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Here is a link to the nightly CM6 builds being compiled by the guys at #teamdouche.
Obviously if you are using a G2 you would choose the Vision folder.
NIGHTLY BUILDS Here
HPDI GAPPS Here
Credit to TeamDouche for their amazing dedication and hard work!
If you want this link to stay up, do NOT bug #TeamDouche do not ask them any questions, do not report any bugs, let them do their job!!!!!
THESE DO NOT INCLUDE GOOGLE APPS AND ARE STILL BUGGY. DO A NANDROID BACKUP, WIPE AND THEN FLASH
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People this is just the link to where you can find the nightlys... they are not for the new flasher/modder! Don't expect them to be stable at all.
RC1 is on the way... once that is up and running the nightly will fair your way for testing.
Again, IF YOU ARE NEW OR FAINT OF HEART DO NOT FLASH THE NIGHTLY BUILD.
The nightlies are back up
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The nightlies are back up
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Thanks Mikey!
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Yeah they've been up for almost 2 days I just didn't tell anyone since I didn't want them to get pulled again...
Thanks in advance, I should be getting the g2 this week. I probably won't test out any nightlies until after rc1, and even then maybe wait a little and see how it goes. So this will be where the nightly discussions are?
YES! Time to flash!
God I hope people don't pester devs with questions. . .
Questions/troubleshooting by users should be placed in here
I can't remember is there a change log link for the nightlies??
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http://buildbot.teamdouche.net/changelog/cm_vision_full/
shows build-to-build changes. For a longer span (if you're more than one version behind, or if there's one that fails to build) you can use:
http://buildbot.teamdouche.net/changelog/cm_vision_full/11..13
for instance. The ending version can be left off if you want to specify the latest nightly as the end point:
http://buildbot.teamdouche.net/changelog/cm_vision_full/11
Suggestions to improve this feature would be appreciated. Near term, I'd like to pull the oneline logs onto the buildbot page, but I haven't touched this in a little while.
Of course, you can also monitor @cmsrc or #cmsrc, and if you're good with the IRC channel you can even figure out which changes make which build.
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Questions/troubleshooting by users should be placed in here
I can't remember is there a change log link for the nightlies??
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Its just a Github link to cyanogens change log.
Do you know why Gapps wont flash?
For GAPPS just inject them into the ROM before flashing and it works
Metamorph hasn't worked since nightly 10...
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For GAPPS just inject them into the ROM before flashing and it works
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I just used this: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...n-of-nightlies/page__view__findpost__p__88772
I am running beautifully on CM Nightly 13 .
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Questions/troubleshooting by users should be placed in here
I can't remember is there a change log link for the nightlies??
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http://buildbot.teamdouche.net/changelog/cm_vision_full/
shows build-to-build changes. For a longer span (if you're more than one version behind, or if there's one that fails to build) you can use:
http://buildbot.teamdouche.net/changelog/cm_vision_full/11..13
for instance. The ending version can be left off if you want to specify the latest nightly as the end point:
http://buildbot.teamdouche.net/changelog/cm_vision_full/11
Suggestions to improve this feature would be appreciated. Near term, I'd like to pull the oneline logs onto the buildbot page, but I haven't touched this in a little while.
Of course, you can also monitor @cmsrc or #cmsrc, and if you're good with the IRC channel you can even figure out which changes make which build.
I could just be hallucinating but iirc cyanogen posted somewhere that the build should be compatable with the Z. I agree though, that place is a ghost town.
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Running build 13 since 2 minutes after it came out and love it, everything works as far as I can tell including metamorph (just have system rw and it wont error out)
Sorry, but has anyone got this to work on the Desire Z?
The Desire Z forums are (relatively) quite empty at the moment.
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Sorry, but has anyone got this to work on the Desire Z?
The Desire Z forums are (relatively) quite empty at the moment.
