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Anyone have a clue when the TP2 worldphone is due for Telus?
Also, will the front camera be included in the phone? I know in the past the vga cam was removed since CDMA did not support the dual use of phone and data at the same time, but the HSPA network under way (probably one of the reasons they are getting CDMA+HSPA antennas in this phone) it would make sens that they keep the front cam since HSPA supports video calls.
thanks.
just officially announced
Looks like the this week/next week predictions may actually be true.
yup, I kinda stopped posting here but there has been a lot going on with news about this. I also saw a forum posting (lost the link) from a telus employee saying that he got the SNAP dummy phones in today (July 14th).
I wonder what the exact specs are for the GSM antenna. Apparently it will have quad-band edge but no news on what bands the HSPA is going to be on (if at all...).
I know this is the snap and not the tp2, but it could give us an idea of what to expect. the full specs were just posted for the snap.
http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Telus+SNAP good news, full quad-band gsm and edge... now we just hope the tp2 will have hspa on top of that.
seems the telus version will also have a 3.5mm jack as well as geotaging automatic when taking pictures and dual band UMTS (900 and 2100) but no news on the telus HSPA bands yet (which is on the 1900 band)
2100 HSPA, no bellus HSPA for us
I have called 4 telus stores this week. 2 didn't know anything about the launch of the tp2? 1 said his manager played with one a short time ago at a conference and it was a sweet phone but had no idea when it would be available. The last store told me they have not mentioned anything about this phone at there meeting this week so she believed it isn't going to be here for a while yet as all new phones are discussed a couple of weeks before arival. In short it appears everyone knows that the tp2 is coming to telus except people who work at telus. Ha
Already listed at BestBuy Canada.
According to Bestbuy, here's the spec of the Telus TP2...
Product Details
Web Code ..... 10127335
Mfr. Part Number ..... 10127335
Backlit Keypad ..... No
Calculator ..... Yes
Calendar ..... Yes
Carrier ..... Telus
Connection Port(s) ..... USB, 3.5 mm
CPU Speed ..... 800/1900 MHz
Customizable Ringtones ..... Built-In & Downloadable
Display Type ..... LCD Touchscreen
Expansion Slots ..... microSD
Flash Upgradeable ..... Yes
Games ..... Yes
Handsfree Speakerphone ..... Yes
Included In Box ..... Battery,Charger,USB Cable,Headset,Manual
Keyboard Type ..... Slide-Out QWERTY
Keypad Lock ..... Yes
Memory Size (RAM) ..... 512MB
Modem Type ..... Built-In
MP3 Capable ..... Yes
Number of Display Lines ..... 5
Number of Modes ..... CDMA (800; 1900 MHz) EVDO Rev A/0 (no HSPA )
Operating System ..... Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Operating System Compatibility ..... Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Phone Book Capacity ..... 1000 Entries
Product Dimensions ..... 5.62(W) x 11.6(H) x 1.67(D) cm
Product Warranty ..... 1 Year
Product Weight ..... 178.5 g
Resolution ..... 480 x 800
ROM Size ..... 288MB
Spreadsheet ..... Yes
Standby Time ..... 750 Hours
Stylus Entry ..... Yes
Supports Caller ID ..... Yes
Talk Time ..... Up to 390 Minutes
Voice Recording ..... Yes
Web Browser ..... Yes
Word Processor ..... Yes
I've just noticed that according to Bestbuy, TELUS HTC TP2 doesn't have GPS antenna ... I don't think we should trust this website
And it seems they've gotten a few things on best buy
they switched the rom and ram sizes
they put the cdma 3G speeds as cpu speed, and no mention of gsm
1000 limit for phone book entires
and the number of display lines is 5
and no mention of the camera in the specifications but it is mentioned in the overview and they mention it has a flash...
got to love product descriptions at times.
solsearch said:
And it seems they've gotten a few things on best buy
they switched the rom and ram sizes
they put the cdma 3G speeds as cpu speed, and no mention of gsm
1000 limit for phone book entires
and the number of display lines is 5
and no mention of the camera in the specifications but it is mentioned in the overview and they mention it has a flash...
got to love product descriptions at times.
