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I know a lot of chef around here eager to release ROMs with the ability to be overclocked. I for one also like to have a faster phone but there is always this question haunted me.
Do you always use your phone in overclock mode daily?
I use my MIUI'ed Desire at 998MHz (sometimes 1113MHz) but then afraid things might get wrong if I use it overclock too long.
Any expert that can confirm overclock will not harm the phone? I mean small overclock of course like from 998 to 1113. (or perhaps anyone want to explain what is the safe MHz for overclocking for daily use?)
Sorry if it has been asked before. Hope someone can shed some light here.
nyunyu said:
I know a lot of chef around here eager to release ROMs with the ability to be overclocked. I for one also like to have a faster phone but there is always this question haunted me.
Do you always use your phone in overclock mode daily?
I use my MIUI'ed Desire at 998MHz (sometimes 1113MHz) but then afraid things might get wrong if I use it overclock too long.
Any expert that can confirm overclock will not harm the phone? I mean small overclock of course like from 998 to 1113. (or perhaps anyone want to explain what is the safe MHz for overclocking for daily use?)
Sorry if it has been asked before. Hope someone can shed some light here.
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i really depends on your cpu, all are diffrent, if you can run it at 1113mhz and its fine and stable, no random reboots ect, then its fine to run it like that on a daily basis, for example my cpu runs great up to 1150 but if i overclock it anymore my device becomes unstable and sometimes reboots, obviously this is bad for the cpu.
Well,I am one lucky fuc*er having a Desire that is all good and stable even at up to 1386MHz(only used that with an old version of OpenDesire though,spent some weeks with AuraxTSense @1300MHz too)!
However,overclocking is not harmful for your CPU as long as it doesn't "press" it too much as AndroHero pointed out.What does harm your CPU with time is overvolting in order to overclock.That's why I stopped overclocking too much.Now I use AuraxTSense 8 @1190MHz and am perfectly happy with it.It doesn't even get hotter than usual and battery seems to be unaffected(god bless undervolt! ).
I run my Desire with a 10% overclock (1113Mhz) all day long, and I am running my HD2 with a 20% overclock (1.2Ghz), I don't think twice about it. And tomorrow I will be getting a Desire HD and that's going to get a good thrashing as well!
Hai Guise!
Back a little while ago the G2/Vision thread (before Desire Z was merged) had a thread about overclocking made by a user named Flippy. I followed it for a while because it was getting insanely out of control and awesome. I had used 1.9Ghz as my max oc for a while and It was great. Now I'm on 1.8Ghz again because the 1.9Ghz kernel was removed later on and replaced with the 1.8Ghz update zip. (For some reason doesn't work for me so I had to fastboot it)
So the reason I made this thread is because I would like to have the 2.0Ghz kernel. I know it's possible and has been done already. I've looked into compiling my own but apparently I need linux to compile it and I'm not fond of installing VM's on my old computer that will barely run as it is.
Now I ask of you, if anyone who is kind enough to possibly please compile a 2.0Ghz zimage for me, I would be greatly in your debt and appreciate it much so! I understand that it is my fault if I mess up my device and only I am held responsible.
Thank you in advanced to anyone kind enough to offer their services.
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Hai Guise!
Back a little while ago the G2/Vision thread (before Desire Z was merged) had a thread about overclocking made by a user named Flippy. I followed it for a while because it was getting insanely out of control and awesome. I had used 1.9Ghz as my max oc for a while and It was great. Now I'm on 1.8Ghz again because the 1.9Ghz kernel was removed later on and replaced with the 1.8Ghz update zip. (For some reason doesn't work for me so I had to fastboot it)
So the reason I made this thread is because I would like to have the 2.0Ghz kernel. I know it's possible and has been done already. I've looked into compiling my own but apparently I need linux to compile it and I'm not fond of installing VM's on my old computer that will barely run as it is.
Now I ask of you, if anyone who is kind enough to possibly please compile a 2.0Ghz zimage for me, I would be greatly in your debt and appreciate it much so! I understand that it is my fault if I mess up my device and only I am held responsible.
