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[Q] Anyway to go back to 6.2 ?

I bought a new KF and it has 6.3 on it. I would like to root via BuritooRoot3 but I need 6.2 to run his app. Is there any way to take a stock 6.3 KF and get it back to a stock 6.2 ???
Thanks !

Thibor69 said:
I bought a new KF and it has 6.3 on it. I would like to root via BuritooRoot3 but I need 6.2 to run his app. Is there any way to take a stock 6.3 KF and get it back to a stock 6.2 ???
Thanks !
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Flash MoDaCo rom. It's a pre rooted stock with gapps and GFS included.

soupmagnet said:
Flash MoDaCo rom. It's a pre rooted stock with gapps and GFS included.
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DO you think this is the best way to go ?........ or should I go ahead with the only 6.3 root guide I have seen here on this site. (pooky900 guide or something sorry forgot his name) Or do you think it best to wait for a easier newer 6.3 rooter to show up ?? Just your thoughts .... I am not holding you to anything here :O)
Thanks

Thibor69 said:
DO you think this is the best way to go ?........ or should I go ahead with the only 6.3 root guide I have seen here on this site. (pooky900 guide or something sorry forgot his name) Or do you think it best to wait for a easier newer 6.3 rooter to show up ?? Just your thoughts .... I am not holding you to anything here :O)
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I've tried to explain much of this a couple of times now, so here's my final attempt...
The generally accepted procedure for rooting or installing a ROM:
1) Get to fastboot mode by utilizing either...
a) a factory cable
b) fbmode
2) Install recovery and custom bootloader
3) Either root by installing su and Superuser.apk or flash a custom ROM
To get back to 6.2, you will still have to do #1 & #2 and flash the 6.2 zip package like you would any other ROM. Amazon's software will not allow you to downgrade the software through stock so you can use the BurritoRoot exploit.
It's not likely for someone to come up with a newer/easier method for rooting 6.3 because...
a) It's pretty straightforward as it is
b) No one spends the time to do it when the old way works perfectly well
I've laid out the procedure in excruciating detail here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638452
I invite you to keep exploring easier ways to do this, so I can make the how-to above simpler and shorter, but I doubt you will find one. Good luck.

MoDaCo comes with 6.3 pre rooted along with gapps and Google Framework Services preinstalled. It is by far the easiest route to get a rooted stock because the work has already been done for you. All you have to do is flash it in recovery. (Assuming you have recovery installed of course)
Last time I heard, you still have to rename otacerts.zip to prevent any OTA updates screwing up everything but I'm not 100% on that. You should definitely look into it, though. People here are pretty good at staying on top of the latest updates and making flashable versions that won't undo everything you have so far (i.e. break root, uninstall recovery, etc.)
Pokey9000's rooting method is very effective and good if you want to learn but unnecessary IMO if you just want a rooted stock that works well. But I think you should definitely have fbmode on your device if you are using Windows. It could come in very handy when your drivers are being stupid.
It should be noted that I don't use stock and never have so I couldn't tell you much about the differences between MoDaCo and straight rooted, as in whether or not you can watch Prime Video with it, but there are plenty of stock users here that can help you sort it out.

Thibor69 said:
I bought a new KF and it has 6.3 on it. I would like to root via BuritooRoot3 but I need 6.2 to run his app. Is there any way to take a stock 6.3 KF and get it back to a stock 6.2 ???
Thanks !
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Kindle Fire Utility .95 works easily on 6.3 and while it's not BurritoRoot it is still a simple one click root utility with a lot of features to make the rooting process easy. Any particular reason you want Burrito?

