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If these is a good thread that truly answer my question please point me in that direction, I must have missed it.
When it comes to the Evo 4g specifically, what are some of the disadvantages of going with an AOSP rom, and what are the reasons for them? (Not CM7 specifically, AOSP in general)
Such as, it sounds like GPS and the compass generally do not work as well in AOSP builds as in Sense. -> is it true and is it just due to not being able to use HTC drivers/code?
3g speeds are slower -> Same as gps?
Thank you!
Im on CM7, and no faults. My 4G I can get 6mb down...3G is fine. My GPS is SPOT on while indoors even, never have had to use a fix. AOSP in general is smaller in size, so it can run faster. The only downside is you don't get sense apps and widgets. Though while on AOSP you have to flash a sense rom to update PRL, but that takes 5 minutes.
Some users have different experiences though. Its worth a try.
In my experience, AOSP ROMs have better battery life without sacrificing performance or neutering push notifications. Also AOSP is going to be your earliest opportunity to play with the latest Android builds.
Maybe I am doing something wrong but when I'm on cm7 my gps does not work very well at all. I would use AOSP but I personally have not found one that my gps is reliable on.
jplowamn said:
Maybe I am doing something wrong but when I'm on cm7 my gps does not work very well at all. I would use AOSP but I personally have not found one that my gps is reliable on.
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Did you try the fix on a sense rom? Also, you can try opening maps first, then navigation; that works for some users.
Hi all,
The Dev Forum seems to be pretty abundant with Sense-based ROMs at the moment, and I guess that's to be expected with 3.0 being everyone's new(ish) favourite thing, but not all of us are Sense fans and I just wanted to get people's opinions on the current state of play concerning AOSP ROMs and their latest versions, especially around battery life.
What have you used / are you using, and how do the current suite of AOSP ROMs compare with each other in terms of battery life (but other stuff as well)?
I'd love to hear about people's recent experiences.
Thanks.
This rom is the best aosp rom I've used yet. Blazing fast and amazing battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1070501
I tried Gingerbeast, HydrogenMod, Hikari, CyanogenMod and Ginger S and I can't seem to get any of them to be 100% fully functional. I've had a problem with bluetooth not working, not being able to import contacts, the home button stops working, com.android.phone force closing, etc. I've full wiped, reinstalled, fixed permissions, etc, but I can't get any AOSP rom to work. Surely there must be a leak of the AOSP rom that HTC use before adding Sense and other HTC addons?
While AOSP roms are light wight and seem fast they will never compare to roms built off of sense roms. Why you ask. Look at the roms like CM7 and other AOSP roms, they have to use open source drivers that dont make full use of the hardware. Like wifi and blue tooth. Both lose 25% strength because of the Open Source drivers instead of using the drivers built for the Phone like the closed source HTC drivers.
Umm, apologies if I've confused myself out of sheer ignorance, but can't you just flash a custom kernel like Lordmod's excellent one, which DOES contain official DHD phone drivers?
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Umm, apologies if I've confused myself out of sheer ignorance, but can't you just flash a custom kernel like Lordmod's excellent one, which DOES contain official DHD phone drivers?
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Sense based kernels will not work on an AOSP roms
LM is a aosp kernel.
i don't see any problems with pretty much all of the AOSP kernels i have used (Most CM based ones, quite a few Miui Ones, and the default CM7). The Wifi and BT work, gaming is pretty good, and its also much less laggy (Sense based roms occasionally freeze for no reason. Its annoying with music playing)
The only thing i dislike about AOSP roms is the camera which doesnt have touch to focus video recording, but pretty much every other sense feature can be replaced by a free, custom app (LauncherPro is much better than rosie 3.0/.5, custom video players play more movies, etc.)
you could always flash a sense/rosie/app remover on top of a sense based rom
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LM is a aosp kernel.
i don't see any problems with pretty much all of the AOSP kernels i have used (Most CM based ones, quite a few Miui Ones, and the default CM7). The Wifi and BT work, gaming is pretty good, and its also much less laggy (Sense based roms occasionally freeze for no reason. Its annoying with music playing)
The only thing i dislike about AOSP roms is the camera which doesnt have touch to focus video recording, but pretty much every other sense feature can be replaced by a free, custom app (LauncherPro is much better than rosie 3.0/.5, custom video players play more movies, etc.)
you could always flash a sense/rosie/app remover on top of a sense based rom
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Unless you needed to connect to a spicific type of network or need BT to work a certain way you wouldn't notice it.
zelendel said:
While AOSP roms are light wight and seem fast they will never compare to roms built off of sense roms. Why you ask. Look at the roms like CM7 and other AOSP roms, they have to use open source drivers that dont make full use of the hardware. Like wifi and blue tooth. Both lose 25% strength because of the Open Source drivers instead of using the drivers built for the Phone like the closed source HTC drivers.
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Yeah, not sure about that 25% statement, mate.
I've been running CM7 Nightlies or CM-based ROMS for a while now and, if anything, I've noticed a significant improvement in connectivity (in general) from what I previously experienced on Sense ROMs. I'm sure that Lord Clockan's excellent kernels have a lot to do with it, but anyway...
