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Hey guys,
I am having trouble flashing a custom recovery (TWRP) to be specific on my brothers Note 2. I was able to easily do it with my phone but I didnt update OTA to the latest ATT software.
I have the latest samsung drivers installed too.
So in general.
1. My brother updated OTA
2. I use odin to try to flash TWRP via PDA
3. It says success but when I reboot into recovery it goes into the stock android recovery instead of the custom one
4. ??? perplexed
is your [brothers] phone rooted? (you didn't mention that in the post). if it is, the easiest way to install TWRP is to download GooManager from the Play Store and, once installed, choose Menu->Install OpenRecoveryScript.
cortez.i said:
is your [brothers] phone rooted? (you didn't mention that in the post). if it is, the easiest way to install TWRP is to download GooManager from the Play Store and, once installed, choose Menu->Install OpenRecoveryScript.
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He is not rooted. He is stock from AT&T but he said he did an OTA update a week or two ago.
I actually tried the GooManager to install TWRP but it said it installed twrp but it goes into stock android recovery
I'm not sure if this helps or not but when I load into stock android recovery it keeps "manually loading CSC"
mc704 said:
He is not rooted. He is stock from AT&T but he said he did an OTA update a week or two ago.
I actually tried the GooManager to install TWRP but it said it installed twrp but it goes into stock android recovery
I'm not sure if this helps or not but when I load into stock android recovery it keeps "manually loading CSC"
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so i take it [your] phone is rooted, because you have a custom recovery installed. my understanding is that the device must be rooted before you can install a custom recovery. that's why installing TWRP via GooManager didn't work.
cortez.i said:
so i take it [your] phone is rooted, because you have a custom recovery installed. my understanding is that the device must be rooted before you can install a custom recovery. that's why installing TWRP via GooManager didn't work.
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what about ODIN doesn't it root the phone when you flash a custom recovery?
on my phone all I had to do was flash via twrp via odin and it did everything for me...
this isn't the case for my brother's phone so im a little confused
mc704 said:
what about ODIN doesn't it root the phone when you flash a custom recovery?
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ODIN doesn't root your phone. it's the package/file that you flash with ODIN that roots your device. you didn't mention the method you used to root your phone.
mc704 said:
on my phone all I had to do was flash via twrp via odin and it did everything for me...
this isn't the case for my brother's phone so im a little confused
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flash what via TWRP? you need to reference the methods you used to flash your device, e.g., link to post. it's difficult to help without having more info. in my case i used the CF Root method which does root your phone by using ODIN to flash a package that installs SuperSU binary and APK (app that provides root) and a Stock recovery. This took less than 30 seconds. afterwards, i added my GMail account to my device, installed GooManager from the PlayStore and then used GooManager to install TWRP. hope this is helpful.
cortez.i said:
ODIN doesn't root your phone. it's the package/file that you flash with ODIN that roots your device. you didn't mention the method you used to root your phone.
flash what via TWRP? you need to reference the methods you used to flash your device, e.g., link to post. it's difficult to help without having more info. in my case i used the CF Root method which does root your phone by using ODIN to flash a package that installs SuperSU binary and APK (app that provides root) and a Stock recovery. This took less than 30 seconds. afterwards, i added my GMail account to my device, installed GooManager from the PlayStore and then used GooManager to install TWRP. hope this is helpful.
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I see. Sorry for not being specific
When I worked on my phone. I installed the latest samsung drivers on the main website, used Odin 3.07, flashed TWRP 2.3 by PDA, and it was rooted and the custom recovery worked awesome (I did it similar to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFHZ535L7is)
However this process does not work with my brothers note 2. Which is why im confused.... I assuming TWRP auto rooted for my phone but it didn't for my brother's phone?
I will definitely give your method a try and post back. Thanks for putting up with a newbie like me! :laugh:
mc704 said:
I see. Sorry for not being specific
When I worked on my phone. I installed the latest samsung drivers on the main website, used Odin 3.07, flashed TWRP 2.3 by PDA, and it was rooted and the custom recovery worked awesome (I did it similar to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFHZ535L7is)
However this process does not work with my brothers note 2. Which is why im confused.... I assuming TWRP auto rooted for my phone but it didn't for my brother's phone?
