tempted to buy but... - Moto 360

I'm really tempted to buy the moto 360 but MWC is just around the corner. Should I hold out for the second generation? Anyone know when itl be released? Wanted some advice from current owners. Is there anything you feel the first gen is severely lacking which might be in the second generation. Battery isn't an issue for me as I'll happily charge everyday. Anybodu used it with a nexus 5? What is the perofrmace like? Any problems with it disconnecting?.
Any thoughts/advice greatly appreciated.

OK so I've decided I'm going to buy a second hand moto 360.
Anything in particular I need to look out for apart from general wear?
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mo123456789 said:
OK so I've decided I'm going to buy a second hand moto 360.
Anything in particular I need to look out for apart from general wear?
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Look out for? As in things that can go wrong? Oddly enough I am on my 3rd Moto 360. The first one had a dead pixel and didnt play nice with any other Qi charger aside from the Moto one. The second one, 2 dead pixels, and yep I returned both. Sure a dead pixel isnt a HUGE deal, but on a 250.00 watch that had this issue right out of the box, I didnt agree with that. Not to mention that once I seen the single or double dead ones, I knew they were there and my eyes constantly gravitated to it! . Oddly enough, both of these were gray banded and silver watch. After waiting a few months, I decided to pick up a black one (Yay tax returns!) , and not 1 single dead pixel, and my old wireless charging mat actually works fine
So check for dead pixels and the infamous cracked back that people are reporting on theirs (which I think would come from using a different band thats not made for the 360)

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Look out for? As in things that can go wrong? Oddly enough I am on my 3rd Moto 360. The first one had a dead pixel and didnt play nice with any other Qi charger aside from the Moto one. The second one, 2 dead pixels, and yep I returned both. Sure a dead pixel isnt a HUGE deal, but on a 250.00 watch that had this issue right out of the box, I didnt agree with that. Not to mention that once I seen the single or double dead ones, I knew they were there and my eyes constantly gravitated to it! . Oddly enough, both of these were gray banded and silver watch. After waiting a few months, I decided to pick up a black one (Yay tax returns!) , and not 1 single dead pixel, and my old wireless charging mat actually works fine
So check for dead pixels and the infamous cracked back that people are reporting on theirs (which I think would come from using a different band thats not made for the 360)
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Thanks for your insight! I have a 1 dead pixel on my 40 inch TV and because I know its there its probably one of the most annoying things!
I will be checking the moto 360 out later on today. It is the black one and comes with both a leather and metal strap. He currently has the metal strap fitted. Are the cracks easy to see or will i need a magnifying glass?! Are there any reports of the vibration motor not working correctly or any thing regarding software which I should check before buying?

mo123456789 said:
Thanks for your insight! I have a 1 dead pixel on my 40 inch TV and because I know its there its probably one of the most annoying things!
I will be checking the moto 360 out later on today. It is the black one and comes with both a leather and metal strap. He currently has the metal strap fitted. Are the cracks easy to see or will i need a magnifying glass?! Are there any reports of the vibration motor not working correctly or any thing regarding software which I should check before buying?
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I havent heard much about the motor crapping out and as for the cracks, just search google since they seem to vary in size. But also as I mentioned, they "seem" to stem from the use of 3rd party watch bands. I just got the official 360 black metal band to go with my black watch, and seeing how Motorola included these little plastic tabs that fit into the slots to fill in the gaps, I can see how aftermarket straps could possibly damage it.
FYI, if the metal strap that comes with the watch is the one for the Pebble watch, be prepared to have any and all hairs on your wrist ripped out!

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REVIEW: LG G Pad 8.3 Generic TPU "X-Style" Case

