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What's needed for backup

Hi. I have a new GS4 arriving in a few days and wanted to find out what needs to be done in order to use titanium backup and to do a nandroid.
I have read conflicting stories that it needs to be fully rooted, that it only needs the bootloader unlocked, and that the bootloader comes already unlocked on the T-Mobile version. Can someone please clarify for me? I don't need to flash a custom ROM or kernel or anything like that. The phone is for my son, so all I want is to be able to do full backups for him. Thanks.
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You need to be rooted.
-Titanium BU will backup your app plus app data
-For a nandroid backup you'll need to have a custom recovery (ie CWM, TWRP)
I used this for root (it will install SU binary and app, plus stock recovery)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005
To install custom recovery you can use Odin to flash the tar version or use ROM manager, GOO ect depending on the recovery you want.

Everything baseballfanz posted.
The M919 Bootloader comes Unlocked outta the box.
For years, I've used Titanium Backup with the Pro key. Excellentsand theGGold Standard. Does everything except pour your coffee
I also use My Backup Pro as a redundancy. I primarily use it to backup & restore my Call Logs, MMS, SMS, etc . It also backs up & restores Apps and Data. I set it to back on a schedule.
For a Custom Recovery, I use TWRP 2.5.0.2.
https://hotfile.com/dl/230303459/7ce1553/openrecovery-twrp-2.5.0.2-jfltexx.tar.html
If you decide to flash TWRP, don't flash with Goo Manager as it will install TWRP 2.6.0.0 of which known issues have been reported. TWRP 2.5.0.2 has very little issues if any. I've been using it for months without any issues. Working flawlessly. TWRP also gets installed with ODIN. If you need the steps, let me know and I'll post them.
For Rooting, I also use CF-AUTO-ROOT by Chainfire installed with ODIN. Easy as pie, or however that saying goes.
Any questions, post away

Thanks to both of you. I'm already familiar with Titanium as I use the pro version on my tmo MT4G, rooted with cwm and running cyanogen. At least for now. I'll be getting myself the GS4 as well soon. So I know the virtues of using TB.
However, my son wants to stick with stock and get ota updates and I want him to be able to remove bloatware, backup everything, and be able to tweak a few things like the whole YouTube link issue(if it's still an issue) so we're looking for a reasonable compromise.
I also currently use cwm ROM manager app, droidwall, and spare parts+ which I would like to put on his phone if they will work.
Biker1... When you say bootloader comes unlocked, that's for the tmo one we will be getting?
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Yes the T-mobile version M919 come with an unlocked bootloader.

OK thx good to know. So what will be my first step when unboxing it in order to be able to use the aforementioned apps? I also have root explorer, mybackup root, s2e, and superuser on the MT4G if they will be useful on the GS4.
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Sorraia3 said:
OK thx good to know. So what will be my first step when unboxing it in order to be able to use the aforementioned apps? I also have root explorer, mybackup root, s2e, and superuser on the MT4G if they will be useful on the GS4.
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Charge the battery fully!
Make sure you have a good known working usb cable. You should as it will be a new one.
You wanna have enough juice to do your installations and if things run a little long, you don't wanna get stuck in the middle
You have those Rooted apps so you can root the S4 using:
CF-AUTO-ROOT by Chainfire using ODIN. I'll post a link soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005
In addition, install a Custom Recovery. There are a few good ones.
Personally, I use TWRP 2.5.0.2
Don't use Goo Manager as that will install version 2.6.0.0 which has known issues. Been using 2.5.0.2 for months without issue, but you can use a custom recovery of your choice of course.
So:
Charge battery
Have a good usb cable
ODIN CF-AUTO-ROOT
Boot
ODIN Custom Recovery
Boot
Check you S4 to make sure you're good to go.
Make a Nandroid
Install your Apps
When ready, download and Flash a ROM and Enjoy

