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[Q] 10 mins of "assasins creed" play make my phone cry (really hot device).

That's all; once I play like 10 mins with the new "Assassins Creed HD" game my HTC Trophy gets really hot... The temperature becomes so high so I have to stop play because looks like if the device were to die in heat.
Anyone else experiencing the same problem?

on a hd7 I have no problems , not getting hot at all even with wifi on .

Thank you for your fast response ceesheim.
So it must be just my phone or maybe the Trophy model...
Maybe I did the bad choice and I had to get the HD7 model instead. (never had problems with temperature on my HD2 massplaying anything).
But now the problem is serious, that game increases really a lot the temp on my device. I must say that I have wifi and bluetooth on the whole day (massive use of them) and maybe it can be related to the problem.
I will check without them on, anyway is scary how heat it becomes once I play it, and is strange because it doesn’t happens with other games like "The harvest"

Johny1969 said:
Thank you for your fast response ceesheim.
So it must be just my phone or maybe the Trophy model...
Maybe I did the bad choice and I had to get the HD7 model instead. (never had problems with temperature on my HD2 massplaying anything).
But now the problem is serious, that game increases really a lot the temp on my device. I must say that I have wifi and bluetooth on the whole day (massive use of them) and maybe it can be related to the problem.
I will check without them on, anyway is scary how heat it becomes once I play it, and is strange because it doesn’t happens with other games like "The harvest"
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I only had wifi on , bluetooth and gps was off , you could try that .

the phone shouldn't get hot, ever. maybe be a defective battery. ask for a replacement. free, of course.

ohgood said:
the phone shouldn't get hot, ever.
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eeeh don't know about that one. Phones get hot with extended usage of cpu or antenna. ****, your game consoles or pc's get hot when playing games...and they have fans...why wouldn't your fanless phone not?
You've never been on a long call and noticed that unit was hot by the time you got off?

I agree with ohgood, a phone shouldn't get hot, even after long play, unless overclocked or modified in any way. And 10 mins not an excuse at all. I never experienced anything like that and my wife plays 3D games on the iphone for hours, it just gets a bit warm. My Fuze is not even warm but all I play is Solitaire City / Chess. However, my definition of hot may be different from OP.

It is possible for a phone to get hot whilst its being used.
It might be a battery issue though as its mainly the battery that will get hot before any anything else.

Might want to check the battery.
Or get a replacement. Free. There should be no reason as for it to get hot... Although, my phone gets hot when using Wi-Fi Tether, but that's about it.
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Getting hot

Anyone else's getting very hot. I already returned two rezounds for getting up to 150now my nex is up to 111 right now and all I was doing was playing around on Facebook. Most of the heat feels like it is on the top half of the phone and the screen gets extremely hot
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Is your brightness up high? And also are you charging it while playing on it
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Charging now wasn't then and yeah I keep brightness up otherwise the screen is way too grainy. You should be able to use your screens top levels without scolding your fingers lol just curious if this is a common thing or If I have to yet again get another phone
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My phone heats up on the top part like yours but mainly when I use it while it charges or if I keep the screen awake for about 20-30+ min straight.
Edit: just like your laptop or TV or psp or any other electronic device lol
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Not seen any issues on mine so far and it doesn't get as hot as my iPhone 4S when that is charging and/or using bluetooth for making calls.

yeh my phone gets quite warm also , crazy thing is when it gets warm im sure it affects the colour temp of the screen.

Mine gets hots quickly when I play Riptide a lot.

I noticed this too, but. I don't feel it since its just the top half and my hands are gripping the bottom half. I do feel it when I stick it in my pocket and my thigh gets really warm.
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Mine heats up at the top back only when I'm using mobile data to do stuff. But I can use wifi all day with top brightness with no overheat. Stupid.
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Sounds like she's gettin hot for most people in the same spot. This over heating phone **** is pissing me off
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like right now. I literally just turned my phone on 5 minutes ago and am on wifi and I can feel the top getting hot
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when I got my phone a few weeks ago (GSM 4.0.1) my phone easily warms up especially at the back near the camera area. After manually updating to 4.0.2, I really noticed it was gone. Now even I am watching youtube videos for more than 20-30mins my phone doesn't warm up even a bit unlike before i got it on stock 4.0.1 in which just turning on a wifi connection and gps warms the back of my nexus without running an app.

