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[Q] Update Galaxy Note3 while Rooted

Hello,
I'm new to XDA and have a question. Couldn't find it that fast on the forums so made this new thread.
I own a Rooted Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-9005 and it's on android 4.3
When I click on software update I get an error message due to the fact my phone is rooted. I'm wondering if it's possible to update to 4.4.2?
I don't care about losing my root because I will root again. Already tripped Knox to 0x1 so I'm fine with that aswell.
Thanks in advance,
Wess

WMMA89 said:
Hello,
I'm new to XDA and have a question. Couldn't find it that fast on the forums so made this new thread.
I own a Rooted Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-9005 and it's on android 4.3
When I click on software update I get an error message due to the fact my phone is rooted. I'm wondering if it's possible to update to 4.4.2?
I don't care about losing my root because I will root again. Already tripped Knox to 0x1 so I'm fine with that aswell.
Thanks in advance,
Wess
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There is a complete walk thru guide inside the development section. Should be good after following that.

dragonstalker said:
There is a complete walk thru guide inside the development section. Should be good after following that.
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Thanks for your fast answer. It isn't clear for me where to find the "development section". Could you give me a link? Otherwise I'll keep searching!

WMMA89 said:
Thanks for your fast answer. It isn't clear for me where to find the "development section". Could you give me a link? Otherwise I'll keep searching!
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how are you accessing XDA? if on the phone you will have to go to devices, sm-n9005t and go to android development
if on the computer, just got to T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and you will see all of the sub sections

AT&T Note 4 Community Root Investigating

Note 4 owners over in the Verizon section are putting together a fair effort to investigate rooting themselves. We AT&T users should have a similar thread.
The Verizon thread, for reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/talk-root-t2908919
T-Mobile and Sprint have CF-Autoroot but not yet for AT&T and Verizon. So (I think) a new root should work for either, all the more reason to work together.
In the Verizon thread the general process was posted:
Surge1223 said:
I have no vested interest in this (other than seeing vzw get screwed over) but someone needs to get the ball rolling here:
1. Grab the Odin tar then boot.img to get kallsyms
2. Post partition info
3. Grab kernel source and confirm latest Linux kernel cves are patched/not patched
4. Find PoC for Linux exploits for 2014 Linux kernel cves and port them to android and test
If you have to ask what any of the above are/do Google is your friend.
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Feel free to read through the other thread for info on CVEs and stuff.
The Verizon owners have to wait for kernel source but I guess our's is already posted (N910A):
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=Sm-n910
SHA1 and SHA256 for the kernel source zip that I downloaded, for reference:
99e00529ce613548664f3c986cd7df886b54caa0 SM-N910A_NA_KK_Opensource.zip
9a5dfcbcd1b77367507b9374afd4f1e1afd505255ff48b4d3779b235974650c0 SM-N910A_NA_KK_Opensource.zip
This might not be necessary as someone like Chainfire may already be working on a rooting method, but we might make it slightly easier.
Any contributions by more knowledgeable people are greatly appreciated.
Anyone want to post their kallsyms, boot, or full image of an AT&T phone?
I'll try to post myself if I can figure out of I'm supposed to use Odin or if the way the Verizon owners got their's was with some Verizon-only tool.

We have firmware here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/stock-to-stock-odin-flashable-tested-t2915915
The kernel source is here:
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=Sm-n910a
That should get us started.

Tikerz said:
We have firmware here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/stock-to-stock-odin-flashable-tested-t2915915
The kernel source is here:
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=Sm-n910a
That should get us started.
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Nice! Yeah the kallsyms should definitely be in there.

Here are the kallsyms from the ATT image.

I've been googling but I can't figure it out
How do you get partition info from kallysyms?

v3ngence said:
I've been googling but I can't figure it out
How do you get partition info from kallysyms?
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You don't. The kallsyms are information about the internal kernel functions, useful for writing code which gets you root access.
Partition information sits in a .PIT file inside the factory image (if it's available), or you can dump it from a running phone.

SirAthos said:
Here are the kallsyms from the ATT image.
They match the Verizon kallsyms. Good sign for finding a root method that works on both. :good:
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They shouldn't match the Verizon n4 kallsyms... They should be different, if not then someone odd is happening..