OK it seems he really wants a chance to play with it out of the box. So, once its charged, it's his for now. I'm wondering though, if the bootloader is unlocked already does that mean if we choose to root it at a later date it won't need to be wiped or will it still lose anything not on the sd card?
I already went through this with one son who got a new phone and ended up losing everything on the old one because he wouldn't let me root it from the start and back things up. But that phone would've required a full wipe when I unlocked the bootloader.
If this guy starts setting things up and installing apps and data and such, and then wants me to root it for TB, will he lose everything?
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Sorraia3 said:
OK it seems he really wants a chance to play with it out of the box. So, once its charged, it's his for now. I'm wondering though, if the bootloader is unlocked already does that mean if we choose to root it at a later date it won't need to be wiped or will it still lose anything not on the sd card?
I already went through this with one son who got a new phone and ended up losing everything on the old one because he wouldn't let me root it from the start and back things up. But that phone would've required a full wipe when I unlocked the bootloader.
If this guy starts setting things up and installing apps and data and such, and then wants me to root it for TB, will he lose everything?
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No. You can Root ltr on and not lose anything.
Rooting via CF-AUTO-ROOT via ODIN will not cause you to have to Wipe anything.
He can always back up his files every once in a while to his pc, which you would do whether you're gonna Root or not, for that 'Just in case' moment. You know, Murphy's Law
I don't do that as often as I should.
If there's a time when you have to Wipe device memory, you'd just transfer the files to the pc and/or SD card.
If everything's good to go, and you're ready to Root, But things go wrong (Murphy's Law again) and you have to wipe Internal but you didn't save the files, you'll be outta luck, but that can happen anytime. So just back up once in a while. Better safe than sorry........
What will most likely happen:
- your son will dl files, games, etc.
- later on, days, weeks, months, he'll want to Root
- you'll ODIN CF-AUTO -ROOT by Chainfire and you'll be good to go.
- after installing Recovery and TiBu, you'll back up the data on the device,and that's it.

OK... That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks so much!
Alrighty so, Odin is the program I will use to access the adb commands on the pc, correct? And I get that from where?
And the cf root file? Is there a handy link? Steps to follow, a guide perhaps?
After that's done I assume I have to flash the recovery? I prefer cwm. Or is that part of the cf/odin process?
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Sorraia3 said:
OK... That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks so much!
Alrighty so, Odin is the program I will use to access the adb commands on the pc, correct? And I get that from where?
And the cf root file? Is there a handy link? Steps to follow, a guide perhaps?
After that's done I assume I have to flash the recovery? I prefer cwm. Or is that part of the cf/odin process?
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The CF-AUTO-ROOT link is posted previously. You install with ODIN.
I'll get you a link to ODIN so you can see what it's about.
You dl ODIN on your pc. You need drivers installed on your pc to recognize your S4.
You put tar files in the appropriate ODIN boxes
Tar files can be extracted from zip files.
You have to follow ODIN instructions exactly.
I'm briefly going through the basics as you really need to read the associated threads so you get an idea how the process works, then you'll probably have some questions which we can answer.
I'm not sure if CWM Recovery is installed via ODIN.
TWRP is. I use Version 2.5.0.2. But you can use CWM. There's a thread to show you howttoiinstall.
Root with CF-AUTO-ROOT via ODIN 3.07
Install Recovery (method depends on choice of Recovery)
Make a Nandroid backup
Then you can install, flash, etc. etc.....

Ok so he decided it was easy and quick enough to let me do it now. I'm following the thread instructions. I have the cf root and odin files. I run odin, check pda and pick the cf root file. I turn off phone, go into download mode and get the green android that says downloading do not turn off target. Now what?
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Sorraia3 said:
Ok so he decided it was easy and quick enough to let me do it now. I'm following the thread instructions. I have the cf root and odin files. I run odin, check pda and pick the cf root file. I turn off phone, go into download mode and get the green android that says downloading do not turn off target. Now what?
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Connect to pc usb port to:
- a known working port
- with a known working usb cable. Stock cable should be fine.
HOLD ON
WAIT!

Sorraia3 said:
Ok so he decided it was easy and quick enough to let me do it now. I'm following the thread instructions. I have the cf root and odin files. I run odin, check pda and pick the cf root file. I turn off phone, go into download mode and get the green android that says downloading do not turn off target. Now what?
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-Plug phone into USB cord attached to pc
-It might need to install drivers just wait till that's done
-Click on START button on Odin
Everything you need to know is posted in the CF, auto root post.
Post=2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41797153

Nothing happens. Its just me and the little green android sitting here staring at each other.
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You're doing it backwards.
Open up ODIN
After you have s4 in dl mode
Plug into usb on pc
Wait for phone to be recognized via COM Port
THEN put tar files in PDA slot and check appropriate boxes
AsiI explained previously, learning the process is extremely important, and without being there, so to speak, things can go wrong, Fast....