Delldorado said:
Sounds like she's gettin hot for most people in the same spot. This over heating phone **** is pissing me off
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Define overheating. Because i think the phone does quite well for how much horsepower is under the hood. Mine gets warm doing this, that and the other. The only time i was seriously concerned was watching a netflix movie over mhl and really i was really only concerned about the battery temp than the phone. The phone and its components are a big step up from phones 3 years ago. People used to whine about phones getting warm when 3g heated them up and 3g was becoming the norm. Fast forward to today and there are more powerful components packed into less space, and less ventilated at that. If you dont like your phone warming up get a dumbphone and be done with it. I think the nexus and most other smartphones do quite well. And this was before i undervolted it. I can only imagine how many useless threads will pop up about heat when quad cores come out. Personally when i upgrade next, hopefully two years from now and not the annual phone i am accustomed to, i hope a dual core cpu and gpu at 28nm or less will be sufficient and be well within the thermal windows and limits for how powerful these pocket size devices have become and dramatically changed our social lives.
Crazy world, ay?

mine gets hot up top on my ear when I'm on a call. I found at least by switching to the new 4.0.3 radio and doing a combination of over clocking + under volting it doesn't get nearly as hot anymore.

I'm talking when my battery temp is 111° and the top of it feels much much hotter than that. I'm on 4.0.2 I understand the phones will get warm but they shouldn't from ten minutes of Facebook. If I was watching Netflix using my GPS and doing so over 4G then yeah scold my hand I get that but not frickin Facebook or internet browsing or anything like that. I really like the phone and ill be keeping it but apparently won't be playing many games lol
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I use a SetCPU profile to peg back the processor to ~700mhz when the temp gets over 40c

Delldorado said:
Sounds like she's gettin hot for most people in the same spot. This over heating phone **** is pissing me off
Rolled out from my Gnex Prime
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Whoa, it's overheating? You might have a defective phone. Mine gets pretty hot but the heat hasn't led to any stability issues or damage like yours. (Note: It's not overheating if there's no damage, so I'm assuming by your text that your phone got damaged)

Vash63 said:
Whoa, it's overheating? You might have a defective phone. Mine gets pretty hot but the heat hasn't led to any stability issues or damage like yours. (Note: It's not overheating if there's no damage, so I'm assuming by your text that your phone got damaged)
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I don't think his phone got damaged, I think it's just hot.
Mine gets pretty hot but the operation of the phone has been fine. It sounds like all of the phones operate basically identical to this.

No not damaged. I leave it alone once it gets real hot. I've turn down my brightness to help prevent it a little. Def doesn't look as good lol
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bucwylde23 said:
I don't think his phone got damaged, I think it's just hot.
Mine gets pretty hot but the operation of the phone has been fine. It sounds like all of the phones operate basically identical to this.
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If it's just getting hot it's not overheating.

Galaxy Nexus Overheating

So I just got the Galaxy Nexus (upgraded from the Nexus S) and just after the first day of use (no heavy workload, wifi or GPS) this thing became painfully hot. We're talking touch it to your skin and *ouch* hot. Strangely the massive heat output seems to be limited to just the top quarter of the device. Also note that it takes only about 10min until it reaches 'unusable' status.
Does anyone else have experience with this problem? Admittedly I was warned by the provider I got it from that they had had feedback from customers about it's excessive heat output and other people I know have also commented to the same affect. But I never thought it would be quite this bad. I could fry an egg on this thing. Considering my Nexus S never had this issue - this is disappointing. Are we talking hardware design fail? Or perhaps a bad batch in my country?
If this was an iPhone they'd be headlines going on about 'heat-gate' and Larry Page coming out saying that we're 'cooling it wrong' lol

the nexus does get abit hot around the camera area, but it shouldnt be THAT hot lol.. what are the ambient tempreatures around where you're using the phone?

