Latest Google Maps requires "high accuracy" Location on GTP! - Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 Q&A, Help & Trouble

Hey folks,
The latest version of Google Maps has had an impact on the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4. Basically, you need to set Location to "high accuracy" to get a location fix! Whereas before you could use "power saving" (use wi-fi only to find location) and Google Maps would provide a location fix.
This is really, really horrible. I am not going to turn on my GPS chip when my tablet spends its whole day inside my house. But I still would like a location fix to be provided to Google Maps so I can do things like, easily find directions from "current location" to somewhere else, etc.
There is already some people complaining about this issue on Google forum, please add to it to give this issue further attention:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/maps/LCAfggk7nPY/qOQVz7Ac2BMJ

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Hello Guys,
I have a really annoying problem.
When I'm at home Google continuous switch between my real position (Home) and another place in Italy (Pesaro) (I''ve never been to Pesaro).
I have at home My Nest thermostat and Philips HUE and at least 10 times during the evening the light will be switched off because it sense that I'm not at home (Wrongly).
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From your post I'm assuming that you've checked your home and work locations and roamed around all the location related bits of your Google account ( https://accounts.google.com/ServiceLogin )
peterk-1 said:
It looks like Google Maps has got a wrong default location and this looks to be an issue that has arisen from 2013 when Google stopped users changing their default location. The only test I can think of is to download offline maps for an area round your home and the area around Pesaro and then with "phone", wifi and gps switched off open Maps and see which map opens - It may not work since the phone may well hold its last recorded location for faster location fixing..
From your post I'm assuming that you've checked your home and work locations and roamed around all the location related bits of your Google account ( https://accounts.google.com/ServiceLogin )
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The account is all secure.
I have already downloaded the Offline Home maps from google.
Never tried do download also the Pesaro one.
I try checking about default location.
See this thread (started 12 aug 2015 and still active today!) https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/maps/NfH94fJ6KUU;context-place=forum/maps. The issue appears to be that Google's wifi location database records the MAC address of your router as being in Pesaro. An accurate GPS position overrides the wifi location but "sleeping" causes the wifi location to be restored. Claimed fix method in earlier posts but summarized in this post https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/maps/NfH94fJ6KUU/JtidQZ_WCAAJ

