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I've heard some people say they get 3 days out of their desires and others saying they get just over a day.
This thread it would be great to collect a list of people with desires and their average battery life as well as a list of apps they have installed and widgets on display and maybe the rom they are using.
Just trying to work out
I'm going to collect data and put something up tomorrow - but I noticed last night that my battery went down really quickly when my Alarm went off (using Gentle Alarm) I also confirmed this using JuicePlotter which showed the battery sharply decrease just at the same time in which my alarm was set to go off.
I also noticed that having wifi turned on didnt seem to effect battery life that much...
Yeah my battery lasts really well leaving WI-FI on too. Not sure why others have an issue with it.
My battery will last a day tops turning on from 7.30 and off again around 12am ish
During day I will use Seemic (on manual update) and use FB on net every now and then.
May occasionally go to the Market for Updates.
I only use mobile Network when I need to so I turn off and on when required.
I will play Word Up and Solitaire for 30 -40 mins a day roughly.
Battery % will vary between 65 - 45 by 6.30 pm
Today it is down to 75% at 2.10pm - although I've not played any games today so far.
I bought an X10 and returned it because the battery wouldn't last even a day despite having all kinds of task-killing crap installed.
Then I bought a Desire and had the same problem - 6, maybe 7 hours of battery.
I found a post on some obscure blog that helped me track down the culprit: there are apps that don't let the device go to sleep completely. I had two of them. And Android (at least the HTCs) have a built-in function to see exactly what those processes are:
From the dialer: *#*#INFO#*#*, choose Battery History from the menu and then Partial Wake Usage. Nothing should have more than a tiny fraction of a bar. But on mine, Grooveshark was using 99%. I uninstalled it, tried again a few hours later and saw that Mikandi was using 99%. I uninstalled that, and now I'm getting more than 24 hours of heavy use.
Some apps just don't behave.
Why would Dialer App have such a high network usage?
It shows up as using a lot of network!
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Why would Dialer App have such a high network usage?
It shows up as using a lot of network!
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Why would Dialer App have such a high network usage?
It shows up as using a lot of network!
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Wouldn't the dialer use the network to call people when you dial?
Thanks for the "cheat code" on the hidden menu. Very interesting.
I can sometimes squeeze 2 days out of my battery. I'll only get a day and a half on this charge though because of lots of txting and facebook use.
I found this menu option in Settings > "accounts & sync" > Background Data. I turned this off and seem to get a little more battery.
Changing the brightness down a bit helps, and i'll set the screen timeout to lower as its at 1 minute now. Plus If I use friend stream instead of the facebook widget then it updates when I want to and doesnt keep active.
Least amount of battery time i've had is a day. I never turn my phone off.
I never get a full day out of mine, maybe 8-10 hours max... I have no idea how some people claim 3 days, I'm not exactly a power user!
Stock ROM (not a provider one, just generic) on T-Mobile UK network
Wi-Fi and GPS off
Widgets: Standard Flip Clock, SMS, FriendStream, Stocks (2hr update), Agenda, News (2hr Update)
Market Programmes: K9 Mail (1Hr e-mail updating), ES File Explorer, Shazam, Voice Search, Pkt Ebay, Tricorder, UK TV Guide, GBCoid
In Standby (screen off), not using web, not calling, not texting, not using apps, I lose around 10% per hour, faster if anything at all is on.
Oddly, despite the very poor (for me anyway) standby life, in call life seems really good, I made a call last night for an hour, where phone was in the orange phase when I started and still hadn't gone red at the end...
Pauly
I wanted to try turning background data off but sadly the market does not work when you have this turned off (a warning pops up when you try)
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Wouldn't the dialer use the network to call people when you dial?
Thanks for the "cheat code" on the hidden menu. Very interesting.
I can sometimes squeeze 2 days out of my battery. I'll only get a day and a half on this charge though because of lots of txting and facebook use.
I found this menu option in Settings > "accounts & sync" > Background Data. I turned this off and seem to get a little more battery.
Changing the brightness down a bit helps, and i'll set the screen timeout to lower as its at 1 minute now. Plus If I use friend stream instead of the facebook widget then it updates when I want to and doesnt keep active.
Least amount of battery time i've had is a day. I never turn my phone off.
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True re the dialer. Was thinking network as on net use.
anyone got background data or mobile data turned off?
if so whats your battery life like?
also anyone tried with 3G on and compared to GSM ONLY?
awestenb said:
I bought an X10 and returned it because the battery wouldn't last even a day despite having all kinds of task-killing crap installed.
Then I bought a Desire and had the same problem - 6, maybe 7 hours of battery.
