Does the moto360 have Compass?? - Moto 360

Hi,
I really like the idea of having compass on my Moto360, and was quite happy to see that Watch maker for example, provide compass feature.
I actually installed few faces with compass, but most of them or does not work at all, or work one in ten times of use.
I open discussion in one of Google+ related groups, and someone said that actually, the moto360 does not have compass in the unit,
therefore, it is mostly software solution that works from time to time.
Can someone confirm this issue, and in case this should work, advise what is needed to do in order to have it running properly?
Thanks,
Tomer

The 360 does not seem to have an integrated compass/magnetometer. If you use a watch face with a compass, it always seems to point north when the screen is activated, and then rotates based on accelerometer input. Not accurate in the slightest, unfortunately.

Works with the Escapes watchface here.

The Moto 360 does not have a magnetometer. It will rotate based on the accelerometer, but not point north.
Edit:
Need to correct myself! Since 5.0.2 the compass is working fine when using watchmaker faces... (Still not working on Ranger watchface)
Tested it for two days, always points north now. Still can't believe it, the specs don't mention it, but watchmaker proofed me wrong.

Compass function constantly stops working
With the latest update, I have the ability to use a compass that is made in Watch maker. However, it will only work for a short time before it stops and just points up. When it DOES work, it definitly points north with the latest OS update.
To fix, i have to restart my watch. Only issue with that, other than the annoyance of restarting the watch, is that the step count resets to zero.

I've tried a couple of compass apps which complained that Moto 360 (I'm on 5.1.1) doesn't have one. Anybody know of an app (not a watch face) that does work on the 360?

Can we connect the moto 360 to a WiFi network apart from bluetooth? If not, is that a hardware drawback or a softwares? I see some amazing features like remote clicking of pictures like in Asus zenwatch and the compass feature in LG G watch R. Since moto 360 has gyro is it possible to get the compass functionality (which can be later included into a watchface)?

the lg watch r has it and works to perfection. according to a postthere, it has a compass ic.

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problem with the movement sensor

I have problems with the accelerometer, because it´s not registering my steps, and even it doesn´t turn on, with my hand movement, the last time I saw it working properly, was before I install an app called "snap clap", I want to know if someone is having a similar issue.
Hi, as a developer of snap Clap wear app I can assure you, no sensors access in there. There is only bluetooth connection used
Snap clap is a very good app!! congratulations, I am using it without problems, but maybe I clapped too much! lol!!, Im sure is a hardware problem, now I´m getting steps counting without issue, but I can´t see the time with my hand movement. Probably the last update modify those values, and with my case there is an issue with that sensor, hope the Wear 2.0 solve that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmIAkTVaIC4