Hi everyone, I've FINALLY received this case from AliExpress:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs...Soft-back-case-for-LG-G-Pad-8/1532446130.html
As promised, here's a YouTube Video Review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV0AN_YhXpw
TL;DR verdict: It's cheap, it's black, and overall it works well. Fit is solid, all ports work out (except the SD card slot, which is covered - but that's hardly a dealbreaker), and it doesn't add any significant weight. Does not interfere with the speakers.
Would buy, but not from AliExpress. No fault to the vendor (who was pleasantly responsive to my inquiries), but on eBay you can now pick it up for $6 CDN shipped.
Thanks for reading and watching!
Mark
Impromark said:
Hi everyone, I've FINALLY received this case from AliExpress:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs...Soft-back-case-for-LG-G-Pad-8/1532446130.html
As promised, here's a YouTube Video Review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV0AN_YhXpw
TL;DR verdict: It's cheap, it's black, and overall it works well. Fit is solid, all ports work out (except the SD card slot, which is covered - but that's hardly a dealbreaker), and it doesn't add any significant weight. Does not interfere with the speakers.
Would buy, but not from AliExpress. No fault to the vendor (who was pleasantly responsive to my inquiries), but on eBay you can now pick it up for $6 CDN shipped.
Thanks for reading and watching!
Mark
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Fellow Canuck here who bought the tablet in the USA at bestbuy. Where did you get yours?
Have you tried to use the remote? Seems only US cable providers are listed. Same for you?
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Fellow Canuck here who bought the tablet in the USA at bestbuy. Where did you get yours?
Have you tried to use the remote? Seems only US cable providers are listed. Same for you?
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Mine was also sourced from the States as Newegg in Canada didn't have it at the time, Best Buy here STILL doesn't, and $259 USD on sale was worth the trouble of getting it brought up here by a family member.
The Quick Remote app DOES work on my Telus cable setup. I used the AT&T option and it works just fine. I don't know if Rogers, etc. would work, but one of the options just might be an equivalent. Good luck!
Mark
Impromark said:
Mine was also sourced from the States as Newegg in Canada didn't have it at the time, Best Buy here STILL doesn't, and $259 USD on sale was worth the trouble of getting it brought up here by a family member.
The Quick Remote app DOES work on my Telus cable setup. I used the AT&T option and it works just fine. I don't know if Rogers, etc. would work, but one of the options just might be an equivalent. Good luck!
Mark
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Am on videotron they use a cisco or samsung cable box.
Canadoc said:
Am on videotron they use a cisco or samsung cable box.
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Ah, so you're out East.. I don't think Vidéotron equipment is any different than those used in the States, nor would it be unique to Quebec or wherever you are. I suggest just going through the available selections and see if one works for you. That's what I did.
Mark
Will do. You ate on cable or satellite? What is the make If the cable box
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Will do. You ate on cable or satellite? What is the make If the cable box
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Telus digital cable. I'll check the make of the box, but honestly the best thing is to cycle through the available options in the Q Remote. I found AT&T compatibility within two minutes, though to be fair I went alphabetically.
Mark
Did that and found 2cable companies that worked. Weird that thistablet still has not been released in canada where lg traditionally sells well.I imagine there will need to be a Canadian version of the lg software to include Canadian cable companies. Right now there are 3versions of the firmware. A,C,E. Am guessing it's American Europe and China.
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By the way how it's your battery life.that and the little blue line are my only issues and they are not enough for me to consider returning this tablet. Had a nexus 7 2013 model beforewhich had brighter screen but I lost it forgetting it on the airplane. Having a note 3I felt the nexus 7was too similar in size. This is the perfect size for a tablet. Wish there were more accessories. Bought the ivso case and will use that when I need to but prefer it caselessSri if they ever had a case cover like the iPad mini would love that
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Canadoc said:
By the way how it's your battery life.that and the little blue line are my only issues and they are not enough for me to consider returning this tablet. Had a nexus 7 2013 model beforewhich had brighter screen but I lost it forgetting it on the airplane. Having a note 3I felt the nexus 7was too similar in size. This is the perfect size for a tablet. Wish there were more accessories. Bought the ivso case and will use that when I need to but prefer it caselessSri if they ever had a case cover like the iPad mini would love that
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Drifting from topic, but my battery life is about the same as most reviews. I haven't put it through any rigorous testing, but when watching movies or YouTube on the unit it holds up any two hours in a row that I'd need it, I have it plugged in while at my desk at work, and standby time is awesome. I noticed the blue line, but I had to look really, REALLY hard for it so in practice it's not an issue for me. No appreciable light bleed either. I use it indoors so brightness isn't a huge issue, but for the list price it should have been brighter.
This is a keeper for me - I'm keeping this case as well and may get the IVSO in Red when it becomes available on Amazon.ca in a couple months. I miss a cover for the actual screen on this thing, but as long as I'm not outside or traveling (I *do* travel for work, so we'll see in the long run) this will do just fine.
Mark
Hey guys,
Nice review Mark! I was looking to get a silicon case quickly and this was the cheapest to do that so I got one from eBay, shipping from Germany to the UK and it's already been dispatched so should be here next week sort of time. I got it in red and will have some photos up when it arrives.
The VOIA case looks nice but, I will see how this one turns out before I get that guy, I have done the whole folding cover thing with the N7 and they never got used so I will stick with silicon this time around
Tom.
No worries Toyface! I've had the TPU case for a week now and have already taken it on a business trip with me. I find it unobtrusive and very comfortable to hold in one hand, with the grippy texture on the back. The volume and power buttons are not tougher to use at all. I've even gotten used to the fingerprints on the shiny parts. The ONLY downside is that on some of the USB plugs I've used since the video, some of them do deform the rubber on the lip a little. I doubt this will be a long term issue though, it springs right back when I unplug it.
On real-life bumps: when the tablet slid off of a chair during an airplane landing (my bad, it was sitting on my coat and fell off as the plane was braking), it landed face down and had no damage. Incidentally, my headphone jack was plugged in and while the jack was bent, the tablet was undamaged and kept working with the earphones. Point LG!
Finally, when I carry this thing around outside, I use a slipcase for an old Acer netbook. Not the most ideal shape, and I may get a more form-fitting one eventually, but it works. It's to the point where I may not get the IVSO / generic flip case after all, as this is working just fine for me.
Please post some pics of your red version when you get it!
Mark
So, my case arrived a couple of days ago. Post from Germany to England was very good and the eBay seller (phonenatic) was pretty great really.
So far,I think the case is pretty good, but I hate the color. It's supposed to be red, but in reality it's more pinkish than anything else. Cutouts are all good (as you see in the photos) and it has thick lip around the screen so landing flat shouldn't be too bad there. This one came with two screen protectors, I fitted one then removed it a day later, I just hate screen protectors. it was very easy to get on there though.
Tom.
Thanks for posting those pics! You're right, with the white version of the G Pad in there the red is muted somewhat to look more pinkish... I'm wondering if it'd look darked with a black version in there.
Mark

For those curious about that plastic insert on metal banded 360s...