I found a post on some obscure blog that helped me track down the culprit: there are apps that don't let the device go to sleep completely. I had two of them. And Android (at least the HTCs) have a built-in function to see exactly what those processes are:
From the dialer: *#*#INFO#*#*, choose Battery History from the menu and then Partial Wake Usage. Nothing should have more than a tiny fraction of a bar. But on mine, Grooveshark was using 99%. I uninstalled it, tried again a few hours later and saw that Mikandi was using 99%. I uninstalled that, and now I'm getting more than 24 hours of heavy use.
Some apps just don't behave.
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Well the only app that have a bigger bar is Android System... Is this normal?
Settings ; About phone ; Battery ; Battery use and it will tell you when it was last unplugged and what has been using it.
4h 27m
Cell standby - 45%
Phone idle - 45%
Wifi -7%
Android system - 5%
Display - 2%
Obviously you can see from that I've hardly used it. A few texts, checking email periodically. Display brightness is on full, weather update is set to manual. Only have a few apps installed. Main one being data counter widget.
2000kb wifi
780kb cell.
Oh, and SystemPanel, tells me I have 93%.
Switch off 3g when you don't need it,this can nearly double your standby/idle time ,use a 2g-3g toggle if its a pain.
Juice defender with its plotter can give you very useful info on when your phone is using its battery the most.
On idle with 2g 1% per hour is normal, with 3g 2-4 %.
As soon as that screen goes on start thinking 15-20% per hour!
Most smart phones are the same,my x1 ,touch pro all got caned when I first got them,but a bit of experience and a few tweaks later they were doing 3-4 days.
Also flatten it and fully charge it when switched off helps too.
My battery life is pitiful too, im a pretty light user now ive had time to play with the phone for a while but battery will always need to be put on charge by around 10pm when only unplugged around 7am the same day.
I bought up the partial wake usage list and UID followed by a number is using twice the power of Android System.
Does anyone know what the UID is?
My battery life was rubbish until i updated the radio version to 32.37.00.32U_4.06.00.16_2. I am also using MCR3.1
Before my battery life would be fully discharged within 7 hours. Now i have 1day+ Not too sure as i now have a brodit car mount that charges my phone during my commute.
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My battery life was rubbish until i updated the radio version to 32.37.00.32U_4.06.00.16_2. I am also using MCR3.1
Before my battery life would be fully discharged within 7 hours. Now i have 1day+ Not too sure as i now have a brodit car mount that charges my phone during my commute.
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To update, do you need to root your device? I don't want to root mine, but I want to get the best battery life possible.
I;'m now using the beta version of Juice Defender
and i've disabled always on mobile data
will let u know how i get on
Ok I'm now onto day 2 using the desire with the following settings
Juice Defender Beta with Ultimate Juice
- wifi on all the time when in known location
- APN / WIFI off when screen is off
- APN off between 0:00 and 6:30
Always on Mobile data turned off (via networks)
Removed al unneccesary widgets (using ADW Launcher) - currently not using any widgets that sync content
Gmail set to only sync 1 days worth of content
Calendar Sync turned off
Contact Sync turned off
--- Usage -----
Approx 2 hrs worth of calls
1hr watching MP4 videos
browsing the web approx 30mins
checking marketplace - 10mins
replying to emails (approx 20)
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Currently the battery is at 46%
Was 100% on Wednesday 5pm 2nd June 2010
If it makes it through the night I'll be very happy - will report back
im getting somewhere between 38 - 48 hrs on a charge, no task manger installed with wifi and gps enabled.
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Ok I'm now onto day 2 using the desire with the following settings
Juice Defender Beta with Ultimate Juice
- wifi on all the time when in known location
- APN / WIFI off when screen is off
- APN off between 0:00 and 6:30
Always on Mobile data turned off (via networks)
Removed al unneccesary widgets (using ADW Launcher) - currently not using any widgets that sync content
Gmail set to only sync 1 days worth of content
Calendar Sync turned off
Contact Sync turned off
--- Usage -----
Approx 2 hrs worth of calls
1hr watching MP4 videos
browsing the web approx 30mins
checking marketplace - 10mins
replying to emails (approx 20)
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Currently the battery is at 46%
Was 100% on Wednesday 5pm 2nd June 2010
If it makes it through the night I'll be very happy - will report back
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Stating the obvious, but if you don't use your phone, your battery will last a long time!
Personally I need to use my phone (otherwise why would I have bought it) so have push email running with full Exchange sync 8 till 8, FB & Twitter syncing once an hour, spend a couple of hours a day making calls, connect to WiFi using my iPass account whenever a hotspot is available and spend a lot of time dealing with emails etc.
I put my "less than a day" battery life down to the fact that my screen is on and doing stuff for much of that time.