Received mine today

The software seems a bit flaky. New SMS does not display message details......still investigating
I eventually managed to download music tracks to the device and they played okay over bluetooth headphones. Not tried the GPS yet
Any questions I will try and answer
tmn0004676 said:
The software seems a bit flaky. New SMS does not display message details......still investigating
I eventually managed to download music tracks to the device and they played okay over bluetooth headphones. Not tried the GPS yet
Any questions I will try and answer
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Can you run my tracks via the start on the phone (offline mode) that used watch GPS and let me know if the music stutters? It seems to happen when bluetooth and internal GPS are enabled...im on 2nd device and same issue
download my tracks to phone, then go to apps on watch and run that app, then start music via watch memory
gs05 said:
Can you run my tracks via the start on the phone (offline mode) that used watch GPS and let me know if the music stutters? It seems to happen when bluetooth and internal GPS are enabled...im on 2nd device and same issue
download my tracks to phone, then go to apps on watch and run that app, then start music via watch memory
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please could you provide more detailed instructions
thanks
tmn0004676 said:
please could you provide more detailed instructions
thanks
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Sure...
Download My tracks (google) from play store. Get google music (if not already) and download some songs to your watch...do this by downloading to your phone first (offline) and then selecting in music options to download to android wear. Let a few songs load over.
Go outside. Go to the watch (make sure far from phone and disconnected). Start tracks with the start menu. Then do start on that
Now do play music from the same menu as start.
Go for a jog
OP's can help us all (please; this is a suggestion not a criticism) by listing what they are pairing with :good:
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I've had mine since Friday. Have you found any way use the running apps without the phone and use the watch gps? I bought this to replace my motoactiv but stava and runtastic won't allow me to start a run without being connected to the phone.
oddoreven said:
I've had mine since Friday. Have you found any way use the running apps without the phone and use the watch gps? I bought this to replace my motoactiv but stava and runtastic won't allow me to start a run without being connected to the phone.
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I have the same problem.. Nothing uses the watch GPS that I have found. Also is your screen yellow when it should be white. Mine is terrible.
runningwarrior08 said:
I have the same problem.. Nothing uses the watch GPS that I have found. Also is your screen yellow when it should be white. Mine is terrible.
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Download google tracks to your phone.
It will work in offline mode and give you distance and time via the watch GPS. Start it via the start menu and select tracks. The running apps are still through the phone currently.
gs05 said:
Download google tracks to your phone.
It will work in offline mode and give you distance and time via the watch GPS. Start it via the start menu and select tracks. The running apps are still through the phone currently.
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It didn't work for me yesterday when I tried during my run. Started it from the watch when I was not with my phone and the distance just stayed at 0
runningwarrior08 said:
It didn't work for me yesterday when I tried during my run. Started it from the watch when I was not with my phone and the distance just stayed at 0
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Give it a minute and you should see a little location google stake on the top left. It worked for me and i could see my entire mapped run via tracks afterwards. Make you start it, give it a minute and then try. It took mine about .15 of a mile to kick in
You can also go into GPS test under Settings- Developer options - manufacturer - GPS and press start to check time to first fix.
runningwarrior08 said:
I have the same problem.. Nothing uses the watch GPS that I have found. Also is your screen yellow when it should be white. Mine is terrible.
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I just got mine today. The screen definitly has a yellow tint to it. Can othere people please test this?
Did you replace it?
bookat said:
I just got mine today. The screen definitly has a yellow tint to it. Can othere people please test this?
Did you replace it?
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I don't think this is a defect. It is the trade-off for the tft tech making it fully daylight readable. Mine also has this. I'm torn on the trade-off, on the one hand, it is leagues better than even the moto 360 for reading in direct sunlight (it's almost like a mirasol display), but on the other, the 360's screen was very pretty. I'm leaning towards being "ok" with it, since I don't think I'm going to watch any movies on my wrist, but I will probably want to deal with notifications in unideal lighting, but it is definitely an adjustment.
I don't mind the yellow. Its actually not that bad and the screen is definitely visible in the daylight. I am really liking this watch alongside with my Microsoft Band.
legend921 said:
I don't mind the yellow. Its actually not that bad and the screen is definitely visible in the daylight. I am really liking this watch alongside with my Microsoft Band.
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How is the health tracking on the band? This watch has some great features, but none of the android wear watches do true health tracking very well yet, and even if it had a heart rate monitor, I've been unimpressed with the ones on the 360 and gear live, so I've been thinking about adding something purely for the health side of things.
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How is the health tracking on the band? This watch has some great features, but none of the android wear watches do true health tracking very well yet, and even if it had a heart rate monitor, I've been unimpressed with the ones on the 360 and gear live, so I've been thinking about adding something purely for the health side of things.
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The band is great. Its not big and it definitely doe fitness better than the Android Wear. The 24/7 heart rate tracker gives you a better count on how many calories burned, and the only feature that you lose when not using the Windows Phone is Cortana. When I was using it on the 5K run that I had participated with the GPS on, the band was able to tell me where I was running fast and where I had slowed down and so fourth and it was very accurate along side the path that I was running on. The 5K reported that the run was 3.2 miles which was pretty dead on to the 5K. The pedometer is more accurate too compared to the android wear since mine will count steps even if I am pushing a shopping cart so all in all I really like the band for fitness with smartwatch duties as secondary. I can read everything just fine from the notifications when not using the Smartwatch 3, but at least now I can let the band do all my fitness stuff when I go on the run and have the Sony Smartwatch stream my music for me to run with. That way I don't have to carry the phone.
Thanks for confirming this. I guess there is no perfect solution out there for smart watches yet. The screen does bother me some times specially because i had the moto 360 and returned it. but that watch had its own set of problems.
guess i will be keeping this.
From the patent at http://www.google.com/patents/US8208104
It states "a change in chromaticity caused by wavelength dispersion due to the λ/4 plate."
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As for on device tracking I hope that Sony and others will include support for just released google fit api on device.
My screen shows whites correctly. I don't see the yellowish problem here.
My screen is unimpressive (pale, low contrast) but OK. A colour tinge is normal for a transflective display, and it depends on the colour of the light you shine on it...the nice thing is that I can read it without the backlight in most situations.
What bothers me is, that some things that work on Google Now on my phone don't work via Wear Voice input. Setting alarms for example. It works fine on my phone, but not on my SW3. Why? On the Watch it always understands, but then just throws up a web search card...
Also, the "wrist flick" to activate the display is a bit weird. It works about 1 time out of ten, but if I just move my arm around randomly, then I often trigger the backlight. That's also a bit weird. I'm trying to get used to it. With my Pebble, I mostly just glanced at the watch without moving it in front of my eyes. That worked fine. I had actually turned off the auto-backlight on Pebble and would probably do the same on the SW3 if I could.
The most annoying thing is the weak vibration of the SW3. With my Pebble, I feel (and hear) the vibrating alert, with the SW3 I miss it frequently even when I'm not moving around. That's unacceptable and might be the main reason for sending it back. I haven't decided yet.
Is there a way to increase the vibration intensity and length? That would be cool.
And one last thing, not directly related to the SW3...On my Pebble I get notifications for every email in my Gmail account, apart from SPAM. With Android Wear, I think not all labels are signalled. How do I change that? I tried to set it up in Gmail, but I think I still don't get all emails announced on the SW...