When I saw the plastic inserts on the metal band Moto 360, I got excited because I thought Moto had finally rectified the issue with the potential cracking back. I was hoping/assuming that it would be a softer plastic insert to absorb some of the pressure put on it by the metal band. Well, if you take a look at the attached pics, you will see that, unfortunately, I was wrong. The plastic is VERY brittle. I was wearing the watch when I tilted my wrist reaching for something and heard a snap/pop sound. I thought for sure the back just cracked, but it had not. Instead the part of the plastic insert that sits between the band and the back completely snapped off. Now, (it's kind of hard to tell but) it looks like the metal is now pushing up against the back. It's obvious that metal beats plastic as evidenced by the fate of the insert. So I'd imagine it's only a very short matter of time before the back cracks. Oh, and this happened LESS THAN 24 HOURS after purchasing the watch. I'm wondering if maybe the insert may have been slightly cracked to begin with because the other one seems fine. Also, this is already my SECOND metal 360, as the first had what was either a tiny bubble or some sort of reflective debris under the screen.
Has anybody else had this issue with the inserts? I'm wondering if I should exchange it, or just get a refund and wait for the 2nd gen Moto 360. Other than this issue, I REALLY LOVE this watch, which is why I'm struggling with returning it.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I do have tiny, girly-man wrists, and I wear the watch somewhat loose as I like to wear my watches lower on my wrist (closer to my hand, pretty much resting on it).
Pictures:
1) Pic of broken insert
2) Pic of other side still intact
3) Profile shot to see the difference when hanging. Can see the broken side resting against the back.
charesa39 said:
When I saw the plastic inserts on the metal band Moto 360, I got excited because I thought Moto had finally rectified the issue with the potential cracking back. I was hoping/assuming that it would be a softer plastic insert to absorb some of the pressure put on it by the metal band. Well, if you take a look at the attached pics, you will see that, unfortunately, I was wrong. The plastic is VERY brittle. I was wearing the watch when I tilted my wrist reaching for something and heard a snap/pop sound. I thought for sure the back just cracked, but it had not. Instead the part of the plastic insert that sits between the band and the back completely snapped off. Now, (it's kind of hard to tell but) it looks like the metal is now pushing up against the back. It's obvious that metal beats plastic as evidenced by the fate of the insert. So I'd imagine it's only a very short matter of time before the back cracks. Oh, and this happened LESS THAN 24 HOURS after purchasing the watch. I'm wondering if maybe the insert may have been slightly cracked to begin with because the other one seems fine. Also, this is already my SECOND metal 360, as the first had what was either a tiny bubble or some sort of reflective debris under the screen.
Has anybody else had this issue with the inserts? I'm wondering if I should exchange it, or just get a refund and wait for the 2nd gen Moto 360. Other than this issue, I REALLY LOVE this watch, which is why I'm struggling with returning it.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I do have tiny, girly-man wrists, and I wear the watch somewhat loose as I like to wear my watches lower on my wrist (closer to my hand, pretty much resting on it).
Pictures:
1) Pic of broken insert
2) Pic of other side still intact
3) Profile shot to see the difference when hanging. Can see the broken side resting against the back.
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Wow... Just wow is all I have to say.
Premium materials. Hyped for ever.
Think I'm just gonna stick with my leather for now and remember this going forward.
charesa39 said:
When I saw the plastic inserts on the metal band Moto 360, I got excited because I thought Moto had finally rectified the issue with the potential cracking back. I was hoping/assuming that it would be a softer plastic insert to absorb some of the pressure put on it by the metal band. Well, if you take a look at the attached pics, you will see that, unfortunately, I was wrong. The plastic is VERY brittle. I was wearing the watch when I tilted my wrist reaching for something and heard a snap/pop sound. I thought for sure the back just cracked, but it had not. Instead the part of the plastic insert that sits between the band and the back completely snapped off. Now, (it's kind of hard to tell but) it looks like the metal is now pushing up against the back. It's obvious that metal beats plastic as evidenced by the fate of the insert. So I'd imagine it's only a very short matter of time before the back cracks. Oh, and this happened LESS THAN 24 HOURS after purchasing the watch. I'm wondering if maybe the insert may have been slightly cracked to begin with because the other one seems fine. Also, this is already my SECOND metal 360, as the first had what was either a tiny bubble or some sort of reflective debris under the screen.
Has anybody else had this issue with the inserts? I'm wondering if I should exchange it, or just get a refund and wait for the 2nd gen Moto 360. Other than this issue, I REALLY LOVE this watch, which is why I'm struggling with returning it.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I do have tiny, girly-man wrists, and I wear the watch somewhat loose as I like to wear my watches lower on my wrist (closer to my hand, pretty much resting on it).
Pictures:
1) Pic of broken insert
2) Pic of other side still intact
3) Profile shot to see the difference when hanging. Can see the broken side resting against the back.
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Mine just snapped, same thing. No way in * am i going to send this back and wait four months for a replacement that will most likely have dead pixels or other issues after the h**l ive been through getting this one shipped to me from them the first time and all the cracked backs for other people with OEM bands that are leather. If they refuse to send me replacement plastic links at no cost free expedited shipping I'm going to file every consumer fraud report on them that exists after the bs they are putting me and others through with the nexus 6.
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Ryan: Hi, my name is Ryan. How may I help you?
Gary: Hi My name is Gary, My email is ************@gmail.com, I just spoke to a representative Eddie over at moto maker online chat support, reference number 141129-015287. I have a 22mm natural steel moto360(Serial #P0******GX) that I have had for less then a week. Before this version I had the horween leather version bought from best buy, I returned the leather version within 14 days because the back of the watch cracked from the leather strap putting pressure on the plastic back(Sic design flaw). I ordered the 22mm natural steel band version from you directly online at your site with moto care insurance. Today the plastic link that you added between the 22mm steel watch band and the watch body to correct said design flaw snapped on one side -- this IS a user serviceable part, when you purchase the 22mm natural steel watch band for $80 seperately it comes with this tiny plastic peice, and users are able to get new metal links sent to them when requested as well which are much harder to put on yet are STILL user serviceable parts. Well, Eddie insured me I could have a replacement plastic link protector peice sent to me and gave me this number to call to speak to the moto360 specialists: 866-320-4780 Well I called them, I spoke to jose who told me that I would have to return the watch and wait two weeks for a full replacement, this is absurd, there's not a damn thing wrong with the watch or watch band, I demanded to speak to the manager, and Jose hung up on me. I'm not returning my watch and going without it for two weeks after the hell ive been through just to get a tiny plastic peice worth less than a penny -- if that's the case I'll just wait until the back of the watch completely snaps or smash it myself because you guys created a faulty design and then motorola is out more money not me as they will have to replace it no questions asked. If there's some other resolution here I would be glad to hear about it as would everyone else with this problem over on xda and the other android forums who I will be reporting to with our chat transcript, any support is appreciated.