Of course if I just leave the phone on the desk at the side of me and don't touch it all day, even with push mail and all that sync, if the screen is not turned on much, I get 2 days.
It's the screen that eats the battery. The more it is on, the shorter the time between charges.
Wow I don't understand how you people get such amazing battery life!
I am no noob anymore regarding Android and Smartphone's in general, so I understand most 'hints & tricks' in this thread. But simply for me this does not work.
Some important stuff:
- I ALWAYS have 2G on, never 3G.
- I use wifi at home and in most places I go
- I have almost everything set to 'manual' updating
Ok.
For example my last situation:
I unplugged it at 23.30 yesterday. I used it for a little bit, over wifi. Checking twitter, surfing the web, watching some video's in HTC Flash Player. I went to bed around 02.00, watched some Law & Order that's why it was so late. So before turning off the lights, I turned wifi off. The battery was around 80-85%, from what I remember.
I wake up at 12.00. The battery was still above 50%, that's for sure. I do some facebook, twitter, news, etc. All over wifi.
And now, just before 17.00, my battery was dead (while I almost typed this entire story on my Desire -.- I was pissed). So that means, about 17 hours? Which about 10 hours I slept and the phone was doing nothing, over 2G!
So yeah... and when I read all your story's about 2 days (48 hours) I am really like: WTF
Some more details:
-No live-wallpaper. Just the black 'carbon' one.
-I used to use LauncherPro beta, but battery life was just as bad. Now I am back on HTC Sense. I have some widgets, like the Calander widget, a small music widget, bookmarks widget, etc.
-I tried to find out what uses the most battery while sleeping with that code and it showed Android System. So nothing weird there.
-Again, everything set to MANUAL updating
-ONLY 2G.
-Brightness set to auto.
So really, I think it's my wifi that sucks the battery life out of my Desire. I remember when I went on a trip and was just 'listning' to music, my battery only dropped like 10 to 15% in 3 hours.
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Btw, I remember that this 'some people have great battery life some people don't' story was the same with the HTC HD2. The only different thing there was that I was one of the people with the 'good' battery life. Now I am on the 'losers' team
Any help would be great!
Hello everyone,
Would like to raise a matter about the battery life.
I have updated tostock 4.2.2 recently, I have noticed recently that the battery life is being awkward the least. The device can hold up to 4 days ideal but when I start using it the battery percentage dives rapidely it can go down in 20% if the screen is on for 10 minutes. Did anyone experience this and know how to go around it? Im really troubled as it wasnt like this in 4.1.2 it could hold up to 5 hours of screen now it can barely keep with 2-3 hours!
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modesty1 said:
Hello everyone,
Would like to raise a matter about the battery life.
I have updated tostock 4.2.2 recently, I have noticed recently that the battery life is being awkward the least. The device can hold up to 4 days ideal but when I start using it the battery percentage dives rapidely it can go down in 20% if the screen is on for 10 minutes. Did anyone experience this and know how to go around it? Im really troubled as it wasnt like this in 4.1.2 it could hold up to 5 hours of screen now it can barely keep with 2-3 hours!
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My charge and battery drain thread is here somewhere...
You can look in settings, battery... let us know what is tops on the list.
Also look at settings, data... let us know what is tops as well.
Note: Most of the time the trouble is with google music player, this years update sux with 4.2.2. If you have 4.1.1 it is no problem.
4.2.2 also does not like media files with odd names and characters. I had to rename all my music files to 2 digit numbers, for the media to stop indexing. Folders don't seem to be the issue, just the files. I get 3% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping disconnected from charger, and about 10% per hour under a mix use. Thus able to have 8 hours before charging. I can possibly get a week out of the tablet having sync off, power saver enabled, and Wifi off when disconnected from battery in sleep.
modesty1 said:
Hello everyone,
Would like to raise a matter about the battery life.
I have updated tostock 4.2.2 recently, I have noticed recently that the battery life is being awkward the least. The device can hold up to 4 days ideal but when I start using it the battery percentage dives rapidely it can go down in 20% if the screen is on for 10 minutes. Did anyone experience this and know how to go around it? Im really troubled as it wasnt like this in 4.1.2 it could hold up to 5 hours of screen now it can barely keep with 2-3 hours!
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use power saving mode, and download Advanced task killer. Kill all apps running in the background whenever u are done or not using the tablet. and clear your "Recent applications". that should increase the battery life significantly
Same here on videos
gooberdude said:
My charge and battery drain thread is here somewhere...
You can look in settings, battery... let us know what is tops on the list.
Also look at settings, data... let us know what is tops as well.
Note: Most of the time the trouble is with google music player, this years update sux with 4.2.2. If you have 4.1.1 it is no problem.