Thank you in advanced to anyone kind enough to offer their services.
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Why do you need to overclock that high? I've used the 1.8Ghz and found that to.be overkill. I'm running at about 1ghz at that seems ample.
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cjward23 said:
Why do you need to overclock that high? I've used the 1.8Ghz and found that to.be overkill. I'm running at about 1ghz at that seems ample.
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Wouldn't that fry your phone without any active cooling system or something? Sounds unnecessarily risky..
dietotherhythm said:
Hai Guise!
Back a little while ago the G2/Vision thread (before Desire Z was merged) had a thread about overclocking made by a user named Flippy. I followed it for a while because it was getting insanely out of control and awesome. I had used 1.9Ghz as my max oc for a while and It was great. Now I'm on 1.8Ghz again because the 1.9Ghz kernel was removed later on and replaced with the 1.8Ghz update zip. (For some reason doesn't work for me so I had to fastboot it)
So the reason I made this thread is because I would like to have the 2.0Ghz kernel. I know it's possible and has been done already. I've looked into compiling my own but apparently I need linux to compile it and I'm not fond of installing VM's on my old computer that will barely run as it is.
Now I ask of you, if anyone who is kind enough to possibly please compile a 2.0Ghz zimage for me, I would be greatly in your debt and appreciate it much so! I understand that it is my fault if I mess up my device and only I am held responsible.
Thank you in advanced to anyone kind enough to offer their services.
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You don't need a VM. You need to wipe the garbage off and install linux on the "bare metal".
While it would be *neat* to oc this phone to 2GHz - just because. It would be beyond useless and I can just see some noob burning down their parents house or possibly starting a nuclear war with Russia by accident. Lets not forget your carrier reporting you to the CIA for having a nuclear reactor in your phone.
Look, with no active cooling it's just downright stupid to go that high. However being the genius' that we are I'm sure somebody could devise a method to install a mini fan or some liquid cooling on this phone. But then you may need that nuclear reactor to power all that stuff. Haven't we already set a guiness world record at 1.8GHz on a production phone anyway? Maybe we need to tell them so we can make it in the book
My phone froze at 2Ghz... I went in for 2.2Ghz at first but it froze after a couple seconds
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My phone froze at 2Ghz... I went in for 2.2Ghz at first but it froze after a couple seconds
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LOL, it didn't make you go back in time or some ****?
The 1.9Ghz kernel caused my phone to crash. 2.0 would burn your phone's processor out. Just use the 1.8Ghz kernel and have the profiles on SetCPU set to the lowest speeds when the display's off.
Your phone may not actually run stable at 2GHz. Mine doesn't run stable past 1.6GHz, and that runs psx4droid *perfectly*, especially with the optimization they've done in the app recently.
Also, even with setCPU profiles, battery drain when you ARE running that high is a beeeotch.
Honestly, it's not really for OCing that high, but rather the look at what I can do I had a friend just ask be how high I can OC my phone and at 1.5GHz he's like woah :O His face at 2GHz would have been like
I previously used Flippy's kernel on my G2 and did OC it to 1.8 GHz, and got a Quadrant score of 3037. It was cool to see how fast my phone could actually get, but I'm more than comfortable with OC'ing it to 1.4 GHz. Anything more than that seems to be unnecessary to me, but that's just my opinion. Last thing I want is to have my G2 melt while it's in the pocket of my pants.
Try the .ko module and overclock that way
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Try the .ko module and overclock that way
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Oh yeah totally forgot that existed. Thank you for the useful response.
tried the module but the phone freezes after doing anything above 1.4ghz
I believe it needs voltage tweaking which I don't know how to go about sooo... yeah
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My phone froze at 2Ghz... I went in for 2.2Ghz at first but it froze after a couple seconds
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LOL!! Froze? Or more like "fried"!! Hehe
Doesn't it happen to you guys that when running @1.5Ghz u get many FC from some games? Running excessive OC might stop your phone from working.
Why do you need 2Ghz?!