Lineage 17 GPS question

Unlike many modern versions of Android, I can find no three-tiered setting for GPS accuracy. I'm looking to set it to "Device Only" but it's either off or on, with a few additional location options but nothing more for GPS.
I'm using lineage 17, the second to last update, on a Samsung Tab 4 and I just want to restrict the device to the system GPS app GPS I've set (but it keeps drifting).
neocortex08 said:
Unlike many modern versions of Android, I can find no three-tiered setting for GPS accuracy. I'm looking to set it to "Device Only" but it's either off or on, with a few additional location options but nothing more for GPS.
I'm using lineage 17, the second to last update, on a Samsung Tab 4 and I just want to restrict the device to the system GPS app GPS I've set (but it keeps drifting).
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I don't see any android 10 distro with the old settings (high precision/ device only/energy saving)
GApps installed?
kurtn said:
I don't see any android 10 distro with the old settings (high precision/ device only/energy saving)
GApps installed?
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Yes, Gapps installed and working well (version for Android 10, nano),but I'm not sure google settings would change what would be in the device system settings. I guess I'm just looking for some way to force that missing setting without having to resort to tin foil around the device.
neocortex08 said:
Yes, Gapps installed and working well (version for Android 10, nano),but I'm not sure google settings would change what would be in the device system settings. I guess I'm just looking for some way to force that missing setting without having to reset to tin foil around the device.
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No matter what settings you change, Google knows your location.
kurtn said:
No matter what settings you change, Google knows your location.
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I'm not tin-foil-hat-concerned with Google knowing my location; I'm referring to the systemized GPS app I installed to be able to determine the location I set. Which it can currently, and can usually continue to do when I can set the device to take GPS from "device only". In this case it shows me on the map "rubberbanding" between my actual location and the location I've set about 100 feet away. This is because the OS is allowing the device to try and locate its own location.
neocortex08 said:
I'm not tin-foil-hat-concerned with Google knowing my location; I'm referring to the systemized GPS app I installed to be able to determine the location I set. Which it can currently, and can usually continue to do when I can set the device to take GPS from "device only". In this case it shows me on the map "rubberbanding" between my actual location and the location I've set about 100 feet away. This is because the OS is allowing the device to try and locate its own location.
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Oh, location spoofing
https://f-droid.org/app/com.wesaphzt.privatelocation
GPS drains battery
With previous (before 17) it was possible to set the location service to be switched on, but only use cell data.
When I use the gps device it drains my battery much faster.
Therefore: How can I leave the location service on, but DO NOT USE the gps device in LOS 17 ????
Thanks in advance
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Chris56 said:
How can I leave the location service on, but DO NOT USE the gps device in LOS 17 ????
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+1
luckysoul777 said:
+1
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Do you try to spoof your location? And why? What location providers do you have? GApps?
I guess your reply refers to my question.
Maybe I was not clear.
With former LOS versions I was able to explicitly choose whether to use the (battery draining) gps receiver for my location or not.
I have several other sources of location information (gsm cell based and wifi based) usually with less accuracy. But I may prefer theses under certain circumstances because of less power consumption. I Don't use google but microg.
kurtn said:
Do you try to spoof your location? And why? What location providers do you have? GApps?
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No. I am not trying to spoof anything. I have an automation program called Tasker on my S4. When I was on stock Samsung ROM (5.0.1), I was able to use the "location mode" in Tasker to switch between high accuracy and battery save. If Tasker detected I was running Google Maps, it switched on high accuracy. If not, it switched over to battery save. From what I can tell, high accuracy used GPS + network and battery save used network only.
Now, I'm on LOS 17.1 and battery save would turn on GPS too. It seems the only way to not use GPS is to turn off location mode altogether. This makes me wonder what the differences are between Device Only and Battery Save modes. Since I cannot tell, I am assuming both modes are provided for backward compatibility to Tasker users but the underlining Android 10 doesn't differentiate them.
I am suspecting with Android 10, there are only 3 modes.
* GPS + network
* GPS
* OFF
Thus, if one needs the location service, GPS must be used.
I raised this question elsewhere. Some people actually told me that GPS doesn't consume much power if it's just turned on but not being used, e.g. by Google Maps. I have no way to verify if they are right.
luckysoul777 said:
No. I am not trying to spoof anything. I have an automation program called Tasker on my S4. When I was on stock Samsung ROM (5.0.1), I was able to use the "location mode" in Tasker to switch between high accuracy and battery save. If Tasker detected I was running Google Maps, it switched on high accuracy. If not, it switched over to battery save. From what I can tell, high accuracy used GPS + network and battery save used network only.
Now, I'm on LOS 17.1 and battery save would turn on GPS too. It seems the only way to not use GPS is to turn off location mode altogether. This makes me wonder what the differences are between Device Only and Battery Save modes. Since I cannot tell, I am assuming both modes are provided for backward compatibility to Tasker users but the underlining Android 10 doesn't differentiate them.
I am suspecting with Android 10, there are only 3 modes.
* GPS + network
* GPS
* OFF
Thus, if one needs the location service, GPS must be used.
I raised this question elsewhere. Some people actually told me that GPS doesn't consume much power if it's just turned on but not being used, e.g. by Google Maps. I have no way to verify if they are right.
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Network location is not part of lineageOS. You can add it with GApps or microG. Have you?
Enabling location does not power the satellite receivers continuously. It really needs battery. The job of your tasker script is done by android 10 automatically. If you suspected apps to drain battery with GPS, disable their location permission!
kurtn said:
Network location is not part of lineageOS. You can add it with GApps or microG. Have you?
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I'm using Gapps, the nano package. Do you know which one comes with network location? I can't tell because this comparison chart doesn't show it for any packages, https://github.com/opengapps/opengapps/wiki/Package-Comparison
kurtn said:
If you suspected apps to drain battery with GPS, disable their location permission!
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The reason I preferred to keep it on battery save instead of off completely in the old days was that if I ever lost my phone, I wanted to be able to track it. Now with Android 10's mandatory GPS for location service, if I want to disable abusive apps from requesting unnecessary location service, which app should I avoid disabling? Which app is giving out my phone's location if I am tracking it remotely?
Thank you
luckysoul777 said:
I'm using Gapps, the nano package. Do you know which one comes with network location? I can't tell because this comparison chart doesn't show it for any packages, https://github.com/opengapps/opengapps/wiki/Package-Comparison
The reason I preferred to keep it on battery save instead of off completely in the old days was that if I ever lost my phone, I wanted to be able to track it. Now with Android 10's mandatory GPS for location service, if I want to disable abusive apps from requesting unnecessary location service, which app should I avoid disabling? Which app is giving out my phone's location if I am tracking it remotely? Thank you
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I think the answer to both questions is Google play services. com.google.android.gms It's the mightiest app on your phone. I avoid installing it.
kurtn said:
I think the answer to both questions is Google play services. com.android.google.gms It's the mightiest app on your phone. I avoid installing it.
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I still see one drawback with very selectively granting apps location service. For example, I do want to grant Chrome location service to facilitate better search. If I'm indoor, wouldn't GPS without a clear view of the sky trying very hard to get a fix and thus burn more power than necessary? With that said, can High Accuracy (GPS + network) actually be more power efficient under Android 10 than Battery Save (GPS only)? This is assuming Chrome would give up on GPS when it can't get a fix and be happy with just network while Battery Save would keep trying to get a fix with GPS. Again, this is just my assumption.

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