It found the phone, said had the samsung drivers then nothing. It's not showing up under ID:COM and I still have my little green friend again.
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Sorraia3 said:
It found the phone, said had the samsung drivers then nothing. It's not showing up under ID:COM and I still have my little green friend again.
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Is the COM Port showing
COM 1 or another number and showing in Blue or Green

No
Its not the usb port, I don't think anyway. Mouse works in both.
Of course I am on a crappy vista laptop... Think I'd have better luck using the xp desktop?
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How to restore older firmware

My Ouya is rooted and I have CWM installed. This was all done without using adb,. I used rootmyouya and the Exposed framework abd Exposed mod. Ever since the April 17th firmware update I get a lot of stuttering when streaming internet videos using XBMC via ethernet and wifi is so bad I will not even consider that anymore. I have the Ouya firmware release zip prior to the ethernet screwup. What I need to know is how to flash the zip to rollback to the previous and then prevent Ouya from automatically updating again. At present the zip is located on my tablet but I can upload it to dropbox and then dl to the Ouya. Any suggestions on what I want to do?.
Gaming is secondary to using the Ouya as a media center for me.

What kind of files are you trying to watch and from where? I am using a Nas and have no problems watching 720p and 1080p over wifi. It takes awhile to buffer but it works just fine for me. I would imagine ethernet is better. If you really want to return to another firmware I would suggest restoring to default first. There is a website that hosts all of the updates, it is posted on the forum. Try searching for it.
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You have to install the zip from cwm by going into recovery and choosing install from zip. You also have to clear cache and davlik before you flash. I still would advise against flashing anything because the ouya is very easy to brick and at this point extremely hard to recover a bricked ouya if at all.
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to downgrade to earlier firmware go to ota firmware thread in development forum (i think) and download the one you like to flash
then flash ota like any other rom, they are complete roms anyway.
but to don't forget to backup your files first

[Q] Help with LG Optimus G Pro. Can't restore to stock!

Hi I am sorry if I sound new/n00b or completely dense.
This is my first android handset so please bear with me. I have an LG E980 from At&T and it was on 4.1.2 and I rooted it. I then installed CWM and a few other things I found on here after browsing for a few days. I currently am on the CM10.2 build and it is not good for signal at all. I keep losing LTE and it goes in and out.
So I want to unroot my phone and just restore to the original Rom that would have come with it. I have done multiple attempts at doing so.
I used the rom found here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2272177
As well as I have tried to use this one as well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2361928
Neither work. I leave the name of the zip file as is and drag and drop it into the following folder clockworkmod/backup
when i boot into recovery i select the correct file and try to install it and to no avail. I keep getting install aborted or failed.
I was told to use Windows and the LG Suite? I am using a Mac. I install Windows and went about that way but the program kept freezing everytime. It was starting at the download process part and just sat there. I left it alone for almost 2 hours and it did nothing. I am getting very frustrated now. Does anyone have any idea what I can do short of just selling this phone and going back to crApple ifone?
If you can help me get this fixed I would be very happy! Any other information about the phone I can give you let me know!

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Just to know, when you were on 10.2, did you flash the AT&T modem again?
If you are still on it, you might try that first.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302660

You have to return to stock using LG flash tool
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Once you flash cm10 you can't just flash back using recovery
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LG PC Suite says I already have most current version...
Hey everything seems to be going fine with flash tool until it comes time to load the stock rom. It says my current software is up to date and won't let me change firware. Suggestions?

[Q] Need help unrooting / getting stock without usb

My n7 2013 needs to be sent in for repair. I got the RMA from asus. The device will not under any circumstance charge while turned on (only while powered off) and it will not get recognized on any computer when plugged in to the USB. As a result I cannot use any of the toolkits that are out there to unroot / get back to stock.
I can download a stock image without root and flash it in TWRP (from my tablet). I can then lock the bootloader from the tablet (correct? by going into recovery?).
I am not sure how I "uninstall" TWRP and get back to stock recovery without USB access.
Is there a way to do this? To get TWRP installed I followed a step by step guide and flashed it using USB with it hooked up to my PC.
If anyone could help me out or send me a link with a guide of how to get stock without plugging the tablet into my computer that would be greatly helpful. I am kinda screwed if I cant do this, as I am sending this tablet back to ASUS.