Surge1223 said:
They shouldn't match the Verizon n4 kallsyms... They should be different, if not then someone odd is happening..
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I'll extract them again, maybe I missed something...
Edit: Gah, still had kernel.Image extacted from the Verizon image, and didn't notice the message saying "kernel.Image: already exists; not overwritten". The attachment above has been updated. My apologies, and thanks for catching it.

This may be interesting though. The nexus devices have a check box in the developer settings to OEM unlock the phone. Basically you just check a box and it's boot loader is unlocked.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-6-9-requires-checking-box-developer-options/
Maybe this can be used to find a loop hole on lollipop for this device. I think there could b be a small chance this device could get unlocked after the update. It might actually be easier.
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ShrekOpher said:
This may be interesting though. The nexus devices have a check box in the developer settings to OEM unlock the phone. Basically you just check a box and it's boot loader is unlocked.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-6-9-requires-checking-box-developer-options/
Maybe this can be used to find a loop hole on lollipop for this device. I think there could b be a small chance this device could get unlocked after the update. It might actually be easier.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using XDA Free mobile app
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While I appreciate the speculation, that's all this is, and at the moment we don't have Lollipop. I believe the OP specified good steps that should be looked into. I have downloaded the source code but am not exactly sure how to be looking for other then doing the steps as outlined: Finding the build date of the kernel then looking up know vulnerabilities in it. Obviously this is going to take a while and makes sense on where to look. Why focus on something we don't have when we could focus on what we do.
tl;dr We need to stay focused on the current task at hand. Also it'd be nice if this thread didn't get derailed with speculations.

ShrekOpher said:
This may be interesting though. The nexus devices have a check box in the developer settings to OEM unlock the phone. Basically you just check a box and it's boot loader is unlocked.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-6-9-requires-checking-box-developer-options/
Maybe this can be used to find a loop hole on lollipop for this device. I think there could b be a small chance this device could get unlocked after the update. It might actually be easier.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using XDA Free mobile app
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Didn't you get rid of your AT&T Note 4 for T-Mobile Note 4?

Tikerz said:
Didn't you get rid of your AT&T Note 4 for T-Mobile Note 4?
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I write custom enterprise software for phones. I own many including 2 different Note 4s. Most provided to me by my company. So no I still have the AT&T Note 4, I also have a T-Mobile variant for the time being. My team also has a sprint model as well.
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Srsroot
Has anyone heard if this actually works? I've been searching forums and the Internet in general looking for a possible root for the AT&T note 4
#SRSRoot: samsung SAMSUNG-SM-N910A (Build: KTU84P.N910AUCU1ANIE) #Android 4.4.4 Now Supported for #Root at SRSRoot.com (copied this from their twitter)

Drewsdad said:
Has anyone heard if this actually works? I've been searching forums and the Internet in general looking for a possible root for the AT&T note 4
#SRSRoot: samsung SAMSUNG-SM-N910A (Build: KTU84P.N910AUCU1ANIE) #Android 4.4.4 Now Supported for #Root at SRSRoot.com (copied this from their twitter)
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wonder if we can get a dev to dl and take a look???
i looked through there list and i dont see our phone listed

Drewsdad said:
Has anyone heard if this actually works? I've been searching forums and the Internet in general looking for a possible root for the AT&T note 4
#SRSRoot: samsung SAMSUNG-SM-N910A (Build: KTU84P.N910AUCU1ANIE) #Android 4.4.4 Now Supported for #Root at SRSRoot.com (copied this from their twitter)
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Just verified the tweet from October 26. I'm not sure, maybe this will be a pleasant surprise?

Mmm looking at the supported devices in their page I found the 910v and 910t... But no 910a

Monsi said:
Mmm looking at the supported devices in their page I found the 910v and 910t... But no 910a
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I don't see it either. Their tweet says our phone specifically has been added. Not sure of the supported devices hasn't been updated or what. I'm kinda sketchy about trying stuff that I haven't seen discussed on here. Does anyone know if the stock firmware is available yet.? At least that way if someone ends up with a brick we can at least Flash it back to normal

Monsi said:
Mmm looking at the supported devices in their page I found the 910v and 910t... But no 910a
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Pretty sure the Verizon crowd already dismissed this method. Likely a hoax.