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This will work on a Z, im pretty sure as Cyan has expressed that explicitly
JD
I just tried at the latest Nightly and ive decided to hold of on CM into an RC comes out. Native USB Tethering and Portable Wi-Fi Hotspot isn't working. Wireless Tether for Root Users doesn't work either .
wifi hotspot is def working on the nightly 12
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I just tried at the latest Nightly and ive decided to hold of on CM into an RC comes out. Native USB Tethering and Portable Wi-Fi Hotspot isn't working. Wireless Tether for Root Users doesn't work either .
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My Wi-Fi tethering is working fine. I tested it yesterday and I am running CM Nightly build 13. I can't speak for usb tethering as I don't have a use for it and thus haven't tried it.
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I just tried at the latest Nightly and ive decided to hold of on CM into an RC comes out. Native USB Tethering and Portable Wi-Fi Hotspot isn't working. Wireless Tether for Root Users doesn't work either .
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Wifi tether works just find. Usb however does not.
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Hello people!
I have not long been using AOKP for very long, but i can say overall i love it, i have a few issues though.
I am aware of course it is a unofficial ROM and to expect it to run perfectly would be ridiculous and i was hoping if anybody had experienced anything similar and had any solutions?...
- My headphone jack has 100% stopped working since installing is ROM, i even reinstalled an old backup of MIUIv4 and it was working fine so it defiantly isn't the hardware.
- Black screen notifications, if i received an IM like whatsapp or even a SMS my led would light up and the screen backlight will turn on but its just a black screen?
- Fail to unlock screen first time around, now this doesn't happen all the time, maybe 30-40% of the time, but ill press the unlock button... the backlight will turn on but again its just a black screen, so i have to re-lock and unlock again and it will 100% work the second time... its kind of annoying.
Other than that the ROM works fine for me, i really don't want to lose the JB OS... is there a stable alternative maybe? or hopefully a simple fix.
By the way is based on their latest build.
Thanks!
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the best for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982411
the best ROM for me work perfect!!
xmixmaster said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982411
the best ROM for me work perfect!!
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thanks for that man... im gonna read a little more into but it seems like the best choice... will defiantly check it out!
UPDATE: ive given the ROM a go and i must say its a lot more stable than i thought it would be when its a "mishmash" of different ROMs put together.
i still have the headphone jack issue thought, i read a few other forums that people are experiencing using ROMs based on CM10... have you not had this issue?
Looks like yesterday (04/13/2013) the Sony Xperia ZL has been introduced into the list of CyanogenMod's officially supported devices (Wiki and CM ROM download page)!
That's some excellent news!!! :laugh:
Sony Xperia ZL CM Wiki Page
Sony Xperia ZL (Odin) Latest Nightly Build Download page
I got my ZL last week and I absolutely love it (one C6502 and one C6503. Not sure which one I'll get to keep/sell... Currently there's no 4G LTE coverage where I live in Brazil).
On 04/16/2013 I decided that I'll keep the C6503. So I unlocked its bootloader via Sony's Developer original method and then I just followed the Odin's Wiki page walkthrough for flashing CM 10.1 to my phone. It all worked out perfectly. Hint: To get into CWM recovery you have to press and release the volume up and down at the same time a few times (until the led turns purple) when you turn on the device. It took me a while to get it right. I was used to my SGS where you just have to press power+volume up to get to recovery. A lot easier in my opinion.
A little history: I've been using a Samsung Galaxy S i9000 since Feb 2011 (now running latest CM 10.1 nightly). I love it to death and now I use it as a secondary-backup-work phone (specially when I travel abroad on GSM/HSDPA only networks). If it wasn't for the CyanogenMod community (particularly Pawitp and Stratosk) my phone would've been long dead along with Gingerbread 2.3.3... $am$ung has lost my business with its unfriendly developer support and ugly-ass colored phones and UI, girly looking round phones starting with the Samsung Galaxy S 3 and 4.
Please let me know if there's something new on those pages above, if I notice something new I'll keep you guys posted!
Cheers!