Don't hold me to this but can you flash a factory ROM from mobile Odin? I had the same problem with my Galaxy note, though I am not sure if it works with the N7.
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Nah mobile odin (at least according to the description on the play store) only works on Samsung devices.
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That's right. I think you are screwed. Unless maybe there's a way to do it through a open recovery script?
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[Q] New to Rooting, S4 M919 4.3 MK2 Tmobile Knox

Whoa, this has got to be one of the most unorganized forums on the internet. LoL, sorry, its just soooo hard to find clear, up to date info, that I had to make a thread here.
I basically decided its time to update my phone and I want to root it, mainly to get battery savings and stop google from running all those apps in the background (who knows what info they are gathering).
Anyways, like the title states,
I'm on Tmobile, with a M919 on 4.3 with MK2, I would like to go to kitkat and root and NOT TRIP KNOX, if possible.
I'd also be interested in custom roms, if possible, like CyanogenMod... But of course, I'd like to keep my warranty, as I've already had to use it once, and I still have 2 whole months left and wifi is acting up (I get a lot of unstable wifi messages recently, didn't check my router yet but my laptop is working fine....)
Your help is appreciated.
Thx

ohh, my wife's phone is on 4.2.2, she is due for an update too, she wants the emoticons so that's one "major" reason to update...
Perhaps I can switch phones with her, and update that one to a rooted 4.4.2 without tripping knox, if possible?? Please point me in the right direction... I also like many of the features that dbombmod rom has, like call recording and more..

Yours is gonna trip Knox.
Trade her for yours. And update your modem to nb4 this way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678774
Root with chainfire's autoroot method.
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This is where you get cyanogenmod: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Jflte_Info
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I'd download the latest nightly and ROM manager and install from SD card.
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Root your 4.3 MK2 phone using saferoot...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2732695
You wont trip KNOX
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cool thanks, I will read up on safe root, but it looks like it may work. So once I'm rooted, I can install any rom right, even the 4.4.2 with knox removed and it would be fine right? And also the NB4 modem as well, and any kernel too?
My wife is hesistant to switch with me now because of the wifi unstable issue I have. I think I may have fixed it by clearing the Wifi Direct and Wifi Direct apps cache and data. Hopefully it is only a software problem, and not a hardware problem.
oyyy, after further reading, this does root the phone, but doesn't unlock the bootloader, and without an unlocked bootloader you cannot install custom roms, but I still didn't read if I can install another modem or another kernel???

what about towelroot? Does that unlock the bootloader?

tried towelroot on 4.3...
didn't work
updated to 4.4.2,
still doesn't work
ughhh
ohhh well, I guess I will switch phones with wife...

Lol. You can still download custom ROMs with a locked bootloader. If you do flash the NB4 modem you will definately trip KNOX. If you flash a non stock kernel you will trip KNOX and if you flash a custom recovery you will trip KNOX.
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Kriptik210 said:
Lol. You can still download custom ROMs with a locked bootloader. If you do flash the NB4 modem you will definately trip KNOX. If you flash a non stock kernel you will trip KNOX and if you flash a custom recovery you will trip KNOX.
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bootloader is not locked.. OP you can try using safe strap but not sure if it works with our device.. its in the at&t & Verizon forums I believe
Edit: make sure to read and ask though!
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serio22 said:
bootloader is not locked.. OP you can try using safe strap but not sure if it works with our device.. its in the at&t & Verizon forums I believe
Edit: make sure to read and ask though!
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I finished setting up my old phone for my wife. I "Turned off" many of the apps that are installed that we never use, so her battery should do ok on 4.4.2
I just did towelroot on her phone, and it has instant root access, no reboot required or anything. Root Checker says I have root already. yay. Now I guess I need to update with modded firmware. Is there any particular order I have to install stuff?
Can I start with the rom, then modem, then kernel or is there a particular order I need to install stuff. And what should I use, odin or what?

