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I've been a phone enthusiast for a long time. I noticed something strange with my Galaxy Nexus that I forgot about. I seen an iPhone do this and Windows Mobile does it too... but not android.
The screen backlight idle time vs turn off.
When the screens on, why not kill the backlight (or ultra dim for amoleds) after 15 seconds and then turn off the screen after like 30 seconds or something.
Usually in Windows Mobile, these were adjustable to your liking.
Why don't androids do this? The screen just cuts out and there is only 1 timer. To save battery I use 15s but once it turns off you have to unlock the damn phone again. This makes reading long paragraphs and emails frustrating.
Why not also have the lock screen NOT lock when the screen idles off... but rather a timer like 2min... UNLESS you manually hit the power button.
I never really noticed this until I got my N7 with a case that makes the power button awkward to reach. I have its screen idle off timer set to 2min.
I think it would be great to implement this into Android. Hope everyone follows what I'm trying to describe. And if your planning on posting anything along the lines of "well get an iTurd or Windoze" then just exit and go elsewhere. This is a serious discussion of the possibilities.
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player911 said:
I've been a phone enthusiast for a long time. I noticed something strange with my Galaxy Nexus that I forgot about. I seen an iPhone do this and Windows Mobile does it too... but not android.
The screen backlight idle time vs turn off.
When the screens on, why not kill the backlight (or ultra dim for amoleds) after 15 seconds and then turn off the screen after like 30 seconds or something.
Usually in Windows Mobile, these were adjustable to your liking.
Why don't androids do this? The screen just cuts out and there is only 1 timer. To save battery I use 15s but once it turns off you have to unlock the damn phone again. This makes reading long paragraphs and emails frustrating.
Why not also have the lock screen NOT lock when the screen idles off... but rather a timer like 2min... UNLESS you manually hit the power button.
I never really noticed this until I got my N7 with a case that makes the power button awkward to reach. I have its screen idle off timer set to 2min.
I think it would be great to implement this into Android. Hope everyone follows what I'm trying to describe. And if your planning on posting anything along the lines of "well get an iTurd or Windoze" then just exit and go elsewhere. This is a serious discussion of the possibilities.
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My phone dims quite a bit before it shuts off the screen.
I don't know about the other things, but there is in fact the ability to have the screen not lock immediately after it turns off. Set the timer in the Security menu.
If you use any other screen lock but "slide" you can adjust the time it'll take to really "lock" the phone. There is an option in the security settings.
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If you use any other screen lock but "slide" you can adjust the time it'll take to really "lock" the phone. There is an option in the security settings.
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welcome to nine minutes prior to your post
Lol. Smdh. We should change smartphone to phonesmart.
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leppo said:
welcome to nine minutes prior to your post
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Welcome to not hitting f5 every second, douche...
If I had seen your post I may not have bothered answering. Not sure why you'd feel the need to comment on someone saying the same as you, particularly since my post includes one very important additional information. This option is NOT available when you use the standard "slide to unlock" setting.
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Welcome to not hitting f5 every second, douche...
If I had seen your post I may not have bothered answering. Not sure why you'd feel the need to comment on someone saying the same as you, particularly since my post includes one very important additional information. This option is NOT available when you use the standard "slide to unlock" setting.
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awesome.
To be fair, OP wants the screen to lock if manually shut off, and to automatically lock after a certain period of time if the screen is automatically shut off as per the timer.
So technically no one's right!
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True... but also to dim before turning off.
My screen just shuts off after 15seconds. Same on my N7 after 2 minutes. Why isn't there a period when the backlight/screen dims before turning off.
For example:
After 10s - Dims to lowest brightness.
After 30s - Screen turns off.
After 1min - Phone locks.
P.S. I just disable my lock screen. Its refreshing to not have to swipe it all the time. Unless you have a security pin or FaceUnlock, a typical swipe is pretty pointless. With the power button on the side, I doubt well be unlocking it accidentally. The chances of turning on the phone, somehow hitting phone, and somehow navigating and selecting a contact is so slim.