IINexusII said:
the nexus does get abit hot around the camera area, but it shouldnt be THAT hot lol.. what are the ambient tempreatures around where you're using the phone?
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Not that hot - maybe 20-25c

Perhaps monitor battery temp with an app, it won't give you a precise indication of your processor temp, but there should be a correlation. The phone does get warm around the camera area, but never painfully so (for me). Was your AOS usage abnormally high?

I think the OP is overreacting just a little, if it burned you then the phone would have melted
Anyways, its perfectly normal. the OMAP4 chipset runs really hot, I read somewhere that it operates normally between 85-105 degrees Fahrenheit.
Here it says that the OMAP4 platform has a temperature range of -40° to 85°C. I think thats overstating it, but its all there

KiNG OMaR said:
I think the OP is overreacting just a little, if it burned you then the phone would have melted
Anyways, its perfectly normal. the OMAP4 chipset runs really hot, I read somewhere that it operates normally between 85-105 degrees Fahrenheit.
Here it says that the OMAP4 platform has a temperature range of -40° to 85°C. I think thats overstating it, but its all there
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I used by SGSII in northern Ethiopia (Dallol), air temp was 56C, it didn't like it

KiNG OMaR said:
I think the OP is overreacting just a little, if it burned you then the phone would have melted
Anyways, its perfectly normal. the OMAP4 chipset runs really hot, I read somewhere that it operates normally between 85-105 degrees Fahrenheit.
Here it says that the OMAP4 platform has a temperature range of -40° to 85°C. I think thats overstating it, but its all there
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Well let me put it this way. It's hot enough for me to consider claiming on warranty. No phone should generate that much heat right next to your head/ear. That's unusable in real terms (at least with this particular one). And i've had my fair share of android phones in the past to compare...

dccxviii said:
Well let me put it this way. It's hot enough for me to consider claiming on warranty. No phone should generate that much heat right next to your head/ear. That's unusable in real terms (at least with this particular one). And i've had my fair share of android phones in the past to compare...
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The Tegra2 chipset runs VERY hot when overclocked as well, I've had hot experiences on both my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and my G2x, and I can also say that the OMAP4 runs hotter than that! Just offering opinion is all, it's perfectly normal for it to be running extra hot, and it happens fairly quickly.
I completely agree with you that the phone does get abnormally hot, but then again, from my experience, so does the RAZR with a sister chip in it.

dccxviii said:
So I just got the Galaxy Nexus (upgraded from the Nexus S) and just after the first day of use (no heavy workload, wifi or GPS) this thing became painfully hot.
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Android 4.0.1, stock Nexus Galaxy, going on 2 weeks. It's in an otterbox defender case, after 1.5 hours of running video it's warm in my hands, but that's under constant workload that nearly drained the whole battery. In other words during normal operation I am not finding the serious problem you are describing. Empathy out to you.

What temps we're talking about? Mine stays at +36C +38C while browsing web/watching youtube and gets a bit (around +41C) hotter when playing games. And these temps are far from hot-to-touch.
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Sometimes my GN becomes really hot too. It also happens when i'm watching hd video for a half an hour or more. Then it turns terribly hot.

mine goes to 48C and then it starts lagging like hell

Mine gets warm around the camera and earpiece. It's pretty normal, I'd say.
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There are multiple threads on this, but I'll say what I've said before: it's a dual core device, it runs hot, it's not "overheating" unless your phone is crashing, shutting down, or otherwise obviously malfunctioning in some way other than getting hot.
What do you mean by "it reaches 'unusable' status" though? Are you just afraid of using it because it seems hot? Mine gets quite hot when I use it heavily...have kept it going for several hours in this state (while plugged in) with no other issues.