I will definitely give your method a try and post back. Thanks for putting up with a newbie like me! :laugh:
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no worries... i'd hate to see you fubar your brothers phone, lol. anyway, the method used in that video appears to be created by ChainFire for the N7100, which is the international version of the Note 2. the method i referenced - also developed by ChainFire - is specific to the AT&T and Canadian versions of the Note 2. if there's one thing I've learned in my years on xda, it's to make sure that you play with stuff that's compatible with your device. several of today's devices go by the same consumer friendly name (e.g.,Galaxy S 3, Note 2) but have different internals (e.g., chips). if you flash an incompatible ROM, you could end up with a nice paperweight. hope you and your brother enjoy your phones.
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no worries... i'd hate to see you fubar your brothers phone, lol. anyway, the method used in that video appears to be created by ChainFire for the N7100, which is the international version of the Note 2. the method i referenced - also developed by ChainFire - is specific to the AT&T and Canadian versions of the Note 2. if there's one thing I've learned in my years on xda, it's to make sure that you play with stuff that's compatible with your device. several of today's devices go by the same consumer friendly name (e.g.,Galaxy S 3, Note 2) but have different internals (e.g., chips). if you flash an incompatible ROM, you could end up with a nice paperweight. hope you and your brother enjoy your phones.
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just a quick update.
I flashed CF-autoroot, TWRP, and a custom rom! Everything works great!
Thanks for the help!
Howdy, I plan on rooting my tablet in a few days. The instructions say to root, then, flash stock recovery. Is flashing the stock recovery necessary if i plan on using goo to install twrp recovery prior to flashing cleanrom on my device?
Also, the cleanrom thread says to flash the appropriate version of twrp. Am I to assume the latest version on goo is the ticket for that?
Also, while the dev has indicated there will be further versions after 1.2, can I expect to simply download updates, or expect to flash new versions every time? I guess this particular question doesn't really matter I'm just interested.
And finally, has anybody used heimdall with any success with the p600? Google says no...
I would have posted this on the clean rom thread but was not allowed since I have not had enough posts yet. moving this to there would not hurt my feelings.
I appreciate any and all help and of course feel appreciation and give thanks to the developers who have put in such great effort. Thank you.
sleekmason said:
Howdy, I plan on rooting my tablet in a few days. The instructions say to root, then, flash stock recovery. Is flashing the stock recovery necessary if i plan on using goo to install twrp recovery prior to flashing cleanrom on my device?
Also, the cleanrom thread says to flash the appropriate version of twrp. Am I to assume the latest version on goo is the ticket for that?
Also, while the dev has indicated there will be further versions after 1.2, can I expect to simply download updates, or expect to flash new versions every time? I guess this particular question doesn't really matter I'm just interested.
And finally, has anybody used heimdall with any success with the p600? Google says no...
I would have posted this on the clean rom thread but was not allowed since I have not had enough posts yet. moving this to there would not hurt my feelings.
I appreciate any and all help and of course feel appreciation and give thanks to the developers who have put in such great effort. Thank you.
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That's a lot questions! Lol.... here's two answers:
If you want to flash CleanRom, then you don't need to root your stock rom, just use Odin to flash TWRP and that will either let you install CleanRom or let you install SuperSU (root). You can the recovery from their website.
I'm on the P600 and the goomanager didn't install the recovery correctly, so I had to flash with odin.
I don't know about Heimdal. Good luck on your ten posts
Sent from my SM-P600
Odin eh?
grmcrkrs said:
That's a lot questions! Lol.... here's two answers:
If you want to flash CleanRom, then you don't need to root your stock rom, just use Odin to flash TWRP and that will either let you install CleanRom or let you install SuperSU (root). You can the recovery from their website.
I'm on the P600 and the goomanager didn't install the recovery correctly, so I had to flash with odin.