soupmagnet said:
MoDaCo comes with 6.3 pre rooted along with gapps and Google Framework Services preinstalled. It is by far the easiest route to get a rooted stock because the work has already been done for you. All you have to do is flash it in recovery. (Assuming you have recovery installed of course)
Last time I heard, you still have to rename otacerts.zip to prevent any OTA updates screwing up everything but I'm not 100% on that. You should definitely look into it, though. People here are pretty good at staying on top of the latest updates and making flashable versions that won't undo everything you have so far (i.e. break root, uninstall recovery, etc.)
Pokey9000's rooting method is very effective and good if you want to learn but unnecessary IMO if you just want a rooted stock that works well. But I think you should definitely have fbmode on your device if you are using Windows. It could come in very handy when your drivers are being stupid.
It should be noted that I don't use stock and never have so I couldn't tell you much about the differences between MoDaCo and straight rooted, as in whether or not you can watch Prime Video with it, but there are plenty of stock users here that can help you sort it out.
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Just so everybody is on the same page and because I've done more rooting experiments the last few days than I care to admit.
Thibor69 said in another one of his threads that he wants to go to the Hellfire ROM. He's not interested in rooted stock, as far as I can tell. I agree though... I don't know why someone would take the time to root when MoDaCo seems to have done all the heavy lifting already. MoDaCo users also say that they can use some app (the name escapes me at the moment) that switches root on and off so they can watch videos.
pokey9000 doesn't have a rooting method. He has a fastboot exploit that is being used to root 6.3.x in a guide originally written by jcase. For 6.2.x, the rooting method was to use the BurritoRoot exploit to gain root and then get to fastboot mode by using idme. Amazon closed that hole so BurritoRoot can no longer be used for 6.3.x. Because jcase wasn't interested in building another root exploit, he published that guide as an alternative. The rooting method for 6.3.x is to use pokey9000's fbmode to get to fastboot and then install su privileges through TWRP... so, the process has been reversed... su -> fastboot for 6.2.x and now fastboot -> su for 6.3.x. So, you still have to use pokey9000's fbmode to get to fastboot and install a recovery (and bootloader) if you want to install any ROM.
Laquox said:
Kindle Fire Utility .95 works easily on 6.3 and while it's not BurritoRoot it is still a simple one click root utility with a lot of features to make the rooting process easy. Any particular reason you want Burrito?
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KFU is broken for whatever reason. It does get you su, but doesn't install the Superuser.apk... I don't know why and I'm not interested in debugging it. I'm not sure if sideloading Superuser.apk is the only thing that needs to be done after its "rooting" process, but it also installs the old versions of FFF and TWRP. That causes headaches all around for people that don't know their way around the bootloader and recovery. Otherwise, it's great!
KFU uses the same fbmode exploit that I've outlined in my guide, so the process is essentially identical. If you follow along with what I have there, you'll get all the current software and a working Superuser. If you use KFU, you can go back and reinstall all the stuff I mentioned above.

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Yeah, sorry about that. I was replying to his post and you beat me to the punch.
So, yeah...what kinfauns said

Thibor69 said:
I bought a new KF and it has 6.3 on it. I would like to root via BuritooRoot3 but I need 6.2 to run his app. Is there any way to take a stock 6.3 KF and get it back to a stock 6.2 ???
Thanks !
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You can use the Kindle Fire Utility 0.9.5
That's what I used to root my Kindle on 6.3
You just have to sideload the superuser.apk file though

kinfauns said:
Thibor69 said in another one of his threads that he wants to go to the Hellfire ROM. He's not interested in rooted stock, as far as I can tell.
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.....Yes that is what I want to do. I don't care about stock at all.
kinfauns said:
I agree though... I don't know why someone would take the time to root when MoDaCo seems to have done all the heavy lifting already. MoDaCo users also say that they can use some app (the name escapes me at the moment) that switches root on and off so they can watch videos.
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.....I hear what you are saying. Since I don't care about amazon video's, I see no reason to keep any aspects of stock at all .... so I guess I should skip MoDaCo's method also ... right ?
kinfauns said:
pokey9000 doesn't have a rooting method. He has a fastboot exploit that is being used to root 6.3.x in a guide originally written by jcase. Because jcase wasn't interested in building another root exploit, he published that guide as an alternative. The rooting method for 6.3.x is to use pokey9000's fbmode to get to fastboot and then install su privileges through TWRP... So, you still have to use pokey9000's fbmode to get to fastboot and install a recovery (and bootloader) if you want to install any ROM.
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.....Ok I understand. My question tho would be after I get to fastboot, you said to install a recovery and bootloader. Isn't TWRP the recovery method ? and which bootloader do I install ? And I do this all from within fastboot ? Also, what about FFF ? were does that come into play.
kinfauns said:
KFU uses the same fbmode exploit that I've outlined in my guide, so the process is essentially identical. If you follow along with what I have there, you'll get all the current software and a working Superuser. If you use KFU, you can go back and reinstall all the stuff I mentioned above.
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But you mentioned that KFU is broken ... so I guess I should just follow your method.
ONE LAST NOTE: Were are the drivers for Kindle Fire. I plug into PC (win7) and it doesn't find driver for kindle, but I still have access to the internal somehow ..
I am ready to start this process now .... but I want to be 100% sure I have a recovery image in case I soft-brick somehow.
You guys are great ... and thank you for helping me !!!
Cheers

Thibor69 said:
I hear what you are saying. Since I don't care about amazon video's, I see no reason to keep any aspects of stock at all .... so I guess I should skip MoDaCo's method also ... right ?
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Right, sort of. Any custom rom you flash will be rooted, but you need recovery to flash it.
.....Ok I understand. My question tho would be after I get to fastboot, you said to install a recovery and bootloader. Isn't TWRP the recovery method ? and which bootloader do I install ? And I do this all from within fastboot ? Also, what about FFF ? were does that come into play.
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TWRP is the preferred recovery. You can install the latest bootloader from within recovery... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25598837 ...and use fastboot to change to recovery bootmode
But you mentioned that KFU is broken ... so I guess I should just follow your method.
ONE LAST NOTE: Were are the drivers for Kindle Fire. I plug into PC (win7) and it doesn't find driver for kindle, but I still have access to the internal somehow ..
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The drivers for the KF can be found in the KFU folder along with an installation batch file.