4.2.2 also does not like media files with odd names and characters. I had to rename all my music files to 2 digit numbers, for the media to stop indexing. Folders don't seem to be the issue, just the files. I get 3% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping disconnected from charger, and about 10% per hour under a mix use. Thus able to have 8 hours before charging. I can possibly get a week out of the tablet having sync off, power saver enabled, and Wifi off when disconnected from battery in sleep.
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Hi guys,
I will search your thread cause I have this huge battery drain problem too.
I'm on 4.2.2 for long now but for 1 or 2 months now, my battery drains very rapidly when I'm watching movies or series ... I can use the samsung player or MX player it's just the same ...
When I'm 100%, i loose more than 10 % in 15 minutes of watching ... in fact my train travel in the morning is 30 minutes, and If i'm watching a movie, during the trip I loose nearly 30 % !!!
The thing is when I'm playing games or do something else, there is no such drain ... and as you I get only approx 3% or 4% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping ...
This drives me crazy ...
At 56% at 3:00 pm today (I'm french), since a discharge at 6:00 am, my batteries info from parameters are :
Screen : 39 %
Network / Radio function : 33% (what is this ?)
MX player : 16 %
Sleep mode : 3 %
And the rest is under 2 or 3 % ...
For example, I watch a movie for only 30minutes today and played Zombie Tsunami for approx 20 minutes wich only drains 2% on the battery monitor ...
golgoth57 said:
Hi guys,
I will search your thread cause I have this huge battery drain problem too.
I'm on 4.2.2 for long now but for 1 or 2 months now, my battery drains very rapidly when I'm watching movies or series ... I can use the samsung player or MX player it's just the same ...
When I'm 100%, i loose more than 10 % in 15 minutes of watching ... in fact my train travel in the morning is 30 minutes, and If i'm watching a movie, during the trip I loose nearly 30 % !!!
The thing is when I'm playing games or do something else, there is no such drain ... and as you I get only approx 3% or 4% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping ...
This drives me crazy ...
At 56% at 3:00 pm today (I'm french), since a discharge at 6:00 am, my batteries info from parameters are :
Screen : 39 %
Network / Radio function : 33% (what is this ?)
MX player : 16 %
Sleep mode : 3 %
And the rest is under 2 or 3 % ...
For example, I watch a movie for only 30minutes today and played Zombie Tsunami for approx 20 minutes wich only drains 2% on the battery monitor ...
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I wonder if your using data connection instead of Wifi...Data would draw more power when used, that is probably why you see Network/Radio about as high as screen. I have MX player pro as well so it is not an issue with MX player.
When I watch Netflix I get about 12% an hour drain with Miracast activated. As for playing video files on SD, it can be a lot lower to a lot higher depending on size and bit rate. Remember media playback has a number of things going on, speaker / earphones, video quality, and screen brightness will draw power at higher levels. I suggest doing a test with BBC iplayer for streaming when at home since your in France. Watch about 30 minutes with power saver enabled. You should get about 5% drain at most for the 30 minute test. If you are doing that, I would think the Data connection would be your primary issue with power drain. A way you can boost battery while watching video when traveling, you can purchase an external rechargeable battery. Both Data and GPS will suck the power right out of your device much faster than WIFI and there are a few battery calibration apps that use GPS to quick discharge for faster calibration.
Hope this helps in understanding.
I've got a similar issue.
I've seen a change recently, because the battery lasts much shorter now than only a few weeks ago. I suspect it could have to do with having run the battery too low (below 20%) a couple of times, specially with my kid playing games or watching Youtube on it. 49% of consumption is the screen, 27% is Android OS, Skype 11%. I haven't installed any new apps in that tim, although I updated Skype to a well functioning version (4.6.0.42007), but with it consuming 11% of total energy, I doubt that being the culprit. I haven't change the energy conservation setting (it's turned off), so it's not that either. On the other hand I turned on Playstore apps updating recently, and that might have something to do with it.
Today the Note even went dead, I didn't notice any battery alert. Is there a way to turn a SOUND on for this. Can't seem to find it. However, the Samsung UI keeps making little ringing noises with every received mail, right up to the device shutting off (sound on message alert is turned off). Any way to turn that off?
Gadgety said:
I've got a similar issue.
I've seen a change recently, because the battery lasts much shorter now than only a few weeks ago. I suspect it could have to do with having run the battery too low (below 20%) a couple of times, specially with my kid playing games or watching Youtube on it. 49% of consumption is the screen, 27% is Android OS, Skype 11%. I haven't installed any new apps in that tim, although I updated Skype to a well functioning version (4.6.0.42007), but with it consuming 11% of total energy, I doubt that being the culprit. I haven't change the energy conservation setting (it's turned off), so it's not that either. On the other hand I turned on Playstore apps updating recently, and that might have something to do with it.
