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I decided to try my first custom ROM... (installing virtous) and have a few questions/issues:
1) I started with a Nandroid backup.
2) I did a full titanium backup
3) I used ROM manager to install Virtous (did a full system swipe)...
Ok.. here is where I am having my issues
After the install, I went back to the marketplace and installed titanium backup.
What option should I restore? I would like to get all the widgets and data restored. I tried restore all apps+system data but I am wondering if that is reinstalling the bloatware that virtous removed. If so, what are the correct options in Titanium backup I should use?
Next, I tried to reinstall everything but I got that dreaded low on storage and then out of storage space error. My phone has lots of storage both internal and on the SD card - so the restore (I am guessing) failed at some indeterminate point. Most of my widgets were not loading properly (beautiful widget, pure calendar, multi-icon etc) after the attempted restore.
Regardless, even if I clean-up the widgets, the low memory message persisted so I was left with no choice but to revert to my previous nandroid backup .
So... how do you install a custom rom and easily reestablish your previous state/settings without getting the low/ out of storage warning?
Also, one of my goals is to get a deodexed rom so I can install custom themes (e.g., battery mods, etc). Can I just flash the deodexed stock rom over my current rom (I did not understand deodexed when I first upgraded to froyo) without having to do a swipe? Will I run into any issues?
Thanks
I tried again with less apps/ data and still have no luck.
I did a restore all apps and system data from titanium, got a low storage than out of storage error (the phone has over 60% of its storage available so I know I am nowhere near close to actually using all the storage).
When titanium completed, most apps forced close (gmail, rom manager, etc) so I assume the storage error is impacting the restore.
Back to my nandroid backup again.
If I am running stock Froyo, can I just flash a new sense based froyo without wiping? (trying to find a way to experiment and really want to get a deodexed rom installed)
When new ROM is flashed, in TB, try reinstalling only user apps, not system apps.
Why?
The new ROM you flash and the ROM you are coming from should both have system apps already in them, so why reinstall system apps from the old ROM that most likely exist in the new ROM?
But how do I reestablish the previous settings? Or do I have to reconfigure all my accounts, etc each time I install a new rom.
Thanks
Me too. How to correct?
uncommon 1.1 on my phone is doing same thing. 1.0 had no problem.
Just a theory as I haven't tried to install another ROM...
I noticed the touchdown data file on my phone was quite big (>70mb) - it appears that when touchdown's data file gets very large, the message appears more often (looks likes there is a bug in Android with large data-sets). I cleared touchdown's data and resynced which shrunk the data file to ~12mb. I reinstalled all the apps I removed to try and eliminate the memory error and so far have been running smoothly.
When I have some time, I am going to try another ROM and see if I can restore without any storage issues. I still am curious how everyone resets their settings from ROM to ROM (or do they manually configure everything each time)
After poking around in astro file manager, contacts(cross-linked mess), and uninstalling some rarely used programs all to no avail......
I fixed my "low on program memory" notification by emptying my deleted items in the mail app- a hotmail account that is rarely used.
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But how do I reestablish the previous settings? Or do I have to reconfigure all my accounts, etc each time I install a new rom.
Thanks
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To be on the safe side, just reinstall only apps, with or without data. There is no real point in wiping days, and yet reinstalling system apps and data. Kind of defeats the purpose. And yes, manually add accounts. Takes more time, but minimizes conflicts. Shouldn't take more than 30 minutes, which is a small price to pay to eliminate potential headaches.
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I've run into this as well. In fact it was the original reason I decided to move forward with rooting my phone since I had to wipe it anyway. Has anyone looked into what program monitors this and flags the error? Is memory not being reported correctly, or is there a tolerance that maybe we need to tweak in the code somewhere?
All of a sudden a couple days ago, Gmail on my rooted Incredible (running CM 7.1 and incredikernel) began acting sluggish, syncing poorly, and force closing. Soon thereafter I got a message reading Google Services Framework was not responding, followed by FCs of pretty much every app I tried to open: maps, market, voice, etc.
It happened once before due to an issue with Google Music sync. Turning that off, waiting a day or two, and resuming sync did the trick. This time I'm seeing sync errors with Gmail (on each of the 2 accounts I have set up), Contacts, and Music. All at different times. And nothing seems to solve the problem
I've tried seemingly everything to no avail.
Thus far I've: wiped Dalvik cache, wiped cache, rolled back to an old Nandroid backup, reinstalled CM 7.1, reinstalled GApps, reinstalled GMail app from the market, wiped all data and cache from Gmail/Google Services/Contacts/Contacts Storage/Calendar/Calendar Storage, and ultimately did a full factory reset through Recovery.