Gary: See this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...nsert-metal-banded-360s-t2953580#post57120023
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Ryan: This is for repair?
Gary: Yes.
Ryan: I do apologize for that.
Ryan: Let me transfer you to right department, is that okay?
Gary: It seems like alot of time and trouble to go through to get the tiny plastic user servicable part.. you know? Thank you. That would be very appreciated.
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Mak: Hi, my name is Mak. How may I help you?
Gary: Hi Mak, I'm not sure if you can, I hope so! Are you able to see the previous chat transcripts?
Gary: Let me say ahead of time I'm in a real bad mood after dealing with some of the phone support guys at moto, so please don't take it personally.
Mak: I understand you with that.
Mak: Yes I can see the previous chat transcript.
Mak: Please give me a minute to read it first.
Gary: If this isn't a user servicable part you guys can send out -- you really have to make it one.
Gary: the watch band is supposed to be user changable.. it's just a tiny plastic peice that slips over the band when you attach the band.
Gary: They added it to prevent the problems that were happening with the backs cracking on the leather versions.
Mak: Will this for the Moto 360 device?
Gary: Yeah exactly. the 22mm natural steel moto360
Gary: In this link there are photos of the peice: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...nsert-metal-banded-360s-t2953580#post57120023
Gary: there's alot of people that are popping up on the various android forums that are having this issue.
Mak: In this case sir since you have reached the Technical support for Android phones, I have to give you a call and transfer you over to our Moto 360 department.
Gary: Would it be possible to get the number for the moto360 specialists? was it the correct number before?
Gary: It seems silly that they want to spend the time and employee resources instead of sending me the tiny plastic peice that's worth less then a penny
Gary: they don't have them to spare with the nexus 6 stuff going on
Mak: Sure. Please give me one minute.
Mak: Here is the number that you can call 8663204780.
Gary: That's a bummer, that's the number I called previously..
Gary: Is there a way you could escalate this to some one in charge of moto360 returns and repairs? they really need to be made aware of this issue
Gary: if we are allowed to change watch bands ourselves.. and this plastic peice is a part of the band.. it seems it should be a user servicable part
Mak: Yes. I will and I will let our higher management know about this as well.
Gary: Thank You Mak.
Gary: I really appreciate that
Mak: You are very much welcome.
Mak: Will there be anything else?
Gary: I'll try again with the moto360 phone support. Have a good holiday season mak
Mak: Happy holiday as well Sir.
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So i'm just going to wear it until the back snaps, then take a sledgehammer to it and send it back to them in peices in an envelope for return.
I'll continue to do this until they fix the user support problems, eventually they will get tired of me costing them money on watches.
I just want to add, that after being passed around alot more online chat support people who were "in the wrong department to assist me" and being hung up on a few times I finally found my way to the moto360 forum on motorola.com's official website.
I posted my problem there and I was actually able to get some real help from people that knew what I was talking about, and it seems like this issue is going to be passed up the food chain so that hopefully I and others in the future who break this plastic protector peice do not have to do a full rma return procedure.
Nothing has come of it yet, but it sounds promising, I will update when further progress is made.
garymaurizi said:
I just want to add, that after being passed around alot more online chat support people who were "in the wrong department to assist me" and being hung up on a few times I finally found my way to the moto360 forum on motorola.com's official website.
I posted my problem there and I was actually able to get some real help from people that knew what I was talking about, and it seems like this issue is going to be passed up the food chain so that hopefully I and others in the future who break this plastic protector peice do not have to do a full rma return procedure.
Nothing has come of it yet, but it sounds promising, I will update when further progress is made.
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Yeah. I decided to return mine and not even bother with an exchange. I don't want to have to worry about RMAing it every month for a cracked back, especially since it appears to be a lottery on whether you get a good unit or not. Since I LOVED having an Android Wear device, I knew I'd miss having one. So I lucked out and picked up a LG G Watch for $80 + a $50 Google Play credit from Best Buy yesterday (so probably cost me like $40 after selling the code for like $40). Yeah, it's not as pretty as the Moto 360 is, but that price was too good to pass up. Hopefully, it should get me by until they fix the issue or come out with the 2nd gen 360. Having notifications at a glance is so much more convenient than I ever thought it would be. Good luck to you and everyone waiting for them to rectify the issue. I really do hope Moto get their act together for you guys.
My watch had the black plastic piece break as well after two weeks. Of course it happened after the two week best buy return period. The black piece is still installed, just had a few pieces break off. I figure I'll wait a week or two for a Motorola response.
I'm on my 2nd watch. Bought it from BestBuy and got the 2 year replacement too. They took the first one back because of the cracked back. It was a full semicircle from each side of the band. I googled a bit and found Moto saying its a warranty issue for cracking backs. I'm extra cautious now with mine. Even if its not an issue and no one ever sees it, I know the crack is there. I have about 21 months still of replacements from BestBuy. My bet is that a new model will be out within 2 years and eventually I'll get store credit towards a new one.
One of my little black spacers just cracked too. Only been wearing the watch since Christmas. Any updates on the people just trying to get this one piece replaced?
Ill have to try to contact moto when I get off of work today.
I received my 360 for Christmas from my wife (silver metal band)...the day after Christmas, I felt something poking my wrist while wearing the watch...one of the black spacers was cracked and had a sharp point on it.
I had tried going the route of chat help and calling the support number...
Every rep I spoke to (about 5) was telling me that they do not make these spacers for individual replacement. I would have to send my watch in to have it repaired...or I could purchase a new band and it would come with the new spacers. I told them that this was absolutely unacceptable to me.
