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Ok so I just rooted added a few apps for root nothing that I know will drain my battery, ok so my battery goes down like 10% each hour doesnt last, thats just sitting in my pocket, any ideas
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Are you running stock Rom? I suggest using an SBC kernel..
more info needed what programs have you added. something maybe causing a wake lock issue.
rooted my new EVO with unrevoked3,then installed netarchy-toastmod 4.3.1 kernel and my battery lasts all day with moderate usage
I doubt rooting it made your battery worse. there are many rom choices and apps to help you out. With rooting comes tinkering and it looks like its time to tinker. Look into an app called Spare Parts and another one call Autostarts
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Look into an app called Spare Parts and another one call Autostarts
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Spare Parts can be downloaded here: www.4shared.com/file/253237538/37996617/SpareParts.html
^^ is your best bet to find out what's eating your battery.
Cheers!
The other issue is your battery stats may be off if you did something odd during rooting. There are several ways to fix that, the generally accepted way is to charge the phone while its on, turn it off completly, then:
1: Unplug phone when light is green
2: Plug in the phone
3: Repeat 10-15 times
I had the same issue, and this is what I did to fix my battery.
1. let the phone die completely, IE when the phone cannot turn on at all anymore.
2.Leave the phone off, let it charge overnight.
3.Verify that the phone is at 100% by going into settings->about phone->status
4.Power the phone off.
5.Boot into recovery
6.Wipe battery stats.
This should fix the issue, if not then consider using a different rom/kernel combo. I myself am personally using CM7 and suffer maybe 40% drain at most with my phone in my pocket with a typical 12 hour shift at work.
**Also, turn 3G off if you aren't using the internet, facebook, or Gmail ect ect. You can still recieve phone calls and text messages using this method. I believe there used to be an option to only have 3G running when the screen is on but i'm not 100% sure if this is still available.**
Yeah like I did that crazy charge thing I read about where you let It die and it helped for a bit and now thing just goes down like 20% after 30mins of just sitting in my pocket
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Does anyone know if juice defender is actually a good app or no.
I use it on my phone but I never keep and data connections on anyway 3g 4g and wifi r always off unless I need to use them and then I turn them off when I'm done.
Since its "job" is kind of already done by me could it be a source of battery drain since its always running andin a way its for no reason.
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I know one of our devs randomking doesn't like it, and since his roms are heavily battery life oriented it was enough for me to stop using it
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Just think.its another app that wl run.just go to settings and customize that way.task killers waste battery and take up space.to maximize battery,research and try roms and kernels with different settings.im on miui rom,kernel v8,panache radio,and am at 38% battery,so with moderate use,its 38% after 10 hrs.gps off,with sporadic use of wifi.in otherwords,try different setups,but juice defender is up to u.
Myt4g on pacquiao type roids.miui.panache.
xopher.hunter said:
I know one of our devs randomking doesn't like it, and since his roms are heavily battery life oriented it was enough for me to stop using it
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I'm using his hawk 2 rom right now lol.
I guess I will take it off and see if I notice and differences. Thanks
sunlaw2 said:
Just think.its another app that wl run.just go to settings and customize that way.task killers waste battery and take up space.to maximize battery,research and try roms and kernels with different settings.im on miui rom,kernel v8,panache radio,and am at 38% battery,so with moderate use,its 38% after 10 hrs.gps off,with sporadic use of wifi.in otherwords,try different setups,but juice defender is up to u.
Myt4g on pacquiao type roids.miui.panache.
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That's what I was thinking.
So you also think that advance task killer isn't nesessary?
I use my phone a lot for almost everything so I try to keep my battery as high as possble but sometimes after just 3 or 4 hours I could be at 30% or lower.
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It is a very useful app, it will disable your radios when the screen is off to preserve battery life.
Gavisann said:
It is a very useful app, it will disable your radios when the screen is off to preserve battery life.
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But I keep everything off already
And I usually have problems with my signal I'm not sure if it could be from it or not but I'm gonna just uninstall it for a whil and see if there's any differences.
Juice defender works well for me. At work I would have to put my phone on the charge at noon just playing mp3s. i get through the hole day now with 40% or better. i stream music for about 7.5 hours of the work day.
I've used Juice Defender since I got my Epic.