Tried to find something in their forum but nothing... Something tell me that this is fake

Tried it and didn't get root.

Possible root??

Hi guys, like all of you i have been waiting patiently for root on my VZW Note 4. Upon doing a little research i found that Chainfire has rooted the note 4. I went to his website to see if the SM N910V is compatible and according to the site...it is!!!!!.......
Can someone please verify if this will work on the retail version on the VZW SM N910V.
Thanks

Predtechhacker said:
Hi guys, like all of you i have been waiting patiently for root on my VZW Note 4. Upon doing a little research i found that Chainfire has rooted the note 4. I went to his website to see if the SM N910V is compatible and according to the site...it is!!!!!.......
Can someone please verify if this will work on the retail version on the VZW SM N910V.
Thanks
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IIRC thats for the dev ed.

Ah crap. I was afraid of that....
Thanks man. Just out of curiosity, what would happen if I was to attempt that?
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Predtechhacker said:
Ah crap. I was afraid of that....
Thanks man. Just out of curiosity, what would happen if I was to attempt that?
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app
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You may brick your device. It is of course possible to bring your device back from such a disaster but you can avoid that by acknowledging that the Dev. Edition has an unlocked bootloader unlike the retail Verizon model which is why it was easier to root. I would wait for another method.

Predtechhacker said:
Ah crap. I was afraid of that....
Thanks man. Just out of curiosity, what would happen if I was to attempt that?
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app
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I've tried to flash a lot of stuff including this. Everything fails before it actually writes.

any way we can go back to 4.4.2
So if we can do that idk im.not great with these things i know i could down grade on my lgg3

Developer Edition vs Carrier Model. Explanation?

Can someone please explain to me what the EXACT difference is between the Verizon Note 4 DE and the stock Verizon note 4 DE.
I'm not a developer or programmer but is there really no way to utilize the discrepancy or software/hardware between the two devices to achieve root or unlocked bootloader??

badboyg200 said:
Can someone please explain to me what the EXACT difference is between the Verizon Note 4 DE and the stock Verizon note 4 DE.
I'm not a developer or programmer but is there really no way to utilize the discrepancy or software/hardware between the two devices to achieve root or unlocked bootloader??
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There is only one difference, besides the model numbers, and that is the unlocked bootloader. When you receive a Developer Edition Note you get exactly the same hardware, software, bloatware etc. that comes with the retail (carrier) version.

Does Developer Edition receive updates in parallel with the standard Note 4?
Second question is whether unlocked bootloader alone allow you to install su, etc and have root? Or are we still in need of some exploit, etc?

yearn2burn said:
Does Developer Edition receive updates in parallel with the standard Note 4?
Second question is whether unlocked bootloader alone allow you to install su, etc and have root? Or are we still in need of some exploit, etc?
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No, the DE does not receive updates. You have to do them by hand.
YES! The unlocked bootloader does allow you to install TWRP as well as achieve root. This is the reason I bought mine.

Fine to install manually if the updates are available. Are the updates available then?
Great about instant root access. I don't need a custom ROM with Xposed.

yearn2burn said:
Fine to install manually if the updates are available. Are the updates available then?
Great about instant root access. I don't need a custom ROM with Xposed.
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Yes, there is an updated stock (NJ5) firmware that can be ODIN safely for the Developer Edition Note 4.

hacksaw999 said:
No, the DE does not receive updates. You have to do them by hand.
YES! The unlocked bootloader does allow you to install TWRP as well as achieve root. This is the reason I bought mine.
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Where did you get hold of the Verizon dev editon? Samsungs website won't allow me to actually carry out the purchase.

jr00p said:
Where did you get hold of the Verizon dev editon? Samsungs website won't allow me to actually carry out the purchase.
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They are out of stock so you'll have to keep checking until they are available again.

airmaxx23 said:
They are out of stock so you'll have to keep checking until they are available again.
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So the little disclaimer at the bottom of the N4 DE purchase page about FCC clearance is not actually true?