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I have my setting at 30 seconds.
After 20 seconds the screen dims and at 30 it turns off.
Its always had this behavior. On every android phone I've had.
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El Daddy said:
I have my setting at 30 seconds.
After 20 seconds the screen dims and at 30 it turns off.
Its always had this behavior. On every android phone I've had.
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+1 My screen dims before shutting off as well. If I'm reading or something and I see the screen dim, I know to give it a tap so it doesn't turn off. Ever since I had my Samsung Moment...
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I already mentioned that mine did this, but I have always wanted to do a +1 so...
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Yep mine too while reading. As stated above when I see the screen dim I have to tap it from sleeping.
Also, with most custom ROMs (not sure about stock) in screen security or lock screen settings you can generally set 1) how long until the screen turns off 2) how long the phone will stay unlocked after the screen has gone off and 3) whether or not pressing the power button immediately locks the phone or not.
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Hmmm. Well I guess since I have mine set to 15s it just shuts off. My N7 runs EOS nightlies and it doesn't dim either with a 2min setting.
It would be nice to have a dimmer timer though to control the dim/sleep differences.
What rom is that because I'm on the latest Liquid and there aren't any options like that in the security settings.
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They are there just not for slide or none. Kinda weird.
30s does dim after 20s but barely. Seems the iPhone does this sooner, like 10s and dims much much more. I'm just thinking that with a big power hungry display, it would be beneficial to tweak these timers to minimize wasteful unused screen-on time.
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The ROM in those screenshots is Dark Paranoid Android. Sorry, should have mentioned that.
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If you go to the Display settings, then Automatic backlight, you can check "use custom" which then allows you to set the screen dim level. Its default is 20, but you can set it to 1 if you really want to see it dim.
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player911 said:
Hmmm. Well I guess since I have mine set to 15s it just shuts off. My N7 runs EOS nightlies and it doesn't dim either with a 2min setting.
It would be nice to have a dimmer timer though to control the dim/sleep differences.
What rom is that because I'm on the latest Liquid and there aren't any options like that in the security settings.
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They are there just not for slide or none. Kinda weird.
30s does dim after 20s but barely. Seems the iPhone does this sooner, like 10s and dims much much more. I'm just thinking that with a big power hungry display, it would be beneficial to tweak these timers to minimize wasteful unused screen-on time.
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Maybe its app specific? My N7 dims too, but NOT if Google Books is open and active.
Every night, I mute my notifications on my 360, but still when I move (rollover, shift, etc.) my watch screen will turn on, lighting up my room. I've tried darker faces and it helps a bit, but it is still quite bright in a dark room. Is there any app out there that will disable the accelerometer screen on feature of the device? I still need the accelerometer to work at night, just not turn on the screen.
joedon3 said:
Every night, I mute my notifications on my 360, but still when I move (rollover, shift, etc.) my watch screen will turn on, lighting up my room. I've tried darker faces and it helps a bit, but it is still quite bright in a dark room. Is there any app out there that will disable the accelerometer screen on feature of the device? I still need the accelerometer to work at night, just not turn on the screen.
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That's weird. My watch is always connected and I usually turn my ambient screen on the device to off when the watch dims on the charger. I never get notifications on the watch when docked / charging and the screen doesn't wake either. Anyone else?
Are you on the latest update?
You didn't read properly. .It is on his wrist while he sleeps not on the charger
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pakure said:
You didn't read properly. .It is on his wrist while he sleeps not on the charger
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Ah sorry lol.
Guess it didn't make sense to me that he was leaving it on while sleeping. :silly:
Actually hes using it for sleep tracking and I do as well. I bet the troll doesnt even own a 360.
I'd also like to know if anyone has made something to do what he's asking.
Another cool thing about sleeping with a smartwatch is the ability to have it vibrate to wake you up without disturbing anyone else
What app is being used for sleep tracking?
Huh? Wut?
Do I need to come in and keep the peace?
Knock it off and be civil please.