Though now that I'm running an EH17 ROM, and frozen DRM services, it's really not necessary for me anymore. Been off the charger for 11 hours with light use and it's still over 50% - on the rom it shipped with I was lucky to get 8 hours before it would shut off (with JD I'd get about 18 hours).
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Juice defender works well for me. At work I would have to put my phone on the charge at noon just playing mp3s. i get through the hole day now with 40% or better. i stream music for about 7.5 hours of the work day.
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It probably helps you cuz you have internet connection on and it turns it off when your phone is sleep. I keep all my internet connections off all the time so I don't think out does anything in my case.
lifeofbean said:
I've used Juice Defender since I got my Epic.
Though now that I'm running an EH17 ROM, and frozen DRM services, it's really not necessary for me anymore. Been off the charger for 11 hours with light use and it's still over 50% - on the rom it shipped with I was lucky to get 8 hours before it would shut off (with JD I'd get about 18 hours).
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I'm on eh17 too and I froze drm, sns, and system updates. So far I've been on my phone for an hour and a half and in still at 100% this is great. I installed juice defender last night.
I have been using juice defender for a few weeks and it helps my battery life a lot. It really depends on your usage. I am in roaming areas fairly often where my phone used to search for signal for a long time if I keep it on.
I installed Juice Defender the other day & my phone had issues right away. I unistalled within a couple of hours. However, afterwards I was unable to access my pictures or videos stored on the SD card. I know this app caused the issue because I was looking at some pics right before installing it & could not access them after installing. Luckily I ran accross a post in th PA CM10 thread that gave me the solution. For some reason the Juice Defender app placed a .nomedia file on the root of my SD card that was causing my issue. I deleated that file & the media scanner autmatically started running. Just like that I had pictures again.
I hope this helps anyone that may run across this issue.
It wasn't juice defender... if you have rom manager it was that... I use juice defender and have never had it place a .nomedia anywhere... the app doesn't place files anywhere...
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It wasn't juice defender... if you have rom manager it was that... I use juice defender and have never had it place a .nomedia anywhere... the app doesn't place files anywhere...
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Thanks for the correction.....I assumed that since installing JD was the only thing that had changed in the hour or two that the issue popped up, then that would be the cause.....I have had ROM Manager & GooManager for a while but have had no such issues before....I guess if it becomes an issue then I will have to loose those......I only use them to check for updates & always do manual downloads & installs for the ROM's anyway......
Thanks again & sorry for jumping to conclusions......
Your good... a recent update to rom manager messed some things up... if you check its all over the forums that everybodies media is disappearing... rom manager is to blame... but I believe it has been updated and fixed....
depends on the ROM
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I know one of our devs randomking doesn't like it, and since his roms are heavily battery life oriented it was enough for me to stop using it
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I find it depends on the ROM. I was using it for CM9 to help but I find the CM10 pre+kernel+nexus modem combo is doing me wonders. I also stopped using the facebook app, uninstalled facebook mgr as well and use Trillian to connect to FB, AIM, etc. also trying to get rid of this media server.. seems I dont need it. I expect more battery after that (if removing it is possible) because it's #3 on my batt draining list right now.
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I find it depends on the ROM. I was using it for CM9 to help but I find the CM10 pre+kernel+nexus modem combo is doing me wonders. I also stopped using the facebook app, uninstalled facebook mgr as well and use Trillian to connect to FB, AIM, etc. also trying to get rid of this media server.. seems I dont need it. I expect more battery after that (if removing it is possible) because it's #3 on my batt draining list right now.
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If you listen to music and such (I believe whether it be streaming or mp3s from the sd card) that's why you see media server so high... same for me, but I'm constantly sitening to music while surfing xda... and still pull off 16+ hours on cm10... I used to use juice defender, but found if your gonna turn of data and such, it saves more battery if you can remember to do it yourself instead of having an app use resources to do so.........
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I used to use apps like JD or advanced task killer to kill background processes and turn stuff off until I found out how Android handles programs in the background so I became less concerned.
If you're having issues with massive drain on battery life, make sure its not because of weak cell phone reception. If you're in an area with little to no signal your phone will use up extra juice to try to attain a connection so it'll drain your battery like 50% faster. Also make sure you have things you don't use turned off... like BT, GPS, WIFI, 4G anything thats optional.
Also consider the battery and whether or not it needs replacement. I got a defective battery and didn't know it until I had the ability to compare my phone to 4 other Epic 4g phones.