I don't know about Heimdal. Good luck on your ten posts
Sent from my SM-P600
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My understanding is that root is neccesary to flash twrp. If that is not the case, they why use Odin at all?
Heimdall is a program reverse engineered to work on Samsung devices. Potentially more stable than odin. Open source. I use a linux box but will have access to a windows box in a week or so.
supersu
Furthermore, for verification, super su does not root your device, it only manages the permissions of those programs that need root access. Can somebody else chime in for verification?
sleekmason said:
Furthermore, for verification, super su does not root your device, it only manages the permissions of those programs that need root access. Can somebody else chime in for verification?
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No, you CAN flash recovery without rooting, and if your not rooted then TWRP asks if you'd like to install SuperSU and root that way. I guess you don't have to believe me though
Sent from my SM-P600
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No, you CAN flash recovery without rooting, and if your not rooted then TWRP asks if you'd like to install SuperSU and root that way. I guess you don't have to believe me though
Sent from my SM-P600
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that sounds great but doesn't TWRP need root in order to be installed? my understanding is yes. If not I should be able to install it using Goo manager. from what I've read the developers for GooManager are very serious and would not allow a non working application to remain in their program.
sleekmason said:
Howdy, I plan on rooting my tablet in a few days. The instructions say to root, then, flash stock recovery. Is flashing the stock recovery necessary if i plan on using goo to install twrp recovery prior to flashing cleanrom on my device?
Also, the cleanrom thread says to flash the appropriate version of twrp. Am I to assume the latest version on goo is the ticket for that?
Also, while the dev has indicated there will be further versions after 1.2, can I expect to simply download updates, or expect to flash new versions every time? I guess this particular question doesn't really matter I'm just interested.
And finally, has anybody used heimdall with any success with the p600? Google says no...
I would have posted this on the clean rom thread but was not allowed since I have not had enough posts yet. moving this to there would not hurt my feelings.
I appreciate any and all help and of course feel appreciation and give thanks to the developers who have put in such great effort. Thank you.
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You wont need to root if your intent is to just flash my ROM.
Appropriate version would be 2.6.3.3
As far as updates / patches... Depends on the issue. Mostly do full updates if something changes. If its a bug fix then I would just do a patch.
Hemidall? No, never tried it.
Basically to flash a custom ROM you just need to flash TWRP using Odin then flash the ROM using TWRP.
You dont techincally need to root unless you want to stay stock and have root. But that is no fun!
Also, the goo.im app does not work with this device so you have to use Odin manually (for simplicity).
Hope this helps!
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that sounds great but doesn't TWRP need root in order to be installed? my understanding is yes. If not I should be able to install it using Goo manager. from what I've read the developers for GooManager are very serious and would not allow a non working application to remain in their program.
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I read the TWRP thread, and others are having problems installing through goomanager. I also wanted to install it that way, but it wouldn't work. But it didnt work. It also wouldn't flash through the stock recovery. Hence, odin.
Sent from my SM-P600
thank you for the clarification! in order to flash TWRP in Odin do I simply use the AP slot as you would to flash autoroot by their directions?
one of the things thats tripped me up is that on the TWR P site as well as in Google Play it says you must have a rooted device. This would suggest that in order to get TWRP on your device it would already have to be rooted. it seems strange to me that the tablet will allow odin to install it on a non rooted device.
hoops I guess. So being a non Windows user, that is not familiar with the Windows operating system,( bet you don't hear that everyday) ,I would suppose the order would go something like this.
1 download Samsung drivers from kies.1
2. Download TWRP from site for odin.
3. Open odin.
4. go to download mode on device.
5. Plugin device and wait for it to be recognized.
6. Drag the Twrp zip for odin to the AP slot, enter,
7. Wait for it to .......?
8. Reboot.
9 download the cleanrom rom.
10. Reboot into recovery
11. Installcleanrom
12 enjoy.
a couple of other questions concerning the SD card. Should I leave it in during any or all of these processes? I've seen where other people have had problems with their SD card not being read is this due to it not being installed when they install clean rom? I really do appreciate all the help.
not breaking my device by doing something stupid is paramount. Lol! as I will be using my daughters computer any other information regarding the installation of the Samsung drivers or Odin would be much appreciated I do not want to hurt her computer.