EdWRX said:
LOL!! Froze? Or more like "fried"!! Hehe
Doesn't it happen to you guys that when running @1.5Ghz u get many FC from some games? Running excessive OC might stop your phone from working.
Why do you need 2Ghz?!
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Nope, not for me anyway. I know different HW revisions and such have an effect on how high you can oc but my phone doesn't skip a beat at 1.8GHZ. I'm sure I could go to 2GHZ or a bit higher but unless I'm trying to emulate a PS3, I don't see the purpose - aside from maybe setting a record.
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Nope, not for me anyway. I know different HW revisions and such have an effect on how high you can oc but my phone doesn't skip a beat at 1.8GHZ. I'm sure I could go to 2GHZ or a bit higher but unless I'm trying to emulate a PS3, I don't see the purpose - aside from maybe setting a record.
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Same. I can do 1.8 all day if I keep near a charger. Anything over 1.3 will drain my battery like a monster though.
I keep at 1.2 regularly and only go higher for games.
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EdWRX said:
LOL!! Froze? Or more like "fried"!! Hehe
Doesn't it happen to you guys that when running @1.5Ghz u get many FC from some games? Running excessive OC might stop your phone from working.
Why do you need 2Ghz?!
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I can jog 1.8 and 1.9Ghz for a day without even reaching a dangerous temperature.
Can I get some supportive ideas and less herp derp personal opinions?
Highest Ive pushed mine is 1.5ghz. No need to go any further, Im satisfied with the performance. I get a full days battery life and the temperatures never get critical (my setcpu profile is set to underclock at 38.2 degrees Celcius but my G2 hasn't gotten close to that). Im curious at what stage my G2 would score 3000+ in Quadrant.
You might PM flippy and see if he will customize a kernel for you that goes that high. Let him know you will send a certified letter signed in blood and a video of you stating you release him of all liability for what ever town you destroy when your phone goes nuclear.
Seriously though, I'm willing to be he'll make it for kicks if you ask nicely - btw, call guiness so you can make it into the record books. Also, I'm not sure but if you flash a 'blank' kernel couldn't you just echo the speed and voltage in the 00banner file or whichever one it is?
Okay, so my question is basically how stable is overclocking your g2? I typically keep it at 800 when I use my phone normally, than 1.5ghz for games. I wante d to keep my g2 at 1.5ghz forever.. is that bad?
My battery obviously increases in temp..
I just use 1GH. It's enough for all game now. and didn't see any bad to battery or phone
I've had my DZ for about three weeks now and all this time I've had it consistently overclocked to 1843MHz. At that high of a speed, I had to let the phone cool down after 20 minutes of use.
Just today I flashed pershoot's 1516MHz kernel and noticed no heat issues after ~45 minutes of consistent use (temps < 40C).
I have had my g2 for.... However long they been out. I have always been overclock to at least 1.5 with zero heat issues. I ran 1.8 and even 1.9 for a good long time as well. Those speeds have heat issues ones that required a battery pull a few times because it started heating up faster then i could shut down the phone. If your going to OC at those speeds makes sure you set temp profiles with alarms.
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ARM processors, like our snapdragons, are a lot more forgiving on the overclocking front than what you might find in your desktop, for instance.
I still treat overclocking on my phone like I do my computers, though... setcpu has a stress test built in that you can use if you're curious how "stable" your overclock is. but in my experience, I've found that you can get away with just playing around with it and using the phone normally and seeing how it reacts to different clockspeeds.
right now, I run it at 1.1ghz (24/7). I have run it at 1.5ghz (24/7) in the past for PSX/N64 emulators, but I've found with my new setup (pretty light; no widgets, very few things going on in the background, stripped as many unnecessary apps as possible, and not using any animations or fancy bits) that 1.1ghz is more than enough to be able to play the games I play on any emulator smoothly.
you should be fine at any speed that is currently available in the overclocking kernels we have with the exception of flippy's 1.9ghz kernel, which does require some monitoring to keep things cool and stable. but it still does vary from phone to phone. if you're running at 1.5ghz and the phone isn't doing anything wonky, then you shouldn't worry about it. if you're running it at 1.5ghz and you're experiencing stability issues, random force closes that aren't fixable through conventional methods, or heat issues, you should probably back off a bit.