Wifi useage

Hi all,
I am trying to work what smartwatch to buy and keep being drawn towards the smartwatch 3 because of its built in wifi. Now I know that there isn't support for it yet but has anyone heard any rumours or have a good guess as to what they think it might be used for?? Googling this has yet to turn up anything useful for this.
Personaly I would like to use the wifi to still get notification when I am at work when I am connected to the wifi but dont have my phone with me. It would also be really cool to have the things like my keep enteries and calander appointments stored locally on the watch and notifications for them would still trigger without having my phone with me.
Personally I would prefer a round smartwatch however this sort of functionalility is way more useful for me and the fact it has GPS and uses USB is a big plus for me.
Thanks in advance for all your responses.
James
Smartphone 3, WiFi I have no use for it.
Android Wear smartwatches pull notifications from the smartphone using bluetooth I really do not know what they have in mind by including WiFi
Do not forget the Smartwatch 3 screen can be set to ambient mode on always. You can read comfortably notification in direct sun light.
I was also looking at Moto 360, LG G Watch R and ZenWatch. Smartwatch 3 is not the best looking but I end up getting it because of the GPS, NFC, micro USB and being able to swim with it (IP68).

Does GPS work yet?

Hey guys,
So Ive recently aquired and about to return if its defective, my smartwatch 3. I was certain it can do a standalone GPS, but now im wondering if it cant due to software limitations that hopefuly be patched, or is it actually just a lemon?
Ive installed Wear GPS and it finds 0/0 sattelites, even when the phone GPS is on and nearby the watch, in which case all running apps has GPS on the watch too, as long as the phone's in range..
In the Watch Settings I turned on GPS. makes no difference if its off or on actually, still works if the phone's nearby.
any suggestions?
GPS is working, try Ghostracer or Endomondo. They both work well but Ghostracer is loaded with features.
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Just clarifying the GPS should function even when disconnected from the phone, correct? Thanks. Prone.
Yes it works. connected or disconnected from the phone.
but the GPS function itself is still buggy,
more information about the gps issue - find here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/help/erratic-gps-t3088179
Erratic is better than statically dead. Flat line 0 GPS signal as soon as phone is disconnected.. RMA or wait for patch? If I understand than even if I get replacement the GPS function is useless at this stage...? Thanks, Prone
RMA.
because the feature itself works normally. (erratic not dead)
I'll take you guys word's for it then.. Cause sony is either totally lying or totally stupid:
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support.
We are sorry to hear you are experiencing issues with the GPS location services on your SmartWatch 3.
With regards to your inquiry, when your SmartWatch 3 is disconnected from your phone or tablet, you can still use some basic features. Since voice commands no longer work after disconnection, you must tap the screen to navigate your SmartWatch 3 and confirm actions.
In standalone mode, you can still do the following:
•View the time and date.
•Set an alarm.
•Use the stopwatch.
•Use the timer.
•View your agenda for the current day.
•Listen to music saved on your SmartWatch 3 with a connected Bluetooth® headset.
•Keep a record of your outdoor activities.
•View your step count.
•Change the watch face.
•Turn Airplane mode on or off.
Note! Some of the features described above require the download and installation of the relevant applications, for example, a music player app or a fitness training app.
Therefore, unfortunately you cannot use the GPS function when your SmartWatch 3 is disconnected from your phone.
If you are experiencing issues with GPS location, check if the location is turned on on your SmartWatch 3.
To turn on location on SmartWatch 3:
1.Tap the home screen, then swipe upwards.
2.Find and tap Settings > Location.
3.If the location is set to Off, press Location. Then press the green circle with “check” mark to enable Location.
Tips to improve the GPS signal when using SmartWatch 3:
•Remove the main unit from the wrist band and clean away any moisture that has built up around the unit or the wrist band to improve the GPS signal.
•Wear your SmartWatch 3 on the outside of your wrist so that your SmartWatch 3 has the best line of sight with GPS satellites.
•Make sure you have a clear and unobstructed view of the sky. For example, while wearing your SmartWatch 3, make sure that your view is not blocked by trees or tall buildings.