I kept my SD card installed while flashing TWRP in Odin and had no problems. If you're worried then take it out. As far as Odin goes... run it as an admin and after connecting your Note (in DL mode) just click on "AP" and navigate to the directory where you saved the TWRP file. From there just hit "start" and your good to go. Odin isn't gonna mess anything up on your daughters pc and if you have a copy of the stock recovery just reflash it if you run into problems with TWRP. Also, read through all the different threads/watch YouTube videos. Most of this has been covered many times over and you can see what success or problems others have had.
Hey guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me a little. I just bought this tablet (2014 version) and it has MK1.
I am trying to read information on how to root it but can't figure it out. I tried to flash autoroot with odin but it errored. I didn't find mk1 autoroot anywhere so i used autorootp600.mj4.tar.md5. Is there autoroot for MK1 and i can use? Also i guess i will need to have custom recovery file for my stock OS, where do i get that?
Thank you in advance for all the help.
Edit: I finally located autoroot for mk1 and it worked. But i do have a question: why do we need to flash it with Stock Recovery after? btw i am using this tutorial : http://theunlockr.com/2013/12/17/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition/
What version do you have?
P600 (wifi only)
P601 (3g)
P605 (lte)
?
They have different chipsets and different root methods.
[e] I see you have found the correct version if you want to get OTA updates you need to flash stock recovery so your device status is not custom. But it basically doesn't matter since you can always flash updates through odin. You may choose a custom recovery that offers you a lot of cool features instead.
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Hey guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me a little. I just bought this tablet (2014 version) and it has MK1.
I am trying to read information on how to root it but can't figure it out. I tried to flash autoroot with odin but it errored. I didn't find mk1 autoroot anywhere so i used autorootp600.mj4.tar.md5. Is there autoroot for MK1 and i can use? Also i guess i will need to have custom recovery file for my stock OS, where do i get that?
Thank you in advance for all the help.
Edit: I finally located autoroot for mk1 and it worked. But i do have a question: why do we need to flash it with Stock Recovery after? btw i am using this tutorial : http://theunlockr.com/2013/12/17/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition/
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I believe...... so you can still get OTA updates and some functions like All Share Cast may not work if you don't.
The thing is, even if you have stock recovery but modify your system in other ways like uninstall alot of bloatware or use busybox your status will be custom anyway so I recommend a custom recovery for the safety of using backups etc.
Thank you guys for responding so quickly.
It's starting to make sense.
My device is Wifi only so SM-P600 (mk1). I rooted it but haven't flashed with stock recovery. Would you guys recommend i do a custom recovery or keep it stock? Where do i get stock recovery from? i can't seem to find it.
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The thing is, even if you have stock recovery but modify your system in other ways like uninstall alot of bloatware or use busybox your status will be custom anyway so I recommend a custom recovery for the safety of using backups etc.
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Yea i definitely plan on de-bloating it. So where do you get custom recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515656
Check this thread
clouds5 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515656
Check this thread
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Ok, that makes sense i went though it. So i see that there is ClockMod and TWRP and GooManager, do they do pretty much the same thing?
So as far as Roms go, i see that in Development section there are few ROMs available but some say they are for MJ9 or ML1, i cannot use those on my MK1 right? Do ROMs from note 10.1 (2013) work on this device? Is there a list of ROMs that would work on my device.
Sorry, guys i know these are newb questions but i just could never figure out some of this stuff.
stamina11 said:
Ok, that makes sense i went though it. So i see that there is ClockMod and TWRP and GooManager, do they do pretty much the same thing?
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I got the same question here. Any help?
legender said:
I got the same question here. Any help?
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Goomanager is an app use it to flash twrp recovery.
TWRP and clockmod (CWM) they are 2 different tools but have the exact same functions, just a user choice. Sometimes custom rom preferred one over the other. I like TWRP a bit better (easier).
is there a way to check if it is rooted or not?
legender said:
is there a way to check if it is rooted or not?