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I didn't even notice those mistakes ... Anyway, I wish the GPS will be unlocked. It was locked for the Telus touch pro (1)
Well, on the Telus coming soon page they have this for the touch pro2
Available services*
* Email
* TELUS Navigator
* TELUS Portal by Pocket Express®
* TELUS mobile TV™
* Wireless web
So the gps won't be hidden like in some phones. Though I guess if they were really greedy and mean spirited they could make it only visible/available to the Telus navigator, but that seems like it'd be truly excessive.
oh no, what would we ever do? (say the people on the XDA forum; best place to get custom roms )
but ya I agree with hoping its unlocked out of the box. I think that bestbuy employee should be fired. we should demand that the specifications be met lol
I went into telus after work today to see if they had a TP2 in stock or at least tell me when they would have one. The sale girls didn't know anything about the phone but see did search to see if any where in transit, NO and then how many where in warehouse, NONE.
She said that if they got the phone before Telus actually gets it, that it would be the first time Best Buy ever got a phone before the carrier. ( don't know if that is true but it make sense )
Still waiting, I'm hoping this thing comes out in Canada before the firestone comes out in Europe so I won't second guess my choice.
512 RAM'd be smashing, but 288 for rom'd suck
800 and 1900mhz for cpu would be amazing (horrible battery life)
but if you wanted to fire anybody, it should be for the stretched picture of the TP2. It looks SQUARE!!!!!!
And firehound. Don't second guess yourself. There's always something better round the corner. Does the TP2 suit your current needs? That's the issue at hand. Sure, the Cortex A8 and A9 and Tegra phones will be capable of great stuff... but how long before good games taking advantage of those features and that can be properly played on a cell come out? For example, that zombie augmented reality game for a tegra device looks absolutely brilliant but I think it'd only be fun if it was multiplayer in my opinion (I'd feel a right fool wandering around a table by myself or while others watched for any prolonged period of time), and multi-player's gonna take a while. Same with connectors and stuff. After all, how long has it taken HTC to imlement 3.5mm as a standard? And who knows if the Snapdragon chips will have the same driver issues as the current gen (yes, they've been observed to be really snappy, but running the current software, not software trying to truly take advantage of them).
Sorry to be dense ...
Is the Telus TP2 CDMA or GSM ? I've seen conflicting info...
Basically, I'm trying to decide where to purchase a TP2 from ...
I live in the US and I'm an AT&T subscriber, but hate with they did with the 'FUZE" keyboard...and wonder if they will screw up the TP2.
I've seen the T-Mobile version, and I'm not a fan of the color ... but I could live with that.
I'm tempted to get the European version ... but would like to use 3G in the US.
Telus ? It looks fairly untampered with.
---Rob
Telus is a CDMA World Phone.
The way I see it, it's primarly a CDMA phone with a SIM card that allow you to roam on GSM network.
Now the question is which band will it support. Nothing official yet so it may not support the 850/1900mhz 3G-HSDPA requierd for 3G+ speeds on ATT
Well looook at that.
Specs, price and etc are official!
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/QC/htc_touchpro2_t7379/index.shtml
Notice the UMTS/HSDPA is only 2100mhz. So no luck for 3G/HSDPA on ATT. I believe this would work on T-Mobile network.
3G EVDO Rev A (800/1900 MHz), UMTS/HSPA (2100 MHz), GSM/ EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
I'm surprised that they didn't include the Telus 3G bands. Oh well...
I had question on 3G network bands. I know Tmobile HTC TP2 has 1700 and 2100 UMTS for 3G coverage which is not compatible with AT&T 3G network.
Is there any way to make it compatible with AT&T 3G network? By upgrading ROM? By making some hardware changes -> How and Who would do it?
Thanks for your time. Thanks.
not possible at this time
i think if you could force hardware to work at frequencies it wasnt built to would have people buying alot less branded and locked phones.
No, the device itself is technically able to receive these frequencies, but the real problem lies with the antenna. Olipro once said he forced the frequencies on one of his devices by somehow modifying the SPL or radio (something like that, anyway), but he didn't receive any more frequencies than he did before, because the problem is with the antenna. The antenna cannot receive these frequencies, so your device is stuck with T-Mobile's 3G frequencies.