Ok so to sum it up:
1) install kindle drivers, be sure PC see's Kindle and be sure adb is working
2) install TWRP
3) install latest bootloader (via link below)
4) then flash ROM ?
Cheers
soupmagnet said:
Right, sort of. Any custom rom you flash will be rooted, but you need recovery to flash it.
TWRP is the preferred recovery. You can install the latest bootloader from within recovery... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25598837 ...and use fastboot to change to recovery bootmode
The drivers for the KF can be found in the KFU folder along with an installation batch file.
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Sounds about right. There's a possibility you may need to fix your drivers again at some point in the process. If for some reason you can't get fastboot to connect:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625356
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747671&postcount=2

soupmagnet said:
Sounds about right. There's a possibility you may need to fix your drivers again at some point in the process. If for some reason you can't get fastboot to connect:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625356
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747671&postcount=2
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Many thanks !

How to root kfhd 8.9 with 8.4.1

I want to root my 8.9.
I have prepared everything to root it with the KFFirst Aide method. Before I want to start, my Kindle have updatet to 8.4.1.
Do the KFFFirstAide method work on 8.4.1?
I`have all the necessary data already downloaded and adb and fastboot works with option 16.
Can I start the root process without probelms with this method?
I want to install playsore and perhaps later twrp recovery.
Stefan

Rooting Fire HD 8.9 on 8.4.1
stefan1155 said:
I want to root my 8.9.
I have prepared everything to root it with the KFFirst Aide method. Before I want to start, my Kindle have updatet to 8.4.1.
Do the KFFFirstAide method work on 8.4.1?
I`have all the necessary data already downloaded and adb and fastboot works with option 16.
Can I start the root process without probelms with this method?
I want to install playsore and perhaps later twrp recovery.
Stefan
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I can't answer the question regarding the KFFirst Aide rooting utility but I can tell you that using the Bin4ry tool on 8.4.1 does work. I'm now looking for a method to install TWRP 2.4.4 in conjunction with 8.4.1. If you have any ideas let us know.

rebelduke said:
I can't answer the question regarding the KFFirst Aide rooting utility but I can tell you that using the Bin4ry tool on 8.4.1 does work. I'm now looking for a method to install TWRP 2.4.4 in conjunction with 8.4.1. If you have any ideas let us know.
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now it has been updatet to 8.4.3
i don`t know how to root...
shall i try bin4ry tool?
greets stefan

stefan1155 said:
now it has been updatet to 8.4.3
i don`t know how to root...
shall i try bin4ry tool?
greets stefan
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I also was OTA upgraded to 8.4.3. However, I did not lose root or the Google Play Store download/install capability. Bin4ry ver. 30 worked for me to root 8.4.1 and as I've stated, I did not lose root after being upgraded to 8.4.3.

Could someone please post the link to the thread on the latest Binary root method for Kindle Fire HD 8.9. Thanks

FraDiavalo said:
Could someone please post the link to the thread on the latest Binary root method for Kindle Fire HD 8.9. Thanks
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hi!
link to Binary
I strongly recommend soupkit, a Linux-live-system based installer. After installing it on a usb stick and booting from the stick you have everythink perfectly set up. I rooted with Soupkit in < 30 min!
Soupkit

For those rooting for the first time, I just rooted my KF HD 8.9 with the Root Many method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
The Qemu root method did not work for me. I did make sure to install and test the ADB drivers first. I rooted both 8.4.3 and 8.4.1. I was OTA updated right after rooting 8.4.1 I intend to prevent any more OTA updates with Droidwall.

I tried doing the SoupKit method but I'm having trouble with the ADB. Rootplus couldn't detect any ADB in the folder even though it's there. As for the Binary method, I tried doing it for several hours yesterday but I can't get it to work. What should be the first steps before I use the Binary root program? Sorry, but I'm really such a noob at this. My Kindle btw is 8.9 version 8.4.3

FraDiavalo said:
I tried doing the SoupKit method but I'm having trouble with the ADB. Rootplus couldn't detect any ADB in the folder even though it's there. As for the Binary method, I tried doing it for several hours yesterday but I can't get it to work. What should be the first steps before I use the Binary root program? Sorry, but I'm really such a noob at this. My Kindle btw is 8.9 version 8.4.3
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Qemu root did work for me with 8.4.3

KFF will root both 8.4.1 and 8.4.3.