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Download rootchecker in the play store
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Hi friendly xda android enthusiasts. I have, after many issues, finally rooted my gt-n5110 using odin and cf-auto. Workered without a hitch. Odin passed, tab rebooted, and BAM, "superSU has stopped working". I immediately navigated myself over to the playstore to reinstall SuperSU and for the first time i have ever seen it wouldnt allow me to. It only gave me a choice to open. No update no uninstall. Going into my apps list it was not present on downloads but was available on device list. Clucked it and no option to uninstall, only to force stop or turn off. So it is incorporated as a system with no access to it. This has me stumped. I have only seen old threads with answers to this and they are temp fixes. Need to know what i can do to fix this on a permanent basis and if someone could help me understand how and why this issue occured it would give me a better understanding and possibly prevent further issues. Thanks in advance guys.
Try the flashable version in this post after you install a custom recovery with odin.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Try the flashable version in this post after you install a custom recovery with odin.
ramjet73
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This may be a very stupid question but i have to be sure. As i stated the odin DID pass the auto root and tab rebooted. But along with the superSU error i ran root checker and was unable to obtain root. Im assuming its because supersu is not embedded. So with that said is it still ok to attempt to flash a recovery to the tab?
mattdiehl83 said:
This may be a very stupid question but i have to be sure. As i stated the odin DID pass the auto root and tab rebooted. But along with the superSU error i ran root checker and was unable to obtain root. Im assuming its because supersu is not embedded. So with that said is it still ok to attempt to flash a recovery to the tab?
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Yes. Recovery is independent of whether or not you are rooted. You can install it from Android using tools like Flashify once you are properly rooted, but Odin works fine as long as you have a version of recovery in that format.
Flashing SuperSU from a custom recovery once it is installed should fix the superuser problems you are having.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Yes. Recovery is independent of whether or not you are rooted. You can install it from Android using tools like Flashify once you are properly rooted, but Odin works fine as long as you have a version of recovery in that format.
Flashing SuperSU from a custom recovery once it is installed should fix the superuser problems you are having.
ramjet73
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Doing now. Thankyou. Fingers crossed.
I had the same issue on my 5110. The flashable root only worked for me until I rebooted, then it would lose root. What ultimately worked for me was to unroot with Kingo. Then with USB debugging enabled, re-rooted with Kingo (which took around 10 min).
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andygev35 said:
I had the same issue on my 5110. The flashable root only worked for me until I rebooted, then it would lose root. What ultimately worked for me was to unroot with Kingo. Then with USB debugging enabled, re-rooted with Kingo (which took around 10 min).
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If flashing SuperSU from recovery doesn't result in a successful rooted system someone should let @Chainfire know. I've never had a problem rooting a stock ROM that way but let's see what @mattdiehl83 reports.
ramjet73
OS X
ramjet73 said:
If flashing SuperSU from recovery doesn't result in a successful rooted system someone should let @Chainfire know. I've never had a problem rooting a stock ROM that way but let's see what @mattdiehl83 reports.
ramjet73
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Not near pc. Only have OS X available now. Can anybody walk me through using OS X to flash?
mattdiehl83 said:
Not near pc. Only have OS X available now. Can anybody walk me through using OS X to flash?
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The recovery? I don't know if there is an OS X version of Odin.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
The recovery? I don't know if there is an OS X version of Odin.
ramjet73
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I am wondering what flashing tool to use with OS X. Odin is for windows. I know of heimdall but that requires ALOT to flash anything. Wondering if there is another odin like tool for OS X
You could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2598203
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done.
Hi guys sorry for the delay in update. I ended up using VM ware and it allowed to operate as windows on OS X. I installed TWRP, went into the file manager in TWRP and removed the superSU, i then flashed superSU and rebooted. Once back to the tablet i went and restored services to superSU and went into the play store. And finally the playstore gave me the option the update the superSU. And then the rest was all normal installation of superSU. Hope this thread helps anybody dealing with these issues.