...I went to Twitter and asked for help with this issue...that afternoon I received a response from them asking for my name and information. I was told that someone would be in touch with me soon (which I was expecting the run around again). To my surprise, when I came home from work the next day...there was a fedex envelope for me containing 4 spacers.
Needless to say, the sharp piece ended up falling off but the band still feels pretty solid. I have opted to hold off on replacing it until I actually need one, but I'm grateful that they were able to replace it (and send me a few extras just in case).
Help is out there...just have to go to a public audience to get it
I have questions about the help you get from the Moto chat...one rep was telling me that they do not use any plastic on the metal band version, that I must have purchased a different device or a counterfeit and that I would have to go to a local jeweler for help fixing my watch.
agentaaron said:
I received my 360 for Christmas from my wife (silver metal band)...the day after Christmas, I felt something poking my wrist while wearing the watch...one of the black spacers was cracked and had a sharp point on it.
I had tried going the route of chat help and calling the support number...
Every rep I spoke to (about 5) was telling me that they do not make these spacers for individual replacement. I would have to send my watch in to have it repaired...or I could purchase a new band and it would come with the new spacers. I told them that this was absolutely unacceptable to me.
...I went to Twitter and asked for help with this issue...that afternoon I received a response from them asking for my name and information. I was told that someone would be in touch with me soon (which I was expecting the run around again). To my surprise, when I came home from work the next day...there was a fedex envelope for me containing 4 spacers.
Needless to say, the sharp piece ended up falling off but the band still feels pretty solid. I have opted to hold off on replacing it until I actually need one, but I'm grateful that they were able to replace it (and send me a few extras just in case).
Help is out there...just have to go to a public audience to get it
I have questions about the help you get from the Moto chat...one rep was telling me that they do not use any plastic on the metal band version, that I must have purchased a different device or a counterfeit and that I would have to go to a local jeweler for help fixing my watch.
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Glad you got replacements. I'm going to try the twitter route. Which twitter account did you contact? @motorolasupport ?
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Well after reading about all the cracked backs due to the steel bands I have decided on remains with my leather band.
The design of the 360 is fantastic look wise but has an inherently bad flaw due to the position of the band and pin locations. Yes there is a design flaw.
I have had other Moto products, I had a Moto x first generation and very familiar with moto's design flaws. The Moto x had a Kevlar back which cracked and yes mine did crack in around the volume and power buttons.
I guess sometimes beautiful designs don't always work as planned.
I do think Moto has and will improve upon their next generation Moto 360 or design pin attachments that sits tight in the band slot.
If I had the right tools or time I could easily design an attachment that would prevent the steel band from cracking the plastic back.
flashallthetime said:
If I had the right tools or time I could easily design an attachment that would prevent the steel band from cracking the plastic back.
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Like this https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1183644800/steelconnect-m-adapters-for-moto360-smartwatch
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jarsh92 said:
Glad you got replacements. I'm going to try the twitter route. Which twitter account did you contact? @motorolasupport ?
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agentaaron said:
Like this https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1183644800/steelconnect-m-adapters-for-moto360-smartwatch
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Pretty close, although I would prefer if that extension pin would be fixed. I would have also preferred if screws would be used rather than the typical expansion wrist band pins, this would allow for much easier and user friendly customization
Just and update. Going the twitter route worked out well. Received two plastic spacers today priority through FedEx. All I had to really do was send a pic in an email.
I did go ahead and order the m180 from steelconnect for when these spacers break. Might have to get another band as the moto band probably won't look right with it. Will have to wait and see.
Overall I was impressed with the moto support I had through twitter/email.
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I received my 360 for Christmas from my wife (silver metal band)...the day after Christmas, I felt something poking my wrist while wearing the watch...one of the black spacers was cracked and had a sharp point on it.
I had tried going the route of chat help and calling the support number...
Every rep I spoke to (about 5) was telling me that they do not make these spacers for individual replacement. I would have to send my watch in to have it repaired...or I could purchase a new band and it would come with the new spacers. I told them that this was absolutely unacceptable to me.
...I went to Twitter and asked for help with this issue...that afternoon I received a response from them asking for my name and information. I was told that someone would be in touch with me soon (which I was expecting the run around again). To my surprise, when I came home from work the next day...there was a fedex envelope for me containing 4 spacers.
Needless to say, the sharp piece ended up falling off but the band still feels pretty solid. I have opted to hold off on replacing it until I actually need one, but I'm grateful that they were able to replace it (and send me a few extras just in case).
Help is out there...just have to go to a public audience to get it
I have questions about the help you get from the Moto chat...one rep was telling me that they do not use any plastic on the metal band version, that I must have purchased a different device or a counterfeit and that I would have to go to a local jeweler for help fixing my watch.
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Congratulations on getting some help through twitter! What users helped you out in receiving your information?
call this 1-800-734-5870
they are aware. they are sending me a pair and i requested if possible to give me 4pcs and they said yes.
i hope the plastic on my black metal band doesn't give out
since i'm in Canada, i'm not sure i'll receive the same level of support
I guess it pays to have a big wrist. I've had my 360 since September with a bunch of different bands both metal and leather with no cracked back. But, with a big wrist the band leaves the watch perpendicular to the housing and doesn't touch the back.
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FULL DISCLOSURE: I do have tiny, girly-man wrists, and I wear the watch somewhat loose as I like to wear my watches lower on my wrist (closer to my hand, pretty much resting on it).
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If you wear your watch literally on your wrist where your joint moves, then this will be the reason why you were able to break the plastic inserts. By wearing it on my arm, no matter how far I bend my wrist naturally, it doesn't cause any pressure that could break the plastic inserts or the back.
It's likely how you're wearing the watch that's the cause.
deltatux