Guys, its the same reason as with the Tilt/HTC Kaiser operating on T-Mobile (although I think it was a diffrent piece of hardware. I remember a website briefly had a hardware mod that was capable, but ultimately the parts were as much as the phone....screw that
Does this apply to the EDGE network also? I recently upgraded from my AT&T FUZE to The T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 for the larger screen. I was disappointed that I lost access to AT&T HSDPA/HSUPA network but after reading this post I understood.
But the phone says I’m connected to EDGE but my average speed is 36K, equivalent to GPRS. On my previous FUZE with 3G disable & HTC 620, even a few dumb phones, the EDGE speed was always 200K+.
I don’t think is related to my location, I normally get great connection at home and at work and both locations same speed. I don’t think it is the ROM, I’ve tried a few with the same result, I’m currently using the latest Energy ROM Phoenix.
Edge & GPRS
No, Edge and GPRS are both quad band so if your device will connect to one, it will connect to the other when the signal is available. Only 3G is typically dual band. The Tilt2 picks up 3G on 850/1900/2100MHz so it has one crossover frequency with TMO, but I don't know anyone that has tried picking up 3G on TMO with a Tilt2
No, there are no limits on EDGE frequencies, as all the Rhodium variants are quad band GSM and EDGE capable, and they all support the same GSM/EDGE frequencies. It's only the HSPA frequencies that are different across different Rhodium variants, because the frequencies are so fragmented with different carriers and in different countries.
Thanks for the info.
It's amazing we put a man on the moon(over 30 years ago!) and have made so many technological feats but this we can not do...
If the phone was built one way, it's gonna stay that way.
I don't think there has been a single person in the existence of the earth that has taken apart one of these devices and replaces the radio.
Please prove me wrong.
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It's amazing we put a man on the moon(over 30 years ago!) and have made so many technological feats but this we can not do...
If the phone was built one way, it's gonna stay that way.
I don't think there has been a single person in the existence of the earth that has taken apart one of these devices and replaces the radio.
Please prove me wrong.
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It is not that it can't be done, it is just not worth your time to do it. You would be better off selling your TP2 version and getting one the works with your bands.
Thanks for all the information
As I understand to accomplish the thing that I intend to do would need total hardware replacement.
However I wonder if there are any techniques and/or ways to enhance download/upload speed with EDGE? The current EDGE speed on AT&T is very slow. I believe T-Mobile EDGE speed (I used Blackberry Pearl 8100 on T-Mobile earlier) was comparable to 3G speed on AT&T (I have Blackberry Bold 9700 from Office on AT&T). Why EDGE on AT&T is very slow?
Am I doing something wrong with communication settings? I'm using "wap.cingular" as my APN (Access Point Name).
Thanks again for all your valuable inputs.
juiceppc said:
It's amazing we put a man on the moon(over 30 years ago!) and have made so many technological feats but this we can not do...
If the phone was built one way, it's gonna stay that way.
I don't think there has been a single person in the existence of the earth that has taken apart one of these devices and replaces the radio.
Please prove me wrong.
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can you put yourself on the moon? its not that easy. you can remove the radio and corresponding internals. but you have to remove it from a working device thats already capable of those frequencies. and then why not just use that phone? its so pointless.
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As I understand to accomplish the thing that I intend to do would need total hardware replacement.
However I wonder if there are any techniques and/or ways to enhance download/upload speed with EDGE? The current EDGE speed on AT&T is very slow. I believe T-Mobile EDGE speed (I used Blackberry Pearl 8100 on T-Mobile earlier) was comparable to 3G speed on AT&T (I have Blackberry Bold 9700 from Office on AT&T). Why EDGE on AT&T is very slow?
Am I doing something wrong with communication settings? I'm using "wap.cingular" as my APN (Access Point Name).
Thanks again for all your valuable inputs.
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Try a different radio, I'm using 4.49.25.88 and my speed increased from 37K to 102K, still sucks but better. I also read on the here that switching GPRS authentication form PAP to CHAP may help also. The switch didn't work for me. I know I can get up to 200K so I will keep trying tweaks.
4.49.25.88 ? Where do I put this in Connection Settings?
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4.49.25.88 ? Where do I put this in Connection Settings?
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It's not a connection setting, it's a whole new package of code for the radios in your phone (phone, EDGE, 3G, bluetooth, wifi), and is flashed to your phone just like a full new ROM (but you can keep whatever ROM you're currently using, even if it's stock).