I suppose everyone's experience is different.
Hy,
I am also a HUGE fan of AOSP. Since I bought my DHD it had Sense for one day because I had no time to flash. I also spent some time comparing Sense vs. AOSP Roms, and can say that AOSP has better performance on my DHD then Sense and always used them with the kernel they come with.
Aosp all the way. My recommended roms:
Oxygen Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348425
TalonRom:
http://code.google.com/p/talon-rom/
OMFGB:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/6052-aospcustom-gingerbreadomfgb-131-nightlies/
OMGB:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/7923-rompure-gingerbreadomgb-123237/
All are my personal favorites.
Regards
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All are my personal favorites.
Regards
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Hmm Not sure that makes sense!
I survived rooting an S3, flashing CM9 and then having wi-fi work fine that day but cease functioning the next. I tried CM10 but that didn't fix the wi-fi issue. I went back to stock 4.1.1 LK3 and wi-fi works. Are the wi-fi drivers in CM not that good? Nothing I tried could get connectivity after the first day. Reflashing didn't fix the issue.
I can live with relatively minor bugs in ROMs, but not when it comes to wi-fi. What else should I be trying? I'm thinking of LiquidSmooth, but am open to suggestions. What I did love about CM was how fast it booted and ran.
One person here whose opinion I highly respect uses Task ROM and Lean kernel. Anyone else like those?
Well there are many different roms out there I personally run Jellybam which is a mixture of AOKP, CM10, and Paranoid Android. Also, it's pretty stable i have the occasional Wifi drops but you just have to turn it off and turn it back on and I have problems with the Paranoid Android part of it. From what i know Cyanogenmod has moved on to 10.1 which is 4.2.1 and i think AOKP has move on to 4.2.1 and i think they are still working on some bugs. But i haven't been on their threads in a while.
But i heard that AOCP The Collective and Jedi Invasion are stable roms just to name a few (don't know 100%) but i would read up on their threads before doing anything as to be 100% sure before flashing. For example I read that someone had problems with Jedi Invasion 2.1 but 2.0 worked great for them, etc.
i had horrible wifi on any rom i tried. it onky worked on stock for me when i turned off wifi power saving. however the newest aokp from task, android 4.2 has fixed my problems and i no longer experience problems.
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I find it odd that wi-fi is such an issue given how common and universal this technology is. Plus wi-fi is such an essential service, far more than many other features. Appreciate the replies, which have given me new ROMs to research more closely.
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Well there are many different roms out there I personally run Jellybam which is a mixture of AOKP, CM10, and Paranoid Android.
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Not finding this. Search has zero results. Wrong spelling?
Ive had wifi issues on all cm 10 and aokp based roms. I havent had any wifi issues on the newer cm 10.1 or aokp 4.2 or any of the touch wiz based roms. Another option is use an app called smart wifi toggler it seems to work pretty well and is free on the play store.
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Ive had wifi issues on all cm 10 and aokp based roms. I havent had any wifi issues on the newer cm 10.1 or aokp 4.2 or any of the touch wiz based roms. Another option is use an app called smart wifi toggler it seems to work pretty well and is free on the play store.
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Well, I'm looking at Task & Ktoonsez AOKP Task 4.2.1 as a first-choice potential ROM, so your positive remark about wi-fi is good to read.
I do use the wi-fi toggle you noted, but it won't overcome a functional wi-fi issue in a ROM...at least for me.
Out of curiosity, do these hybrid ROMs run themes for CM, AOKP and others or only one specific type?
Task and Ktoonsez is a great ROM really stable. I was using it for a while but I am actually running Liquid Smooth RC9 right now and its my ROM of choice. I personally like the vanilla experience you get from Liquidsmooth. The Liquid Splasher is incredibly customizable, and no issues with wifi whatsoever.
Good luck!
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Task and Ktoonsez is a great ROM really stable. I was using it for a while but I am actually running Liquid Smooth RC9 right now and its my ROM of choice. I personally like the vanilla experience you get from Liquidsmooth. The Liquid Splasher is incredibly customizable, and no issues with wifi whatsoever.
Good luck!
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I read LS thread and was concerned about posts regarding different RCs. Some love RC7, others RC9, and there seemed to be a lot of things waiting to be fixed. No? I'm probably going to try the TK ROM first, but am keeping an eye on LS because I have a second S3 that I will root and flash after first one is ready for daily use. The wi-fi issue is most important to me, so I'm interested that you have had no problems on your S3.
Is Liquid Splasher the launcher?
Does LS support AOKP/CM10 themes?
Liquid Splasher is the internal customizer to set a various array of settings and configurations, there is a huge amount of options so kind of hard to give you a detailed listing of what it can do. LS Launcher is stock nothing special about it but you can always just install nova if you prefer nova.
Yes I have been able to run AOKP themes.
Heres the unofficial thread about LS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012791
I am sure you will really like Tasks ROM its really good from the experience I had. But for me personally I am just having a lot more success with LS in regards to performance and app compatibility, and battery life. It seems everyone has a little different experience with custom ROM`s so I can only speak for myself that LS has been rock solid for me.
Hope that helps somewhat.