Today the Note even went dead, I didn't notice any battery alert. Is there a way to turn a SOUND on for this. Can't seem to find it. However, the Samsung UI keeps making little ringing noises with every received mail, right up to the device shutting off (sound on message alert is turned off). Any way to turn that off?
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Ah, wow! I always have my screen much higher than any app with battery consumption. I use Dolphin browser for Youtube video while browsing with flash enabled and flash.apk installed as well. I prefer the youtube app for links to youtube from emails.
As for sound, it depends on the app that sends notifications. I just block the device most of the time. Though google has options to use default notifications sometimes it can get confused when you set your devices notifications to silent. Then you must change googles notification to silent as well. I think you do that in language and input in one of the google settings for TTS or Voice. It is really a pain but then again that is why I just block and leave things be. Block is in the Notification panel. you can open the complete switch panel by choosing the squares in the upper right.
When your device hit 100%, unplug your device, turn it off and put it into the power socket. Does it say the charge is 100% or does it take another half an hour before it say 100%?
If that's the case you have a battery calibration problem. The software thinks it's fully charged when the battery is only half charged.
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When your device hit 100%, unplug your device, turn it off and put it into the power socket. Does it say the charge is 100% or does it take another half an hour before it say 100%?
If that's the case you have a battery calibration problem. The software thinks it's fully charged when the battery is only half charged.
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k
I am sorry to say this... but I have had my own issues with power, and that is why I made a thread about such issues.
What you describe is almost what all OEM Note 8.0 devices do. It will show charging again once you have reconnected power after charging.
It has nothing to do with calibration needed to the battery. I have done this many times with Stock and Civato's ROM. If you do not want the issue with Touchwiz DVFS, download an app to disable it. Then you will not see that sort of issue any more. I do not recommend using tools of any sort to circumvent normal operation, but many have disabled DVFS without ill effects so they have a more accurate view of charge capacity.
Nobody here, including me can tell you what is going on directly with your battery without seeing critical information. If anything post the top battery eaters before you charge. This way we can see what is happening. For the most part media seems to be the issue. As google music player will run in background as Media Server no matter how many times you reboot it will try to re index media files over and over. I froze my Google Music player so the issue is non-existent
Another issue is USB charging cables. Samsung cables are not that good. I moved on to Sony / Nokia cables as they are superior cables and a wee longer to boot.
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Ah, wow! I always have my screen much higher than any app with battery consumption. I use Dolphin browser for Youtube video while browsing with flash enabled and flash.apk installed as well. I prefer the youtube app for links to youtube from emails.
As for sound, it depends on the app that sends notifications. I just block the device most of the time. Though google has options to use default notifications sometimes it can get confused when you set your devices notifications to silent. Then you must change googles notification to silent as well. I think you do that in language and input in one of the google settings for TTS or Voice. It is really a pain but then again that is why I just block and leave things be. Block is in the Notification panel. you can open the complete switch panel by choosing the squares in the upper right.
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Thank you for the reply. Regarding sound, I thought it was Samsung's @mail inbox app, but it was Microsoft's Exchange. So that is now on silent. Didn't have any effect (!). Under Settings --> Personal --> Google, sound is also set to silent (!!).
Under Language I found Language, Keyboard, Speech and Mouse pointer, and sound for key press could be disabled (it already was).
The Unit's system sounds for ringing and messages have been on silent the whole time (!!!). Still not getting rid of it.
The low energy alert, I don't know whether that is Google or Samsung's Touchwiz. I have sound (I would like to get an auditory warning)? If so, where would that be? It seems I've been through all the settings, but since I haven't been able to turn off the sound alert for incoming mail, or turn off the auditory alarm for low energy, there probably are other settings I've missed.
Come to think of it, this subject would probably would go better under a different thread.
Thank you for your assistance.
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k
I am sorry to say this... but I have had my own issues with power, and that is why I made a thread about such issues.
What you describe is almost what all OEM Note 8.0 devices do. It will show charging again once you have reconnected power after charging.
It has nothing to do with calibration needed to the battery. I have done this many times with Stock and Civato's ROM. If you do not want the issue with Touchwiz DVFS, download an app to disable it. Then you will not see that sort of issue any more. I do not recommend using tools of any sort to circumvent normal operation, but many have disabled DVFS without ill effects so they have a more accurate view of charge capacity.
Nobody here, including me can tell you what is going on directly with your battery without seeing critical information. If anything post the top battery eaters before you charge. This way we can see what is happening. For the most part media seems to be the issue. As google music player will run in background as Media Server no matter how many times you reboot it will try to re index media files over and over. I froze my Google Music player so the issue is non-existent
Another issue is USB charging cables. Samsung cables are not that good. I moved on to Sony / Nokia cables as they are superior cables and a wee longer to boot.