After reinstalling CM 7.1 + GApps last night, things seemed to be OK, but I'm back to everything FC'ing today. If I have sync turned off, I can use the phone. But even then, my wifi/radio icons in the status bar are permanently white.
Any ideas? I don't seem to have any corrupt contacts. And setting up a one-time sync of each Gmail account (including contacts and calendar) didn't seem to be any harm. Only thing I can think is if my Titanium back up had something corrupt in it. I did restore that (apps only, no system data) after factory reset.
Thanks in advance for any help
Are other apps syncing correctly? I'd try a fresh start WITHOUT restoring anything through titanium.
Thank you.
Is it possible to determine which files backed up through Titanium might be causing the issue (or otherwise try to prevent against this down the road)? Alternately, after a full wipe/restore through Nandroid, is it possible to restore individual apps from a batch Titanium back up?
I know it seems to be specific to Incredibles that the typical wipe of calendar/contacts/gmail doesn't get rid of Google Services Framework FCs... so hoping to be sure all bases are covered.
Thanks again!
Yes, you "can" restore apps in titanium but have to be careful. It seems like most people don't have problems restoring just apps. Some are even OK with app+app data. Its NOT recommended to restore system data, especially if you're going from sense to AOSP or vice versa. Personally, I redownload my apps fresh from the market, using the automated Google restore or the web market, which you can download apps straight to your phone from. I've never run into any problems doing it this way.
Sounds like my GFs problem too, except the FC'ing happens once and a while and I have to format the whole phone to fix it.
My Incredible with CM7 is having the same problems
I was using an older CM7 nightly which had been stable for several months.
Out of the blue, all my google apps start crashing, as well as the framework.
Force closes EVERYWHERE.
I loaded the latest nightly, and rebooted. Same problem.
Had some trouble with Titanium Backup destroying the functionality of my home button along the way... so I started from scratch (as much as possible):
Wiped the Delvik Cache, Formatted the Cache, Wiped the Data.
Installed newest CM7 and gapps from cyanogenmod.
Ran "Fix Permissions".
Reverted back to the included ADW.Launcher instead of the paid version I previously had.
Manually installed a skeleton set of apps, and used titanium backup only to restore data on a handful of apps that really needed it.
It was stable for a day, then the same force close issues with all my google apps and the google framework.
Rebooting the phone seems to help temporarily, but I hate having to reboot my phone twice a day.
I've been updating to new nightlies every day now, hoping that one of them will finally fix this problem.
Do I need to flash a new radio, perhaps?
What could I be missing?
When you do a fresh install, wipe system and boot as well data/factory reset. Also, try downloading and installing apps from market, not titanium (restore nothing from titanium). Your radio should be a 2.15 series, but also shouldn't cause this.
Found this thread looking for my answer and found a solution somewhere else, just as an FYI here:
The strange thing is, I'm NOT out of space. My SD card and internal memory have plenty of room. Then I remembered: The Incredible only has about 300 MB of application storage partitioned. Cyanogen seems to work around this problem, EXCEPT for apps from the Marketplace. They will still say there is not enough space. Other install sources (raw apk, amazon, etc), work just fine.
I remembered that I installed Peggle from Amazon yesterday, which was an 80 MB download. I also remembered I couldn't re-install Angry Birds that day because the Market said I was out of space.
So! I uninstalled Peggle and a couple more large apps I don't need, turned all my syncing back on, no DB I/O errors in LogCat, no force closes, no nothing!
So here's my diagnosis:
-HTC Incredible only partitions ~300 MB for applications+data
-Cyanogen lets users install MORE than 300 MB of applications+data
-Android services (such as market and sync) don't understand Cyanogen is doing
-Android services fail gracefully (like market), or not so gracefully (like Sync) when you are out of 'storage'.
-Making sure you have some "free" space in your /data/data/ folder (I have about 30 MB) causes these force closes to stop.
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http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/24484-lots-of-google-framework-failuresrebooting-needed
I have looked at all the other related threads but they are not helping me.
Situation;
I installed a custom rom...had issues so i used Rom Manger and used recovery. Used Titanium backup to reinstall aps.
After a while (day later)Rom Manger became unresponsive so I uninstalled it. When I went to re-install the error came up of insufficient storage.
Phone was back to a happy rooted state so I figured I would also uninstall Titanium Backup. Same error when I tried to install it.
However after that I tried other apps and all other apps from the market will install including Rom Toolbox.