MD
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DarienA said:
What app is being used for sleep tracking?
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I'm using Sleep as Android for the sleep tracking with the cloud backup option. it's a 14 day trial, $5 to buy, but well worth it considering the 3rd party integration and features.
So I've had a difficult time snoozing my alarm from my phone since getting the 360. Of course this is at 6am and I'm just fumbling with buttons until the alarm quiets. Problem is I seem to be completely turning the alarm off, which has resulted in me waking up an hour late the last 2 days.
The only conclusion I can reach us the fact that my watch is connected. Is there anyway to ensure I'm snoozing/turning off my alarm from my phone? Am I right in thinking the watch is causing this issue?
gerg004 said:
So I've had a difficult time snoozing my alarm from my phone since getting the 360. Of course this is at 6am and I'm just fumbling with buttons until the alarm quiets. Problem is I seem to be completely turning the alarm off, which has resulted in me waking up an hour late the last 2 days.
The only conclusion I can reach us the fact that my watch is connected. Is there anyway to ensure I'm snoozing/turning off my alarm from my phone? Am I right in thinking the watch is causing this issue?
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The watch and phone have completely separate alarm apps. They don't interact with each other in any way. Has nothing to do with the watch.
akellar said:
The watch and phone have completely separate alarm apps. They don't interact with each other in any way. Has nothing to do with the watch.
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It's just strange that all the sudden my volume keys don't "snooze", and nothing is actually showing up on my phone giving me an option to swipe for "snooze" or "turn off".
Seems like the only way to get it to stop is to hit the power button and all that does is turn the alarm off. Have never had this happen until the watch was connected. And at the time it happens my watch is docked and doesn't show anything other than the time and change (normal screen when watch is on the charger. Standard charger that came with the 360 mind you).
Guess it's time to do some experiments and see what's going on.
This might be one of threads that could benefit from knowing which phone and ROM you are using.
On a stock Nexus 5, the Alarm clock works the same since I've purchased the watch. On screen I have the option to Snooze or Turn off the alarm with a swipe.
vansmack said:
This might be one of threads that could benefit from knowing which phone and ROM you are using.
On a stock Nexus 5, the Alarm clock works the same since I've purchased the watch. On screen I have the option to Snooze or Turn off the alarm with a swipe.
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Note 3 running the same alliance rom v1 and stock clock app that I've been running for the past several months. The alarmed worked literally the day I bought the Moto 360. It stopped working literally the next morning after connecting the watch for the 1st time the day before.
The only thing that changed was using the 360. Guess im.the only one having the issue. Once I get home I'll be able to test it out while on the charger.
Perhaps you can disconnect the 360 tonight and see if you face the same issue tomorrow morning.
So after messing around with a few suggestions of people who did this accidentally. I have been able to repeat it every night.
1. Put the phone on the charger with ambient mode on or off doesn't matter.
2. Go into android wear app on your phone.
3. When the watch face has dimmed on the charger switch ambient mode on,(using the phone) the screen with go bright again then it will dim. Once it has dimmed wait 5 seconds and turn ambient mode to off. The screen should now turn off on the watch.
4. If you put it on the charger with ambient mode enabled wait for it to dim, wait 5 seconds then switch ambient mode off. If the face doesn't turn off you are now able to start at step 3 so that's why it didn't matter how you started.
This is the first time I've had something to contribute, so let me know how it works for you. I'll post a video when I get home, unless someone beats me to it. My build is KGW42R if that makes a difference.
This was posted before, but thanks for the contribution.
I'm hoping they eventually put an option in the settings to auto disable display while charging.
Andromjb said:
This was posted before, but thanks for the contribution.
I'm hoping they eventually put an option in the settings to auto disable display while charging.
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Ah, my bad. Last I had seen it was a few pages into a thread. Well nobody should have to ask the question on how to I suppose. You have two sources lol
Anyone know how to automate this using tasker? Or some shell script?
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for me, after i do this, screen turns off... but eventually in the night, the watch turns back on, i think when my phone does some kinda of check or gets a notification, the watch turns back on... so for me its useless..