For those interested, here's some of the bugs I've experienced/noticed while using latest official CM 10.1 nightly:
When my phone is locked with the screen black (locked), after I push the power button, the screen lights up, and even though I did not unlock the phone, I'm able to change volume settings by pressing the volume rocker. This should not happen unless there's a video or audio playing in the background.
***Update: his hasn't been "fixed", apparently that's the new behavior and it's going to be that way – period.
When I push the power button to unlock the phone there's a short lag until the display comes 'alive' (others have mentioned this as well).
***Update: Fixed!
When I connect the phone to my stereo Bluetooth speakers by Logitech to listen to online music through 'A Online Radio', the phone goes to sleep as it normally does after a little while. If I try to wake up the phone it will freeze. I have to press the reset button to reboot phone.
***Update: bluetooth connection has been fixed, but now there's another bug that cuts the first 2 seconds off a song when it first starts playing or whatever you skip between tracks.
Wi-Fi is switching itself off a while after the phone sleeps. Regardless of setting for being always on. I've also noticed that the Wi-Fi resets itself randomly then I wake up the phone.
***Update: fixed (apparently)
It is taking significantly longer to fully charge the battery when compared to the stock Sony ROM (original Sony's charger used). And while the phone is being used sometimes it doesn't charge at all. You can see by the graph that it is depleting the battery instead of charging it. I'll try to take a snapshot of it.
***Update: that has been fixed, but if your phone is too warm, it won't charge at all. Make sure you always use the stock charger and short cable that came with your phone.
Notification bar 'sliding brightness' feature is only working after you pass through the half right portion of the notification bar.
***Update: not fixed
Lowest level of brightness is not as dark/dim as Sony's stock ROM.
***Update: not fixed, but I've noticed that on stock firmware the automatic brightness is darker than the lowest manual brightness that we can set, so that's the same behavior apparently.
Sometimes when the I receive a call, it starts to vibrate, the phone freezes and locks up, it still remains vibrating, the screen remains black (locked), and the only way to make it work again is to press the reset button. The alarm also did this once, it behaved just like that one time.
***Update: fixed!
Battery usage seems to be a little bit higher than stock ROM. But it's hard to find the culprit there...
***Update: it has been improved but I still feel that stock (very first stock firmware) had the best battery life.
During regular phone calls the speakerphone does not work.
***Update: fixed!
While I was on a phone call tonight, I pressed the back button to get me all the way back to home screen. Then I pressed the camera button to take a photo. The camera loaded and took the photo. Immediately after that, the phone locked up with a black screen. About 5 seconds after that black screen the phone started vibrating. I had to press the reset button to reboot the phone.
***Update: fixed!
***Official July-05-2013 CM 10.1 nightly all stock.***
Yo! Looking for current CyanogenMod (CM11) development for your Sony Xperia ZL/ZQ (Odin) Changelog??? Click HERE!!!
Here's my quick overview of CM11 (Jan 13th 2014) on my Xperia ZL C6503.
I honestly think PIE Control was much better than this new, hidden virtual controls that has been implemented. This new one present on CM11 just doesn't work as intended, and I find myself pressing menus (from within an app) when I try to back out of it. I really wish someone would/could bring back PIE Controls on CM 11.
There are some other issues with Jan 13th 2014 build when it comes to functionality and some missing options/menus that were present in CM 10.1 for example.
The new camera menus are absolute crap. I can work with that, but please, someone bring back the Store on External SD card option. That's an essential feature.
The icons on default launcher are huge. What's up with that? It's all bloated and washed out... Does it look like THAT bad on a Nexus 5??? This time around I was thinking of keeping the default launcher but it looks like crap so... Any suggestions for a new launcher? I've always had Apex Pro on my previous CM installs.
The default Web Browser (I think it's called Chromium?) is performing so poorly this time around... It basically seem to have lost all of my bookmarks cause it just refuses to pull them out of the cloud like it always did since CM7 up until CM10.2. The zooming feature (double tap) just refuses to work properly. I keep on double tapping the screen and nothing happens. It's really frustrating...