So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!
You could try using Bloat Freezer to freeze apps. I have alot of the acer stuff frozen, and with it in standby, easily goes a day. Things like socialjogger, acer init, etc.
These are the apps I've completely removed from system apps, made a backup of course..
AcerClockwidget.apk&odex
Agendawidget.apk&odex
Aupeo.apk
Clearfi.apk
DTG.apk
LinkToFacebook.apk&odex
MusicA.apk&odex
MyLocationWidget.apk&odex
NemoPlayer.apk
Planner.apk
SocialJogger.apk
Solitaire.apk
Xt9.apk
You can also remove appinapp butyou will loose the games multimedia app I use that so kept it.
Battery life hasn't been that bad on mine. I expected worse, I just picked mine up last week and after reading reading reviews I expected worse.
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So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!
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WOW! I can use mine all off and on all day and don't have a problem. There has got to be an app that you are using that is destroying your battery when idle. If I don't use my tablet all day, it will last 2 full days (with wifi kept on).
That's what I was thinking. I get a decent amount of usage from it; it's when I'm not using it is when I feel like it drains the most.
I started freezing apps last night and let it charge overnight. I've still got to go through my apps and remove a few I don't use, and check to make sure they're not syncing too often. Do you all leave your gps and wifi on all of the time or have them shut off while the tablet sleeps?
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WOW! I can use mine all off and on all day and don't have a problem. There has got to be an app that you are using that is destroying your battery when idle. If I don't use my tablet all day, it will last 2 full days (with wifi kept on).
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My settings are to never turn WiFi off and I always leave sync on; I like getting notifications and app updates. I have a weather app that updates every hour and Pulse news that updates every 4 hours.
I also always leave my GPS on, but there aren't many apps that use it while it is not in focus, so I rarely ever see GPS pop up on my battery usage list.
I do not use a live wallpaper.
I found that with wifi on, my tablet drains about 1.5% per hour when idle.
allthrottle said:
So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!
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I suggest other than setting wifi to turn off when screen is off is to use a wifi toggle widget. You really never know what happens when the screen is off if your wifi is really turning off. Wish it was built in to the quick launch though like some Honeycomb tablet.
You can also use setcpu to setup profiles so that when the screen is off the processor stays at a slower speed rather than jumping into high gear when something wakes it up to sync. I've been able to go days without having to recharge (but I only use it for reading books, listening to the music I have on google music and play order and chaos every once in a while). I havn't touched my a100 in about 4 days and its sitting at 62% battery power.
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here is my usage, I never turn off wifi no profiles
I don't necessarily think you need to remove any of the stock app. My wifi is set to turn off when screen is off, GPS off unless I need it (apps like facebook will use it when you open it since it tries to get your location for checking in even if you're not checking in). Gmail is left at default but other mail is set to never (I just manually sync it when I open it).
If you wanna go a step further, you can install a wifi on/off widget to completely turn it off just incase an app is trying to use wifi.
With my setting my battery drains about 1-1.5% an hour when screen is off. IMO the screen is what uses the most battery. However though after conditioning the battery for 3 cycles it's been lasting longer.
I was just about ready to return / exchange my a100 so I did a factory reset on it. Lost track of time and forgot to, so I just decided to boot it back up and play with it. Left it alone at around 70% yesterday afternoon, came back home at 7pm today and to my surprise it was at 40% battery remaining. Must've been an app or setting I had that was killing it.
Probably end up hanging onto this awhile longer. Great tablet for the money!
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thats more like it glad you got it back to normal.
Guys i want the slimmest acer iconia rom possible please update the list? I just dont use much stock apps at all.
jay_993 said:
Guys i want the slimmest acer iconia rom possible please update the list? I just dont use much stock apps at all.
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Also can freezing apps brick your tab as well? Or does it defrost itself after boot?
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Also can freezing apps brick your tab as well? Or does it defrost itself after boot?
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I think with the 1gb ram on our device there shouldnt be a need to freeze any app and it doesnt defrost itself on reboot. Atleast it shouldnt.
Also I found for the most part if an app can be deleted it will let you delete it by dragging the app icon in the upper right in the app drawer. This is probably the safest way to delete rather than doing it in root explorer or TU.
This might be a dumb question but is it possible you have wifi issue that i've had on 2 a100s which will prob cause it to use more battery as its trying to work harder locking on.