Pending a test I'm trying to run here, this may also help with the EDGE vs voice issue you've posted the other thread about...I think a different radio might help you with that as well.
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You can find radios in the ROM section.
I apologize, I feel like we're hijacking this thread. But here's a pic of my current speed using mobile speed test. Must better than it was before.
New Radio didnt help
I flashed Hard SPL and then 4.49.25.88 radio on Tmobile HTC Touch Pro 2 (with WM 6.5 official ROM).
I didn't increase the internet (download/upload) speed. With earlier Radio, the speed topped at 76 k bits per second, lowest at 19 k bits per second and averaging between 30 to 45 k bits per second. (I did about 10 to 15 tests using dslreports.com/mspeed)
With 4.49.25.88 radio, it never went above 40 k bits per second. Averaging between 19 to 25 k bits per second. Actually reduced speed compared to earlier radio.
I'm not sure what should I try next???? please help!!!
blueguy19 said:
I flashed Hard SPL and then 4.49.25.88 radio on Tmobile HTC Touch Pro 2 (with WM 6.5 official ROM).
I didn't increase the internet (download/upload) speed. With earlier Radio, the speed topped at 76 k bits per second, lowest at 19 k bits per second and averaging between 30 to 45 k bits per second. (I did about 10 to 15 tests using dslreports.com/mspeed)
With 4.49.25.88 radio, it never went above 40 k bits per second. Averaging between 19 to 25 k bits per second. Actually reduced speed compared to earlier radio.
I'm not sure what should I try next???? please help!!!
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Try .91, trust me you will find one that is perfect for your carrier and area.
I flashed Energy ROM with .88 radio, it did improve download speed. But still don't receive calls while using data.
Hey Guys I have a question...
I'm from Europe - Romania more specifically and I'd like to buy an EVO...Saw some good offers on Ebay ...but ...there's the sliding screen/light leeking issue...What if I buy a faulty device ? I'm not willing to spend over 500 $ on a bad phone - although at the moment, I Really Really want it and considering that I'm a student...it's a big investment for me...Is there a possibility to know what I'm buying ? What should I do ? Thanks
Are there any 4G networks in your area that run on the WiMax frequency supported by the Evo? If not, and you are just looking for a 4.3" Android device, the Motorola Droid X is launching stateside on June 23rd.
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Are there any 4G networks in your area that run on the WiMax frequency supported by the Evo? If not, and you are just looking for a 4.3" Android device, the Motorola Droid X is launching stateside on June 23rd.
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Well,no,we don't have 4g here,only 3 or 3.5 g...but it's ok...I'm not after the 4g feature,I just want the phone and by the way do you think it will work with a sim card ? cause we don't have CDMA here,just GSM...It would be nice if I could know where to buy an unlocked Evo that will last ) at least 2 or 3 years...I also bought a new Touch Pro 4 months ago and paid 400$ for it and I don't wanna make a bad investment in buying a useless phone.Know what I mean ?
Ultrasone said:
Well,no,we don't have 4g here,only 3 or 3.5 g...but it's ok...I'm not after the 4g feature,I just want the phone and by the way do you think it will work with a sim card ? cause we don't have CDMA here,just GSM...It would be nice if I could know where to buy an unlocked Evo that will last ) at least 2 or 3 years...I also bought a new Touch Pro 4 months ago and paid 400$ for it and I don't wanna make a bad investment in buying a useless phone.Know what I mean ?
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Evo doesn't have sim card slot on it.. so unlocked or locked.. there is no way you can use it there.. you are better of buying any phone offer by t-mobile or att, which are GSM.
Omg ...So..then the Evo is out of the way ...FU Sprint ! Thanks for sharing the non-gsm feature or otherwise I would of done a really bad deal...
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Omg ...So..then the Evo is out of the way ...FU Sprint ! Thanks for sharing the non-gsm feature or otherwise I would of done a really bad deal...
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Unfortunately, I don't think the Droid X has a SIM card either. Which I find strange... I was under the impression that all of Verizon's smartphones were going to be world phones after the Storm.
