Pre-release of the S6 and the S6 Edge, reviewers kept saying that the software between the two were almost identical except for the Edge specific features.
I would like to know if we have to use Edge specific roms or can we use roms made for the regular S6?
The only issue I would assume is that S6 roms would not have the Edge features included.
vanessaem said:
Pre-release of the S6 and the S6 Edge, reviewers kept saying that the software between the two were almost identical except for the Edge specific features.
I would like to know if we have to use Edge specific roms or can we use roms made for the regular S6?
The only issue I would assume is that S6 roms would not have the Edge features included.
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that will be a great question to consider, once there is some dev on these phones..
I assume once the TWRP folks work their magic and release a recovery for it, the fun will begin!
I would assume the roms should be similar sans the edge features; a lot of folks have rooted the edge with the s6 cf autoroot; albeit with losing stock recovery in the process..
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I don't know much about hacking...I always root my Android phones, but I dont actually do any developing.
So anyway, I have a question. Now that the GS4 Google Edition has been announced, would it be easier for developers to port the AOSP Rom from the Google Edition GS4 over to the regular edition?
If so, people on Verizon and Sprint shouldnt have to worry about getting it and people who have or want to buy the At&T and T-mobile S4 at a subsidized price would pretty much be able to have the GS4 Google Edition just by rooting it.
If the GE has the same cpu, it should be compatible with our s4's right from the get go. And yes, it will give AOSP devs an official AOSP base to build from instead of building from scratch.
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If the GE has the same cpu, it should be compatible with our s4's right from the get go. And yes, it will give AOSP devs an official AOSP base to build from instead of building from scratch.
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the REAL questions:
1) will Samsung proprietary optimizations be part of the GE software?
2) what about wifi calling?
3) ...and bluetooth... what kind of bluetooth will be included and will drivers be proprietary?
the stuff that only worked in touchwiz based roms for the US GS III variants may have to be open sourced or simply left out.
i thought wifi calling was a tmo thing only
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i thought wifi calling was a tmo thing only
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Thats what they are saying, if they add it to the GE version, then it will most likely be made open source. Unless Google and T-Mo come up with some contract/deal. But more than likely, i see the wifi calling feature made open source. That would be nice. Now i can't decide if i should get my S4 now or wait for the GE. I sure hope they make the GE one match perfectly to the original T-Mo one. That way T-Mo handset users can benefit from the plethora of support for AOSP. Im a huge CM10.1 user myself.
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the REAL questions:
1) will Samsung proprietary optimizations be part of the GE software?
2) what about wifi calling?
3) ...and bluetooth... what kind of bluetooth will be included and will drivers be proprietary?
the stuff that only worked in touchwiz based roms for the US GS III variants may have to be open sourced or simply left out.
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1) Like all the fancy TW "features"? Doubt it.
2)No, it's not available on the N4 on T-Mobile not to mention that the GES4 isn't specifically made for T-Mobile
3)Supposedly 4.3 will have support for BT4.0, which the N4 is physically capable of but stock android doesn't support yet.
I may be way out of line here and if so I apologize - however coming from the Galaxy Nexus to the Galaxy Note 3 I'm mostly pretty happy except with certain aspects of Samsungs software stupidity that I can't seem to get rid of. I've been using the GEL and its amazing but I want to get back to "stock android" as much as possible. This means getting rid of the assnine Gingerbread-era settings menus, dialers, people app and other apps that look like they were plucked from my Droid X from 3 years ago.
Am I being unreasonable when I look at the available ROM's on the T-mo section and see that there aren't any kitkat ROMs available yet? Is there a development hurdle for the Galaxy devices that makes it impossible to make a AOSP-based ROM? (As if it needs to be said, I'm not a developer).
I love the hardware and the S-pen functionality (why I bought it), but I need to rid myself of the 90's era UI that samsung has foisted on us. Am I missing a ROM out there that can fulfill my needs?
I don't think there is anything aosp that can offer what tw had to offer when it comes to s pen functionality.
I had the note 2 before this and was running paranoid ROM which didn't have the cool s pen features.
What I've used the most is the pen window feature. Taking a quick note or using the calc has been handy.
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Defenestratus said:
I may be way out of line here and if so I apologize - however coming from the Galaxy Nexus to the Galaxy Note 3 I'm mostly pretty happy except with certain aspects of Samsungs software stupidity that I can't seem to get rid of. I've been using the GEL and its amazing but I want to get back to "stock android" as much as possible. This means getting rid of the assnine Gingerbread-era settings menus, dialers, people app and other apps that look like they were plucked from my Droid X from 3 years ago.