Moto 360 3 Days old Metal Band has cracks in plastic where it inserts into the watch

Well all and all this kinda bums me out but i'm kinda happy in the end because when I fist seen it I was thinking it was the watch its self but after looking at others watches with other bands on them. it appears my watch band is cracked (chipped). Not sure if I want to try and swap it at Best Buy, Add the 2 year warranty (Witch I usually feel is a rip off) , try and take the plastic pieces out, Leave it alone (but I still might add the warranty?)???? What do you guys think? Did anyone else get their extended 2 year warranty for 50$? I just have a hard time coughing that up when 299$ was allot for me to come off of in the fist place. In all reality I don't want to return it I love the watch and I'am really happy to watch Android wear grow through its early stages just as i did Android. but this is all a bit frustrating for a Device in some ways i'm so happy with.
P.S. On another note can't wait to see the New watch Faces I have herd about that we might see this week and Lollipop 5.0 but I know we have been hearing that for some time now but ill keep my fingers crossed.
Sorry not the best pics its late and not very easy to get a good pic at that angle.
I think you should try to have it swapped for a new one. The crack might have an impact on water resistance, especially when it's as significant as the one you have.
This is super disappointing. I was hoping the plastic spacers would be the solution to the problem....
i bought the watch thinking Hey its Motorola, the best design etc. only to find this VERY VERY flimsy cheap plastic back cover which flex and bends on any presure.. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!?! I waited untill they released the metal band version , paid BOOCOO for it only to find this weak spot on the back. Now I am paranoid about having anything including the band touch the plastic backing. Im expecting any day to have cracks in the back with normal usage. Motorola better replace this thing imediatly when I find ANY cracks, this better be a no brainer exchange at least up to a year after purch. I will not except any excuse for NOT replacing this thing with type of fatal flaw in the design. they knew about the backing. Im sure its fixed in moto2 coming soon.... this seems like the samsung 1 gen watch all over again....
Moto should fix the back ASAP and offer replacement backings or watches to anyone who has paid primi pricing for this first gen watch.
I was contemplating on buying the official metal band, as I thought that the spacers would prevent back cracks. Seems like I just have to wait for my Steelconnect adaptors to arrive.
If you do submit it for RMA, make sure you do the option where you pay for your new watch up front then receive the refund once your watch reaches Motorola.
If you leave it up to Motorola to exchange your watch after they receive it you're going to have a bad time. I don't wish that 26 day experience upon anyone.
From what I can see after taking the band off its only the plastic pieces for the band that are cracked the back of the watch is fine.
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This is super disappointing. I was hoping the plastic spacers would be the solution to the problem....
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Same. I already bought an aftermarket brand metal band and was about to spend the full $80 on the motorola band just to get that plastic spacer. Glad I saw this post first!
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If you do submit it for RMA, make sure you do the option where you pay for your new watch up front then receive the refund once your watch reaches Motorola.
If you leave it up to Motorola to exchange your watch after they receive it you're going to have a bad time. I don't wish that 26 day experience upon anyone.
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This is good advice. I called over the weekend and chose the pay up front option. The replacement watch was at my house by Wednesday, and I am a happy camper. Save for my new fear of the plastic spacers not preventing more cracking....

