just 2 AA batteries.
I created this post using the keyboard BTW
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I initially purchased this keyboard but was unimpressed by build quality and typing feel, i decided to return it and use my amazingly good Microsoft BT keyboard that i got for around 30 dollars. In my opinion it is smaller, more responsive, better built and definitely better for straight typing on.
Only huge downside is the lack of android dedicated keys as on the moto kb, but even a lot of those didn't work.
I'm hoping that android's interaction with human interface devices (mice even!?) improves over time, because I am super close to being able to just use my Xoom when I am out in the field and leave my laptop behind.
I'm interested in other keyboards used on the Adam from others who have their Adams delivered already. I'm particularly interested in Swype / SlideIT and Swiftkey. Any other replacement keyboards people have used that worked well on the tablet I'd be interested to hear about as well.
I've been using thumb keyboard. Its pretty good for the tablet.
Tenny said:
I've been using thumb keyboard. Its pretty good for the tablet.
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I agree. I posted a review of the keyboard not too long ago. I like it a lot. It's almost perfect, just lacking multi-touch chording.
I am currently using SlideIT, and it works very well. Quick for writing out text in in swype mode (much better than I expected). Only drawback is that it still feels the need to take up the entire screen when you're writing, like on your phone.
I downloaded and have been using the new FlexT9 keyboard by Nuance. It is every bit as good as Swipe... and has the added bonus of the built in voice to text functionality of Naturally Dragon (by Nuance).
It is a bit pricey at 4.99... but worth every penny.
thumb keyboard ftw. Best keyboard for a tablet hands down. also has an option so that it prevents fullscreen mode :-D
+1 for thumb keyboard
Wow, thumb keyboard is fantastic! Even just the regular keyboard mode is so much nicer thanks to the keys being a decent size. Cheers for the recommendation!
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Hi all, is there any alternative stylus pen that same features but cheaper but yet still got quality, bcoz the original mi pen too xpensive thanks
https://tinyurl.com/4sz289wk
Works PRO Stylus for Xiaomi pad 5 High Accuracy Sensitive in Compact Form for Touch Screens [3 Pack-Black] on Amazon for $12.99I haven't used it but have placed an order. Lets see how it works
No alternative. They are all crap and will 100% end up in the trash... No integration with the software at all.
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https://tinyurl.com/4sz289wk
Works PRO Stylus for Xiaomi pad 5 High Accuracy Sensitive in Compact Form for Touch Screens [3 Pack-Black] on Amazon for $12.99I haven't used it but have placed an order. Lets see how it works
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That looks like a capacitive pen! .. then of course it's 'compatible' with Xiaomi Pad 5 or anything else! I bought a cheap capacitive pen for my Pad 5 Pro with a GSI, but it's not usable at all. I can't write without palm rejection function.
My understanding is Xiaomi uses their own digital pen technology and there is no compatible one out there. So if you want to use a GSI, you are stuck!
There are palm rejection gloves out there, not sure if they'll work as intended though.
Yeah I know about gloves... but I never liked capacitive pens. My hand (paw) is so dumb and useless! But I'm sure lots of people have a better control in their hand.