I have rebooted. Removed all trace's(so I think) of Rom Manager and Titanium Backup, rebooted and tried again but same error.
Ive deleted market apps and reinstalled them with no issues.
Im sure Ive missing somthing simple but im weary to start messing to much without some advice.
Hope you guys can point me in a good direction.
Can you screen shot the error?
I would recommend the following:
1) go into settings, apps, and clear market data/cache
reboot and try again. If that doesn't work
2) Fix permissions and try again.
Solution found
Found the solution and all is installed and working.
1. Manual find and clear dalvik-cache
2. Find and delete .odex file of the app you are trying to re-install. Only seemed to be an issue with [root]apps.
Hello, I have just bought a new G4, and rooted it perfectly, by flashing the rooted system with adb.
That same day, gmail starts to pop up errors and force close after restoring data from TB (my fault!) so I decide to uninstall the upgrades. Play store get frozen on "uninstalling..." untill I have no other option but rebooting the system. Now, gmail is completely gone. Uninstalled. But if I try to reinstall it via play store, TB, aptoide, even downloading the apk, I get the error message "insufficient space, try uninstalling the app before. Error -506"
I have cleared caches, system cleaner, I have deleted (moved to the SD) the dead gmail files at system/data... but the error persists! Now I have run out of ideas, please help.
Forgot to mention, I can install or uninstall the rest of apps. It is only gmail the one that causes problems.
SOLVED: Finally, SDMaid was able to delete a corpse I have missed, so I could reinstall it as a user app. The force close was still there, but after some reboots, TB was able to turn it into a system app. Now it works again.
Yesterday, I installed firmware V20h at my H815. It seems, that LG added some mechanism that makes it impossible to uninstall bloatware and crapware apps permanently despite of correctly installed root rights.
I uninstalled some Google apps like Music, Books... etc. successfully via Titanium Backup, but after having rebooted, they were back again.
Can anybody confirm this? Maybe, there is a solution I have not known about yet... ?
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Yesterday, I installed firmware V20h at my H815. It seems, that LG added some mechanism that makes it impossible to uninstall bloatware and crapware apps permanently despite of correctly installed root rights.
I uninstalled some Google apps like Music, Books... etc. successfully via Titanium Backup, but after having rebooted, they were back again.
Can anybody confirm this? Maybe, there is a solution I have not known about yet... ?
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did those apps got updated? maybe you just deleted them from data/apps and not from system folder.
slds,
No, Mate, unfortunately not... I am sure, because after having failed uninstalling I deactivated them. When doing that, anyway, all updates are uninstalled. Afterwards, I retried uninstalling, but after rebooting, they have still appeared as deactivated in App menu... It really seems impossible to permanently delete any preinstalled crap with this new firmware...
Have you ever heard about "DT Ignite"? This is a tool for the carriers / manufacturers to generate revenue of unwanted stuff after deinstallation. I suppose, LG inserted a similar mechanism in this new ROM version or maybe - all the system partition is mounted read-only without Root-Apps like Titanium Backup noticing this.
At first, I supposed /cust folder contents could be the culprit. There is really a folder /cust/H3G_COM/overlay/app containing many .apk files, but the Google apps are not among them. So these contents can not be the culprit or at least not only. Later on, I will make another backup and then delete all the /cust folder contents. Let's see what will happen then.
I finally managed to uninstall all the crapware I wanted to get rid of. With Titanium Backup Pro, it did not work - after reboot, all the crap was back. Then I tried with ES FileExplorer Pro. I gave Root-Explorer r/w rights for all the root file system and then used its System App Uninstall functionality. After another reboot, all the crap has definitely gone!
But I still do not understand at all, why it is such a rocket science to debloat this ROM version! I have NEVER had such problems with things like that! And I have already rooted and debloated many different ROMs for many different devices!
Why do you even bother removing them? They are installed in the system partition so you won't gain any space by removing them. Disabling them is just about the same as removing, they will be virtually ignored by your device (it's the same thing as freezing apps in titanium backup). I see no point in removing those apps manually.
Also, if you are calling this bloat you obviously never used a Samsung device. Plus, I believe that LG is obliged by Google to put those apps in the phone (remember Nokia didn't get Android back them because they wanted to have their maps platform instead of Google maps?).
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Delete the folders using Root Backup instead. I've always found Titanium Backup really temperamental with removing apps on the System partition specifically on Marshmallow. Same thing as you, said it uninstalled them but they were still there after a reboot. A swift delete using root browser got rid of them.
These days I don't even bother and just use the debloater tool (3.90).