Glad you got it working. :good:
This post in the CF-Autoroot thread might be helpful as well.
ramjet73
there is a easy way to fix it!
download supersu 2.02 and install ta da and it works
2.01 does not work with n5110 well if you flash cf auto root
hmmmm.....
Bordo_Bereli51 said:
there is a easy way to fix it!
download supersu 2.02 and install ta da and it works
2.01 does not work with n5110 well if you flash cf auto root
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Tada..your a genius. Oh wait i believe i stated it didnt have that option it was disabled. Yes i decided scarcasm would be fitting due to the fact it says ALL OVER xda to please read before you post.
mattdiehl83 said:
Tada..your a genius. Oh wait i believe i stated it didnt have that option it was disabled. Yes i decided scarcasm would be fitting due to the fact it says ALL OVER xda to please read before you post.
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I read all the post and didnt found something
YOU DONT NEED TO DELETE SUPERSU 2.0.1
Install 2.02 apk and go to supersu, then to settings and push to /system
This is the easiest way. the one you found: go to recovery delete that and this. download supersu 2.0.2 apk and install it not the recovery zip i mean the APK! i didnt say the flashable supersu zip.
oh wait, yes you are a intelligent boy, you know everything.
mattdiehl83 said:
I am wondering what flashing tool to use with OS X. Odin is for windows. I know of heimdall but that requires ALOT to flash anything. Wondering if there is another odin like tool for OS X
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That's a bit of a dilemma.
Unfortunately Samsung does not support using fastboot and bootloader mode (they call it download mode) so that standard SDK tool Google provides for Windows, Linux and MAC OS X isn't applicable. Your best bet would be to find a Windows PC that you can use to flash the recovery with Odin since that is the most common and best documented method.
Edit: NVM, somehow I responded to an old post of yours.
ramjet73
I am looking to install ClockworkMod (CWM) recovery version 6.0.3.2 on to my T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S4 (SGH-M919) as described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264637. I tried to install the CWM recovery via the Rom Manager app linked in the thread mentioned, and I got a notification indicating root was required.
So, that is my question - Is root required to install ClockworkMod recovery on to my SGH-M919? Isn't it possible to install the CWM recovery on to my SGH-M919 without having to root my phone by flashing it directly through Odin?
For reference, I have listed the details of my phone below:
Brand/Series/Make: Samsung Galaxy S4
Model Number: SGH-M919
Carrier (Country): T-Mobile (USA)
Android Version: Android 4.4.4
Baseband Version (Firmware/ROM): M919UVUFNK2
Phone Rooted Before?: No
XDAUserII said:
I am looking to install ClockworkMod (CWM) recovery version 6.0.3.2 on to my T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S4 (SGH-M919) as described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264637. I tried to install the CWM recovery via the Rom Manager app linked in the thread mentioned, and I got a notification indicating root was required.
So, that is my question - Is root required to install ClockworkMod recovery on to my SGH-M919? Isn't it possible to install the CWM recovery on to my SGH-M919 without having to root my phone by flashing it directly through Odin?
For reference, I have listed the details of my phone below:
Brand/Series/Make: Samsung Galaxy S4
Model Number: SGH-M919
Carrier (Country): T-Mobile (USA)
Android Version: Android 4.4.4
Baseband Version (Firmware/ROM): M919UVUFNK2
Phone Rooted Before?: No
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No, but you can flash latest TWRP.tar for your phone in odin
canodroid15 said:
No, but you can flash latest TWRP.tar for your phone in odin
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Did you mean:
No, as in root IS required in order to install ClockworkMod recovery on to my SGH-M919?
If so, is it possible to install CWM recovery on to my SGH-M919 via Odin flashing without having first to root my phone?
Rooting is the lesser of the two evils.
A custom recovery maybe semi functional without root, especially if installing a custom rom that requires changes to files, permissions or build prop edits in order for it to work properly.
Root on the other hand gives you a broad spectrum of functionality allowing you total control of your phone, operating system and access to customize your rom of choice the way you want it.
In this world, you root then you have the option of custom or stock recovery.
And yes, typically you need root to flash CWM recovery.