I've downloaded about 11 pdf files off the internet and the system kept tabs on it as it should, but when I tried to pull down the notification bar it was performing very poorly the animation was choppy for both quick settings menu and notifications bar. Clearing the notifications history fixed this. But should this ever occur?
For some reason I'm unable to uninstall system apps with Titanium Backup or any other app.
Thank goodness DSP Manager is working properly this time around. But....
Bluetooth connection sucks. It is really really bad. It constantly cuts and skips the music playback every other 5 - 15 seconds. Is there someone looking into that? In comparison, my almost 4 year old Samsung Galaxy S GT-i9000 is rockin' CM 11 without this problem.
I think that this is about it. Other than that the system seems to be working properly. I can't comment on anything else since I've got CM11 running on my Xperia ZL less than 5 hours ago.
I would like to take the time to thank FXP, FreeXperia Project and the rest of the community and developers that are constantly improving and enhancing the code and the experience for all of us.
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Great news buddy, thanks for showing this to us
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Great news buddy, thanks for showing this to us
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OMG!!!
The first official nightly build of CM10.1 for the Xperia ZL is up!!!!!!
:thumbup::beer:
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Well this is no surprise... Jerpelea (FXP) has the Xperia ZL so this is expected...
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Well this is no surprise... Jerpelea (FXP) has the Xperia ZL so this is expected...
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DooMLoRD! Woah! It's an absolute honor to hear from you Mr.!
I was doing some diggin' on you and FXP as well after I read on Odin's Wiki page that you were the maintainers for my new device! It's really a great pleasure having you here, taking the time to stop by to give me the heads up! Thank you!
After so many years with my Galaxy S i9000, I was really afraid of getting a phone that eventually would have no official CyanogenMod support. I'm so glad to see that my new device is now fully supported by the CM community! Heck yeah!
Phew, what a relief, man!
So, what is the difference between CyanogenMod and the FreeXperia ?
I mean FreeXperia ROM is available for the ZL since some weeks... and for my understanding it is the same!?
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So, what is the difference between CyanogenMod and the FreeXperia ?
I mean FreeXperia ROM is available for the ZL since some weeks... and for my understanding it is the same!?
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in my understanding this doesnt change much.
FXP was an unofficial CM build and now it's official. The quality remains.
Maybe the pros are that now the project can use official repository and download servers. And of course has more "world attention" since it's official :good:
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in my understanding this doesnt change much.
FXP was an unofficial CM build and now it's official. The quality remains.
Maybe the pros are that now the project can use official repository and download servers. And of course has more "world attention" since it's official :good:
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Yup, couldn't agree more.
My biggest concern when I got the phone last week was the fear of getting it overshadowed by other major releases like the HTC ONE and the Galaxy S 4. I was afraid that the devs just wouldn't be interested in the device. But now that the device has made into the official CM10.1 ROM list, there's absolutely nothing to worry about...!
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Yup, couldn't agree more.
My biggest concern when I got the phone last week was the fear of getting it overshadowed by other major releases like the HTC ONE and the Galaxy S 4. I was afraid that the devs just wouldn't be interested in the device. But now that the device has made into the official CM10.1 ROM list, there's absolutely nothing to worry about...!
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Yes, but why to worry when there is since some weeks (Months?) CM for this device available ??
Do we lose any functionality from this? such as IR etc?
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Do we lose any functionality from this? such as IR etc?
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IR and all Sony proprietary apps such as Sony Throw become non functional.
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Yes, but why to worry when there is since some weeks (Months?) CM for this device available ??
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I'm not sure I totally understood what you asked. Could you please rephrase that for me?
AndroidBR said:
DooMLoRD! Woah! It's an absolute honor to hear from you Mr.!
I was doing some diggin' on you and FXP as well after I read on Odin's Wiki page that you were the maintainers for my new device! It's really a great pleasure having you here, taking the time to stop by to give me the heads up! Thank you!