The backlogged order form is to tell you when they are in. However its not a pre-order and first come first serve. So really its trying to get one is a super challenge at this point. You best bet is to call and ask when the next shipment is coming in and be on the ball several times a day checking the site to order. Its soo worth owning one.

jr00p said:
So the little disclaimer at the bottom of the N4 DE purchase page about FCC clearance is not actually true?
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Outdated...not updated....all US models of Note 4 passed FCC review...
Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / StarKissed / TWRP 2.8.3.0 trltevzw

jr00p said:
Where did you get hold of the Verizon dev editon? Samsungs website won't allow me to actually carry out the purchase.
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I got it from Samsung's website. I was just lucky enough to get one of the ones in the second wave of them that were released.
Eventually Samsung should make more available but they sure don't seem to be in any hurry.
I recommend you do NOT rely on the "preorder" link on the website at all. After the first wave sold out I put in a "preorder" and I never did get an email saying they were available once the second wave hit. I only knew about it because I made it a habit to check the site every day. Even though I've had the phone for several weeks now I still haven't been notified that it ever did come back into stock.

Sorry, it would sound so stupid to ask but I want to make sure... Does the DE and Retail have same model number? If not, how can I know to find the difference? I looked up on Google for model number and end up with same number with my phone that I bought from Verizon from day 1 when it came out.

You have the retail model since you purchased from Verizon. DE must be purchased directly from Samsung.

Reilly1812 said:
You have the retail model since you purchased from Verizon. DE must be purchased directly from Samsung.
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Thanks for clearing up. I was trying to figure out what to do since the root for retail model is not out yet...

Would I lose root if I flashed a T-Mobile ROM on my DE?

kheltek said:
Would I lose root if I flashed a T-Mobile ROM on my DE?
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Pretty sure you would lose data and a few other things....there us a verizon version of FireKat in the Tmo rom section in the FireKat thread.
Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / StarKissed / TWRP 2.8.3.0.trltevzw

How to root, install twrp , custom ROM

Hey, guys I am using Samsung note 5 N920v
32gb I wanted to root it but don't know how to remove it kernal plzz help
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You can't install a custom recovery or a custom ROM. You are stuck on stock.

gg83744 said:
You can't install a custom recovery or a custom ROM. You are stuck on stock.
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No way to do that?
Then how can I root that??
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Piyush Garg said:
Hey, guys I am using Samsung note 5 N920v
32gb I wanted to root it but don't know how to remove it kernal plzz help
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First of all you're in the wrong thread, this is for AT&T devices and your SM-N920V is a Verizon device which cannot be rooted as of yet and I suggest you use the Verizon thread to avoid confusing people and flashing stuff for the wrong device.

Ii belive users were waiting for an update and if they made the update available to download away from the phone. Update was required so users could build a root for att galaxy note 5. From what I read

-Epix- said:
Ii belive users were waiting for an update and if they made the update available to download away from the phone. Update was required so users could build a root for att galaxy note 5. From what I read
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Yeah i read this too!

We have root for att note 5, it sucks but it's root. Verizon may never get root and I really mean it. They are locked down harder then fort KNOX!!

TechNyne66 said:
We have root for att note 5, it sucks but it's root. Verizon may never get root and I really mean it. They are locked down harder then fort KNOX!!
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Do you happen to have the link for the root method for the AT&T model? I've been dying to root it since I switched from Verizon...

robfowler31 said:
Do you happen to have the link for the root method for the AT&T model? I've been dying to root it since I switched from Verizon...
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I would advise against it, but it's in the general secton Labled N920A Temp Root.

TechNyne66 said:
We have root for att note 5, it sucks but it's root. Verizon may never get root and I really mean it. They are locked down harder then fort KNOX!!
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Really? How can i get that root? Have tried many root apps (kingroot, kingoroot, iroot) and still unsuccessful..

Yes ive tried every thing there is no stable root method I mean you can[kind of] if you haven't updated to marshmallow. Im unlocked and using tmobil but you dont get the aws bands so service isnt as good as a legit tmobil phone.