Am I being unreasonable when I look at the available ROM's on the T-mo section and see that there aren't any kitkat ROMs available yet? Is there a development hurdle for the Galaxy devices that makes it impossible to make a AOSP-based ROM? (As if it needs to be said, I'm not a developer).
I love the hardware and the S-pen functionality (why I bought it), but I need to rid myself of the 90's era UI that samsung has foisted on us. Am I missing a ROM out there that can fulfill my needs?
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We all feel your pain brother.
I have owned 3 Samsung Galaxy devices before this one and all have had AOSP/AOKP/CM10.2
For some reason or another, a developer not made a bare bone AOSP rom.
Which we all want.
Believe me when I say, we all know touchwiz is getting annoying.
My current setup is Stock Deodexed Debloated with the AOSP theme found in the "Themes and Apps" section, also with the Kit Kat Launcher.
I downloaded all of the Nexus 5 apps (Calendar, Camera, Gallery, Clock, etc. And deleted the Touchwiz ones.
This is as close as we can get for now .
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I'm torn between the Note 4 and the Nexus 6; I like the quick updates on Nexus, plain vanilla UI, water-resistance....
But the Note 4 has many great things going for it, not least of which are a better camera and the S-pen. If I do go with that phone, I'd like to make reasonably sure I can continue upgrading the ROM well past Samsung's EOL... But I'd also want to make sure that such things as S-pens, heart rate, UV sensors, and the like will actually be usable with custom ROMs.
Those of you with experience with Samsung Notes int he past -- is this a reasonable thing to expect? (I remember how long it took for the camera on the HTC Vision to work on custom ROMs.... but many things have changed since...)
So coming from experience that ranges between many custom roms on many phones. I think its less an issue to need to have custom roms nowadays than it was before. But there is plenty of custom touch wiz roms in the community. I think when you get the note, you have to know you are getting proprietary software and drivers for the wacom technology (s pen). Prob same for other stuff (uv, etc). Sorry answer is, get Note 4 I'd stock is okay with 2 years of legit Samsung updates. If not, get nexus. And any custom roms are gravy.
note 4 probably wont have custom roms. if that is what you are looking for get a nexus 6
I always used a custom rom that had every thing working. There are both types normally depending on what you want. Like a Philly steak with wiz or without lol.
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You are assuming we can get a custom recovery. That is by no means certain.
Custom Roms are possible with the Developer edition!!
Hello,
I've been thinking about getting myself a Note 10.1, mostly because of the S-Pen.
Since I don't like TW at all, I visited the Android development subforum and got confused about the different versions.
So I've seen ROMs for the P600/601/605. As far as I know, the white lte version is the P605 and both white wifi versions (16 or 32GB) are the P600. The black versions have another zero added (P6000 and P6050), but I guess they can still use the roms designed for the P600 and P605 respectively, right? And which one is the P601?
Also the S-Pen seems to be fully functional under some of the custom-roms, with palm rejection working, or am I wrong?
Thanks for taking your time to answer my questions!
N0he said:
Hello,
I've been thinking about getting myself a Note 10.1, mostly because of the S-Pen.
Since I don't like TW at all, I visited the Android development subforum and got confused about the different versions.
So I've seen ROMs for the P600/601/605. As far as I know, the white lte version is the P605 and both white wifi versions (16 or 32GB) are the P600. The black versions have another zero added (P6000 and P6050), but I guess they can still use the roms designed for the P600 and P605 respectively, right? And which one is the P601?
Also the S-Pen seems to be fully functional under some of the custom-roms, with palm rejection working, or am I wrong?
Thanks for taking your time to answer my questions!
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OK. All WiFi/g3 only Note is the p600. All the ones the carriers carry are the p605-7 which use snapdragon CPUs. I am currently rooted and running a custom ROM called LiquidSmooth, this is a Lollipop ROM. I am about to release it, just got the last go a head last night. It has S-Pen support. It doesn't have some of the features that tw has, but these are easy to replace, with an app, if you want them. Palm rejection work fine. Buy the Note root it then install a custom ROM like Liquid, CM 12 which is extremely bare bone and doesn't have the S-Pen customization, or temasek which is based off CM 12 but with a heck of a lot more customization.
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Seriously I accidently (and stupidly) checked the G920 forums original android dev section and the blowup of AOSP based ROMs is just getting cruel as I sit on a crippled TW base :/.
Same SoC, yet no love
I feel your pain bro.