Pp.
You do not need root to flash cwm from a pc (odin). You DO need root to flash it with rom manager or similar app
XDAUserII said:
I am looking to install ClockworkMod (CWM) recovery version 6.0.3.2 on to my T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S4 (SGH-M919) as described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264637. I tried to install the CWM recovery via the Rom Manager app linked in the thread mentioned, and I got a notification indicating root was required.
So, that is my question - Is root required to install ClockworkMod recovery on to my SGH-M919? Isn't it possible to install the CWM recovery on to my SGH-M919 without having to root my phone by flashing it directly through Odin?
For reference, I have listed the details of my phone below:
Brand/Series/Make: Samsung Galaxy S4
Model Number: SGH-M919
Carrier (Country): T-Mobile (USA)
Android Version: Android 4.4.4
Baseband Version (Firmware/ROM): M919UVUFNK2
Phone Rooted Before?: No
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You only need root if you are wanting to flash CWM via ROM Manager, if you're just wanting to flash CWM (in order to flash a new ROM), this is the guide I used: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_jflte#Recovery_Installation
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serio22 said:
You do not need root to flash cwm from a pc (odin). You DO need root to flash it with rom manager or similar app
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Show me the video.
Isn't it some sort of img. file?
Not a MD5 or tar. file?
It sounds complicated for a novice flasher that doesn't understand "root" .
And beware of rom manager.
Google it.
Pp.
PanchoPlanet said:
Show me the video.
Isn't it some sort of img. file?
Not a MD5 or tar. file?
It sounds complicated for a novice flasher that doesn't understand "root" .
And beware of rom manager.
Google it.
Pp.
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There are tar versions
serio22 said:
You do not need root to flash cwm from a pc (odin). You DO need root to flash it with rom manager or similar app
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I see. Let me ask this, another user mentioned that if you were to flash ClockwordMod recovery in Odin with no root than CWM recovery would not function as needed since it would need some permissions only available if the phone was rooted - is this true? The reason I ask is because it is not mentioned anywhere on the ClockworkMod site that root is required.
XDAUserWork said:
I see. Let me ask this, another user mentioned that if you were to flash ClockwordMod recovery in Odin with no root than CWM recovery would not function as needed since it would need some permissions only available if the phone was rooted - is this true? The reason I ask is because it is not mentioned anywhere on the ClockworkMod site that root is required.
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You wouldn't be able to use apps like ROM Manager, Flashify, etc. to send commands from within Android to CWM without root, as those apps require root; but CWM will work fine if you boot into recovery and run your commands there.
What is it you are looking to do? In all honesty, I don't see the point in installing a custom recovery if you are not also going to root your device.
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XDAUserWork said:
I see. Let me ask this, another user mentioned that if you were to flash ClockwordMod recovery in Odin with no root than CWM recovery would not function as needed since it would need some permissions only available if the phone was rooted - is this true? The reason I ask is because it is not mentioned anywhere on the ClockworkMod site that root is required.
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Not true, it should function as it should
Root allows all apps that require root to function! Apps that will allow immediate power down, sms/mms backups, timed reboots, having a simple way to manage (AND NAME BACKUPS) With text that will show date created rather than what the application (like CWM) uses. The date will look odd if you just boot to recovery and ,let CWM assign the filename of the recovery. Rooting affords MANY possibilities that would not be possible without root. It will also, allow you whether knowingly, or unintentionally wiping out the os to become non functional. Root gives you TOTAL controlability. You can make almost any change you want, but wrong moves could render the decice un-usable without first recovering a previous backup, or restoring a completely new factory install. If you're not backed up, be very carefull what you change. Also rogue apps can put you out of business as well since the system will allow any changes to occurr. Rooting removes the rules of anything that controlls the device's operation. It sorta kills all the cops of your phone's system, and makes you God. LOL
In my case, if I were not able to root my decice, I'd most likely go iPhone as 99% of their apps work , like the author says it will. Apple screens and tests each offered app whereas, android is a crapshoot! Hope I answewed your question without scaring you off !!!!!?
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