WiMAX (4g Network) in US, Australia, Canada, Russia, South Korea ....
work on 2.5 GHz. So all phone you see today on market where is so called wimax phones or 4g phones work on 2.5 GHz and can work in any of this regions.
In Europe there are also 4G networks for example in Romania (Radiocom has wimax network in Bulgaria Maxtelecom in Serbia VeratNet etc..) but all of that 4g networks are on 3.5 GHz not on 2.5 GHz. So it is not compatibile.
Desire HD?
It's a European 4.3" HTC Android phone. Has a aluminum unibody shell, a better CPU, a much better GPU, and 100% more RAM. I don't think it has a FFC but otherwise it's much better than the EVO. Hell, I wish it was on Sprint.
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Desire HD?
It's a European 4.3" HTC Android phone. Has a aluminum unibody shell, a better CPU, a much better GPU, and 100% more RAM. I don't think it has a FFC but otherwise it's much better than the EVO. Hell, I wish it was on Sprint.
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Desire HD is indeed very good phone. If I am on market today (in Europe) I would buy Desire HD or Nexus S they are both awesome phones and will work in Europe without problem.
Both of this phones are 3G/HDSPA/Edge phones and they are not WiMAX (4G phones). There are few WiMAX 4G phones today on market wich you can use in Australia/USA/Canada/Korea/Russia and not in Europe. The only difference is frequency for 4G 2.5 Ghz insted of 3.5 Ghz and that is very sad. In Spain there is Clearwire operator (this one from US) www.clearwire.es but they don't have same frequency for this 4G in Europe they work on 3.5 Ghz.
Couldn't find an answer for this question sorry. I am thinking of buying the Desire HD A9191 but I want to make sure I will get at least 3G here in San Diego on T-Mobile. Thanks in advance for some assistance.
Sorry but no. You'll only be able to manage EDGE. the sensation 4g is right around the corner I would suggest that.
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desire hd a9191 model quad band 3G
Actually I believe this specific desire HD will get 3g on tmous they claim the a9191 model to be quad band 3G not just quad band GSM... and also say works with all carriers T-Mobile is listed so I would imagine u *#*#4636#*#* and then hit menu select bands then T-Mobile US then the correct radio and or ril...T-Mobile EU is in list too... it may depend on where you are located, I'm in DC and I knew someone who got H 3G on euro milestone on T-Mobile using that method and that phone has the 900/2100mhz, I held a sensation today and it has less ram and is 100% plastic and the screen is narrower... I'm with thus Guy on an a9191 Desire HD with the full unibody aluminum housing.. the phone is so nice I went and got the att version unlocked so its an inspire 2G now and am rocking edge (the E is such an ugly site someone make a theme that replaces edge icon with 4G just to trick my mind lol) just cause its worth the trade offphone if u wondering why i think this device rockd u probly have only used on sense ui rom its all about great its the combo of a perfectly tuned CM7.1 with this amazing device... but yea trying to get some confirmed info also on the a9191 version ofcourse ill get it and it will end up working but then some **** like att will own T-Mobile then and the stupid inspire will get 3G/4G anyway... why is it that the phone u want never offered by your carrier... if someone can confirm this please do thanks
This model is not quadband 3g. T-Mobile USA runs on1700/2100 for 3g . This model uses 900/2100. So their is a chance you might be able to pick up 3g, but it depends what frequency they are using in your specific area. If they use 1700 in SD then your stuck on edge if they use 2100 then you'll get 3g.
But like I recommended the sensation 4g is right around the corner. With that your guaranteed 3g comparability plus a better screen, dual core
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I automatically shot down the quadband 3G stated on this a9191 model desire HD... but in several sited places to purchase the phone it clearly states quadband 3G not quadband GSM like everyother device... it also says worldwide 3G will work on any carrier...