Yes, your remarks have been very helpful. Always good to read comments from someone with experience with these things. Most appreciated.
I've been using Cyanogen mod 10 for a year or so now, and the biggest gripe I have with it is that Wifi Calling doesn't work. I was looking around and couldn't find a ROM that supported Wifi Calling. Everything is AOSP based these days. I'd greatly appreciate the help. Thanks in advance.
Pretty much any 4.1.2 Roms so if you look for those I know there's a few maybe two good ones. But pretty much just about any 4.1.2 ROM that is touch wiz based will have WiFi calling. I wish it was in newer versions like 4.4 because I used to use it a lot
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I just got a new t989 and I've been flashing like mad. I've tried numerous JB, ICS, and GB roms and the DEVs really put a lot of work=time into making them REAL nice for everyone here. For me, I just needed wifi-calling and prefer a nice lean machine, so GB based roms are great for me. I'm currently running slickMOD SUPREME and it's been great. Gonna try some more cuz I'm a junkie tho
Here are some links for you to name a few:
Jedi Mind Trick JB 8 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818305&highlight=stock - (4.1.2)
T989 customized UVMC6 JellyBeast Odexed - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2310126
StockWalk T989UVMC6 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234624&highlight=stock (4.1.2; Literally just discovered this one myself)
Stock TMobile T989UVMC6 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344942&highlight=stock (4.1.2; plain Jane; good fallback)
DARTHSTALKER VERSION #4 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903197 - (4.0.4)
Here's a list of t989 roms at GalaxyS2ROOT - http://galaxys2root.com/category/t-mobile-galaxy-s2-roms/ - (look thru them; there are video reviews and it's usually mentioned which are stock and have wifi-calling)
Nice list of 2.3.x roms if you don't mind travelling back in time - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II/SGH-T989/ROMs
slickMOD SUPREME - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509473
What you're looking for are "stock" based roms, Unless I'm mistaken, nobody has performed the miracle of AOSP, AOKP, CM + wifi-calling yet.
Hope that helps
FYI: I'm running Jedi Mind Trick JB 8 and it's slick as $**t. Very polished and wifi-calling works great. Just follow the installation info to the letter. Also, Rushing just released Shadow_SU. Nice and fresh and should contain the latest/ greatest you can expect from UVMC6. I wasn't able to test wifi-calling works yet as I ended up in a boot loop which was most definitely MY fault, NOT the rom. Gonna give it another whirl. There are a lot of great roms out there, old and new, and I'm not as depressed now as I was when I first realised I was stuck shopping at StockROM Mart, thanks to the many great devs
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I've been using Cyanogen mod 10 for a year or so now, and the biggest gripe I have with it is that Wifi Calling doesn't work. I was looking around and couldn't find a ROM that supported Wifi Calling. Everything is AOSP based these days. I'd greatly appreciate the help. Thanks in advance.
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Hey, I am new at this, but I have been flashing all kinds of roms fro cm10-11, beanstalk 4.4, and a few other and my go back to for DD is jedi mind trick v7. is the only one that is very stable in my t-989 and has wifi calling which is awesome now that I am in Mexico and I can still call the USA over wifi, I hope this helps.
Hi guys,
I'm rooted and would like to enable tethering. I know about enabling Hotspot if you have your MSL. Are there any other ways as I don't have my MSL?
Now that I'm rooted are there any apps that can give me MSL number? The app I've used only seems to work for HTC devices.
best way is install custom rom..
sac23 note 5 port and hybrid 3.0 is best rom for me
vivrosh said:
best way is install custom rom..
sac23 note 5 port and hybrid 3.0 is best rom for me
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Right now I'm running the 100% Stock ROM that doesn't have Knox and Itson. Reason why I decided to stick to Stock is because I really don't want to deal with the quirks and issues that custom ROMS bring. Plus there are sooooo many ROMs in the development section it's tough to chose one when you're a newbie.
Any particular reason why you chose that ROM over others? And do you have any issues whatsoever with it?
Anyone have a way of getting my MSL number myself, now that I'm rooted, without the need of having to contact provider?
Roms should list it that the hotspot is activated for use. CM12.1 has it. But im haveyingbattery drain issues lately with that.. So Im also looking for a new stable custom rom
I definitely want to stay away from custom ROMS. Too buggy, specifically AOSP ROMS. That's all i used before and so I'm very familiar with all their quirks and mishaps.
If i can find a custom ROM (or if you can recommend one) that has everything working (like stock ROMS do ) I'll jump ship immediately. Until then, I'll take stock and stability day.
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Aosp are not buggy. Cyanogen is really good. I'm running nightlies.
Definitely Hybrid. Very close to stock with minor changes, including addition of hotspot. Very stable, really no issues. Just make sure you chose Hybrid and not the Hybrid X version which is more modded. They're both in the same thread in Android Development
Cyanogen mod has no bugs. Just no finger print support but that should be coming soon specially with cm13 coming down the pipe. The night builds are great you just have to activate your network within the ROM when you first start. But my phone doesn't crash no force closes or anything. Battery isn't all that bad... I honestly think I was having calibration issues with my zero lemon .