It seems for the moment my battery issue was resolved with a factory reset. I have nearly the same apps on it now as before and my a100 hasn't been dying overnight. Don't believe I've frozen anything this time around either.
I don't think ram has a whole lot to do with it. I just figured some of these apps were starting themselves or syncing often, causing the battery drain.
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It seems for the moment my battery issue was resolved with a factory reset. I have nearly the same apps on it now as before and my a100 hasn't been dying overnight. Don't believe I've frozen anything this time around either.
I don't think ram has a whole lot to do with it. I just figured some of these apps were starting themselves or syncing often, causing the battery drain.
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Do you have a lot of widgets that requires syncing like youtube, twitter, weather, facebook? Those are the apps you probably what to check. OR you can just turn off wifi if youre not surfing or streaming.
Here's mine with wifi turned off. It was at 89 but I had to turn on wifi so I can find a screen capture app in the market. I have lots of apps including facebook, twitter, weather widget, which cant sync cause the wifi is off. Have not removed any stock app. I know this doesn't really answer what you asked but I'm just thinking something else might be wrong other than apps. Maybe its your battery not holding correct charge. Have you tried calibrating the battery?
I tried calibrating the battery the first time around. This time (after the reset) I haven't done anything special and have so far been getting 2 days of idle/light use before needing a charge. Satisfied so far. I was mainly concerned that I wouldn't be able to go on a trip without it needing a charge while sitting in my bag for a day without use.
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Has anyone else had issues with Facebook? It only likes to load for me if i have a strong data signal, (i get a signal lost screen constantly) and the app also goes rogue quite often and won't even allow my phone to charge because it's using up so much cpu. I've tried deleting and reinstalling to no avail. It acts this way on different roms as well. I don't remember earlier versions acting this way.
Anyone else?
I've had similar issues...not so with the charging issues though. Sometimes ill start it up, it will time out or do whatever its doing, and it then sits ans eats up 20 percent or more of my CPU until I close it. I've uninstalled it since it will sometimes begin eating up CPU on its own. Not a terrible thing since I'm not on Facebook but definitely needs to be fixed.
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I started using friendcaster which doesn't hang up like Facebook, although you still need to be signed in to Facebook on your phone. You would think an app for a site like Facebook would be flawless. There's no reason it can't work just as well as tapatalk.
I agree. Facebook app is so badly developed. At times I noticed in battery stats that it would prevent the phone from going into deep sleep causing battery to drain. Friendcaster is a great alternative. I use it.
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same here, phone gets super hot with it, then I go into task manager and its got the cpu pegged at sometimes 50% or more. Ive actually just created a shortcut to the mobile site which actually looks and mimics the app, the only thing is you dont get contact sync unless you use social hub or leave the fb app installed.
tweetcaster on non aokp roms causes the same issues for me
no matter what phone ive ever had, ive never gotten battery life like aot of you guys do. i dont know how you do IT but ive given up trying.. Even . even with roms i cant. i am on stock wiht note 2 and it is so bad that i can unplug and not touch my phone and it goes to 90 percent with the screen off within 20 minutes . i have sync gps wireless and bluetooth off. and my screen goes black in 10 seconds. one thing is when i go to running programs it shows alot so i use the broom to clean it and then when i check back to ruining programs a minute after, there are lots of apps open again. even things like word with friends that of course wouldn't be open if i didn't open it. have you heard of this/. or is it normal? would you suggest a hard reset? any suggestions would be appreciated. im not as savvy with flashing roms on here as i was with early phones so id prefer to say on stock. thanks so much
jeff
Phones aren't the same each one is different. What battery performance I get may not be the same as you as our chips etc may run slightly different.
With that said, the biggest influence over battery performance is the kernel. I run saber kernel 42.4 and get 1% loss per hour with the screen off.
Of course you can try that kernel and see how it works for you. There are a lot of tips threads in these forums but I would advise you to turn off tts any and all sounds on your phone, by that I mean keyboard sounds etc.
Then you need to download better battery stats and greenify. The first will tell you what apps are eating your battery and the second will let you force close the app until you restart it.
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+1 for greenify. I would also look at xposed boot manager and recciever stop. Grenify puts programs to sleep and the other 2 stop them starting in the first place. You have to be rooted but you will definitely notice the difference
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Autostarts app will allegedly stop them from starting as well.
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