The sesnsation is not a worthy replacement for this device... like I said above its all plastic yes its dual core but has less ram... ram is much more needed then a second core when the single is overclocked to 1.5ghz its stupid fast and will use half the battery that the sensation will... the screen is narrowed and stretched on sensation... I prefer the square brick style of the dhd... sensation may be out in a day or too but if not getting contract or upgrade price on it why bother if dhd a9191 will get hsdpa on tmous... sensation is $550 off contract dhd $400 to $550 and all the development is done for dhd already... no waiting for working perm root s-off and engineering bootloader... I know where I am in DC I've seen a euro 900/2100 milestone get hsdpa here... so I'm good even if it turns out to not be quad band 3G.. but have clearly read that this specific dhd is able to pull hsdpa from any carrier worldwide... its unbranded and sold as unlocked only by websites there is not carrier tied to this device.... yes in the past getting 3G in us and worldwide was not an option but think how long could that remain as a worldwide industry standard... there's phones listed comming out for T-Mobile that show both T-Mobile and att 3g bands on a single device... clearly as technology keeps up at its current rate its not hard to believe that this day may have finally come upon us with woldwide 3G... ofcourse there's no advertising for these devices as then carriers wouldn't be able to sell contracts.... think about the GSM evo 3D comming soon.... wtf is that all about and what good would it be if it didn't have this same technology that is supposedly wrapped up in this very similar desire HD of the specific a9191 part# no other phone on any of the sites selling that model say will get 3G worldwide on any carrier T-Mobile aswell as at&t and many others are listed... and I also knew someone that had a UK tmobile G1 and came to visit here in states and upon getting off plane he had edge connection.. so called T-Mobile and was told to switch to US 3G Band by dialing *#*#4636#*#* and he did this and his UK G1 dream connected on 3G... so if u like the inspire 4G, the Thunderbolt, desire HD, evo 4G or. 3D because of the physical appearance or heavy/ solid/metal feel then u will not like the 100% plastic htc sensation... yes that's a nice feature of sensation to be able to change housing as fast as removing batt cover so u will not need any protection as if u drop sensation and screw it up u will be able to buy new entire exterior housing for under $20 on eBay....the only thing giving the sensation any wieght is the battery and the thick contoured tempered digitizer glass... it is not a worthy substitute for a nand flashed HD2 that's been done properly... and the stock sense 3.0 with all apps killed on sensation gives only 113mb ram.. that cpus will not be able to make up for that serious lack of ram... it is not 768mb like dhd or tbolt it must be like 620mb cause its only displaying Max in 530mb range so once again the pre spec sheets lie or the ppl reviewing these devices are retarded and can't take a minute to download a simple app that displays the actual hardware specs... its ridiculous... this isn't rocket science anyone reviewing a device for a forum should have atleast 1/2 a brain to catch these hyped up inaccurate pre release guess specs... its bull**** u put 1gb ram in your PC it displays 1024mb ram so how come when they say we have 768mb ram on phone it actually shows 620mb wtf? Here's screen shot of my inspire 4G Max available ram... I used same method to check sensation and it shows 530mb so how do both devices have 768mb.... (yes its an HTC inspire despite the moto blur look) http://db.tt/KQWMtT7
Maybe I answered my own question on the ram discrepency says now in free memory widget maximum amount of mem for users applications... I'm gonna guess that the missing 148mb is dedicated entirely to the system rom and apps and is never displayed... still doesn't really make much sense though cause if 238mb is pre designated to system on htc sensation then what is using up over 400mb after closing all background apps with atk? Sense UI 3.0 has gotta be one of the heaviest stock roms ever... junk .....if u want **** to look like sense use cm7.1 and make it look like sense or blur whatever... no excuse or good reason at all to use any rom that is not vanilla or cm based as your just killing your own android experience that is ofcourse if its an option for your device.... HD2 CM7.1 runs 100 times better then sensation on sense 3.0 and gets about same download speeds....hd2 little slower on speed test... 6000kbps vs 7000kbps and now that rom manager supports HD2 that was last feature needed to be equal to an official android device... if u have T-Mobile and want a fully modable HTC 4.3" there's your device.... HTC HD2 with nand flashed CM7.1 even with less ram then sensation has 150mb more free avail then sensation with no Widgets on screens.,..
Mardsta or whatever u answered dude first with no u will only get edge period.. then after hearing what I had to say u have changed your answer to yes maybe depending on your area... so r u just pissing in the wind? Clearly u have not actually taken the a9191 Device and tried to get 3G on tmous with it... so ur just guessing away and passing it off as fact.... if you do not know the answer 100% for sure don't act like it as it only make finding the correct info that much harder...
I actually did read both your responses even though long winded. In part you were right about my first answer. I had forgotten that in some places tmo will use the 2100 frequencies. They tend to use the 1700. Simple mistake.