•Before you start to move around, stand still to allow your SmartWatch 3 to pick up a signal from the relevant GPS satellites.
Furthermore, due to the fact that Sony SmartWatch 3 was not officially released on the Israeli market, our official service center in Israel unfortunately cannot provide you with service of the device. We suggest you to contact the original seller for more information.
Should you require any further assistance please contact us again via email at [email protected]. For more information on our products, services and support please visit www.sonymobile.com.
Please be aware that if you do not respond within 7 days of this email your query will be automatically closed. Any further communications will not reach our support and a new query will need to be raised.
Kind Regards,
Vita Stankovic
Sony Xperia Support
Whos bull****ting here? Either way im gunna bother and have no SW3 for a while till it gets RMA'd I suppose.. i actually hoped this is a patch thing.
Sony is totally stupid. I use GhostRacer every day standalone, no problems (and the GPS honestly tracks just fine). Its true that there aren't any real stock apps that use it, but it works offline all the same..
Hi
I have exactly the same problem
Here we are, over a year later, and I'm still having this same problem. Has anyone figured anything out with this? I bought my SW3 refurbished, and didn't realize there was a problem with it until the 30 limited warranty expired. I don't really know what I can do at this point. It's really frustrating, as it seems like too many people have this issue for it to just be a fluke.

Gyroscope/Accelerometer Flipped?

Hey Guys,
Just wanted to see if anyone else has noticed that when viewing Google Maps on the watch, the map rotates in the opposite (incorrect) direction as you rotate? For example, if you are looking "North" and you turn left, the map should rotate clockwise to point you "West". What I'm seeing is the exact opposite. Another test I performed was to install an app called Bearing and of course it showed the same behavior as Maps. If I was looking "North" and started rotating left, the compass would spin counter-clockwise and "East" would come up. I know that the exact direction will not be correct due to a lack of a magnetometer but rotation should still be correct. Anyone else see this?
Thanks!
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MuF123 said:
I think this is wrong assumption and that you can't really get what you want without compass.
Any app that relies on magnetic coordinates should not move at all on hwatch...
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Well, they do move smoothly and relatively accurately just in the opposite direction so they must allow for gyro/accelerometer input. Either that or I have a magic watch. Also, after reporting it, Huawei is looking into the issue. I'm just curious if others can try it on their watches and report direction of spin....
Thanks!
Same here, i think it's a bug of map due to the lack of compas.
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Same here, i think it's a bug of map due to the lack of compas.
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Thanks for checking, suitengu! I agree with your theory. Some software locks position or refuses to install, as it should, due to the lack of a compass. Apparently not Maps or Bearing.
I've investigated a little more. At launch maps take the phone's compass as reference, after it uses watch's gyro to turns the map.
The gyro are inverced in Gmaps, don't know if it's google of huawei fault.
Interesting to see more people notice this issue, as I already reported it in January.
here
It may well be that the Maps app uses mainly magnetic compass for the rotation and the gyros are used to filter/smoothen the rotation of the map. Not having the compass inputs messes up the algorithm...
Would like to know if other AW watches that do have compass experience different behaviour.
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Interesting to see more people notice this issue, as I already reported it in January.
here
It may well be that the Maps app uses mainly magnetic compass for the rotation and the gyros are used to filter/smoothen the rotation of the map. Not having the compass inputs messes up the algorithm...
Would like to know if other AW watches that do have compass experience different behaviour.
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On the LG G Watch R it's perfectly fine. Map rotating in the right direction only with the gyro sensor of the watch. I think we need to wait till Huawei fixes this.

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