Banding on gray screen (stripes pattern)

Hi Guys,
Just got my Huawei watch and since I´ve powered it on for the first time I am noticing a weird pattern of stripes on gray screens, on the settings menu for instance (a XDA member told me that's called banding). It´s hard to capture this on camera, but I am posting some pictures so you can see what I am talking about. Have anyone noticed something like that? Is this a problem or it´s nothing and I am overreacting? I couldn´t find any reports on this and this is not (as far as I know) related to the red tint issue.
On an unrelated matter, I also find the crown to be a little wobbly, and not very satisfying to press (it doesn’t make a good clicking sound). Is it supposed to be like this?
I appreciate your help.
Banding. Mine has none at all...I was actually looking for it when I first got the watch.
My button has a little play, but it clicks just fine.
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I don't have that on mine but if it's bad I would exchange it. My button is rock solid and the screen is flawless so I'm glad I received a good one. I don't recommend things unless I know they are good and I like my watch from experience. Its been 3 weeks now and I love it the same as the first time I opened it.
Thank you for the reply!
I didn't know the technical term, thanks. I am going to edit the thread to use the right terminology.
Why did you look for banding? Why were you expecting this problem?
Should I return my watch? It's not so easy for me because I don't live in the US, so I would have to pay international shipping and I would not be able to buy a new one.
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Thank you for the reply!
I didn't know the technical term, thanks. I am going to edit the thread to use the right terminology.
Why did you look for banding? Why were you expecting this problem?
Should I return my watch? It's not so easy for me because I don't live in the US, so I would have to pay international shipping and I would not be able to buy a new one.
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Just one of the things I check when getting a new device.
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Is it a big deal? Can it get worse over time? Cause if it stays the way it is I can deal with it, specially because how hard it is for me to return it.
The first one I picked up had noticeable banding (a little less than yours), so I decided to pick up another one. The second one was worse. I fear it may just be the nature of the technology and I don't have the time and energy to keep gambling for a better unit.
At this point I'm undecided if I'm going to keep the watch. It's a shame as it is a really nice looking device.
Btw - both watches had wobbly buttons, but that isn't really too bothersome.
Thank you very much for your reply! You are the first other person to report this issue. I was starting to think that I had terrible luck with that unit.
Well, mine went back to Amazon. And since I don't live in the US, it's hard for me to try again (have to wait for a friend to go there). And even if I had a second chance, I am not willing to take the risk of getting another bad watch. At this point I am very much considering the new Moto 360. It's got its flaws, but at least it doesn't have such wide spread issues.
Would you consider returning yours and trying the 360? If not, why's that? I would like to learn your opinion.
Thank you again!
Not a problem! I also considered the 2015 Moto 360 (42mm), but decided on the Huawei Watch. The Moto 360 is a very stylish watch and Moto Maker is downright awesome. However, the 2 reasons I chose the Huawei Watch are the reportedly bad dim mode and the "flat tire". I enjoy using WatchMaker to create watch faces and I'd rather not have to design around the flat tire. A friend of mine has the previous Moto 360 and doesn't mind it, though. I think it's more of a subjective issue.
I'm doing my best to get used to the banding and I think that it is only noticeable in straight gray environments (though that includes settings). I have a feeling that I'll notice it less and less over time, but your watch had worse issues than mine and I'm sorry about that.
Yeah, mine was very noticeable.
Do you think I should try a new one? How confident are you that the HW is going to hold up over time?
Do you think that the Moto 360 has a better chance of lasting longer? (no burn in, can charge the battery easily without having to buy a proprietary charger to carry around)?
I would appreciate your opinion.
I know this is a pretty old thread but I didn't want to start a new one for a similar issue. I got my watch today and I notice banding on my display as well. It's mostly visible with solid colors. I'm debating exchanging it with Huawei (I bought it direct through them). I'm trying to determine if this is normal or a defect
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I know this is a pretty old thread but I didn't want to start a new one for a similar issue. I got my watch today and I notice banding on my display as well. It's mostly visible with solid colors. I'm debating exchanging it with Huawei (I bought it direct through them). I'm trying to determine if this is normal or a defect
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I can say for my watch, I have no banding like what you show in the pictures.
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I am sorry to hear about your problem.
My watch had different banding. It was more noticeable in gray screens. It didn't have any banding in solid colors. I ended up returning mine. If it's easy for you I would exchange it. Good luck