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Which app can disable the Samsung dvfs?
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Which app can disable the Samsung dvfs?
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Just search on google play for DVFS... you will need to be rooted.... I like saferoot.zip, and to install xposed framework. Most gamers prefer to disable, but it does wonders for true battery reading and charging.
http://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/2la6cg/noticed_i_can_get_my_moto_360_to_last_24_days/
A rudamentary discussion is over at the link above about an idea a couple of us have. The short of it is that with the ability to build profiles from an app on your phone, you could disable notifications/bluetooth (on the phone)/ ambient/ etc and that has been shown to dramatically improve battery life ( up to 3 days ). I'm curious if a developer with a Wear device would entertain the idea of putting something like this together. I would be happy to pay for an application that could make these types of adjustments through definable profiles, and I suspect many others would as well.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Quick update. Battery life on the watch is improved by ~40% in a controlled test by disabling bluetooth on the paired phone. More details on the thread at Reddit.
Wtf is the point of disabling Bluetooth on the phone? The watch can't do what it's supposed to do then?
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I don't think that can be accurate. I've found that my watch has much worse battery life when not paired, as it is constantly searching for a bluetooth device to pair with... Maybe they mean airplane mode. But if that's the case, the watch is barely more featured than any normal old watch....
As discussed in the thread @ Reddit, the idea is that we're often in a situation where you don't need the watch. If I'm sitting at my desk, I have Chrome open, have my phone in front of me on a dock, etc. Using the watch is cumbersome if I already have my hands on a keyboard and mouse. Therefore, draining 7-12% per hour is a waste. If you consider that many of us are in a position for 6-8 hours a day where the watch will not be used, and the lifespan of the watch is anywhere from 12-18 hours, than turning off bluetooth can mean your watch may last longer than 24 hours and be more effective when you do require it.
This may not apply to you. But it will for many.
As for its effectiveness, I've done it two days in a row now. Using Wear Battery Stats, the results are consistently 40%+ reduction in battery discharge.
so what would be the conditions for matching the profile? meetings? GPS location? times of day?
also, you'd have to have an app present on the watch itself to make this functional, which would limit you to solely duration of time. so technically you'd be limited to the appointments on your calendar - but if you're in airplane mode, is this even possible?
i think the phone could issue a command to the watch to go to airplane mode, but how to get it back out is a bit more complicated. time is the only factor that i can think of. if you move locations, leave your desk, etc., you'd have to manually set it out of airplane, which is not something that interests me.
i'm still waiting for the ability to turn off teh motion sensor.
I just did a logical cheap DIY. (it does not put a stress in the battery)
I put my charger dock to my TIMER wall plug.
I wake up everyday at 05:45. When I go to sleep I have about 25% battery life, I put the watch on my dock and do not charge it.
At 04:00 my wall charger turns automatically ON and starts charging my watch, When I wake up it's 100% . Moto 360 did NOT charge all night, and it goes from about 10% - 20% (witch is almost best ) to 100%.
cvenk said:
I just did a logical cheap DIY. (it does not put a stress in the battery)
I put my charger dock to my TIMER wall plug.
I wake up everyday at 05:45. When I go to sleep I have about 25% battery life, I put the watch on my dock and do not charge it.
At 04:00 my wall charger turns automatically ON and starts charging my watch, When I wake up it's 100% . Moto 360 did NOT charge all night, and it goes from about 10% - 20% (witch is almost best ) to 100%.
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1. not sure how this relates to the OP.
2. isn't the battery "sweet spot" 80-40%? theoretically reducing the battery to 10% puts more wear on the battery than charging overnight? what if you switched your timer to charge first, then disable?
Yes. What I'm envisioning at bare minimum would be:
- An application on the smart watch that can disable bluetooth locally. That way you can keep it on the phone for your car stereo, headphone, etc features. This could be used through Google Voice (Tap screen and say "Open Sleep Now" or whatever). Also have the ability to open from any standard launcher such as "Wear Mini Launcher" or a Swipe command so you can quickly enable it when you sit down at your desk.
- The application on the smart watch includes the ability to force dim the screen or show a black screen like Slumber until you press/hold the button or press the screen to wake it.
- The application on the smart watch would have a feature to keep bluetooth turned off/screen turned off until the watch detects feedback from the accelerometer that there is significant and consistent movement over X period of time. This would help some people configure it not to go off while at their desk but while walking around the office/home/etc.