Mine gets hot in the same area, but it has never been that hot, just warm. My OG Droid was OCd to 1.3ghz and that literally reached 150+ degrees F quite a few times and is still fine to this day. The OMAP SoCs seem to run a bit hotter than others, but they can definitely handle the heat.

lilirose said:
There are multiple threads on this, but I'll say what I've said before: it's a dual core device, it runs hot, it's not "overheating" unless your phone is crashing, shutting down, or otherwise obviously malfunctioning in some way other than getting hot.
What do you mean by "it reaches 'unusable' status" though? Are you just afraid of using it because it seems hot? Mine gets quite hot when I use it heavily...have kept it going for several hours in this state (while plugged in) with no other issues.
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Basically out of the many smart phones i've had in the past. This is the first that I would say I would refuse to hold it up next to my ear due to the excessive heat. It's bad enough just holding it landscape to type on let alone sticking next to my head. It's really annoying considering how otherwise the interface and physical design of the device is better then anything else i've seen on the market.
I think i'm going to get one of those laser thermometers to find just what the temp on the surface of this thing actually is.

dccxviii said:
Basically out of the many smart phones i've had in the past. This is the first that I would say I would refuse to hold it up next to my ear due to the excessive heat. It's bad enough just holding it landscape to type on let alone sticking next to my head. It's really annoying considering how otherwise the interface and physical design of the device is better then anything else i've seen on the market.
I think i'm going to get one of those laser thermometers to find just what the temp on the surface of this thing actually is.
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It's hot on the back of the phone like other uses have said, not the front where your ear would be (unless it is which is an entirely different problem). Plus, when your phone reaches those temps through extraneous use (videos, games), you normally wouldn't be putting it near your ear anyways. I don't see this as a huge issue. If you do something taxing, much like a computer, expect the phone to work a little bit harder and hotter.
Oh and I doubt it's hot enough to fry an egg. You would smell the plastic melt first.

I've had once when my GNex was really hot. It was when I try factory reset many times since there was a bug that factory reset does nothing in a custom rom. But I didn't know at that time. I tried reset, flash rom, reset, etc. My GNes ended up really hot.

The only time my galaxy nexus got really hot was when I was switching kernels every 2-3 days, and one kernel (I think it was one of Franco's earlier builds) made it run hot even when I wasn't using the phone that intensely. Changed the kernel, and it's never been hot since (I play games, listen to music, browse web, push notifications, etc.) I don't do much video/HD streaming though...

I have been getting that too. Around the earpiece gets warm when only slightly used. Also, I can hear a faint buzzing humming sound from there. Open the back cover..can hear it from the camera too. Is something wrong with my phone

The heat Issue?

I am thinking to buy the phone but I saw some posts there are some heat issues. So what is the problem besides the phone getting too hot? Is it shuting down when it gets too hot or get really laggy? Is there any other problem when heated except it gets really hot?

Rupar4o said:
I am thinking to buy the phone but I saw some posts there are some heat issues. So what is the problem besides the phone getting too hot? Is it shuting down when it gets too hot or get really laggy? Is there any other problem when heated except it gets really hot?
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I haven't experienced any heat issues. I have yet to feel my g3 get warm Tbh.
Others (not sure which model) have reported issues with heat, to the point that it causes the device to throttle the brightness down. Again haven't experienced this on my at&t model.

Heisenberg420 said:
I haven't experienced any heat issues. I have yet to feel my g3 get warm Tbh.
Others (not sure which model) have reported issues with heat, to the point that it causes the device to throttle the brightness down. Again haven't experienced this on my at&t model.
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Thanks for the reply, someone with issues ?

Same here not felt it get warm even watching video.

When the phone gets hot several things happen.
1) The CPU is clocked down to help lower heat
2) Brightness is capped to help lower heat
3) If the phone continues to get too hot (usually when its already hot and you then start to play a really intense game, or benchmark the phone may shut itself down.

People complained a lot with the Korean model but I haven't seen anyone with a US model complain. Maybe the type of person that waits is less likely to be a phone gamer? They may have actually tweaked it so it doesn't activate as quickly or harshly. I do know some people disabled it on the Korean model. I haven't heard of anything bad happening but those few people may have felt dumb if it destroyed their phone and not posted that it did...

I have no heating problem with my lg g3 international D855 16gb model, even during quadrant test or playing games.
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Define an actual temperature for hot.

I disabled the thermal protection on my AT&T version and yes, I've felt it get quite hot while playing Final Fantasy 6. The heat radiated mainly through the metal power button but the entire top half of the device got pretty hot. Didn't bother me all that much tho, as I've had other devices get hot like that in the past.