Even if the screen is off all night is it safe to leave it on charge all night, especially as it is fully charged after 2 hrs? I've only had my watch since Monday so still figuring out the best practice but I've been charging it for a bit in the evening before heading off to sleep, completely turning it off and then in the morning while getting ready just putting it on the charger to a) turn on and b) charge fully.
I know in the manual it says that it has smart technology to protect it against overcharging but does it not stay hot all night on the cradle?
I would not recommend putting it on charge overnight with the back getting hot and the plastic back being crack prone
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Thank you for this. Will come in handy when my Moto 360 arrives sometime next week.
pakure said:
I would not recommend putting it on charge overnight with the back getting hot and the plastic back being crack prone
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Non-issue. The back barely gets hot and even if it does just don't pull on the strap to the point that it causes pressure. Or simply take it off the charger for a minute before putting it on. It's not like its getting hot enough to melt the plastic. You can most definitely charge it overnight without a problem.
I've been doing this since I got the watch but last night after I installed the update the trick won't work. I go through the entire process and all goes like normal, but about 10 seconds after the screen shuts off, the backlight turns on. Anyone else having this issue?
nick.XIII said:
I've been doing this since I got the watch but last night after I installed the update the trick won't work. I go through the entire process and all goes like normal, but about 10 seconds after the screen shuts off, the backlight turns on. Anyone else having this issue?
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I've noticed the backlight is on but it's still black. I guess at least it reduces the chance of the graphics getting stuck.
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New update installed and the trick still works. No backlight just screen off.
I noticed that i dont have to be accurate and time 5-10 seconds after screen fades. It works anytime after the screen faded.
Anyway, thanks for the great tip!! :good:
nick.XIII said:
I've been doing this since I got the watch but last night after I installed the update the trick won't work. I go through the entire process and all goes like normal, but about 10 seconds after the screen shuts off, the backlight turns on. Anyone else having this issue?
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I actually am having this issue. I usually turn off bluetooth on my phone right away, but the watch seems to continue to turn back on with the black screen only, which happened to drain my battery and make the watch really hot. Kinda strange.
This works for me without any issue, even after the last update from yesterday.
I just put the watch on the charger, then from the phone I set the Ambient Mode to ON, then to OFF and the screen turns off.
But here is the trick that I have noticed: you MUST have no light in the room, or cover the watch screen while doing the procedure. If there is light in the room, it won't work ! I accidentally discovered this.
There is also a build.prop edit in the development forum that allows you to change a line and when the watch is put on the charger, it does it automatically.
If you don't want to root your watch and you have a rooted phone, I made an app that does the button pressing for you
So the option to turn off the Display on Charger (Developer Menu) is not fixed?
Not to my knowledge.
abuttino said:
There is also a build.prop edit in the development forum that allows you to change a line and when the watch is put on the charger, it does it automatically.
If you don't want to root your watch and you have a rooted phone, I made an app that does the button pressing for you
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Hi can you share the app pls thank you?
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I noticed the trick using the ambient setting works does turn off the display immediately but after a while ( not sure how long) the back light comes back. You see a faint back light with screen not nothing showing anything. Can only see this in pitch black at night all lights off
Anyone see the same behaviour?
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https://plus.google.com/109468208780802399420/posts/fZ2YkEkH7aT
The app that will do the same actions
With the latest update, this method doesn't work anymore. The screen will always turn on with a black screen after a couple of seconds. I don't think I will be charging it overnight anymore and just wait to charge it in the morning while getting ready.
Wish moto would give us an option to use nightstand mode or not. Even when dimmed it's still bright while sleeping.
My Moto 360 sometimes comes on at night on my wrist, which then illuminates the whole room and disturbs my wife. I would like to keep it on for sleep tracking but I can't seem to find any way to keep the screen from waking on gestures while I sleep.
Are there some settings I'm missing, or an app that can be run to disable gestures?
Wait for the next update.. May be tomorrow?!!
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