A more advanced version could offer additional features from the smartphone such as location awareness based on Wifi/GPS, but my understanding is that such a feature would burn through the smartphone battery. If not, then the ability to disable bluetooth on the smartphone based on location or detection of wifi APs would be another way to approach this. However, I believe that many people would find the first few feature recommendations above beneficial enough.
i hadn't considered the accelerometer but i think it will be tricky to get it right. i feel like the watch would be turning off/on the BT a LOT. sorry to sound so pessimistic - i think some test cases are warranted here.
your last point i just don't see feasible given the limitations of the watch. sacrifice the phone battery for the watch battery doesn't sound like an ideal situation and I'm not convinced it would be effective at reducing battery usage on the watch either.
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i hadn't considered the accelerometer but i think it will be tricky to get it right. i feel like the watch would be turning off/on the BT a LOT. sorry to sound so pessimistic - i think some test cases are warranted here.
your last point i just don't see feasible given the limitations of the watch. sacrifice the phone battery for the watch battery doesn't sound like an ideal situation and I'm not convinced it would be effective at reducing battery usage on the watch either.
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Agreed. Again, at bare minimum, if I had a bluetooth/wireless toggle switch on the smartwatch, that would be a huge benefit. I could turn it off while driving and sitting at my desk.
Also, as discussed on reddit, it does not only apply to bluetooth on and off. With profiles, you can turn off HR monitor, step counter, etc when you're seated at the office and just turn it back on when you leave. It can also be scheduled (if you leave office at 5pm, start the profile that enables most services by 4:30pm).
For me, the 8 hours a day that I work, I don't need email or social apps notifying me on my watch since I have a computer in front of me the whole time. I also don't need the HR triggering every so often. At the bare minimum, I just need calendar reminders and SMS via hangouts. If there is a way to set "Office" profile scheduled every 9am to 5pm then revert back to the default profile outside of those times, it would be great.
I had good battery life before 5.1.1 despite many apps loaded including WatchMaker Pro. Was able to get through end of day and then some.
After 5.1.1 update can't get more than 7 hours. I tried completely resetting watch, removing/reinstalling Android Wear/Moto apps from phone and clearing BT. Tried removing many apps, turned off WiFi, turned off card flip, ambient off, even turned off flip to wake which I had on before. There are less battery munching things installed and more functions turned off yet much lower battery life.
Battery Level indicator shows...
- Android Wear 8%
- Bluetooth 6%
- Android System 4%
- Screen 3%
I saw post about clearing everything off phone and starting over, which I've done.
Any suggestions?
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Edit: Based on responses below, it has been fixed.
Here is exactly what I did that solved my battery life issues after 5.1.1 update. I don't know if all steps necessary but is what worked for me...
- Go to Android Wear app on phone, Settings>Moto360 Connected>Forget Watch at bottom of screen
- Phone App Manager in Settings, Select Android Wear - Clear Data, Clear Cache, Uninstall App. Also uninstall Moto Connect app.
- Check Bluetooth, unpair watch if still there. Turn off Bluetooth.
- Reboot Phone (Do this, I missed this step and had issues)
- Do a factory/hard reset on Watch from Watch Settings
- On phone, turn on Bluetooth after rebooted.
- Install this version of Android Wear (this may not be required but is what I did)...
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...roid-wear-1-1-1-1956917-android-apk-download/
- Setup as if new watch
- Check battery level over time and hopefully 'Watch Idle' is on top of list
- After confirming battery drain resolved....
- Goto Android Wear, Settings>Moto360 Connected>Resync apps
I now get well over a 24 hours battery life with many apps installed and complex Watchmaker Pro face - everything turned on except WiFi, ambient screen. Watch Idle shows as top item in Battery level screen.
I eventually let Android Wear app update under Google Play and all was fine. It may not be necessary to install older version first but is what I did.
I have had the same results. I used to sleep with my watch on and the battery would drain about 18% in 7 hours. Since installing 5.1.1, my battery life is much worse. This morning i woke and only had 2% charge left. Today I went from 8:30am to 2:30pm and had 39% charge left with minimal use, so it burns around 10% an hour.
xenokc said:
I had good battery life before 5.1.1 despite many apps loaded including WatchMaker Pro. Was able to get through end of day and then some.
After 5.1.1 update can't get more than 7 hours. I tried completely resetting watch, removing/reinstalling Android Wear/Moto apps from phone and clearing BT. Tried removing many apps, turned off WiFi, turned off card flip, ambient off, even turned off flip to wake which I had on before. There are less battery munching things installed and more functions turned off yet much lower battery life.
Battery Level indicator shows...
- Android Wear 8%
- Bluetooth 6%
- Android System 4%
- Screen 3%
I saw post about clearing everything off phone and starting over, which I've done.
Any suggestions?