some people have problems at 1.2ghz, some people are running at 1.9ghz all the time and never have problems... just find what works best for normal usage with your device and go with it.. it's not like we keep these things for more than a couple of years anyway, and the processor will be capable of handling the [stable] overclock for that period of time.
im always at 1.2ghz. 768 as min, interactive gov (when i use CM7) and battery has been fine, havent noticed any major issues. hard to tell if it was the rom bugs or OC being the issue but from what i read all my issues others have at various speeds so im guessing it was rom related
i think it depends on the rom.
when i use the Pyromod rom i dont need overclock but for other roms like sense roms those I require OC. I always keep it at 1400 when needed.
Kernel is not stable, and development is on hold
Ok i have created a new kernel for sense based roms, including my rom TurboFire.
Features
Allows overclocking upto 864MHz
Default is 600/245 screen on 245/245 screen off
Supports ext2/3/4
Supports swap
As always make a backup first before flashing this.
This kernel includes the andrev_oc overclocking daemon. It is a native written program than changes the frequency based on phone state. This is better than the smartass govenor as you have more control, and its more stable, quicker and more effective than using setcpu to control frequencies based on phone state.
It can be controlled by OC/UV Beater which is included in the .zip. You must uninstall all cpu control apps first or it will automatically deactivate.
Remember when overclocking, use TEMP activate for a few minutes before using perm activate to make sure it is stable.
This does not work with CM7 or ICS based roms, so dont try it, I will work on a CM7 version tomorrow.
Download links:
V1:http://djpc.org.uk/roms/TurboKernelV1-by-djpc.zip
V2:http://djpc.org.uk/roms/TurboKernelV2-by-djpc.zip
V3:http://djpc.org.uk/roms/TurboKernelV3-by-djpc.zip
OC daemon and control:http://djpc.org.uk/roms/OC-Turbo-deamon.zip
Changelog:
V2
Wifi maybe fixed (need testers)
Changed acpu tables - new max overclock 864MHz
V3
Kernel and daemon are now seperate for testing purposes
Hopefully fixed (fingers crossed)
OK im sorry guys, i jumped the gun a little on this phone, unfortunatly the way the processor's clock generator works we can only have multiples of a certain frequency, which leaves us capped at 864MHz, this is a physical barrier associated with the way the hardware was made and no dev will be able to change this.
I hope to have voltage tweaking working at some point so people can run there devices at higher frequencies.
The beta 2 roms link is down
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eoghan2t7 said:
The beta 2 roms link is down
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Fixed the link
I'm guessing it's not supported on the MarvelC?
Prenominal said:
I'm guessing it's not supported on the MarvelC?
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There is currently no marvelc support, but i plan on building a marvelc kernel tomorrow
Great! Can't wait, I wish you luck. I'm really hoping more development steps on the scene for MarvelC.
I hope my phone dosent blow up.
I have trouble overclocking to 787 mhz, I don't think about 1.5 Ghz, but I am willing to try.
Wildfire S powered by CM 7.2
It will if you pick 1.5. Be CAREFUL.
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wifi not working.
I cant overclock my WFS because in this program I cant change frequency
Rom: HENSE ROM V3 with stock kernel after that I flash your kernel/
How the hell would phone with 600MHz proc work on 1.5GHz ?
Nightshadow931 said:
How the hell would phone with 600MHz proc work on 1.5GHz ?
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Never can't be true, 806 is the max. Even I cant reach 806 Mhz.
He just wants to be popular .
But the extra features are great if the kernel would work well .
OC doesn't work. Max is 600 mhz
At 1.5GHz it would be as hot as holding the sun in your hand lol
Would simply burn your CPU out!!!
Be careful guys.
just add another core to ws
Sry, but are you crazy announcing 1.5 ghz, even the desire s with a stock speed of 1 ghz is only up to 1.8 ghz stable, that would mean the wfs could only be overclocked to 1ghz without getting unstable, but it would also get hot with this speed.