I use exposed app CPU temp my g3 sits at about 30c and 45c which is normal temps and about 50ish whith thermal protection on disabled.

what heat issue

jutley said:
I use exposed app CPU temp my g3 sits at about 30c and 45c which is normal temps and about 50ish whith thermal protection on disabled.
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Do we have any official documentation from Qualcomm on how hot the cpu can safely be?

flaring afro said:
Do we have any official documentation from Qualcomm on how hot the cpu can safely be?
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Not sure it must be out there somewhere I am sure.

[email protected] said:
I disabled the thermal protection on my AT&T version and yes, I've felt it get quite hot while playing Final Fantasy 6. The heat radiated mainly through the metal power button but the entire top half of the device got pretty hot. Didn't bother me all that much tho, as I've had other devices get hot like that in the past.
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My girlfriend picked this up yesterday and this is happening to her G3. Not playing games though, just browsing the internet/reading an article. It makes no sense to me. How can you take control over that? She doesn't want to root the phone.
But yeah, just reading something or even looking at Facebook, the phone gets way too hot.

I picked up the Verizon version yesterday. It's gotten pretty warm around the power button a few times for me also. Typically not bad or what I would consider unusual with one or two exceptions.

My G3 (UK) go very very hot yesterday when I was on the train playing a graphically intensive game.
It shut itself down and then refused to turn on again. Ever.
I tried everything all night but no joy. I got a replacement handset today.
I'm sure it was because of the overheating that the phone malfunctioned. Without knowing exactly what has happened to it the timing is too coincidental for it to be random hardware failure. It was SUPER hot!

ShiroEd said:
My G3 (UK) go very very hot yesterday when I was on the train playing a graphically intensive game.
It shut itself down and then refused to turn on again. Ever.
I tried everything all night but no joy. I got a replacement handset today.
I'm sure it was because of the overheating that the phone malfunctioned. Without knowing exactly what has happened to it the timing is too coincidental for it to be random hardware failure. It was SUPER hot!
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This is strange. Does the kernel not shut the phone down before it "fries" the SOC?,unless the throttling temps are too high? Wonder if this is linked to the display flickering problem myself and another poster had.

Batfink33 said:
This is strange. Does the kernel not shut the phone down before it "fries" the SOC?,unless the throttling temps are too high? Wonder if this is linked to the display flickering problem myself and another poster had.
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Funny you mention display flickering. I had that about 2 weeks ago. The display started flickering really badly, like nothing I've ever seen on any Android device, and I needed to pull the battery to reset. It didn't boot straight away either, it had to cool down a bit.

mrhaley30705 said:
Define an actual temperature for hot.
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this.
all phones get warm if you are on it for an extended period of time, surfing (using data), gaming etc etc screen on for long periods of time. those saying they can game and not have heat are lying to you. phone gets warm when screen is on for extended period of time and by phone I mean any phone

ShiroEd said:
Funny you mention display flickering. I had that about 2 weeks ago. The display started flickering really badly, like nothing I've ever seen on any Android device, and I needed to pull the battery to reset. It didn't boot straight away either, it had to cool down a bit.
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Yeah, i had a flickering display which didnt go away.I returned that phone. Another poster yesterday had the same issue.Im wondering if the GPU is frying itself? Although the GPU does throttle as well as the CPU. Running Antutu I would get 60+deg C maybe playing a game for an extended period of time for example is causing damage? Just a theory.

Heat

Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the LG G5 stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

i think the G5 heats a little bit too much
today i was simply downloading Hearthstone (800MB approx) and in standby it heated too much

i think its quite excellent actually.
i could not notice any throttling during gaming etc. well maybe thats just because even the gpu is idling at <15% during asphalt 8 play

I had zero issues with thus device heating up until last night... I was at the movies with the fam.. In the theater I only had 1x for data and the phone got hot while searching for a better data connection. Cooled right down after leaving the theater.

Coming from an htc m7, so a huge step anyway... Phone is top!