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Is there an app syncing data to your watch (Play Music) or anything? Here are my stats so far today:
- Idel 8%
- Android Wear 4%
- Android System 3%
- Screen 3%
- Bluetooth 2%
- Wifi 1%
(I had 4 other apps at 1% each that I did not list)
I have had my watch off the charger for 9 hours and lost 37% battery (4.1% and hour). The only thing I see is that your Bluetooth and Android Wear seem high, which would make me think there is some app syncing data to the watch.
Unninstall the Android wear APK that updated on June 18 on your phone, install the May 26 APK and deny the auto update feature, this worked for me.
With the update the watch lost 10% in 1 hour now it loses 10% in 7 hours
the link for the android wear apk is:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-wear/
Thanks all. I reset watch again, installed older version of Wear above and rebooted phone (important step I didn't do before). Am now getting 24+ hours even with a complex Wacthmaker Pro face I created that shows heartrate/steps/weather and 10 other stats. Am happy camper again. Watch Idle is now highest on battery activity.
BTW, Android Wear updated in Google Play to latest version and still great battery life.
7 hours is great. Mine died in 45 minutes. I got up - took it off the charger - it was at 100% - 45 mins later it had 12% left and a minute later died. I'll see how it goes tomorrow but 45 mins of battery time for a relatively new device is insane. It says that 98% of the battery is used by Android Wear.
The battery drained in 3 hours of no use, wtf happened? any idea?
I posted exactly what I did to solve my problem in the second half of the first post.
how can i see the battery level ??/ Just bought a new one
hoangtu2410 said:
how can i see the battery level ??/ Just bought a new one
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Go to Android Wear app on phone, Settings gear icon>Moto360 Connected>watch battery
edit: Seems odd it's so deeply hidden but the reason is because they now support multiple Wear devices so you have to select which device you want to see stats on even though most only have one.
I just bought it today but my batery life is just horrible. I updated to 5.0.2 and I don't think I should install 5.1.1.
This is what happends:
- I charge to 100%
- after 1 hour its dead.
hoangtu2410 said:
how can i see the battery level ??/ Just bought a new one
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drop down on the watch or open the android wear app tap the gear at the top right then select moto 360 and there is an option that reads watch battery.
Since the update I can't seem to get to bed with the 20 per cent of battery I used to. I have tilt, ambient, gestures, wifi and auto brightness on. Should I turn off wifi or something?
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Since the update I can't seem to get to bed with the 20 per cent of battery I used to. I have tilt, ambient, gestures, wifi and auto brightness on. Should I turn off wifi or something?
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Check battery level in Wear app and if Screen is high, it might be tilt, ambient, auto brightness. I'm not sure where WiFi shows up, maybe as Android System. I have WiFi turned off, would think it would be biggest battery muncher. Ambient also known to munch.
do you know how to remove moto heart rate software without root ?
I've been having really good luck with battery life considering. I lose about 3% an hour on Bluetooth and about 4% an hour on WiFi. I can't take my connected phone to work so I use another phone to create a hotspot. My watch spends about 9 hours straight on WiFi and I am having better than expected results. Tilt on. Ambient off. 180 min WiFi timeout. Stock rotate watch face. Auto brightness.
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I've got no issues with the watch on 5.1.1, but my Samsung S6 has been hit hard with the latest Android Wear app... fk me.. I used to get almost 5 hrs SOT, but now its just on 3.5hrs..
I think the watch/software is just buggy. Like today I got out at 10AM and it's now 11PM and it still has 58% battery. The other day it died in less than an hour.
PS: Perhaps it should be restarted every now and then. Reminds me of old times with Windows 98. Restart usually fixed lots of problems.
After doing the whole process of deleting apps, resetting the watch and pair the watch to the handset the battery lasted 2 and a half days
Hi all,
This has probably been asked so many times, but I've recently recieved my Nexus 5x on Friday (3 days ago) and I've not seen Doze kick in yet.
The battery seems to go quickly and I was hoping it'd last longer.
Any tips or checks I can do to see if Doze is working, or if I have battery problems. Does Doze take a while to activate?
Also all my apps are active, inside "Developer Options | Inactive Apps".
With default parameters Doze will only activate when the phone is off the charger, and has been screen off and motionless for at least an hour.
Any significant motion will delay it kicking in by half an hour whilst a screen on will delay it for another hour. It won't activate if a system setalarmclock() is due within an hour. Significant motion will also kick it out of doze if it's managed to get there.
It's a bit of a white elephant for the average phone user imho - there isn't a Doze logger app that I'm aware off but I've hacked a Doze detector function together with an automation app a few days ago and so far the device has managed to be in doze for a grand total of a about an hour in a 48 hour period (I charge overnight)
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63962529&postcount=700 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63534679&postcount=5