FraDiavalo said:
I tried doing the SoupKit method but I'm having trouble with the ADB. Rootplus couldn't detect any ADB in the folder even though it's there. As for the Binary method, I tried doing it for several hours yesterday but I can't get it to work. What should be the first steps before I use the Binary root program? Sorry, but I'm really such a noob at this. My Kindle btw is 8.9 version 8.4.3
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the binaries provided by soupkit are for 32 Bit. Maybe you used a 64 Bit Linux installation? (Tried 64 Bit at first and it did not work, with 32 Bit it worked like a charm)

Finally got my Kindle rooted. I used the Soupkit method using Ubuntu 32 bit. Thanks everyone.

[Q] Evaluate my plan for rooting a new Fire TV

I bought a Fire TV from Staples and I'm hoping it will be rootable. Assuming it is, I was planning to do the following:
Block the updates at the router.
Plug in the Fire TV and follow the rooting procedure (using Towelroot) without upgrading the firmware
Install ClockworkMod
Install latest Prerooted Stock Image.
The rooting procedure has steps for getting the firmware to the latest rootable version prior to rooting, but rather than go through all that, I'd rather get root ASAP and then flash a pre-rooted firmware using ClockworkMod.
I've got lots of experience rooting and flashing phones and tablets, so I don't think installing a custom recovery will be an issue for me. Is this a good plan?

Once you are rooted and have su installed, you should follow this guide: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-ota-update-for-amazon-fire-tv-and-keep-root-access/.
If you haven't already done so, you can't go wrong browsing thru all of the aftvnews.com guides.

jmerrilljr2 said:
Once you are rooted and have su installed, you should follow this guide: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-ota-update-for-amazon-fire-tv-and-keep-root-access/.
If you haven't already done so, you can't go wrong browsing thru all of the aftvnews.com guides.
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Yes, disabling the service is something to do, but I was assuming the Prerooted Stock Images that I would be flashing would already have that disabled.

ASFAIK, rbox recommends doing this.

jmerrilljr2 said:
ASFAIK, rbox recommends doing this.
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depending on the version you get and hopefully its rootable. I would do this.
Enable adb, install towelroot, disable updates and if you are on the initial version of the firmware where the menu items fit in one screen, then you are good to go. else downgrade first.
for safety disable the amazon updates through su everytime you are on new firmware.
then go up to the last version before unlocked firmware of rbox
then unlock and go to the bootloader menu along with the latest firmware
block updates and you are golden. latest and perfectly rooted.

For anyone else reading this thread, rbox made a walkthrough guide: http://www.aftvnews.com/start/
Just follow that. It does what I was planning on doing.

Really confused, help me with upgrading?

My amazon fire tv is on a pre-rooted 5.1.3.0 and I would like to update to the latest version. What is the safest way to do this? I've read that I cannot just update to the lastest pre-rooted firmware

iHamie said:
My amazon fire tv is on a pre-rooted 5.1.3.0 and I would like to update to the latest version. What is the safest way to do this? I've read that I cannot just update to the lastest pre-rooted firmware
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Go to aftvnews and follow the guides for custom ROMs exactly. He's very precise but I'd install them incrementally because some people report bugs otherwise. You'll definetly want to do 51.1.4.0 before going to the latest. And just make sure you install bootmenu and unlock bootloader (I believe the one after yours requires bootmenu.) Failing to do so has resulted in bricks.

Update TWRP without installing latest pre-rooted ROM

I've done a search on the forum and can't find the exact answer I'm after. I have a Fire TV2 box that I would prefer to keep on Fire OS 5.0.5. TWRP Recovery is currently on 3.0.0-4 and I would like to update it to the latest version without installing the latest Fire OS pre-rooted ROM. There are many guides on the internet for updating TWRP on Android phone and I wonder if it is the same approach for Fire TV (and I can just follow one of those)? Thanks for all help.

Leedsgreen said:
IThere are many guides on the internet for updating TWRP on Android phone and I wonder if it is the same approach for Fire TV (and I can just follow one of those)? Thanks for all help.
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Nope, since TWRP runs from a ram disk, not from the recovery partition..

OK. So other than installing latest pre-rooted ROM is there anyway to update TWRP recovery (& stay on the Fire OS I’m currently on)? Thanks.