This was one of the first things I noticed because I used the gps probably 45 mins after taking it out of the box. I watch YouTube vids for around an hour a day and after a while it does become noticeable but I have to be honest; it really doesn't bother me all that much.

Can feel warm and a little uncomfortable in warmer weathers (20-30 Celsius).

Mine heats up a lot. I'm a little concerned honestly.
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I don't experience anything unusual.

heres the deal boys...
Yes this phone gets hot when its used hard.....if your not incurring reboots while running it hard , then you'll probably be good
After a month buying this , I started getting reboots ....hot and cold
The first time I sent it in , they said to leave sim and battery at home...
I got it back and started the usual 30 or more updates from App Store and phone got real hot and started rebooting again every minute
even when it was cool...it rebooted but at a longer interval...
They told me to send battery in too on second go around...
Just got it back , it had a system update to do and then the 30+ app updates....this phone was getting a workout...
I did the App updates right after the system update with the optimization ....
I'm 20 apps into it...the battery cooled down and the apps are still going...
looks like they have a battery issue with these phones. If I don't report back , then all is good...
mike

mikesal57 said:
heres the deal boys...
Yes this phone gets hot when its used hard.....if your not incurring reboots while running it hard , then you'll probably be good
After a month buying this , I started getting reboots ....hot and cold
The first time I sent it in , they said to leave sim and battery at home...
I got it back and started the usual 30 or more updates from App Store and phone got real hot and started rebooting again every minute
even when it was cool...it rebooted but at a longer interval...
They told me to send battery in too on second go around...
Just got it back , it had a system update to do and then the 30+ app updates....this phone was getting a workout...
I did the App updates right after the system update with the optimization ....
I'm 20 apps into it...the battery cooled down and the apps are still going...
looks like they have a battery issue with these phones. If I don't report back , then all is good...
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No, it doesn't mean that LG has an issue with the batteries. It only means that YOU had issue with YOUR battery.
I'm glad your phone is OK and it was just the battery.

Only got mine yesterday, but I've used it a lot in that short time and it get nowhere near as hot my previous 2 phone a Nexus 4 and G3 it gets warm but not what I would call hot compared to them 2 anyway, at its worst mostly watching videos it can get a quite warm, but gaming it barely gets warm, I'm loving it so far but time will tell I guess but so far so good.

Mine heats up too, specially while using Snapchat or YouTube. Haven't played Asphalt or other graphic-intensive games, so I can't comment whether my device has the same issue with them or not.

Mine stays quite cool during heavy usage, it does get realy hot while charging though. I expect this is the same with others?

Coming from the Samsung Galaxy Note series (Note 1 - Note 5), the LG G5 gets pretty hot even when idling.... My solution? Waiting for the Note 7 to be released and then goodbye LG!

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Coming from the Samsung Galaxy Note series (Note 1 - Note 5), the LG G5 gets pretty hot even when idling.... My solution? Waiting for the Note 7 to be released and then goodbye LG!
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Check what's running in the background. Mine is very cool (H850).

Better than the V10. My old V10 overheated while I was using Skype to the point it shut itself off. Had no problems with the G5.

XAlexander_AlexanderX said:
Better than the V10. My old V10 overheated while I was using Skype to the point it shut itself off. Had no problems with the G5.
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heat was worse with the v10 running snapchat... but have you tried running pokemon go on the g5? I've never had a phone get this hot besides my galaxy s4 and that thing sucked

fatapia said:
heat was worse with the v10 running snapchat... but have you tried running pokemon go on the g5? I've never had a phone get this hot besides my galaxy s4 and that thing sucked
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I'm so excited for some Pokémon Go! ... But I assume with high precision GPS, screen, camera, connection, my phone's going to get spicy hot. It warms up easily, otherwise, but it gets hot to the touch sometimes while charging.

xanderin said:
I'm so excited for some Pokémon Go! ... But I assume with high precision GPS, screen, camera, connection, my phone's going to get spicy hot. It warms up easily, otherwise, but it gets hot to the touch sometimes while charging.
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I wish I could play it , I keep getting "GPS location not found" :'( .
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