After so many years with my Galaxy S i9000, I was really afraid of getting a phone that eventually would have no official CyanogenMod support. I'm so glad to see that my new device is now fully supported by the CM community! Heck yeah!
Phew, what a relief, man!
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unfortunately i am not a CM device maintainer...
FYI if you guys dont know... some of the top CM/AOSP/AKOP developers have the Xperia Z/ZL... listing some of them below:
jerpelea (FXP)
Binary
codeworkx
Kali-
defer
Entropy512
cdesai
championswimmer
and many more...
also there are many devs who work independently have the Xperia Z/ZL:
me
Dees_Troy
krabappel2548
lilstevie
and many others!!!
so you should not be worried about dev support
something wrong with the phone or CM ??
i did flow the instruction of cyanogenmod's wiki and finished the installation,it is the fastest system i ever used,but...........
why can't i make a normal call or take a call from others,it dos not ring at all(dos not work in the settings)~~~~then i found i lost my baseband in this CM~~~~
is ur XZL work normally with this CM?
xiaNLJ said:
i did flow the instruction of cyanogenmod's wiki and finished the installation,it is the fastest system i ever used,but...........
why can't i make a normal call or take a call from others,it dos not ring at all(dos not work in the settings)~~~~then i found i lost my baseband in this CM~~~~
is ur XZL work normally with this CM?
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Did you erase your IMEI or something? If you deleted the "backup" folder in the root of your internal SD card it might have caused this, I don't really know if it was the case for you since I haven't had a chance (time) to flash CM 10.1 on my ZL just yet...
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Did you erase your IMEI or something? If you deleted the "backup" folder in the root of your internal SD card it might have caused this, I don't really know if it was the case for you since I haven't had a chance (time) to flash CM 10.1 on my ZL just yet...
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Thank you very much for this,but its better if you have time to flash this CM on your XZL and tell me it is working well, i will try it again
xiaNLJ said:
Thank you very much for this,but its better if you have time to flash this CM on your XZL and tell me it is working well, i will try it again
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So today I successfully unlocked the bootloader (following Sony Developer's website walkthrough) and then loaded CWM recovery as explained at the ZL's (Odin) Wiki page.
After successfully completing both of these steps I managed to get into CWM recovery and flash CM 10.1 and rebooted my ZL.
At first everything seemed to be working properly. After the initial boot screen and device initialization, it looked like I had just gotten a brand new 5" Google Nexus phone made by Sony straight out of the box. It was absolutely brilliant.
But then, after I successfully placed a call and talked on the phone for like 2 minutes, the phone went black. None of the buttons would work. I had to open the back cover and press the reset button for the phone to work again.
After reboot, I could not place any calls again...
I'm wondering what the problem is...
Anyone?
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I wiped the phone all over again and flashed CM 10.1 one more time. After reboot and initial setup, the phone worked just fine, no problems making or receiving calls.
One big remark though: The speaker phone (loud speaker) does not work. You press the button and it does absolutely nothing. So if that is a deal breaker for you, you may want to keep your original Sony ROM rockin' for a little longer until the problem is solved.
AndroidBR said:
So today I successfully unlocked the bootloader (following Sony Developer's website walkthrough) and then loaded CWM recovery as explained at the ZL's (Odin) Wiki page.
After successfully completing both of these steps I managed to get into CWM recovery and flash CM 10.1 and rebooted my ZL.
At first everything seemed to be working properly. After the initial boot screen and device initialization, it looked like I had just gotten a brand new 5" Google Nexus phone made by Sony straight out of the box. It was absolutely brilliant.
But then, after I successfully placed a call and talked on the phone for like 2 minutes, the phone went black. None of the buttons would work. I had to open the back cover and press the reset button for the phone to work again.
After reboot, I could not place any calls again...
I'm wondering what the problem is...
Anyone?
Edit:
I wiped the phone all over again and flashed CM 10.1 one more time. After reboot and initial setup, the phone worked just fine, no problems making or receiving calls.