I have used this model in question in the Los Angeles area. Not once did I pick up 3g on att or T-Mobile.
As to the sensation I offered it as a suggestion. You may not like it " maybe the open will. So get off your high horse. The dual core is actually more effiicient and battery friendly. Its the beauty of progress.
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U r fulla **** u never tried with that model desire hd a9191
Wow, didn't mean to start such a pissing match guys. I ended up getting the Sensation and I love it. Who needs 3G, I now have 4G. This phone is amazing!
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My bro just scouped one up (a9191) on Craig's list NYC and previous owner said would get 3G in queens but not Manhattan... hopefully not fulla****... currently trying everything possible to get it to work in NJ right outside Manhattan.... well see what happens...
OK, since receiving my international One X a month ago, I've had the sneaking suspicion it isn't getting all the HSPA+ speed it otherwise could be. Today, I confirmed this.
Side by side with an LG 4X HD (P880), I compared data speeds between the two using the same APN settings (the "phone" APN), same network (AT&T), in the exact same location. I used the SpeedTest.net app around a half dozen times on each, and here are my results:
One X (int): 3.5-4.6Mbps down / 1-1.2Mbps up
4X HD: 7-10Mbps down / 1-1.3Mbps up
When I had the AT&T version of the One X (the S4 with LTE), HSPA+ speeds were in the same range as the 4X HD. Now that I have the international (Tegra 3) version, they seem capped at around 4.6Mbps (eg, like it's stuck on old HSPA 7.2). Thoughts? Suggestions? I'm really at a loss as to what's going on here.
I know the international One X is supposed to have HSPA+ 21Mbps, but it's clearly not getting it on AT&T.
If you want LTE speeds then you have to go for the One XL(snapdragon4) as the X (tegra3) does not support it
I dont think the international one x is HSPA+ compatible but only HSDPA complaint .So you wont get the full speeds on AT&T networks!
You can buy the HTC One XL from here:
http://www.mobi-city.co.uk/htc-one-xl-uk.html
It's unbranded so can use any SIM
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I dont think the international one x is HSPA+ compatible but only HSDPA complaint .So you wont get the full speeds on AT&T networks!
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What is the difference, exactly? The phone's specifications pretty clearly state it has a 21Mbps HSDPA modem. Why am I unable to access the full extent of the HSPA+ network, then?
Also, yes, to the other posters, I understand the One XL has LTE, this information does not in any way help me.
rdr0b11 said:
What is the difference, exactly? The phone's specifications pretty clearly state it has a 21Mbps HSDPA modem. Why am I unable to access the full extent of the HSPA+ network, then?
Also, yes, to the other posters, I understand the One XL has LTE, this information does not in any way help me.
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If you are so smart and looks like you are smarter then everyone here, why do you post questions here?
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muamers said:
If you want LTE speeds then you have to go for the One XL(snapdragon4) as the X (tegra3) does not support it
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He is talking about HSPA+ and not LTE.
I was wondering about this as well. I hadn't thoroughly tested it to be sure, but it always seems like I cap out around the upper 3s on my One X. I need to check it side by side with my Infuse in a place where I know there is good signal and my Infuse gets full HSPA+ speeds. The One X should be fully capable of getting full HSPA+ speeds from AT&T. I do seem to remember people posting speed tests of the international HOX on AT&T and getting 7 and 8 Mbps, so I always just assumed I didn't have good enough signal. What's the consensus from everyone else using an international HOX on AT&T?
AJerman said:
I was wondering about this as well. I hadn't thoroughly tested it to be sure, but it always seems like I cap out around the upper 3s on my One X. I need to check it side by side with my Infuse in a place where I know there is good signal and my Infuse gets full HSPA+ speeds. The One X should be fully capable of getting full HSPA+ speeds from AT&T. I do seem to remember people posting speed tests of the international HOX on AT&T and getting 7 and 8 Mbps, so I always just assumed I didn't have good enough signal. What's the consensus from everyone else using an international HOX on AT&T?
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I vary often get around 6mbps on my ATT One X. The HSPA+ network is vary inconstant for me. I have gotten over 9mbps but Like I said, 6mbps is more common and 3 is not unheard of