Swyped from my desire s running damn sweet ice cream
I set 1.5GHz as the max as that number is an arbitrary number, im not expecting people to achieve this (if the kernel work properly anyway) and i doubt the phone would be stable enough to even get hot at that speed; i set it there so people can try as high as they dare rather than as high as the kernel maker wants them to go. As for those saying that anything above 800mhz is impossible, im trying to get voltage control working so that you can increase the voltage slightly (this i will cap to sensible values or else you can fry stuff) so you can hit higher numbers. My desire z has run at 1.9GHz before, from stock of 800MHz, and im not a lucky one. I know its a totaly different phone but these MSM phones can overclock really well normally.
I am going to look into the wifi today and get that fixed as well as fixing the frequency table, as well as having higher frequency's i will have more in the 600-800 mhz region for those who have phones that dont like to be overclocked. I also hope to build a CM7 version and one for the marvelc as they have been left in the cold atm for OC kernels.
PS: This dev work is difficult for me as i dont personally own a WFS for testing, if people want to get this kernel and coming roms working fast with no bugs i need people to read the dev team thread and join the irc, we already have a few guys in there and when things have gotten going it is very productive, benjamin as nearly gotten the touchscreen working for ICS now
Good work, can you check your pm's?
I ask again here, can you edit jikantaru's kernel so max is 600 Mhz and not 806 Mhz?
Thanks
New version uploaded, read first post for details, if you encounter issues come and chat with us at #wfsdevteam on freenode IRC
I heard there was a problem with stability issues before. Has it been fixed?
Also, do any of you guys feel the need to OC in the first place?
iArtisan said:
I heard there was a problem with stability issues before. Has it been fixed?
Also, do any of you guys feel the need to OC in the first place?
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I tried OC'ing to 1,4 for a short time, didnt get any instabilities.
Which leads me to question two. No I don't feel the need to OC this phone, it is still good enough to cope with everything i throw at it.
The worst that will happen is that it will run a little hotter than normal. I was running Trinity Kernel on RasCream ROM clocked at 1.5GHz and it was fine, nothing crashed, no reboots, all was well.
Besides; It's a Nexus, it was built for this!
This varies for everyone
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Meh. It all varies. No 2 chipsets are the same. What may work for someone else may not work for you. Trial and error is the only surefire way to find out.
Hi,
I agree with what has been said above, all the CPU's are not equal but actually the progress made by the kernel devs allows all (or almost) phones to run at 1.3* Ghz (1.34/1.35 Ghz, it depends of the kernel) without any issues.I think it's for all, actually I don't remember a user with issues at 1.3* Ghz...
And for most phones 1.5 Ghz is fine.For some others, above 1.5 Ghz is problematic but it depends also of too many factors.
Now it's not like it when the Genx came out, where 1.3 Ghz was the limit of CPU overclock for all the phones.
And many people can run stable at 1.65 Ghz, also it depends of the kernel.
For me for example my max CPU freq usable each day, so stable is 1.72 Ghz with Glados kernel, above (like 1.8 Ghz) it runs fine for 30 mins, sometimes 1 hour, but after always freeze/reboot... maybe my CPU can't reach this CPU freq or maybe my settings are wrong (voltage) ...
I agree, an extreme overclock like 1.72 Ghz is not really necessary for all day (heat, battery life, etc...) but a little overclock like 1.5/1.53 Ghz and you a difference in certain case (openning some apps, general UI, browsing, etc...).
But if we have the ability to test and play...why not... ,in any case for me it's yes, I like overclock and test the possibilities/limits of my phone, different settings...
Everyone does as he wants and it depends on what you want (battery life,a little more power in some situation like playing or a higher bench score ).
Well considering Texas instruments recommended highest clock speed for this processor is 1.5 ghz I'd say your fine. Anything above that is dependent on how well your chip set will handle it. Besides who honestly has needed to OC for anything other than benchmarks?
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