One big remark though: The speaker phone (loud speaker) does not work. You press the button and it does absolutely nothing. So if that is a deal breaker for you, you may want to keep your original Sony ROM rockin' for a little longer until the problem is solved.
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These two issues are well documented and discussed. Seem to be common on all AOSP roms. For the GSM signal, the best thing to do would be to flash baseband only using flashtool. Or you could play around with enabling/ disabling airplane mode and see if that works for you (for me it does)
The speaker during calls doesnt work and enabling it results in complete loss of audio through both the speaker and the earpiece. To fix it just restart your phone.
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These two issues are well documented and discussed. Seem to be common on all AOSP roms. For the GSM signal, the best thing to do would be to flash baseband only using flashtool. Or you could play around with enabling/ disabling airplane mode and see if that works for you (for me it does)
The speaker during calls doesnt work and enabling it results in complete loss of audio through both the speaker and the earpiece. To fix it just restart your phone.
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that i think we have to wait for the next official edition
dose anyone know how i can tell CM the problem?
why they release the official edition with a not working well base function
Long shot here, but is there a stock android either Lollipop or Marshmallow (way unlikely) that I can flash to this device once it is S-Off?
Nope. Closest you would get would be CM, but the camera is not fully functional yet and I don't know if it supports advanced calling on Verizon either.
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Long shot here, but is there a stock android either Lollipop or Marshmallow (way unlikely) that I can flash to this device once it is S-Off?
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Neo, thanks for pointing that out. However, I was referring to stock android along the lines on what you would find on Nexus Devices. On my One M8, I was able to flash stock android like was found on the google play edition. I couldn't quite tell whether the link you posted when I first browsed it yesterday was bone stock, or was still customized by HTC (HTC dialer, HTC help, HTC clock, etc).
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Neo, thanks for pointing that out. However, I was referring to stock android along the lines on what you would find on Nexus Devices. On my One M8, I was able to flash stock android like was found on the google play edition. I couldn't quite tell whether the link you posted when I first browsed it yesterday was bone stock, or was still customized by HTC (HTC dialer, HTC help, HTC clock, etc).
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Oh, so you're looking for a form of AOSP then ie: vanilla android os with no sense gui or other gui.
As the previous member stated, we have it, we can build it, but for now the camera is broken and wake gestures don't look to be working. Everything else appears to work ok. Actually, CM recently just pushed some changes to the device which might fix camera. I or flyhalf may put a build together and try it out soon.
The link I posted just now is the stock factory shipped sense rom (most updated).
Thanks Neo for your effort in attempting to put that together, I look forward to it!
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Oh, so you're looking for a form of AOSP then ie: vanilla android os with no sense gui or other gui.
As the previous member stated, we have it, we can build it, but for now the camera is broken and wake gestures don't look to be working. Everything else appears to work ok. Actually, CM recently just pushed some changes to the device which might fix camera. I or flyhalf may put a build together and try it out soon.
The link I posted just now is the stock factory shipped sense rom (most updated).
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Neo,
Sorry to revive this relatively old thread. CM has nightlies for the GSM M9 (himaul). From the bits and pieces that I've found around XDA and the web in general, it seems like it's working well with the potential exception of some bluetooth issues (which I don't really care all that much about right now). It's not built to run on the Verizon m9 though.
I know there's CandyRom, which is based on CM, but I'm looking for as close to AOSP as possible. Sense is actually okay, but I don't want any of the VZ specific stuff that's found on the stock ROMS I've seen. I know I can disable >>most<< of it, but definitely not all.
Is there general guidance out there on how to build CM from the himaul source, but make it compatible with the m9 himawl (verizon)? Any other suggestions for vanilla-ish ROMs?
The m8 version was compatible with all and worked well. Don't know why the m9 version isn't Verizon compatible (yet?).
Thanks! Happy Thanksgiving.
so I absolutely love the nightly release. its perfect but one thing.... the camera doesn't work.... is there any way i can get it to work anyone figure it out cuz i really want to install it but i do need the camera