Same here :/ and I just got the phone , going to wait till next year for the s9/s9 plus
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Same here :/ and I just got the phone , going to wait till next year for the s9/s9 plus
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OUCH I landed mine this Summer sometime and an Ex GF actually FRP locked it, so I was pretty happy just to break that lock, then found CM13 floating around here right after, & probably just assumed we were going full throttle like all other flagships from Sammy.
Even Android File Hosts developer counts.
Note 5 130ish devs reported? Like 7 pages of names.
s6 Edge+ devs reported at somewhere around 30 total. Is this even seriously happening?
They are ALL THE SAME DEVICE Why we don't just have an *Exynos7420 device area is beyond me, we would go alot further merging all the TWRP commits into a universal for whole SoC lineup then carrier Variants to simplify it all again, instead with the way it is I have no clue what is possible and a good idea or totally stupid and a bootloop in the making. >.<
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I feel like part of the problem may be users that don't roll up their sleeves and learn to contribute to the community. If there's a project you want to see, and it doesn't exist, start it. It looks like you'd have lots of greatful people.
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I feel like part of the problem may be users that don't roll up their sleeves and learn to contribute to the community. If there's a project you want to see, and it doesn't exist, start it. It looks like you'd have lots of greatful people.
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How? There are plenty of projects on the same SoC with no desire to port to the 4 or 5 users (Us) that care
Personally I just sold this phone for $80 today over this, and the fact for 6mths its been nothing but a headache, 6mths of learning googling and tinkering, + probably 2tb in total internet data for this. I still don't quite understand the finer details of this device, and to be totally honest, I wouldn't want to, it all seems to be about rerouting and fixing up stuff to work around AOSP code.
If you really thought about getting an Exynos or a Samsung device in general just for tinkering and community involvement, it was your mistake from the start. even if the S6/Note 5 have more support than the edge plus (which mainly because of the sales/price difference between the regular edge and the plus) they are nothing but 10% of the support you will find for devices like the OnePlus, Xiaomi, Nexuses or even Crap Sony and mainly because these other manufacturers are more developer friendly and most of the time their code is very similar to AOSP.
Well if s6 , s6 edge and s6 edge+ are basically the same device, would s6 or s6 edge rom work on edge+?
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Well if s6 , s6 edge and s6 edge+ are basically the same device, would s6 or s6 edge rom work on edge+?
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It would. With (depends on which ROM) more or less modifications. MIUI in original development section is an S6 port.
Note 5 ROMs seems to be much easier to port (most likely just use an S6e+ kernel) because it's even more similar to our device.
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It would. With (depends on which ROM) more or less modifications. MIUI in original development section is an S6 port.
Note 5 ROMs seems to be much easier to port (most likely just use an S6e+ kernel) because it's even more similar to our device.
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Yes this is all true but the differences between the s6, s6 edge, s6e+, & also the note5 respectively share extremely similar traits with the other device that runs all kinds of fun stuff (Meizu Pro 5) and the only major difference I could grasp between them is the ODIN mode/Fastboot swaps + some minor stuff (hardware buttons, higher res camera, scanner on back of phone)
But they were still ALL the same manufacturing & SoC line (Sony Camera, Exynos7420) but the pro5 just magically somehow can be released with an Ubuntu Touch edition + CyanogenMod like cake??? I dont buy that man..... If it were such a hassle to do this phones hardware for devs, they wouldn't be just flexing it in the background like that......
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If you really thought about getting an Exynos or a Samsung device in general just for tinkering and community involvement, it was your mistake from the start. even if the S6/Note 5 have more support than the edge plus (which mainly because of the sales/price difference between the regular edge and the plus) they are nothing but 10% of the support you will find for devices like the OnePlus, Xiaomi, Nexuses or even Crap Sony and mainly because these other manufacturers are more developer friendly and most of the time their code is very similar to AOSP.
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Did you not see the comments or?
I got the device for free, I had no clue what was inside of it, also didn't care about the SoC since I had prior knowledge that Samsung would be a simple process with Odin & a CF package, what I hadn't counted on was TouchWiz still being the most bloated & unstable manufacturers slop on the market, also hadn't counted on it being the hardest overall to develop for, since most of the developers lost their XDA accounts eve attempting to bring CM13 up for the device, & don't get me wrong I have had plenty of HTC/Motorola devices & I sold my Nexus 7 not long ago, I'm familiar with AOSP (the thing these Samsung devs had to of started from) and just can't understand why they made is so much of a runaround process.