Help for the first time (pun?) buyer

Hi all,
I've recently come back into the android fold and I'm currently using the Nexus 6P (fantastic phone btw) and now I'm branching out to other android devices.
I've always wanted a smart watch and I feel now is the time to dive in. After a lot of research that's left me with two options and I'm torn between the Moto 360 (46mm) and the Huawei watch. I've read countless reviews and they both have their pro's and con's, such as cost, display, battery, looks, functionality and I've read into the issues surrounding the charging cradles which only makes my decision more difficult.
I'm all for customization and can spend hours on XDA reading and trying tings regarding my phone and android in general which made me take note of in terms of support and activity the Moto 360 has a lot more attention on XDA, I appreciate that this is most likely due to the Moto 360 being more main stream and has been out for longer, not to mention the V1 lead the charge for android wear but user support is very important to me.
At the moment I'm not sure how I feel about the flat tyre which appears to most of the gripes for the 360 however on investigation several watches faces appear to have overcome this issue to some extent and many users after some time appear to have forgotten all about it, plus it does serve some practicality with the ambient display so it's not all bad.
Any thoughts? Pro's and con's? Have you owned both watches or come from the 360?
Hua Wei watch has sapphire crystal. Enough said.
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Sounds like you want moto 360. Both are great. Huawei watch much more nicer and more classy expensive looking. Moto has it in bigger size as well, so if u like bigger watch faces then you need moto.
I personally love my black Huawei. It is worth every penny. I could care less about customization and user support forums. I buy technology to help me save time in my busy life. I don't have time nor the interest to be reinventing android wear on my watch.
Sapphire
sinple said:
Hua Wei watch has sapphire crystal. Enough said.
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Bingo! Can't say enough about the durability of this watch also. Only wish it were more water proof.
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I don't believe the moto has a speaker either.....does it? Plus have you seen the display on the moto in ambient mode? Holy s...! It's completely pixilated. When I'm inside the house,office,mall, anywhere other than outside,the huawei ambient mode is easily visible, and completely crystal clear. No pixelation. The watches are in these ambient modes most of the time,especially if you have tilt to wake off like me. Please watch videos on you tube comparing this ambient mode with the moto.....its so nasty and ghetto looking.
My decision came down to the fact that the Moto 360 had a flat tire. I wanted a fully circular watch. I think the biggest downside to the Huawei Watch is the horrible charging mechanism. It's a pain to work with especially when I have to quickly charge my watch using a portable charger and throw it in my bag.
Hi all,
After much consideration I ended up ordering the 46mm Moto 360. It basically came down to price at the end of the day. The Huawei watch is £329 with the standard leather strap, I was able to order via a discount code a 46mm Moto 360 with a 22mm metal band and a micro Knurl Bezel for £280. Both are added extras above the standard Moto 360.
I may come back to the Huawei watch as I'm still concerned about the flat tyre and pixel density, however given the extras, screen size and the cost I felt it was too good of an option to let go.
Thanks for all the advice above!
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My decision came down to the fact that the Moto 360 had a flat tire. I wanted a fully circular watch. I think the biggest downside to the Huawei Watch is the horrible charging mechanism. It's a pain to work with especially when I have to quickly charge my watch using a portable charger and throw it in my bag.
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I am surprised about the dislikes of the HW charging mechanism. I own both HW and Gear S2 Classic. I see no advantage or disadvantage of either charging means. I hold the HW just above the dock and it snaps in place - nothing difficult. Even when using a portable charger in my bag, while hardly ever needed though, the HW stays connected to the dock. Same with the Gear S2. It is also easy to put gear on dock as it snaps on, but I am not especially pleased that there are no connector pins. I just don't care....
I haven't checked yet if Gear S2 remains docked in my bag. I think the HW is better locked though.
tinker_tf said:
Hi all,
After much consideration I ended up ordering the 46mm Moto 360. It basically came down to price at the end of the day. The Huawei watch is £329 with the standard leather strap, I was able to order via a discount code a 46mm Moto 360 with a 22mm metal band and a micro Knurl Bezel for £280. Both are added extras above the standard Moto 360.
I may come back to the Huawei watch as I'm still concerned about the flat tyre and pixel density, however given the extras, screen size and the cost I felt it was too good of an option to let go.
Thanks for all the advice above!
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Actually I only paid £289 on Amazon for the black leather strap. I then bought a brown leather, a stainless steel band and mesh band on Amazon, pretty much identical to the originals and spent about £320 in total. Not bad for the watch and 4 straps!
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I got a pretty good price on my Huawei Watch a week ago. I live in EU but ordered from USA. Even with import tax and 2 day delivery it was still cheaper than anything in the rest of the world (and I checked). It ended up costing $427/£290/€390.
I ordered silver with leather band which I am not a fan of but mesh is already on the way. Hopefully it doesn't look too feminine.
I did get stupid USA charger which is useless in Sweden, but I have a converter at home (and it costs anyway like $5) so it's all good.
This is the watch I bought, although mine was cheaper at time. $310 or so, probably some Christmas price cut:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013LKLIB0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I decided to order both!, I ordered the Huawei watch through Amazon at £329 with the metal strap. I felt safer in the knowledge the strap is made for the watch and comes under the same warranty with Amazon, plus Amazon are so good with returns I thought why not?
I haven't played with it too much yet as I am *still* awaiting on the moto 360. They've had the order since the 27th December but they've yet to dispatch it despite the order page saying it's ready to go.
First thoughts are - The presentation on this product is fantastic, it felt like I just bought an expensive piece of kit (technically I did?) The box, the decorating, the presentation was all very well done. It felt like a first class way of putting their device on display and for the first time in a long time, I spent so much time admiring the detail and effort that must of went into making this. However, whilst it is incredibly fancy I couldn't help but feel that once my excitement wore off, that this poor box will go into storage never to be seen and ideally with that in mind, would have liked the box it shipped in to be less deluxe so that the overall watch price would have been reduced.
The watch face feels small, which is odd as I don't even have anything to compare it to, I haven't worn a watch in months and like I said the 360 isn't here, but yet the screen feels small. The watch feels premium, screen is clear and crisp. Battery life seems better then I was expecting but again, I haven't dabbled with it too much just encase I return it.
The charging base seems a pain and could have been done better I feel. Why not have Qi charging? Or at least a decent stand? On that note, why not put that fantastic presentation box I mentioned to use and have that be part of the charging cycle.
The watch appears to be laggy, it doesn't seem fluid between the cards, or getting into the menus. Again I haven't set this watch up or spent that much time getting to know my way round it, plus with it being fairly new firmware updates should iron this out.
Overall I am happy with the watch, the box, the style, the feel and even the screen despite me thinking that it's kinda small. It's a lot of tech under a watch screen which is nothing short of amazing. However the cost of £329 is hard to swallow, I may return it for the leather strap one at £289 or may return it in favour of the 360 (if it ever gets here!)
I have used several watches. The Hauwei does lag some. I notice it more going into settings, it takes a second to open. Sometimes I think I missed a tap, but a second tap makes it go haywire. The hardware is identical to other watches that are smooth as butter, so it has to be a software setting. Perhaps they have the min cpu speed to slow or something. I dunno. It could be ironed out with an update or custom kernel.
The charging dock is kind of a pain compared to others. My LG G Watch has the same setup except the dock had a contoured lip around so it would slide into place with ease. It was also square = easier to align. The circle hauwei, when I dock, I have to semi spin it until it latches in. Even my ZenWatch2 just had a small magnetic clip and would snap on almost automatically.
The Hauwei is small. For me thats great because I am a smaller dude. My LG and Asus were big. The ZenWatch2 was good because of the curved screen. But my friends always called it my iPad Mini Watch.
The Motorola 360 has nice features but lacks a very important one; no speaker. And trust me, it is very important.
Heres why:
A watch is designed to give you personal freedom away from your phone. So I tend to not cling to it as much. It gets left on my desk, couch, charger, etc. When a call comes in... you find yourself scrambling to get to your phone. You typically do not have time to grab it and answer it, without some sort of awkward silence where you answered it from the watch and still in the process of grabbing the watch. Also when I am oncall for work, and in my pool swimming, I can dismiss unimportant emails and grab calls without having to kill myself trying to get out, dry off, and answer it before it goes to VM.
Food for thought. The speaker support was what I was waiting on to upgrade my LG G Watch. If you are going for just a cheap round smart watch, just buy the Moto 360 1st gen. I don't see the difference between them. Still has the flat tire and ****ty battery life.

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