killercut said:
I finished setting up my old phone for my wife. I "Turned off" many of the apps that are installed that we never use, so her battery should do ok on 4.4.2
I just did towelroot on her phone, and it has instant root access, no reboot required or anything. Root Checker says I have root already. yay. Now I guess I need to update with modded firmware. Is there any particular order I have to install stuff?
Can I start with the rom, then modem, then kernel or is there a particular order I need to install stuff. And what should I use, odin or what?
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You can flashbin any order. Some ROMs come with a kernel that they recommend but you can flash a different one if you prefer. If you DL Titanium Backup from the play store you can freeze any unwanted apps completely instead of just turning them off.
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just to clarify, I did the towel root on her old phone on 4.2.2 which is my phone now.
towelroot didn't work on 4.3 nor 4.4.2
I just did a wipe on the 4.2.2 with clockworkmod setup and tried to install the fenny stock 4.4.2 rom and it came up with an error, something about expects 5 args got 4
should I use odin or something?

killercut said:
I finished setting up my old phone for my wife. I "Turned off" many of the apps that are installed that we never use, so her battery should do ok on 4.4.2
I just did towelroot on her phone, and it has instant root access, no reboot required or anything. Root Checker says I have root already. yay. Now I guess I need to update with modded firmware. Is there any particular order I have to install stuff?
Can I start with the rom, then modem, then kernel or is there a particular order I need to install stuff. And what should I use, odin or what?
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turn off Google now as well if she doesn't use it, saves a ton of battery! and you just flash the ROM and then the modem, kernel is in the rom.. read the guides on how to flash the NB4 modem on older bootloader, and read OP of the ROM you are flashing, there should be flashing instructions for you too, good luck!
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killercut said:
just to clarify, I did the towel root on her old phone on 4.2.2 which is my phone now.
towelroot didn't work on 4.3 nor 4.4.2
I just did a wipe on the 4.2.2 with clockworkmod setup and tried to install the fenny stock 4.4.2 rom and it came up with an error, something about expects 5 args got 4
should I use odin or something?
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didn't see this before my reply, but use twrp
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serio22 said:
turn off Google now as well if she doesn't use it, saves a ton of battery! and you just flash the ROM and then the modem, kernel is in the rom.. read the guides on how to flash the NB4 modem on older bootloader, and read OP of the ROM you are flashing, there should be flashing instructions for you too, good luck!
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didn't see this before my reply, but use twrp
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Thanks, I searched and found out that TWRP is the way to go. I used flashify to install it and I was able to flash the new rom. Works good. I also got call recording to work, but not with wifi calls, is that something that never worked or its just a bug in my phone? I'm thinking of trying other roms to see if they got call recording with wifi calls, but that would take a lot of time.
I also did install the NB4 modem flash (twice like the instructions said) and its good, got 2 extra bars (but I doubt my signal got any better, they just want you to see more bars)

killercut said:
Thanks, I searched and found out that TWRP is the way to go. I used flashify to install it and I was able to flash the new rom. Works good. I also got call recording to work, but not with wifi calls, is that something that never worked or its just a bug in my phone? I'm thinking of trying other roms to see if they got call recording with wifi calls, but that would take a lot of time.
I also did install the NB4 modem flash (twice like the instructions said) and its good, got 2 extra bars (but I doubt my signal got any better, they just want you to see more bars)
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I can't say on the call recording as I don't use it, and yeah signal is the same I don't know why they made it report higher bars.. glad you got everything working!
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killercut said:
towelroot didn't work on 4.3 nor 4.4.2
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Interesting. Not sure what's different, but towelroot did work on my wife's MK2 4.3. Titanium Backup confirmed root and AdAway works so it would seem root access is there.

camaro322hp said:
Interesting. Not sure what's different, but towelroot did work on my wife's MK2 4.3. Titanium Backup confirmed root and AdAway works so it would seem root access is there.
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interesting.
Could you post your about phone info, like kernel and stuff.

killercut said:
interesting.
Could you post your about phone info, like kernel and stuff.
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Completely stock TouchWiz 4.3. OTA update took it from 4.2 to 4.3. It's my wife's phone and she never had any desire for anything custom on it. The only reason I rooted it now was she asked if there was any way to block ads.
Baseband m919uvuemk2
Kernel 3.4.0-2015522
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